Re: [Vo]:Rossi and IH have received the ERV ReportAs Rossi has stated several times, no report willconvince the true ckeptics, only the sale of working E-Cats.

2016-03-30 Thread Peter Gluck
dear Adrian, 'has IH answered? Can you send me their e-mail address? I will also try. peter On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 10:02 PM, a.ashfield wrote: > M apologies for the mangled title. > I started typing on the subject line in error & deleted it, but somehow it >

Re: [Vo]:The LENR triad and zinc volatility

2016-03-30 Thread mixent
In reply to Eric Walker's message of Tue, 29 Mar 2016 22:18:31 -0500: Hi, [snip] >It is possible that a suitable environment could stimulate electron capture >without leading to competing positron emission, e.g., through a surplus of >electrons passing through the nucleus. [snip] I don't think

[Vo]:Fw: new message

2016-03-30 Thread Rich Murray
Hey! Open message Rich Murray --- Este email foi escaneado pelo Avast antivírus. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Video shows how superior animal intelligence is compared to artificial intelligence

2016-03-30 Thread Ken Deboer
Jed, That movie is terrific. And also hilarious. The reaction of the monkey is exactly the same as all of has seen many times in humans. It is getting absolutely untenable anymore to deny the lack of sentience in some of the animal world with profound implications for humanity. I'm quite

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Video shows how superior animal intelligence is compared to artificial intelligence

2016-03-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
Here is the full video that segment is taken from: http://www.ted.com/talks/frans_de_waal_do_animals_have_morals?language=en

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's 3rd party is really not a 3rd party at all

2016-03-30 Thread Axil Axil
Just want to deduce the background of the third party. For a year long test the third party would be somebody living locally or at short commuting distance. This means someone who worked at the TVA. On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 3:08 PM, Daniel Rocha wrote: > Axi, what's your

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Video shows how superior animal intelligence is compared to artificial intelligence

2016-03-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
Returning to this off-topic subject -- Here is an astounding video showing the behavior of a Capuchin monkey. She gets upset because she is treated unfairly. The concept of "sentience" in A.I. has been defined as being self-aware. That is, being aware that you are an individual; that other

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's 3rd party is really not a 3rd party at all

2016-03-30 Thread Daniel Rocha
Axi, what's your point? You are not making any sense. 2016-03-30 16:05 GMT-03:00 Axil Axil : > > *"has also due experience in certification of plants?"* > > *By act, the only people authorized to certify nuclear plants are those > employed directly by the Nuclear Regulatory

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's 3rd party is really not a 3rd party at all

2016-03-30 Thread Axil Axil
*"has also due experience in certification of plants?"* *By act, the only people authorized to certify nuclear plants are those employed directly by the Nuclear Regulatory Commission(NRC).* *Act* means the Atomic Energy Act of 1954 (68 Stat. 919) including any amendments thereto.

Re: [Vo]:Rossi and IH have received the ERV ReportAs Rossi has stated several times, no report willconvince the true ckeptics, only the sale of working E-Cats.

2016-03-30 Thread a.ashfield
M apologies for the mangled title. I started typing on the subject line in error & deleted it, but somehow it reappeared.

RE: [Vo]:Re: Kamacite and natural fractionation of heavy nickel

2016-03-30 Thread Jones Beene
From: Bob Higgins Jones, I agree that there are many tantalizing characteristics of Zn as a possible catalyst material….My point is only that based on other measurements of AP's fuel, it is not plausible that 64Zn can be responsible for for the high ICP-MS reading for 64Ni in his Sochi

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's 3rd party is really not a 3rd party at all

2016-03-30 Thread H LV
If IH and Leonardo Corp. paid a company/organization to send a salaried employee to do the test I would consider that more independent. Harry On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 2:12 PM, Lennart Thornros wrote: > Daniel, > I disagree with you. > Arms-length distance can be obtained

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's 3rd party is really not a 3rd party at all

2016-03-30 Thread Lennart Thornros
Daniel, I disagree with you. Arms-length distance can be obtained using an agreement. It is like the bank makes an appraisal of your home, when you are selling it. The whole idea is that it should be a third party. I can see that the payment creates a financial connection, which could sway the

Re: [Vo]:Re: Kamacite and natural fractionation of heavy nickel

2016-03-30 Thread Bob Higgins
Jones, I agree that there are many tantalizing characteristics of Zn as a possible catalyst material. My point is only that based on other measurements of AP's fuel, it is not plausible that 64Zn can be responsible for for the high ICP-MS reading for 64Ni in his Sochi reported analyses. This

Re: [Vo]:Rossi's 3rd party is really not a 3rd party at all

2016-03-30 Thread Daniel Rocha
So, the 3rd party was partially paid by Leonardo Corporation. If it were paid by Industrial Heat only, I am not even sure if I'd give it a pass.

[Vo]:Rossi's 3rd party is really not a 3rd party at all

2016-03-30 Thread Daniel Rocha
*March 29, 2016 at 10:58 PM Dr Andrea Rossi:Can you give us the characteristics of the ERV ?1- age2- education3- professional experience4- has also due experience in certification of plants?5- who paid his work and all his

Re: [Vo]:more patience. anticipating the ERvVReport results

2016-03-30 Thread H LV
from http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2016/03/mar-30-2016-lenr-how-much-more-patience.html "Very important is the power densities range W/grams fuel here I think 1000 will be a typical or minimal value. Anyway this will learn us to define a genuine Rossi Effect Replication. It is not " You have a

Re: [Vo]:Rossi and IH have received the ERV ReportAs Rossi has stated several times, no report willconvince the true ckeptics, only the sale of working E-Cats.

2016-03-30 Thread a.ashfield
As Rossi has stated several times, no report will convince the true skeptic, only the sale of working E-Cats. I have emailed Industrial Heat asking them whether they endorsed the ERV report, or were going to make a statement about the one year test of the 1 MW plant. I have not yet received

RE: [Vo]:Re: Kamacite and natural fractionation of heavy nickel

2016-03-30 Thread Jones Beene
Bob, You seem to be hung up on the impossibility of 7% zinc contamination and OK - you are probably correct on that point, as far as it goes… BUT… consider this. Zinc has a surprisingly low boiling point of 907C and the typical glow-tube reactor does not produce excess heat unless it

[Vo]:more patience. anticipating the ERvVReport results

2016-03-30 Thread Peter Gluck
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2016/03/mar-30-2016-lenr-how-much-more-patience.html in which sense LENR can be a Nuclear Eunuch but a wonderful industrious worker? I think there will me more interesting news today, if it is the case I will come back to you. Let's wait united and divided an

Re: [Vo]:Rossi and IH have received the ERV Report

2016-03-30 Thread Axil Axil
Regarding: "Temperatures in the cell range from 150°C - 5000°C. (Rossi agrees he said this previously 2/10/2011) This has to be a misunderstanding. Ni melts at 1453°C. Standard module consumed 500 W control current and produced 4 kW in 2010. (7/14/2010) Over the course of development, 37

RE: [Vo]:Rossi and IH have received the ERV Report

2016-03-30 Thread Randy Wuller
It seems to me there is only one issue which will determine the significance of this test, was IH controlling it and will they be reporting the results. If so, all the speculation about Rossi being a fraud is nonsense and a figment of imagination. If IH wasn’t’ involved and didn’t control

Re: [Vo]:Re: Kamacite and natural fractionation of heavy nickel

2016-03-30 Thread Bob Higgins
See below ... On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 9:49 PM, Eric Walker wrote: > On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 5:07 PM, Bob Higgins > wrote: > > First of all, it is reasonable to presume that any Zn contamination would >> have a natural isotopic ratio. The

Re: [Vo]:Rossi and IH have received the ERV Report

2016-03-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene wrote: > However, that stance is an extreme minority view: that Rossi can be both > con-artist-deluxe and misunderstood genius inventor, at the same time. > If that's a minority view, people need to study history. Many inventors have fit that description. Thomas

Re: [Vo]:Rossi and IH have received the ERV Report

2016-03-30 Thread Craig Haynie
This won't be resolved completely until Rossi sells a few of these things. Craig On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 10:48 AM, Stephen Cooke wrote: > Thanks for the thought provoking post… I agree. > > Group think and consensus can be more powerful, more widespread and more >

RE: [Vo]:Rossi and IH have received the ERV Report

2016-03-30 Thread Stephen Cooke
Thanks for the thought provoking post… I agree. Group think and consensus can be more powerful, more widespread and more damaging than any planned or determined conspiracy. People identify with and feel part of a social/political group or organisation and go along with what they think their

RE: [Vo]:Rossi and IH have received the ERV Report

2016-03-30 Thread Jones Beene
From: Alain Sepeda There is no absolute third party as interest and incentive connect…[snip]… The only conspiracy is a consensus… This is not a conspiracy but a groupthink, mutual assured delusion as Benabou name it. Daniel Rocha wrote: Rossi's definition of 3rd party is somewhat exotic.

Re: [Vo]:Rossi and IH have received the ERV Report

2016-03-30 Thread Alain Sepeda
On the opposite for a conspiracy theorist, in general, there is no 3rd party, except himself. Anyone who disagree with the conclusion is considered part of the giant conspiracy. There is no absolute third party as interest and incentive connect, in both positive and negative direction, all