Re: [Vo]:Could undetected nuclear isomers explain any LENR?

2011-11-07 Thread mixent
In reply to Mauro Lacy's message of Sun, 06 Nov 2011 12:09:05 -0300: Hi, [snip] Now, assuming that the hypothesis is true, and proceeding in reverse order, we could(I want to clarify that I would NOT do it): - search for the geatest Internal Conversion Coefficients for a given element. - search

Re: [Vo]:Could undetected nuclear isomers explain any LENR?

2011-11-06 Thread Mauro Lacy
On 11/06/2011 02:49 AM, pagnu...@htdconnect.com wrote: I am not sure which, if any, nickel isotopes admit isomeric states. Perhaps, electrodes, container walls, or contaminants in nickel (or palladium) could be the source of some yet unidentified isomers. I am quite perplexed that

Re: [Vo]:Could undetected nuclear isomers explain any LENR?

2011-11-06 Thread Mauro Lacy
On 11/06/2011 12:09 PM, Mauro Lacy wrote: On 11/06/2011 02:49 AM, pagnu...@htdconnect.com wrote: I am not sure which, if any, nickel isotopes admit isomeric states. Perhaps, electrodes, container walls, or contaminants in nickel (or palladium) could be the source of some yet unidentified

Re: [Vo]:Could undetected nuclear isomers explain any LENR?

2011-11-06 Thread pagnucco
Thanks for your thoughts and suggestions, Mauro. - I will check into Beene's posts on the topic. One last question I wonder about is whether any certain symmetry in an isomeric nucleus insures that a decay to ground state will cause emission of multiple less energetic quanta in order to respect

Re: [Vo]:Could undetected nuclear isomers explain any LENR?

2011-11-05 Thread mixent
In reply to Danny Ross Lunsford's message of Fri, 4 Nov 2011 20:33:53 -0700 (PDT): Hi, [snip] This is sort of what seems most natural to me. Something is happening on either side of NI62, and it gets into a cyclic state - once in a while by the magic of QM it overshoots and you get copper, or

Re: [Vo]:Could undetected nuclear isomers explain any LENR?

2011-11-05 Thread pagnucco
Probably, Robin, but the relatively recent discovery of the 65Fe isomer (which likely has been lurking in the universe for a long time) makes me wonder if other long-lived isomers have escaped attention, and written off as statistical errors in mass measurements. Coaxing 1 gram of 65Fe to ground

Re: [Vo]:Could undetected nuclear isomers explain any LENR?

2011-11-05 Thread mixent
In reply to pagnu...@htdconnect.com's message of Sat, 5 Nov 2011 23:35:00 -0400 (EDT): Hi, [snip] Probably, Robin, but the relatively recent discovery of the 65Fe isomer (which likely has been lurking in the universe for a long time) makes me wonder if other long-lived isomers have escaped

Re: [Vo]:Could undetected nuclear isomers explain any LENR?

2011-11-05 Thread pagnucco
I am not sure which, if any, nickel isotopes admit isomeric states. Perhaps, electrodes, container walls, or contaminants in nickel (or palladium) could be the source of some yet unidentified isomers. I am quite perplexed that isomeric-65Fe went undetected for so long. Perhaps others have also

[Vo]:Could undetected nuclear isomers explain any LENR?

2011-11-04 Thread pagnucco
Since nuclear isomers (i.e., metastable atoms with excited nuclei) can store energies far exceeding chemical energies, could any LENR results be due to undetected isomers decaying to nuclear ground state? Some are extremely long-lived, and some may still be undiscovered. (e.g., Discovery of a

Re: [Vo]:Could undetected nuclear isomers explain any LENR?

2011-11-04 Thread Danny Ross Lunsford
...@htdconnect.com pagnu...@htdconnect.com Subject: [Vo]:Could undetected nuclear isomers explain any LENR? To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Date: Friday, November 4, 2011, 7:36 PM Since nuclear isomers (i.e., metastable atoms with excited nuclei) can store energies far exceeding chemical energies, could any