[Vo]:2nd Law proved not valid, ignored by West

[Jones Beene]

In the disclosed Maxwell's demon type of experiment from 2012, heat from 
ambient air was converted completely into electric energy, using a 
static magnetic field without producing any other effect.


The phenomenon proves clearly that the second law of thermodynamics is 
not universally valid, even though the output was tiny.


"Realization of Maxwell’s Hypothesis" A heat-electric conversion in 
contradiction to Kelvin’s statement  by  Xinyong Fu, Zitao Fu Shanghai 
Jiao Tong University


https://arxiv.org/abs/physics/0311104

Re: [Vo]:Rossi versus Darden trial settled

[Jed Rothwell]

Kevin O'Malley  wrote:

The report was credible enough for IH not to move forward on their case.
>

Unless you took part in the lawyers' negotiations, you do not know that is
the reason. It might be because they determined Rossi has no more money.
There is no point to suing someone who cannot pay. Here is another possible
reason. Lawyers tell me that it was mainly a contract dispute, and I.H.'s
counter-suit regarding the contract was weak.

I myself have no idea why they settled. However, I am sure the Penon report
is not "credible" in this universe according to our laws of physics. It was
a gross violation of thermodynamics, as Smith pointed out. Also because
Florida is not located in a vacuum in outer space. I am pretty sure of that.

Perhaps the people at I.H. worried that a jury might be as gullible as you
are, and the jury might think the Florida could be in a vacuum, because
what do those scientists know, anyway? They are a bunch of elitist
know-it-alls with their "laws" of "physics." They are so sure of
themselves, they think that when you take photo of a 15,000 pound machine
with pipes running to the ceiling, the image has to show up in the camera!
Why can't it be invisible??? Huh? You tell me! And it was equipped with an
anti-gravity machine which is why the mezzanine didn't collapse. You didn't
think of THAT, did you, Mr. Elite Scientist.

- Jed

Re: [Vo]:Rossi versus Darden trial settled

[Kevin O'Malley]

The report was credible enough for IH not to move forward on their case.

I'm glad to see you got a start on delineating all the scientific
charlatanism in that report and in the case.

On 7/10/17, Jed Rothwell  wrote:
> Kevin O'Malley  wrote:
>
> You're probably right.   But there is evidence he had a COP > 1 for
>> some length of time according to the report by the person chosen by
>> both sides to administer the test.
>>
>
> You mean the report that claims the laboratory was in a perfect vacuum, and
> the flow was EXACTLY the same, to the nearest 1,000 liters, for days on
> end.
>
> The report lacks credibility, to say the very least.
>
> - Jed
>

Re: [Vo]:Rossi versus Darden trial settled

[Jed Rothwell]

Kevin O'Malley  wrote:

You're probably right.   But there is evidence he had a COP > 1 for
> some length of time according to the report by the person chosen by
> both sides to administer the test.
>

You mean the report that claims the laboratory was in a perfect vacuum, and
the flow was EXACTLY the same, to the nearest 1,000 liters, for days on end.

The report lacks credibility, to say the very least.

- Jed

Re: [Vo]:Rossi versus Darden trial settled

[Kevin O'Malley]

On 7/10/17, Jed Rothwell  wrote:


>
> I cannot judge legal standards.
***Then stop using a legal term.   It's like saying that by scientific
standards and by common sense standards your neighbor is guilty of
armed robbery.   If there were "scientific standards" to begin with,
we wouldn't be in this mess:  LENR would be ubiquitous, Hot Fusion
would be dead, some guys at MIT would be just now getting out of jail,
and we'd all be driving nonpolluting LENR cars.   When there are no
standards in place it's like a junkie complaining that a drug dealer
ripped him off--who's he gonna go to, the police?

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t=j==s=web=3=rja=8=0ahUKEwi29OvZ3f_UAhUKS2MKHZa_BUkQFgg3MAI=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.insideedition.com%2Fheadlines%2F12185-police-woman-called-911-to-complain-about-her-drug-dealer=AFQjCNGC4fSNv4LfafSJ-RaV4tx2r9g64g

Re: [Vo]:LENR Insights from Proton 21

[Axil Axil]

Proton 21 is a science based effort whose out of the box thinking and
associated results are not commercially applicable. This is why their
results are so valuable to analyze. Their methods and analysis are not
constrained by the braindead fixation of producing excess heat as detected
by calorimetry.

Similar science based results have come from Ken Shoulders and presently
from Safire.

On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 2:18 PM, bobcook39...@hotmail.com <
bobcook39...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Jones and Axil—
>
>
>
> A additional idea in connection with the Proton 21 folks and the Stanford
> strung theory folks:
>
> It may be that after the super heavies formed during inflation, the
> unstable super superheavies evaporated/exploded and only a reduced of
> stable super heavies remained, well distributed as dark matter in the
> expanding universe consistent with SOBB.
>
>
>
> Bob Cook
>
>
>
> PS: What has happened to these folks in the last ten to 15 years?  Did
> they suffer the same ridicule of being “scientific frauds”  as others,
> currently and in the past, have in the field of LENR?
>
>
>
> Maybe Jed knows?
>
>
>
> Bob Cook
>
>
>
>
>
> *From: *bobcook39...@hotmail.com
> *Sent: *Monday, July 10, 2017 9:09 AM
> *To: *vortex-l@eskimo.com
> *Subject: *RE: [Vo]:LENR Insights from Proton 21
>
>
>
> Jones—
>
>
>
> The big bang may still hold, if the super heavies were formed early- on,
> caused the expansion early-- on (inflation) with repulsive gravity  and
> then changed to attractive gravity after the initial rapid inflation.
>
>
>
> The big bang (BB) will become the standard of BB models,  SOBB.   It may
> require only the addition of a SINGLE constant!
>
>
>
> Bob Cook
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From: *Che 
> *Sent: *Sunday, July 9, 2017 2:32 PM
> *To: *vortex-l@eskimo.com
> *Subject: *Re: [Vo]:LENR Insights from Proton 21
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 9, 2017 at 3:10 PM, Axil Axil  wrote:
>
> http://rexresearch.com/stuff/stuff7/adamenko.pdf
>
>
>
>
>
> There is another assumption connected with these sections and it refers to
> cosmology. It is known that there is a great quantity of "dark" matter in
> the universe, and it cannot be detected by ordinary tools. It is possible
> that the "black holes" we observed are part of this matter. It may be made
> of the nuclei of super heavy elements.
>
> Display More
>
>
>
> Such a fact would appear to militate against the 'Young Universe' 'Big
> Bang' theory, wouldn't it..? It would take a LOT of time to build up such a
> huge mass of trans-uranic elements thruout the Kosmos...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [Vo]:Rossi versus Darden trial settled

[Kevin O'Malley]

You're probably right.   But there is evidence he had a COP > 1 for
some length of time according to the report by the person chosen by
both sides to administer the test.

On 7/10/17, H LV  wrote:
> Rossi was suing IH for millions of dollars, so he had to prove the device
> in Florida worked as he claimed. If the trial proceeded I think it is very
> likely that the preponderance of the evidence would not support his claim.
>
> Harry
>
> On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 10:07 AM, Jed Rothwell 
> wrote:
>
>> Kevin O'Malley  wrote:
>>
>>
>>> On 7/9/17, Jed Rothwell  wrote:
>>> OJ Simpson...
>>> > Obviously he was guilty.
>>> ***Then obviously Rossi is Not Guilty of Fraud.   You just agreed with
>>> the legal standard.
>>>
>>
>> I cannot judge legal standards. By scientific standards and by common
>> sense standards he is guilty of fraud.
>>
>>
>>
>>> > All I did was read the Penon report. That's all it takes.
>>> ***Bullshit.  Plenty of others have read the report and came to
>>> different conclusions than you did.
>>>
>>
>> Not as far as I know. Some people such as Axil refuse to read the report.
>> Others people claim they read it and reached different conclusions, but
>> they have not given any reasons. A few are so gullible they believe the
>> post hoc lies about invisible heat exchangers that do not show in
>> photographs. Such "conclusions" are so irrational they have no place in a
>> serious discussion.
>>
>>
>>
>>>  At least his next intended victims
>>> > have the court docket to warn them off.
>>> ***Well if you were to write a point by point delineation of all the
>>> scientific claims that are fraud then his next "intended victims"
>>> would have that.
>>>
>>
>> I have no idea what his next scheme will be. Perhaps it will be the
>> QuarkX? Rossi told Lewan in the interview that he is setting up in Sweden
>> where people want to invest. I suppose that means he has begun a new
>> scam,
>> but maybe he made that up and there are no investors.
>>
>> - Jed
>>
>>
>

Re: [Vo]:Interest in cold fusion has waned

[Axil Axil]

Che makes a cogent point. The year long test was far more that an attempt
to extract money from IH, It was an attempt to verify a commercial product
and the attempt failed at least in Rossi's estimation. This attempt at
commercial applicability was why the test was so convoluted, inappropriate
to the spec, and needlessly involved. Rossi has a good idea about what will
work in the marketplace and his E-Cat would fall short of Rossi's
expectations as Rossi saw it.

The lawsuit was Rossi's method of punishing IH for messing with his IP and
using Rossi in a game to extract money from others. Rossi had to get out
from under IH who wanted to control Rossi. In the art of the deal, you take
an extreme position and then when you get what you want in negotiations,
then you settle.

Rossi frightened IH with bankruptcy until he wore IH down enough to give
Rossi what he really wanted, There was no science or fair play in this
maneuver for Rossi. The test was power, lawyers and tactics on power, other
lawyers and countertactics. A good bisiness man never plays fair in getting
what he wants, truth seldom plays a part in the game, It is shrewd cunning
that is the trait that wins the day in court.

On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 2:05 PM, Che  wrote:

>
>
> On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 1:01 AM, Lennart Thornros 
> wrote:
>
>> The whole discussion after the TRAIL is useless. Accusations between
>> vorts, discussions trying to determine how Rossi is a fraud or not - all of
>> counter productive.
>> Rossi has a small window to show that he has something. His ethics need
>> no analysis. Rossi as a person is of little interest if the focus is LENR.
>> The only that came out of this lawsuit was that nobody has picked up a
>> path to a commercial LENR.
>> The interest in LENR has gone down as it obviously still is no solution.
>> Still the interest exceeds what was before Rossi's appearance in this
>> field.
>> I suggest to change the focus to possible solutions and let Rossi return
>> with his better mousetrap when or if he has one.
>>
>
> (I just saw a better mousetrap on Youtube, BTW.)
>
>
> The issue IS the crass, obsessive focus on creating a commercial 'product'
> -- and NOT the Science. Andrea Rossi himself is _wholly_ responsible for
> that failing, here. OTOH, anyone _should_ be able to see that the Science
> ALWAYS should have come first -- especially in such a bold, pioneering and
> high-stakes sphere -- but DIDN'T: and this yet another attempt at crass
> commercialization IS the essential reason WHY this latest episode ends in
> wretched failure (assuming cold fusion is not simply a canard), and in
> acrimonious recriminations which only hurt the scientific side of the
> matter: the ONLY side which really matters.
>
> People should simply be turning to the likes of the Martin Fleischmann
> Memorial Project, and putting their bets THERE. In OPEN Science.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>> Lennart
>>
>> On Jul 9, 2017 19:03, "Che"  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 8:39 PM, Jed Rothwell 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Che  wrote:
>>>
>>>
 Clueless, DEAD wrong, AND delusional. All in one email post!

>>>
>>> That is not what I would call a cogent response, but I appreciate the
>>> brevity of it. You needn't say more, since your responses are canned and
>>> never deviate from party doctrine.
>>>
>>> - Jed
>>>
>>>
>> We are following an old script, here. If you want to pretend there's an
>> actual dialog going on, feel free. Just don't pretend to the others that
>> you're 'winning' something here, OK?
>>
>> In any case: the political-economic aspects of the Rossi fiasco are every
>> bit as 'cogent' as the fyzix and engineering. At this point -- even more so.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [Vo]:LENR Insights from Proton 21

[Jed Rothwell]

bobcook39...@hotmail.com  wrote:


> PS: What has happened to these folks in the last ten to 15 years?  Did
> they suffer the same ridicule of being “scientific frauds”  as others,
> currently and in the past, have in the field of LENR?
>
>
>
> Maybe Jed knows?
>

They come to ICCF conferences and I have chatted with them from time to
time, but I do not know what they are up to.

- Jed

RE: [Vo]:LENR Insights from Proton 21

[bobcook39...@hotmail.com]

Jones and Axil—

A additional idea in connection with the Proton 21 folks and the Stanford 
strung theory folks:
It may be that after the super heavies formed during inflation, the unstable 
super superheavies evaporated/exploded and only a reduced of stable super 
heavies remained, well distributed as dark matter in the expanding universe 
consistent with SOBB.

Bob Cook

PS: What has happened to these folks in the last ten to 15 years?  Did they 
suffer the same ridicule of being “scientific frauds”  as others, currently and 
in the past, have in the field of LENR?

Maybe Jed knows?

Bob Cook


From: bobcook39...@hotmail.com
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2017 9:09 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:LENR Insights from Proton 21

Jones—

The big bang may still hold, if the super heavies were formed early- on, caused 
the expansion early-- on (inflation) with repulsive gravity  and then changed 
to attractive gravity after the initial rapid inflation.

The big bang (BB) will become the standard of BB models,  SOBB.   It may 
require only the addition of a SINGLE constant!

Bob Cook



From: Che
Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2017 2:32 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:LENR Insights from Proton 21



On Sun, Jul 9, 2017 at 3:10 PM, Axil Axil 
> wrote:
http://rexresearch.com/stuff/stuff7/adamenko.pdf


There is another assumption connected with these sections and it refers to 
cosmology. It is known that there is a great quantity of "dark" matter in the 
universe, and it cannot be detected by ordinary tools. It is possible that the 
"black holes" we observed are part of this matter. It may be made of the nuclei 
of super heavy elements.
Display More

Such a fact would appear to militate against the 'Young Universe' 'Big Bang' 
theory, wouldn't it..? It would take a LOT of time to build up such a huge mass 
of trans-uranic elements thruout the Kosmos...

Re: [Vo]:Interest in cold fusion has waned

[Che]

On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 1:01 AM, Lennart Thornros 
wrote:

> The whole discussion after the TRAIL is useless. Accusations between
> vorts, discussions trying to determine how Rossi is a fraud or not - all of
> counter productive.
> Rossi has a small window to show that he has something. His ethics need no
> analysis. Rossi as a person is of little interest if the focus is LENR.
> The only that came out of this lawsuit was that nobody has picked up a
> path to a commercial LENR.
> The interest in LENR has gone down as it obviously still is no solution.
> Still the interest exceeds what was before Rossi's appearance in this
> field.
> I suggest to change the focus to possible solutions and let Rossi return
> with his better mousetrap when or if he has one.
>

(I just saw a better mousetrap on Youtube, BTW.)


The issue IS the crass, obsessive focus on creating a commercial 'product'
-- and NOT the Science. Andrea Rossi himself is _wholly_ responsible for
that failing, here. OTOH, anyone _should_ be able to see that the Science
ALWAYS should have come first -- especially in such a bold, pioneering and
high-stakes sphere -- but DIDN'T: and this yet another attempt at crass
commercialization IS the essential reason WHY this latest episode ends in
wretched failure (assuming cold fusion is not simply a canard), and in
acrimonious recriminations which only hurt the scientific side of the
matter: the ONLY side which really matters.

People should simply be turning to the likes of the Martin Fleischmann
Memorial Project, and putting their bets THERE. In OPEN Science.








> Lennart
>
> On Jul 9, 2017 19:03, "Che"  wrote:
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 8:39 PM, Jed Rothwell 
> wrote:
>
>> Che  wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Clueless, DEAD wrong, AND delusional. All in one email post!
>>>
>>
>> That is not what I would call a cogent response, but I appreciate the
>> brevity of it. You needn't say more, since your responses are canned and
>> never deviate from party doctrine.
>>
>> - Jed
>>
>>
> We are following an old script, here. If you want to pretend there's an
> actual dialog going on, feel free. Just don't pretend to the others that
> you're 'winning' something here, OK?
>
> In any case: the political-economic aspects of the Rossi fiasco are every
> bit as 'cogent' as the fyzix and engineering. At this point -- even more so.
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [Vo]:Rossi versus Darden trial settled

[Che]

On Sun, Jul 9, 2017 at 8:03 PM, Kevin O'Malley  wrote:
>
> I think the key is to just find nuclear products when you throw hydrogen
and nickel together.   There is no chemical reaction that is supposed to
lead to nuclear products.   3 years ago, MFMP found gamma rays and then
just blithely started chasing ghosts.

To keep such a risky public research project on-course would require that
it constantly allow for the democratic, 'Open Source' equivalent of 'peer
review'.

I seems perhaps this component is what the MFMP is missing. Perhaps not. I
barely follow this stuff, sadly.
But I DO know political-economy more than most.

More than Jed, for sure.

RE: [Vo]:LENR Insights from Proton 21

[bobcook39...@hotmail.com]

Jones—

The big bang may still hold, if the super heavies were formed early- on, caused 
the expansion early-- on (inflation) with repulsive gravity  and then changed 
to attractive gravity after the initial rapid inflation.

The big bang (BB) will become the standard of BB models,  SOBB.   It may 
require only the addition of a SINGLE constant!

Bob Cook



From: Che
Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2017 2:32 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:LENR Insights from Proton 21



On Sun, Jul 9, 2017 at 3:10 PM, Axil Axil 
> wrote:
http://rexresearch.com/stuff/stuff7/adamenko.pdf


There is another assumption connected with these sections and it refers to 
cosmology. It is known that there is a great quantity of "dark" matter in the 
universe, and it cannot be detected by ordinary tools. It is possible that the 
"black holes" we observed are part of this matter. It may be made of the nuclei 
of super heavy elements.
Display More

Such a fact would appear to militate against the 'Young Universe' 'Big Bang' 
theory, wouldn't it..? It would take a LOT of time to build up such a huge mass 
of trans-uranic elements thruout the Kosmos...

Re: [Vo]:Rossi versus Darden trial settled

[H LV]

Rossi was suing IH for millions of dollars, so he had to prove the device
in Florida worked as he claimed. If the trial proceeded I think it is very
likely that the preponderance of the evidence would not support his claim.

Harry

On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 10:07 AM, Jed Rothwell 
wrote:

> Kevin O'Malley  wrote:
>
>
>> On 7/9/17, Jed Rothwell  wrote:
>> OJ Simpson...
>> > Obviously he was guilty.
>> ***Then obviously Rossi is Not Guilty of Fraud.   You just agreed with
>> the legal standard.
>>
>
> I cannot judge legal standards. By scientific standards and by common
> sense standards he is guilty of fraud.
>
>
>
>> > All I did was read the Penon report. That's all it takes.
>> ***Bullshit.  Plenty of others have read the report and came to
>> different conclusions than you did.
>>
>
> Not as far as I know. Some people such as Axil refuse to read the report.
> Others people claim they read it and reached different conclusions, but
> they have not given any reasons. A few are so gullible they believe the
> post hoc lies about invisible heat exchangers that do not show in
> photographs. Such "conclusions" are so irrational they have no place in a
> serious discussion.
>
>
>
>>  At least his next intended victims
>> > have the court docket to warn them off.
>> ***Well if you were to write a point by point delineation of all the
>> scientific claims that are fraud then his next "intended victims"
>> would have that.
>>
>
> I have no idea what his next scheme will be. Perhaps it will be the
> QuarkX? Rossi told Lewan in the interview that he is setting up in Sweden
> where people want to invest. I suppose that means he has begun a new scam,
> but maybe he made that up and there are no investors.
>
> - Jed
>
>

Re: [Vo]:Rossi versus Darden trial settled

[Jed Rothwell]

Kevin O'Malley  wrote:


> On 7/9/17, Jed Rothwell  wrote:
> OJ Simpson...
> > Obviously he was guilty.
> ***Then obviously Rossi is Not Guilty of Fraud.   You just agreed with
> the legal standard.
>

I cannot judge legal standards. By scientific standards and by common sense
standards he is guilty of fraud.



> > All I did was read the Penon report. That's all it takes.
> ***Bullshit.  Plenty of others have read the report and came to
> different conclusions than you did.
>

Not as far as I know. Some people such as Axil refuse to read the report.
Others people claim they read it and reached different conclusions, but
they have not given any reasons. A few are so gullible they believe the
post hoc lies about invisible heat exchangers that do not show in
photographs. Such "conclusions" are so irrational they have no place in a
serious discussion.



>  At least his next intended victims
> > have the court docket to warn them off.
> ***Well if you were to write a point by point delineation of all the
> scientific claims that are fraud then his next "intended victims"
> would have that.
>

I have no idea what his next scheme will be. Perhaps it will be the QuarkX?
Rossi told Lewan in the interview that he is setting up in Sweden where
people want to invest. I suppose that means he has begun a new scam, but
maybe he made that up and there are no investors.

- Jed

Re: [Vo]:Rossi versus Darden trial settled

[Kevin O'Malley]

On 7/9/17, Jed Rothwell  wrote:
OJ Simpson...
> Obviously he was guilty.
***Then obviously Rossi is Not Guilty of Fraud.   You just agreed with
the legal standard.


> All I did was read the Penon report. That's all it takes.
***Bullshit.  Plenty of others have read the report and came to
different conclusions than you did.


 At least his next intended victims
> have the court docket to warn them off.
***Well if you were to write a point by point delineation of all the
scientific claims that are fraud then his next "intended victims"
would have that.

Re: [Vo]:Rossi versus Darden trial settled

[Kevin O'Malley]

 Jed Rothwell
5:36 PM (5 hours ago)



Nope. The legal system does not sue scientists for publishing fraudulent or
idiotic reports.
***The legal system brings its resources to bear upon scientists who scam
others with fraudulent reports.

 One reason is that no one can tell fools and frauds apart. When I first
saw Penon's data I though Penon and Rossi were fools, and I could see they
were copying data from one day to the next, which is borderline fraud, but
I never imagined they were engaged in wholesale fraud. The full report plus
the report from Murray are proof of that.
***You keep saying proof and you keep using the legal term 'fraud'.   If
you had proof of your neighbor committing armed robbery, the police would
round him up.   What you have is evidence that didn't even stand up in a
civil court.   It is far from proof and in fact it is proof that Rossi
could not be convicted of the crime.   So it's just you huffing and puffing
at this point.


If the legal system were to arrest scientists for stupid mistakes and bad
reports, most scientists would be in jail. As Bohr said, an expert is
someone who has made every possible mistake.
***They only go after those who use those stupid mistakes and deliberately
bad reports to scam investors.   That's what fraud is.   Not what you keep
saying it is.

The police also do not investigate people who pretend to have heat
exchangers and who do bad calorimetry.
***They would if it were proof of fraud.


 There are dozens of dishonest people selling fake over-unit engines
(perpetual motion machines). Even when they take large sums of money from
the public, the police do not bother them, as far as I know. Perhaps they
should, but they don't.
***As far as I know there have been some charlatan pseudoscientists put in
jail for defrauding the public.


  Kevmo: All the other stuff would be icing on the cake.   But Rossi is not
up on charges.   The standard of proof for civil cases (fraud in this case)
is "preponderance of evidence" and IH couldn't make the case.

Jed:  I don't know if they could or not.
***They settled!   That means they couldn't make the case!




The main point I want to make is that regardless of what the legal system
rules are, or preponderance of this or that, anyone with technical
knowledge can see from the Penon report that Rossi is a fraud.
***If that is such a strong case then IH would have had a slam dunk and
also the authorities would be rounding up Rossi as a fraud.


If you can't see that, you don't have technical knowledge. Or you blinded
by wishful thinking. Insofar as this is a technical debate based on
scientific & engineering laws, divorced from the legal system and its
standard of proof, there is no doubt Rossi is a liar and a fake.
***That's the problem with science.   Like when Al Gore said "there was no
controlling legal authority", in science there is no controlling authority
when someone is a liar and a fake.   For instance, when MIT fraudulently
changed their data to show a null result rather than a positive Anomalous
Heating Event.   There's no one to say:  "Those guys are frikken liars and
we're putting them in jail".   But such is not the case with the legal
community, and people are regularly put in jail for defrauding investors.
 So if I were you I'd start choosing a different term than fraud to
describe Rossi, maybe something like scientific charlatan, which is the
same term I would use for those MIT jerks.

 .