Re: [Vo]:Fwd: Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project just uploaded a video

[Kevin O'Malley]

 Over at EcatWorld



Bob Greenyer • 9 hours ago


I am now within a whisker of stating that LENR as in "Low Energy
Nuclear Reactions" (however they are caused) are real and testable
based on specific data. With reference to ECCO, without knowing for
certain that it is producing excess heat until after a test, the
feedstock/fuel/ash data points to Suhas being able to perform LENR.



Kevmo  to   Bob Greenyer • 26 minutes ago
So let's say you get past that whisker's width and state categorically
that it is LENR. How does MFMP replicate it and get others to
replicate this result?

Re: [Vo]:Fwd: Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project just uploaded a video

[Che]

Further on the below...

(Assuming its reality): could a future well-designed and crafted,
theoretically definitively-understood nano-scale nano-tek cold fusion
machine be designed, so that the 'ash' by-product would be forced out of
the arena of the 'reaction chambers' as part of the process of energy
release..? That way IMO you could be keeping at least part of the entire
process 'clean' of by-product build-up... and ready for the next batch of
fuel 'input'. As far as I understand any of this.

And whether that fuel and/or the reaction matrix itself must be
continuously delivered to the reaction site dynamically, by some nano-tek
means.






On Sun, Jul 23, 2017 at 4:49 PM, Che <comandantegri...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Sun, Jul 23, 2017 at 2:45 PM, bobcook39...@hotmail.com <
> bobcook39...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Che—
>>
>>
>>
>> You nailed my thought process.
>>
>>
>>
>> Look at the dots: and make logical connections with  PRACTICAL scheme for
>> testing.  This is IMHO the crux of R
>>
>>
>>
>> Bob Cook
>>
>
>
> AFAIC the key to 'success' -- scientific or monetary -- is to indeed
> 'KISS' (Keep It Simple, Stupid!), _first_.
>
> Without a 'killer app' device for ALL to get their hands on -- most likely
> some drop-dead-simple hot-steam generator, churning out Utility-free energy
> on-demand, in any location, for pennies -- what self-interested
> 'enterprise' would want to plow oodles of cash down a bottomless money-pit,
> on some vague expectation of 'profit' in some not-too-imminent haze-ridden
> future..? Most of them would probably rather put their money on the
> 'Underwear Gnomes' instead.
>
> So maybe this ECCO is Open Science's answer to the self-interested
> proprietary shithead types like Rossi -- and whatever these 'geniuses' have
> hidden up their sleeves at the moment.
>
> I really hope cavitation is the key to cheap, abundant cold fusion devices.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From: *Che <comandantegri...@gmail.com>
>> *Sent: *Saturday, July 22, 2017 9:38 PM
>> *To: *vortex-l@eskimo.com
>> *Subject: *Re: [Vo]:Fwd: Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project just
>> uploaded a video
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 2:57 PM, bobcook39...@hotmail.com <
>> bobcook39...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> TWO ideas about noble gases and fuel preparation:
>>
>>
>>
>>1. Being inert, they can be used in combination with H or D to
>>diffuse into a metallic lattice  and cause mico-cracking   with creation 
>> of
>>LENR active sites with large internal surface areas for formation of 
>> SSP’s.
>>2. Repeated cycling, gassing and degassing,  would allow measurement
>>of increased number of mico-cavities until a desired density is
>>established.   Careful measurement of the volume of gas that diffuses in
>>and out with each cycle would be instructive in this regard.  A mass
>>spectrometer to determine ratios of the diffusing gases and knowledge of
>>their diffusion rates in the fuel should provide additional information
>>regarding the status of micro-cavity density in the fuel.
>>
>>
>>
>> A nano-particle fracture mechanics analysis may be warranted to determine
>> desirable pressure and temperatures during cycling/fuel preparation.
>> Brittle-ductile transition temperature of the metallic fuel lattice would
>> help determine appropriate lower temperatures for cycling, since brittle
>> fractures with 1 or 2 dimensional characteristics may be a desirable LENR
>> geometry for SSP’s.  Acoustic emission   monitoring of the fuel cycling
>> would aid in determination of fracturing occurring during cycling at
>> various temperatures, pressures and noble gases being used.  (Cavities that
>> are too big  may be bad for LENR+.
>>
>>
>>
>> Bob Cook
>>
>> First it starts with the by-chance, haphazard nano-fracking.
>>
>> Then follows the sophisticated, calculated, systematic nano-tek
>> build-system...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: [Vo]:Fwd: Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project just uploaded a video

[Che]

On Sun, Jul 23, 2017 at 2:45 PM, bobcook39...@hotmail.com <
bobcook39...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Che—
>
>
>
> You nailed my thought process.
>
>
>
> Look at the dots: and make logical connections with  PRACTICAL scheme for
> testing.  This is IMHO the crux of R
>
>
>
> Bob Cook
>


AFAIC the key to 'success' -- scientific or monetary -- is to indeed 'KISS'
(Keep It Simple, Stupid!), _first_.

Without a 'killer app' device for ALL to get their hands on -- most likely
some drop-dead-simple hot-steam generator, churning out Utility-free energy
on-demand, in any location, for pennies -- what self-interested
'enterprise' would want to plow oodles of cash down a bottomless money-pit,
on some vague expectation of 'profit' in some not-too-imminent haze-ridden
future..? Most of them would probably rather put their money on the
'Underwear Gnomes' instead.

So maybe this ECCO is Open Science's answer to the self-interested
proprietary shithead types like Rossi -- and whatever these 'geniuses' have
hidden up their sleeves at the moment.

I really hope cavitation is the key to cheap, abundant cold fusion devices.





*From: *Che <comandantegri...@gmail.com>
> *Sent: *Saturday, July 22, 2017 9:38 PM
> *To: *vortex-l@eskimo.com
> *Subject: *Re: [Vo]:Fwd: Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project just
> uploaded a video
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 2:57 PM, bobcook39...@hotmail.com <
> bobcook39...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> TWO ideas about noble gases and fuel preparation:
>
>
>
>1. Being inert, they can be used in combination with H or D to diffuse
>into a metallic lattice  and cause mico-cracking   with creation of LENR
>active sites with large internal surface areas for formation of SSP’s.
>2. Repeated cycling, gassing and degassing,  would allow measurement
>of increased number of mico-cavities until a desired density is
>established.   Careful measurement of the volume of gas that diffuses in
>and out with each cycle would be instructive in this regard.  A mass
>spectrometer to determine ratios of the diffusing gases and knowledge of
>their diffusion rates in the fuel should provide additional information
>regarding the status of micro-cavity density in the fuel.
>
>
>
> A nano-particle fracture mechanics analysis may be warranted to determine
> desirable pressure and temperatures during cycling/fuel preparation.
> Brittle-ductile transition temperature of the metallic fuel lattice would
> help determine appropriate lower temperatures for cycling, since brittle
> fractures with 1 or 2 dimensional characteristics may be a desirable LENR
> geometry for SSP’s.  Acoustic emission   monitoring of the fuel cycling
> would aid in determination of fracturing occurring during cycling at
> various temperatures, pressures and noble gases being used.  (Cavities that
> are too big  may be bad for LENR+.
>
>
>
> Bob Cook
>
> First it starts with the by-chance, haphazard nano-fracking.
>
> Then follows the sophisticated, calculated, systematic nano-tek
> build-system...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

RE: [Vo]:Fwd: Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project just uploaded a video

[bobcook39...@hotmail.com]

Che—

You nailed my thought process.

Look at the dots: and make logical connections with  PRACTICAL scheme for 
testing.  This is IMHO the crux of R

Bob Cook

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From: Che<mailto:comandantegri...@gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2017 9:38 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com<mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com>
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Fwd: Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project just uploaded a video



On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 2:57 PM, 
bobcook39...@hotmail.com<mailto:bobcook39...@hotmail.com> 
<bobcook39...@hotmail.com<mailto:bobcook39...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
TWO ideas about noble gases and fuel preparation:


  1.  Being inert, they can be used in combination with H or D to diffuse into 
a metallic lattice  and cause mico-cracking   with creation of LENR active 
sites with large internal surface areas for formation of SSP’s.
  2.  Repeated cycling, gassing and degassing,  would allow measurement of 
increased number of mico-cavities until a desired density is established.   
Careful measurement of the volume of gas that diffuses in and out with each 
cycle would be instructive in this regard.  A mass spectrometer to determine 
ratios of the diffusing gases and knowledge of their diffusion rates in the 
fuel should provide additional information regarding the status of micro-cavity 
density in the fuel.



A nano-particle fracture mechanics analysis may be warranted to determine 
desirable pressure and temperatures during cycling/fuel preparation.  
Brittle-ductile transition temperature of the metallic fuel lattice would help 
determine appropriate lower temperatures for cycling, since brittle fractures 
with 1 or 2 dimensional characteristics may be a desirable LENR geometry for 
SSP’s.  Acoustic emission   monitoring of the fuel cycling would aid in 
determination of fracturing occurring during cycling at various temperatures, 
pressures and noble gases being used.  (Cavities that are too big  may be bad 
for LENR+.



Bob Cook
First it starts with the by-chance, haphazard nano-fracking.
Then follows the sophisticated, calculated, systematic nano-tek build-system...

Re: [Vo]:Fwd: Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project just uploaded a video

[Che]

On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 2:57 PM, bobcook39...@hotmail.com <
bobcook39...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> TWO ideas about noble gases and fuel preparation:
>
>
>
>1. Being inert, they can be used in combination with H or D to diffuse
>into a metallic lattice  and cause mico-cracking   with creation of LENR
>active sites with large internal surface areas for formation of SSP’s.
>2. Repeated cycling, gassing and degassing,  would allow measurement
>of increased number of mico-cavities until a desired density is
>established.   Careful measurement of the volume of gas that diffuses in
>and out with each cycle would be instructive in this regard.  A mass
>spectrometer to determine ratios of the diffusing gases and knowledge of
>their diffusion rates in the fuel should provide additional information
>regarding the status of micro-cavity density in the fuel.
>
>
>
> A nano-particle fracture mechanics analysis may be warranted to determine
> desirable pressure and temperatures during cycling/fuel preparation.
> Brittle-ductile transition temperature of the metallic fuel lattice would
> help determine appropriate lower temperatures for cycling, since brittle
> fractures with 1 or 2 dimensional characteristics may be a desirable LENR
> geometry for SSP’s.  Acoustic emission   monitoring of the fuel cycling
> would aid in determination of fracturing occurring during cycling at
> various temperatures, pressures and noble gases being used.  (Cavities that
> are too big  may be bad for LENR+.
>
>
>
> Bob Cook
>
First it starts with the by-chance, haphazard nano-fracking.
Then follows the sophisticated, calculated, systematic nano-tek
build-system...

RE: [Vo]:Fwd: Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project just uploaded a video

[bobcook39...@hotmail.com]

TWO ideas about noble gases and fuel preparation:


  1.  Being inert, they can be used in combination with H or D to diffuse into 
a metallic lattice  and cause mico-cracking   with creation of LENR active 
sites with large internal surface areas for formation of SSP’s.
  2.  Repeated cycling, gassing and degassing,  would allow measurement of 
increased number of mico-cavities until a desired density is established.   
Careful measurement of the volume of gas that diffuses in and out with each 
cycle would be instructive in this regard.  A mass spectrometer to determine 
ratios of the diffusing gases and knowledge of their diffusion rates in the 
fuel should provide additional information regarding the status of micro-cavity 
density in the fuel.



A nano-particle fracture mechanics analysis may be warranted to determine 
desirable pressure and temperatures during cycling/fuel preparation.  
Brittle-ductile transition temperature of the metallic fuel lattice would help 
determine appropriate lower temperatures for cycling, since brittle fractures 
with 1 or 2 dimensional characteristics may be a desirable LENR geometry for 
SSP’s.  Acoustic emission   monitoring of the fuel cycling would aid in 
determination of fracturing occurring during cycling at various temperatures, 
pressures and noble gases being used.  (Cavities that are too big  may be bad 
for LENR+.



Bob Cook
From: Axil Axil<mailto:janap...@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 10:46 AM
To: vortex-l<mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com>
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Fwd: Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project just uploaded a video

ECCO shows that the preparation of the LENR fuel is required for a sucessful 
LENR reaction to take hold.

This was true for the Papp engine all the way up to and including the Rossi and 
ME356 reactors.

We have to ask ourselves, what can the preparation of fuel do to enable the 
LENR effect? Something is produced in the fuel that is special. A theory of 
LENR must include a description and the function of the special element in the 
fuel. ECCO uses cavitation to produce this special thing. One of the most 
closely held secret that Rossi has is his method of fuel production. For 
example in the IH/Rossi lawsuit settlement, IH was force to destroy all written 
records about the production of the fuel. In the ME356 reactor test, ME356 
states that this fuel was weak because he did not have enough time to process 
the fuel. So the duel must be a state of matter that contains a LENR sensitive 
factor that takes time to produce and that factor increases over time. The ECCO 
fuel preparation process takes 200 hours to complete. So a cavitation based 
factor must accumulate the LENR factor a little at a time to become LENR 
enabled.

What can noble gas compounds and cavitation have in common?

Anybody have any ideas?

Re: [Vo]:Fwd: Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project just uploaded a video

[Kevin O'Malley]

I admit to being wrong, when I'm wrong.   That's step 10 for all you
friends of Bill.

And since I said pretty much EXACTLY the same thing you did, doesn't
that make you wrong?   The only one who's shown malice on this thread
is you.

On 7/21/17, Che  wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 5:18 AM, Kevin O'Malley 
> wrote:
>
>> You're saying EXACTLY the same thing I and others were saying on the
>> link provided, jerk.
>>
>
> At this point I do not CARE what you have to say: because the bottom line
> is, you injected 'it's a scam' into the thread, right at the beginning. For
> that alone, you are just wrong AND malicious AFAIC. On top of being the
> usual sort who will never admit to being wrong, no matter what.
>
>
> But back to the IMPORTANT things. Like *somebody*, somewhere, finally
> coming up with a cold fusion steam engine that churns out impressive
> quantities of energy, independent of the wastrel, polluting corporate
> utilities.
>

Re: [Vo]:Fwd: Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project just uploaded a video

[Che]

On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 2:46 PM, Axil Axil  wrote:

> ECCO shows that the preparation of the LENR fuel is required for a
> sucessful LENR reaction to take hold.
>
> This was true for the Papp engine all the way up to and including the
> Rossi and ME356 reactors.
>
> We have to ask ourselves, what can the preparation of fuel do to enable
> the LENR effect? Something is produced in the fuel that is special. A
> theory of LENR must include a description and the function of the special
> element in the fuel.
>

AFAIK, surface area is being maximized at some scale which is crucial for
cold fusion reactions to occur efficiently -- same inside a lattice as on
the surface of particles. There are probably any number of configurations
which would work, depending on the elements involved. Lots of variables
there.

Apparently, the smaller the grains -- the more closely the system
approaches an ideal state. Whatever that is.




> ECCO uses cavitation to produce this special thing.
>

This has to be one of the most important facts to take away from this (and
other?) cold fusion experiments. Cavitation -- along with directly-applied
radiation of sundry frequencies -- appears to be a/the most efficient
method of getting energy directly into whatever matter matrix is required
to sustain a reaction.





> One of the most closely held secret that Rossi has is his method of fuel
> production. For example in the IH/Rossi lawsuit settlement, IH was force to
> destroy all written records about the production of the fuel.
>

Secrecy empowers the powerful. It is, *by its very nature*,
ANTI-democratic. i.e.: a THREAT to democracy -- and thus a threat to
scientific inquiry and the scientific method. Not to mention good
engineering.

By corollary, the seeking-after of 'profit' is the handmaiden of said
secrecy and power-mongering.







> In the ME356 reactor test, ME356 states that this fuel was weak because he
> did not have enough time to process the fuel. So the duel must be a state
> of matter that contains a LENR sensitive factor that takes time to produce
> and that factor increases over time. The ECCO fuel preparation process
> takes 200 hours to complete. So a cavitation based factor must accumulate
> the LENR factor a little at a time to become LENR enabled.
>
> What can noble gas compounds and cavitation have in common?
>
> Anybody have any ideas?
>


Noble gases are essentially inert..?

AFAIK, what takes time here is the grinding down of the powder in a slurry,
to the optimum particle size: AFAIC _not_ a likely issue in any commercial
production process.

Re: [Vo]:Fwd: Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project just uploaded a video

[Axil Axil]

ECCO shows that the preparation of the LENR fuel is required for a
sucessful LENR reaction to take hold.

This was true for the Papp engine all the way up to and including the Rossi
and ME356 reactors.

We have to ask ourselves, what can the preparation of fuel do to enable the
LENR effect? Something is produced in the fuel that is special. A theory of
LENR must include a description and the function of the special element in
the fuel. ECCO uses cavitation to produce this special thing. One of the
most closely held secret that Rossi has is his method of fuel production.
For example in the IH/Rossi lawsuit settlement, IH was force to destroy all
written records about the production of the fuel. In the ME356 reactor
test, ME356 states that this fuel was weak because he did not have enough
time to process the fuel. So the duel must be a state of matter that
contains a LENR sensitive factor that takes time to produce and that factor
increases over time. The ECCO fuel preparation process takes 200 hours to
complete. So a cavitation based factor must accumulate the LENR factor a
little at a time to become LENR enabled.

What can noble gas compounds and cavitation have in common?

Anybody have any ideas?

On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 1:14 PM, Che  wrote:

>
>
> On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 5:18 AM, Kevin O'Malley 
> wrote:
>
>> You're saying EXACTLY the same thing I and others were saying on the
>> link provided, jerk.
>>
>
> At this point I do not CARE what you have to say: because the bottom line
> is, you injected 'it's a scam' into the thread, right at the beginning. For
> that alone, you are just wrong AND malicious AFAIC. On top of being the
> usual sort who will never admit to being wrong, no matter what.
>
>
> But back to the IMPORTANT things. Like *somebody*, somewhere, finally
> coming up with a cold fusion steam engine that churns out impressive
> quantities of energy, independent of the wastrel, polluting corporate
> utilities.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [Vo]:Fwd: Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project just uploaded a video

[Che]

On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 5:18 AM, Kevin O'Malley  wrote:

> You're saying EXACTLY the same thing I and others were saying on the
> link provided, jerk.
>

At this point I do not CARE what you have to say: because the bottom line
is, you injected 'it's a scam' into the thread, right at the beginning. For
that alone, you are just wrong AND malicious AFAIC. On top of being the
usual sort who will never admit to being wrong, no matter what.


But back to the IMPORTANT things. Like *somebody*, somewhere, finally
coming up with a cold fusion steam engine that churns out impressive
quantities of energy, independent of the wastrel, polluting corporate
utilities.

Re: [Vo]:Fwd: Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project just uploaded a video

[Kevin O'Malley]

You're saying EXACTLY the same thing I and others were saying on the
link provided, jerk.



On 7/21/17, Che  wrote:
>
>>
>
> What you said sounded nothing of the sort; so don't B.S. us, OK? And as for
> the 'logic' of this thing: while banks are forever run by greedy assholes
> and can be expected to ALWAYS make pin-headed 'business' decisions, the
> *timing* of this particular blindside seems AFAIC wholly suspicious... and
> IMO speaks of outside interference. But how that then morphs into a
> 'scamming' of a perennially underfunded volunteer undertaking like the MFMP
> stretches the very concept.
>
> So again: I think you're trying to 'pull a fast one' here, to cover for
> your initial bad attitude.
> Like the ruling-class oligarchy and its minions: NEVER admit you're wrong.
> Right?
>
> In any case: I hope this guy and his team make it to Europa -- and to a new
> lab. And DON'T start 'pulling a Rossi' on the World.
>
>
>
>
>
>>
>> On 7/20/17, Che  wrote:
>> > On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 5:16 PM, Kevin O'Malley 
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> What?   You're the one who started with the personal bullshit.
>> >> Buying real estate to help out an experimenter's debt situation is
>> >> pretty far afield from what MFMP's stated mission is declared.
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> > You *accused* them of scamming. YOU started this, bub.
>> > But I have lots of experience with your type, understand... so don't
>> think
>> > you're going to be able to misdirect anything here.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >> On 7/20/17, Che  wrote:
>> >> > On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 1:41 PM, Kevin O'Malley
>> >> > 
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Occham's Razor applies in scientific politics as well as it applies
>> to
>> >> >> other inductive pursuits.  And I'm not the one prevaricating, I'm
>> >> >> trying to get PAST the evasion.   Why are you even here with your
>> >> >> attitude?
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > 'I know you are -- but what am I??'
>> >> >
>> >> > I expect such juvenile games from people who start off poisoning the
>> >> well,
>> >> > like you did.
>> >> >
>> >> > So be it.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On 7/20/17, Che  wrote:
>> >> >> > On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 5:03 AM, Kevin O'Malley
>> >> >> > 
>> >> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> Because if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, walks like
>> >> >> >> a
>> >> >> >> duck, etc., it's probably a duck.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > That's the kind of bullshit, status-quo prevarication we get in
>> >> Politix
>> >> >> all
>> >> >> > the time, eh? Shame on you for trying it here. It's not unlike
>> >> >> > kicking
>> >> >> > someone in the head when they're already down: it's too easy, and
>> >> >> > it's
>> >> >> not
>> >> >> > fair play. Why are you even here, with an attitude like that..?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Frankly Bub, this thing is NOT quacking like a duck as far as I
>> >> >> > can
>> >> >> > see,
>> >> >> > based on a few videos and articles. I'm hoping we're actually
>> seeing
>> >> >> > what
>> >> >> > many of us hope we are seeing. HOW these things always end up
>> >> >> > failing
>> >> >> > in
>> >> >> > the end, is what *I* want to know. The MFMP guy speaks elsewhere
>> >> >> > of
>> >> >> > 'dark
>> >> >> > forces'... and being the subject of 'dark forces' myself -- I
>> *KNOW*
>> >> >> > they
>> >> >> > really DO exist. So AFAIC: there IS likely a conspiracy to derail
>> >> >> > ALL
>> >> >> cold
>> >> >> > fusion research.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > And I wonder who'd be behind THAT effort...
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > For that matter: who burned down Tesla's lab..? I'll give you
>> >> >> > three
>> >> >> > guesses. That's all you'd need.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> http://e-catworld.com/2017/07/14/mfmp-plan-and-proposal-
>> >> >> >> regarding-ecco-device/
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> On 7/20/17, Che  wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Why would anyone think this guy is having the World on, as
>> >> >> >> > some
>> >> sort
>> >> >> of
>> >> >> >> > scam..? That sort of thinking is AFAIC simply more ritual
>> >> >> >> > abuse
>> >> >> >> > of
>> >> >> >> Occam's
>> >> >> >> > poor razor. Considering the HUGE amount of work AND resources
>> >> people
>> >> >> >> > put
>> >> >> >> > into these sorts of things, *you* people really should be
>> >> >> >> > compelled
>> >> >> >> > to
>> >> >> >> > *give them reasonable benefit of the doubt* -- until
>> >> >> >> > 'something
>> >> >> >> > comes
>> >> >> >> > up'
>> >> >> >> > to -- justifiably -- indicate otherwise.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Sheesh. Misanthropists.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>>
>

Re: [Vo]:Fwd: Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project just uploaded a video

[Che]

On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 7:06 PM, Kevin O'Malley  wrote:

> I didn't accuse Suhas of scamming, although that's a distinct
> possibility.   It looks to me like the lawyers and bankers that have a
> hold over Suhas might be running a scam and I was urging MFMP to use
> caution.   At the very least, buying real estate is  pretty far afield
> from what MFMP's mission statement projects.
>
> And in the link provided, I'm not the only one saying such things.
> So pipe down, bub.   Argue the facts, not personality "types" and pure
> bullshit.
>

What you said sounded nothing of the sort; so don't B.S. us, OK? And as for
the 'logic' of this thing: while banks are forever run by greedy assholes
and can be expected to ALWAYS make pin-headed 'business' decisions, the
*timing* of this particular blindside seems AFAIC wholly suspicious... and
IMO speaks of outside interference. But how that then morphs into a
'scamming' of a perennially underfunded volunteer undertaking like the MFMP
stretches the very concept.

So again: I think you're trying to 'pull a fast one' here, to cover for
your initial bad attitude.
Like the ruling-class oligarchy and its minions: NEVER admit you're wrong.
Right?

In any case: I hope this guy and his team make it to Europa -- and to a new
lab. And DON'T start 'pulling a Rossi' on the World.





>
> On 7/20/17, Che  wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 5:16 PM, Kevin O'Malley 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> What?   You're the one who started with the personal bullshit.
> >> Buying real estate to help out an experimenter's debt situation is
> >> pretty far afield from what MFMP's stated mission is declared.
> >>
> >
> >
> > You *accused* them of scamming. YOU started this, bub.
> > But I have lots of experience with your type, understand... so don't
> think
> > you're going to be able to misdirect anything here.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>
> >> On 7/20/17, Che  wrote:
> >> > On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 1:41 PM, Kevin O'Malley 
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Occham's Razor applies in scientific politics as well as it applies
> to
> >> >> other inductive pursuits.  And I'm not the one prevaricating, I'm
> >> >> trying to get PAST the evasion.   Why are you even here with your
> >> >> attitude?
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > 'I know you are -- but what am I??'
> >> >
> >> > I expect such juvenile games from people who start off poisoning the
> >> well,
> >> > like you did.
> >> >
> >> > So be it.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> On 7/20/17, Che  wrote:
> >> >> > On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 5:03 AM, Kevin O'Malley
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> Because if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, walks like a
> >> >> >> duck, etc., it's probably a duck.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> > That's the kind of bullshit, status-quo prevarication we get in
> >> Politix
> >> >> all
> >> >> > the time, eh? Shame on you for trying it here. It's not unlike
> >> >> > kicking
> >> >> > someone in the head when they're already down: it's too easy, and
> >> >> > it's
> >> >> not
> >> >> > fair play. Why are you even here, with an attitude like that..?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Frankly Bub, this thing is NOT quacking like a duck as far as I can
> >> >> > see,
> >> >> > based on a few videos and articles. I'm hoping we're actually
> seeing
> >> >> > what
> >> >> > many of us hope we are seeing. HOW these things always end up
> >> >> > failing
> >> >> > in
> >> >> > the end, is what *I* want to know. The MFMP guy speaks elsewhere of
> >> >> > 'dark
> >> >> > forces'... and being the subject of 'dark forces' myself -- I
> *KNOW*
> >> >> > they
> >> >> > really DO exist. So AFAIC: there IS likely a conspiracy to derail
> >> >> > ALL
> >> >> cold
> >> >> > fusion research.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > And I wonder who'd be behind THAT effort...
> >> >> >
> >> >> > For that matter: who burned down Tesla's lab..? I'll give you three
> >> >> > guesses. That's all you'd need.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> http://e-catworld.com/2017/07/14/mfmp-plan-and-proposal-
> >> >> >> regarding-ecco-device/
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On 7/20/17, Che  wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Why would anyone think this guy is having the World on, as some
> >> sort
> >> >> of
> >> >> >> > scam..? That sort of thinking is AFAIC simply more ritual abuse
> >> >> >> > of
> >> >> >> Occam's
> >> >> >> > poor razor. Considering the HUGE amount of work AND resources
> >> people
> >> >> >> > put
> >> >> >> > into these sorts of things, *you* people really should be
> >> >> >> > compelled
> >> >> >> > to
> >> >> >> > *give them reasonable benefit of the doubt* -- until 'something
> >> >> >> > comes
> >> >> >> > up'
> >> >> >> > to -- justifiably -- indicate otherwise.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> 

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[Kevin O'Malley]

I didn't accuse Suhas of scamming, although that's a distinct
possibility.   It looks to me like the lawyers and bankers that have a
hold over Suhas might be running a scam and I was urging MFMP to use
caution.   At the very least, buying real estate is  pretty far afield
from what MFMP's mission statement projects.

And in the link provided, I'm not the only one saying such things.
So pipe down, bub.   Argue the facts, not personality "types" and pure
bullshit.

On 7/20/17, Che  wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 5:16 PM, Kevin O'Malley 
> wrote:
>
>> What?   You're the one who started with the personal bullshit.
>> Buying real estate to help out an experimenter's debt situation is
>> pretty far afield from what MFMP's stated mission is declared.
>>
>
>
> You *accused* them of scamming. YOU started this, bub.
> But I have lots of experience with your type, understand... so don't think
> you're going to be able to misdirect anything here.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>
>> On 7/20/17, Che  wrote:
>> > On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 1:41 PM, Kevin O'Malley 
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Occham's Razor applies in scientific politics as well as it applies to
>> >> other inductive pursuits.  And I'm not the one prevaricating, I'm
>> >> trying to get PAST the evasion.   Why are you even here with your
>> >> attitude?
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> > 'I know you are -- but what am I??'
>> >
>> > I expect such juvenile games from people who start off poisoning the
>> well,
>> > like you did.
>> >
>> > So be it.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >> On 7/20/17, Che  wrote:
>> >> > On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 5:03 AM, Kevin O'Malley
>> >> > 
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Because if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, walks like a
>> >> >> duck, etc., it's probably a duck.
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > That's the kind of bullshit, status-quo prevarication we get in
>> Politix
>> >> all
>> >> > the time, eh? Shame on you for trying it here. It's not unlike
>> >> > kicking
>> >> > someone in the head when they're already down: it's too easy, and
>> >> > it's
>> >> not
>> >> > fair play. Why are you even here, with an attitude like that..?
>> >> >
>> >> > Frankly Bub, this thing is NOT quacking like a duck as far as I can
>> >> > see,
>> >> > based on a few videos and articles. I'm hoping we're actually seeing
>> >> > what
>> >> > many of us hope we are seeing. HOW these things always end up
>> >> > failing
>> >> > in
>> >> > the end, is what *I* want to know. The MFMP guy speaks elsewhere of
>> >> > 'dark
>> >> > forces'... and being the subject of 'dark forces' myself -- I *KNOW*
>> >> > they
>> >> > really DO exist. So AFAIC: there IS likely a conspiracy to derail
>> >> > ALL
>> >> cold
>> >> > fusion research.
>> >> >
>> >> > And I wonder who'd be behind THAT effort...
>> >> >
>> >> > For that matter: who burned down Tesla's lab..? I'll give you three
>> >> > guesses. That's all you'd need.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> http://e-catworld.com/2017/07/14/mfmp-plan-and-proposal-
>> >> >> regarding-ecco-device/
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On 7/20/17, Che  wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Why would anyone think this guy is having the World on, as some
>> sort
>> >> of
>> >> >> > scam..? That sort of thinking is AFAIC simply more ritual abuse
>> >> >> > of
>> >> >> Occam's
>> >> >> > poor razor. Considering the HUGE amount of work AND resources
>> people
>> >> >> > put
>> >> >> > into these sorts of things, *you* people really should be
>> >> >> > compelled
>> >> >> > to
>> >> >> > *give them reasonable benefit of the doubt* -- until 'something
>> >> >> > comes
>> >> >> > up'
>> >> >> > to -- justifiably -- indicate otherwise.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Sheesh. Misanthropists.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>>
>

Re: [Vo]:Fwd: Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project just uploaded a video

[Che]

On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 5:16 PM, Kevin O'Malley  wrote:

> What?   You're the one who started with the personal bullshit.
> Buying real estate to help out an experimenter's debt situation is
> pretty far afield from what MFMP's stated mission is declared.
>


You *accused* them of scamming. YOU started this, bub.
But I have lots of experience with your type, understand... so don't think
you're going to be able to misdirect anything here.








>
> On 7/20/17, Che  wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 1:41 PM, Kevin O'Malley 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Occham's Razor applies in scientific politics as well as it applies to
> >> other inductive pursuits.  And I'm not the one prevaricating, I'm
> >> trying to get PAST the evasion.   Why are you even here with your
> >> attitude?
> >>
> >
> >
> > 'I know you are -- but what am I??'
> >
> > I expect such juvenile games from people who start off poisoning the
> well,
> > like you did.
> >
> > So be it.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>
> >> On 7/20/17, Che  wrote:
> >> > On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 5:03 AM, Kevin O'Malley 
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Because if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, walks like a
> >> >> duck, etc., it's probably a duck.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > That's the kind of bullshit, status-quo prevarication we get in
> Politix
> >> all
> >> > the time, eh? Shame on you for trying it here. It's not unlike kicking
> >> > someone in the head when they're already down: it's too easy, and it's
> >> not
> >> > fair play. Why are you even here, with an attitude like that..?
> >> >
> >> > Frankly Bub, this thing is NOT quacking like a duck as far as I can
> >> > see,
> >> > based on a few videos and articles. I'm hoping we're actually seeing
> >> > what
> >> > many of us hope we are seeing. HOW these things always end up failing
> >> > in
> >> > the end, is what *I* want to know. The MFMP guy speaks elsewhere of
> >> > 'dark
> >> > forces'... and being the subject of 'dark forces' myself -- I *KNOW*
> >> > they
> >> > really DO exist. So AFAIC: there IS likely a conspiracy to derail ALL
> >> cold
> >> > fusion research.
> >> >
> >> > And I wonder who'd be behind THAT effort...
> >> >
> >> > For that matter: who burned down Tesla's lab..? I'll give you three
> >> > guesses. That's all you'd need.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> http://e-catworld.com/2017/07/14/mfmp-plan-and-proposal-
> >> >> regarding-ecco-device/
> >> >>
> >> >> On 7/20/17, Che  wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Why would anyone think this guy is having the World on, as some
> sort
> >> of
> >> >> > scam..? That sort of thinking is AFAIC simply more ritual abuse of
> >> >> Occam's
> >> >> > poor razor. Considering the HUGE amount of work AND resources
> people
> >> >> > put
> >> >> > into these sorts of things, *you* people really should be compelled
> >> >> > to
> >> >> > *give them reasonable benefit of the doubt* -- until 'something
> >> >> > comes
> >> >> > up'
> >> >> > to -- justifiably -- indicate otherwise.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Sheesh. Misanthropists.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>

Re: [Vo]:Fwd: Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project just uploaded a video

[Kevin O'Malley]

What?   You're the one who started with the personal bullshit.
Buying real estate to help out an experimenter's debt situation is
pretty far afield from what MFMP's stated mission is declared.

On 7/20/17, Che  wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 1:41 PM, Kevin O'Malley 
> wrote:
>
>> Occham's Razor applies in scientific politics as well as it applies to
>> other inductive pursuits.  And I'm not the one prevaricating, I'm
>> trying to get PAST the evasion.   Why are you even here with your
>> attitude?
>>
>
>
> 'I know you are -- but what am I??'
>
> I expect such juvenile games from people who start off poisoning the well,
> like you did.
>
> So be it.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>
>> On 7/20/17, Che  wrote:
>> > On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 5:03 AM, Kevin O'Malley 
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Because if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, walks like a
>> >> duck, etc., it's probably a duck.
>> >>
>> >
>> > That's the kind of bullshit, status-quo prevarication we get in Politix
>> all
>> > the time, eh? Shame on you for trying it here. It's not unlike kicking
>> > someone in the head when they're already down: it's too easy, and it's
>> not
>> > fair play. Why are you even here, with an attitude like that..?
>> >
>> > Frankly Bub, this thing is NOT quacking like a duck as far as I can
>> > see,
>> > based on a few videos and articles. I'm hoping we're actually seeing
>> > what
>> > many of us hope we are seeing. HOW these things always end up failing
>> > in
>> > the end, is what *I* want to know. The MFMP guy speaks elsewhere of
>> > 'dark
>> > forces'... and being the subject of 'dark forces' myself -- I *KNOW*
>> > they
>> > really DO exist. So AFAIC: there IS likely a conspiracy to derail ALL
>> cold
>> > fusion research.
>> >
>> > And I wonder who'd be behind THAT effort...
>> >
>> > For that matter: who burned down Tesla's lab..? I'll give you three
>> > guesses. That's all you'd need.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >> http://e-catworld.com/2017/07/14/mfmp-plan-and-proposal-
>> >> regarding-ecco-device/
>> >>
>> >> On 7/20/17, Che  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > Why would anyone think this guy is having the World on, as some sort
>> of
>> >> > scam..? That sort of thinking is AFAIC simply more ritual abuse of
>> >> Occam's
>> >> > poor razor. Considering the HUGE amount of work AND resources people
>> >> > put
>> >> > into these sorts of things, *you* people really should be compelled
>> >> > to
>> >> > *give them reasonable benefit of the doubt* -- until 'something
>> >> > comes
>> >> > up'
>> >> > to -- justifiably -- indicate otherwise.
>> >> >
>> >> > Sheesh. Misanthropists.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>>
>

Re: [Vo]:Fwd: Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project just uploaded a video

[Che]

On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 1:41 PM, Kevin O'Malley  wrote:

> Occham's Razor applies in scientific politics as well as it applies to
> other inductive pursuits.  And I'm not the one prevaricating, I'm
> trying to get PAST the evasion.   Why are you even here with your
> attitude?
>


'I know you are -- but what am I??'

I expect such juvenile games from people who start off poisoning the well,
like you did.

So be it.







>
> On 7/20/17, Che  wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 5:03 AM, Kevin O'Malley 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Because if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, walks like a
> >> duck, etc., it's probably a duck.
> >>
> >
> > That's the kind of bullshit, status-quo prevarication we get in Politix
> all
> > the time, eh? Shame on you for trying it here. It's not unlike kicking
> > someone in the head when they're already down: it's too easy, and it's
> not
> > fair play. Why are you even here, with an attitude like that..?
> >
> > Frankly Bub, this thing is NOT quacking like a duck as far as I can see,
> > based on a few videos and articles. I'm hoping we're actually seeing what
> > many of us hope we are seeing. HOW these things always end up failing in
> > the end, is what *I* want to know. The MFMP guy speaks elsewhere of 'dark
> > forces'... and being the subject of 'dark forces' myself -- I *KNOW* they
> > really DO exist. So AFAIC: there IS likely a conspiracy to derail ALL
> cold
> > fusion research.
> >
> > And I wonder who'd be behind THAT effort...
> >
> > For that matter: who burned down Tesla's lab..? I'll give you three
> > guesses. That's all you'd need.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>
> >> http://e-catworld.com/2017/07/14/mfmp-plan-and-proposal-
> >> regarding-ecco-device/
> >>
> >> On 7/20/17, Che  wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> > Why would anyone think this guy is having the World on, as some sort
> of
> >> > scam..? That sort of thinking is AFAIC simply more ritual abuse of
> >> Occam's
> >> > poor razor. Considering the HUGE amount of work AND resources people
> >> > put
> >> > into these sorts of things, *you* people really should be compelled to
> >> > *give them reasonable benefit of the doubt* -- until 'something comes
> >> > up'
> >> > to -- justifiably -- indicate otherwise.
> >> >
> >> > Sheesh. Misanthropists.
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>

Re: [Vo]:Fwd: Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project just uploaded a video

[Kevin O'Malley]

Occham's Razor applies in scientific politics as well as it applies to
other inductive pursuits.  And I'm not the one prevaricating, I'm
trying to get PAST the evasion.   Why are you even here with your
attitude?

On 7/20/17, Che  wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 5:03 AM, Kevin O'Malley 
> wrote:
>
>> Because if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, walks like a
>> duck, etc., it's probably a duck.
>>
>
> That's the kind of bullshit, status-quo prevarication we get in Politix all
> the time, eh? Shame on you for trying it here. It's not unlike kicking
> someone in the head when they're already down: it's too easy, and it's not
> fair play. Why are you even here, with an attitude like that..?
>
> Frankly Bub, this thing is NOT quacking like a duck as far as I can see,
> based on a few videos and articles. I'm hoping we're actually seeing what
> many of us hope we are seeing. HOW these things always end up failing in
> the end, is what *I* want to know. The MFMP guy speaks elsewhere of 'dark
> forces'... and being the subject of 'dark forces' myself -- I *KNOW* they
> really DO exist. So AFAIC: there IS likely a conspiracy to derail ALL cold
> fusion research.
>
> And I wonder who'd be behind THAT effort...
>
> For that matter: who burned down Tesla's lab..? I'll give you three
> guesses. That's all you'd need.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>
>> http://e-catworld.com/2017/07/14/mfmp-plan-and-proposal-
>> regarding-ecco-device/
>>
>> On 7/20/17, Che  wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > Why would anyone think this guy is having the World on, as some sort of
>> > scam..? That sort of thinking is AFAIC simply more ritual abuse of
>> Occam's
>> > poor razor. Considering the HUGE amount of work AND resources people
>> > put
>> > into these sorts of things, *you* people really should be compelled to
>> > *give them reasonable benefit of the doubt* -- until 'something comes
>> > up'
>> > to -- justifiably -- indicate otherwise.
>> >
>> > Sheesh. Misanthropists.
>>
>>
>

Re: [Vo]:Fwd: Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project just uploaded a video

[Che]

On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 5:03 AM, Kevin O'Malley  wrote:

> Because if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, walks like a
> duck, etc., it's probably a duck.
>

That's the kind of bullshit, status-quo prevarication we get in Politix all
the time, eh? Shame on you for trying it here. It's not unlike kicking
someone in the head when they're already down: it's too easy, and it's not
fair play. Why are you even here, with an attitude like that..?

Frankly Bub, this thing is NOT quacking like a duck as far as I can see,
based on a few videos and articles. I'm hoping we're actually seeing what
many of us hope we are seeing. HOW these things always end up failing in
the end, is what *I* want to know. The MFMP guy speaks elsewhere of 'dark
forces'... and being the subject of 'dark forces' myself -- I *KNOW* they
really DO exist. So AFAIC: there IS likely a conspiracy to derail ALL cold
fusion research.

And I wonder who'd be behind THAT effort...

For that matter: who burned down Tesla's lab..? I'll give you three
guesses. That's all you'd need.






>
> http://e-catworld.com/2017/07/14/mfmp-plan-and-proposal-
> regarding-ecco-device/
>
> On 7/20/17, Che  wrote:
>
> >
> > Why would anyone think this guy is having the World on, as some sort of
> > scam..? That sort of thinking is AFAIC simply more ritual abuse of
> Occam's
> > poor razor. Considering the HUGE amount of work AND resources people put
> > into these sorts of things, *you* people really should be compelled to
> > *give them reasonable benefit of the doubt* -- until 'something comes up'
> > to -- justifiably -- indicate otherwise.
> >
> > Sheesh. Misanthropists.
>
>

Re: [Vo]:Fwd: Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project just uploaded a video

[Kevin O'Malley]

Because if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, walks like a
duck, etc., it's probably a duck.

http://e-catworld.com/2017/07/14/mfmp-plan-and-proposal-regarding-ecco-device/

On 7/20/17, Che  wrote:

>
> Why would anyone think this guy is having the World on, as some sort of
> scam..? That sort of thinking is AFAIC simply more ritual abuse of Occam's
> poor razor. Considering the HUGE amount of work AND resources people put
> into these sorts of things, *you* people really should be compelled to
> *give them reasonable benefit of the doubt* -- until 'something comes up'
> to -- justifiably -- indicate otherwise.
>
> Sheesh. Misanthropists.

Re: [Vo]:Fwd: Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project just uploaded a video

[Che]

On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 2:56 AM, Kevin O'Malley  wrote:

> Last I was looking into this, it seemed like there was a scam being
> run on MFMP.   It took all this rigmarole to get the guy to work with
> you on a replication?
>

The SoundCloud audio clips make it clear that the main issue is the BANKS.
i.e.: the LOANSHARKS this guy was forced to mortgage his property to, or
similar.

The *interesting* stuff is the speculation that this apparently _elegant_
use of  sonic pressure involves *cavitation* operating on the
micrometer-size particles inside the slender ceramic tubing between the
electrodes. The video shows impressive heat production involving likely
said tubes.


Why would anyone think this guy is having the World on, as some sort of
scam..? That sort of thinking is AFAIC simply more ritual abuse of Occam's
poor razor. Considering the HUGE amount of work AND resources people put
into these sorts of things, *you* people really should be compelled to
*give them reasonable benefit of the doubt* -- until 'something comes up'
to -- justifiably -- indicate otherwise.

Sheesh. Misanthropists.






> On 7/19/17, Che  wrote:
> > So... what do people think about the ECCO cold fusion project from an
> > Indian team? The MFMP seem impressed by a claimed COP of 8.
>

Re: [Vo]:Fwd: Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project just uploaded a video

[Kevin O'Malley]

Last I was looking into this, it seemed like there was a scam being
run on MFMP.   It took all this rigmarole to get the guy to work with
you on a replication?

On 7/19/17, Che  wrote:
> So... what do people think about the ECCO cold fusion project from an
> Indian team? The MFMP seem impressed by a claimed COP of 8.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -- Forwarded message --
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>
>
> Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project
> 
> has uploaded Slowly slowly catch the monkey
> 
> After reviewing the decisio...
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>
> Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project
> 
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> 
> 
>
> Slowly slowly catch the monkey
> 
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> 
>
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[Che]

So... what do people think about the ECCO cold fusion project from an
Indian team? The MFMP seem impressed by a claimed COP of 8.







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From: YouTube 
Date: Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 10:15 PM
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To: Trotskisty 


Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project

has uploaded Slowly slowly catch the monkey

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Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project

has uploaded Slowly slowly catch the monkey



Slowly slowly catch the monkey


Martin
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