For my own edification I continued to think about the issue of
potential energy gain and loss and I realise it depends on the
interatomic forces within the spring.
Cooling the compressed spring reduces the vibrations of the atoms in
the spring, and allows the interatomic forces to strengthen
On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 1:03 AM, Jouni Valkonen jounivalko...@gmail.com wrote:
On 8 September 2012 06:55, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote:
When that system is submerged in the cold bath, the
spring will become stiffer and this will translate into more pressure
on the ends of the box,
I would still like to know what SMA... means.
harry
On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Harry may be setting you up for SMA...
SMA = Shape memory alloy ...
There are others which are not nickel titanium alloys
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shape-memory_alloy
-Original Message-
From: Harry Veeder
I would still like to know what SMA... means.
harry
ahh thanks, because the first page of a google search for SMA lists
spinal muscular atrophy and the initials of some organizations.
harry
On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 7:27 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
SMA = Shape memory alloy ...
There are others which are not nickel titanium alloys
, 2012 10:25 pm
Subject: [Vo]:Compressed spring - what happens to the stored energy at
different temperatures?
If a spring is compressed by a force at room temperature, the spring
will return to its original length once the force is removed.
In the language of CoE the compressed spring is said
On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 1:00 AM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax a...@lomaxdesign.com
wrote:
At 08:16 PM 9/6/2012, Harry Veeder wrote:
If a spring is compressed by a force at room temperature, the spring
will return to its original length once the force is removed.
In the language of CoE the compressed
I do not think that this thought experiment works with springs. That is
because spring energy is stored into compression of electron orbitals into
higher energy levels. This means that compressed spring is more massive due
to E=mc². However this is very intriguing thought experiment, because on
Harry may be setting you up for SMA...
You only need to watch the first 3 minutes of this - to see the surprising
motor that raised a lot of eyebrows at the time - but never got traction, so
to speak...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKmYqUSDch8
wow, so who (or what) killed the nitinol heat engine?
and what does SMA mean?
This nitinol machine converts heat into mechanical energy. What I am
exploring is a sort of anti-heat engine - the destruction of
mechanical energy by cold.
harry
On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Jones Beene
So are we saying CF is really SLINKY POWER antigravity phenomenon? :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WktQfP0lgo
On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 3:05 PM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote:
wow, so who (or what) killed the nitinol heat engine?
and what does SMA mean?
This nitinol machine
Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, Sep 7, 2012 1:16 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Compressed spring - what happens to the stored energy at
different temperatures?
snip...
You could get results of the opposite nature if you place a metal bar
between two firmly
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax asked:
You could create a much simpler violation. You slip a rectangular box of
the right size over the compressed spring, so it can't return to its
original size. Where did the potential energy go?
I answered,
It is still present because the box is performing the same
On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 9:39 PM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote:
Abd ul-Rahman Lomax asked:
You could create a much simpler violation. You slip a rectangular box of
the right size over the compressed spring, so it can't return to its
original size. Where did the potential energy go?
On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 2:20 PM, Jouni Valkonen jounivalko...@gmail.com wrote:
I do not think that this thought experiment works with springs. That is
because spring energy is stored into compression of electron orbitals into
higher energy levels. This means that compressed spring is more
of the box, and therefore more potential energy.
harry
-Original Message-
From: Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, Sep 7, 2012 1:16 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Compressed spring - what happens to the stored energy at
different temperatures?
snip
On 8 September 2012 06:55, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote:
When that system is submerged in the cold bath, the
spring will become stiffer and this will translate into more pressure
on the ends of the box, and therefore more potential energy.
I think that here you have just 'normal'
If a spring is compressed by a force at room temperature, the spring
will return to its original length once the force is removed.
In the language of CoE the compressed spring is said to store the
energy of the work done by the force.
Now compress the spring again and then place it in a bath of
the heat energy is extracted by cooling.
Dave
-Original Message-
From: Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, Sep 6, 2012 10:25 pm
Subject: [Vo]:Compressed spring - what happens to the stored energy at
different temperatures?
If a spring is compressed
At 08:16 PM 9/6/2012, Harry Veeder wrote:
If a spring is compressed by a force at room temperature, the spring
will return to its original length once the force is removed.
In the language of CoE the compressed spring is said to store the
energy of the work done by the force.
Now compress the
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