Re: [Vo]:Dark Matter as a "sterile antineutron" and the LENR connection

2018-12-06 Thread Axil Axil
https://newatlas.com/dark-fluid-theory-matter-energy/57540/ Dark matter and dark energy may really be one "dark fluid" with negative mass A new theory suggests that the universe is filled with a dark fluid that has negative mass, which could explain both dark matter and dark energy This "Dark

Re: [Vo]:Dark Matter as a "sterile antineutron" and the LENR connection

2018-12-06 Thread Nigel Dyer
I've had a quick scan through the paper, and it looks very much at things at the large/galatic scale.  IMHO it is worth looking at whether this might link in with LENR, but that would require taking the ideas down to the opposite scale and working out how it fits in with QFT and the standard

Re: [Vo]:Dark Matter as a "sterile antineutron" and the LENR connection

2018-12-05 Thread ROGER ANDERTON
There is stillsquabbling over LIGO at the moment   "An illusion": Grave doubts over LIGO's'discovery' of gravitational waves Michael Brooks New Scientist Sat, 01 Dec 2018 12:00 UTC https://www.sott.net/article/399642-An-illusion-Grave-doubts-over-LIGOs-discovery-of-gravitational-waves    

Re: [Vo]:Dark Matter as a "sterile antineutron" and the LENR connection

2018-12-05 Thread CB Sites
Jones Beene is correct in that this should be falsifiable. I think LIGO could possibly detect this. Let's say a gravitational wave was moving across a void in the deep reaches of space where a negative mass value might be hiding. Wouldn't a gravitational wave be dampened if it was on the

Re: [Vo]:Dark Matter as a "sterile antineutron" and the LENR connection

2018-12-05 Thread CB Sites
Sorry; If you saw this previously, apparently I made a typo in the URL. It should be; https://arxiv.org/abs/1712.07962 On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 4:43 PM CB Sites wrote: > Wow. I just read a science brief on a new theory that explains > Dark-matter and Dark-energy in a very odd way. Ponder this

Re: [Vo]:Dark Matter as a "sterile antineutron" and the LENR connection

2018-12-05 Thread Jones Beene
A negative mass theory like this should be falsifiable in a straightforward way using an ultra-precision scale and ultra-high vacuum system to measure the very tiny decrease in weight of a vacuum chamber as it is being pumped. The whole system could be mounted on levered arms. The drop in

Re: [Vo]:Dark Matter as a "sterile antineutron" and the LENR connection

2018-12-05 Thread CB Sites
Oh. It's on Arxiv.org. https://arvix.org/abs/1712.07962 On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 4:43 PM CB Sites wrote: > Wow. I just read a science brief on a new theory that explains > Dark-matter and Dark-energy in a very odd way. Ponder this one for a > moment. Empty space has a negative mass. Not

Re: [Vo]:Dark Matter as a "sterile antineutron" and the LENR connection

2018-12-05 Thread CB Sites
Wow. I just read a science brief on a new theory that explains Dark-matter and Dark-energy in a very odd way. Ponder this one for a moment. Empty space has a negative mass. Not zero mass but something with a minus sign in front of it! This is a new model worked out by Dr. Jamie Farnes of the

Re: [Vo]:Dark Matter as a "sterile antineutron" and the LENR connection

2018-12-04 Thread CB Sites
Sometimes you stumble on to a story from a source you don't expect. Forbes had this write up on Erik Verlinde's theory(s) and I think it will give insight to others why Dark matter may simply be an emergent effect by the quantum occupation of space/time by matter. No hard details but a nice

Re: [Vo]:Dark Matter as a "sterile antineutron" and the LENR connection

2018-12-04 Thread Jones Beene
I like Erik Verlinde's theory and papers. Definitely worth a read. Some of his thinking is consistent with the "mirror matter" proposition, so long as the mystery particles are generally located in a parallel dimension, so that they interact with normal matter minimally no matter how they are

Re: [Vo]:Dark Matter as a "sterile antineutron" and the LENR connection

2018-12-03 Thread mixent
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Mon, 3 Dec 2018 16:54:02 -0500: Hi, [snip] >How do you know that gluons exist? Has one ever been isolated? Not that I know of. However for that matter I don't really believe in light neutrons either. :) > >On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 4:39 PM wrote: > >> In reply

Re: [Vo]:Dark Matter as a "sterile antineutron" and the LENR connection

2018-12-03 Thread CB Sites
Every story on dark matter simply leaves me confused and perplexed. The first question I would ask is what is the spin of dark matter. Is it a fermion or boson? If it's a fermion, it has to interact and if it interacts why is it nearly impossible to see the interaction. If it's a Boson,

Re: [Vo]:Dark Matter as a "sterile antineutron" and the LENR connection

2018-12-03 Thread Axil Axil
How do you know that gluons exist? Has one ever been isolated? On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 4:39 PM wrote: > In reply to bobcook39...@hotmail.com's message of Mon, 3 Dec 2018 > 14:12:32 > +: > Hi Bob, > > Just a guess, but IIRC most of the mass of Neutrons comprises gluons, so > perhaps > a

Re: [Vo]:Dark Matter as a "sterile antineutron" and the LENR connection

2018-12-03 Thread mixent
In reply to bobcook39...@hotmail.com's message of Mon, 3 Dec 2018 14:12:32 +: Hi, PS: Here's a thought: what if the gluons are really just the relativistic mass of fast moving quarks? In that case a light neutron would just have quarks that were moving more slowly. Regards, Robin van

Re: [Vo]:Dark Matter as a "sterile antineutron" and the LENR connection

2018-12-03 Thread mixent
In reply to bobcook39...@hotmail.com's message of Mon, 3 Dec 2018 14:12:32 +: Hi Bob, Just a guess, but IIRC most of the mass of Neutrons comprises gluons, so perhaps a light neutron would just contain lower energy gluons? (Reminiscent of Jones' theory from years back.) >Robin— > > >

Re: [Vo]:Dark Matter as a "sterile antineutron" and the LENR connection

2018-12-03 Thread Jones Beene
In case the previous suggestion wrt rubidium electrolysis rang a few bells - going all the way back to 1994 when Bush/Eagleton published  'Evidence for electrolytically induced transmutation and radioactivity correlated with excess heat in electrolytic cells with light water rubidium salt

Re: [Vo]:Dark Matter as a "sterile antineutron" and the LENR connection

2018-12-03 Thread Jones Beene
The $64 question, from the standpoint of explaining LENR in the context of dark matter - is this: what would be the primary mechanism for excess heat and how could one optimize for it (or prove the hypothesis) in a simple electrolysis cell ? The "mirror neutron," if it is shown to be dark

RE: [Vo]:Dark Matter as a "sterile antineutron" and the LENR connection

2018-12-03 Thread bobcook39...@hotmail.com
Robin— Regarding my recent comments on the stable of primary particles in the standard model, I had in mind that a light “mirror neutron” would necessarily contain light quarks. not the same as the primary quarks the are imagined per the standard theory. Is there another explanation for a

Re: [Vo]:Dark Matter as a "sterile antineutron" and the LENR connection

2018-12-02 Thread Jones Beene
Here is another collaboration page, looking for dark matter in the form of a "second type of neutron." https://neutronoscillationgrouputk.wordpress.com/2017/02/05/neutron-mirror-neutron-oscillation/ Instead of the antineutron, they focus on mirror-matter and the mirror-neutron. If this

Re: [Vo]:Dark Matter as a "sterile antineutron" and the LENR connection

2018-12-01 Thread mixent
PS - another more mundane explanation is that in common with all beta decays, occasionally (nearly) all the energy is carried away by the anti-neutrino, leaving the electron with so little that it remains combined with the proton as an ordinary ground state Hydrogen atom, thus evading detection in

Re: [Vo]:Dark Matter as a "sterile antineutron" and the LENR connection

2018-12-01 Thread mixent
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Sat, 1 Dec 2018 15:34:17 + (UTC): Hi, [snip] >This "second type of neutron" whether it is ultra low momentum or not, would >be largely indistinguishable from LENR dense hydrogen but with a variation in >lifetime. It would not be the exact UDH of Holmlid,

Re: [Vo]:Dark Matter as a "sterile antineutron" and the LENR connection

2018-12-01 Thread Jones Beene
Oops. should be 6 quarks and 6 antiquarks in the Standard Model - anyway, no apparent problem AFAIK From: Jones Beene At least one of the researchers suggests the dark matter particle is related to an antineutron. An antineutron is composed of 3 antiquarks. There are 6 quarks, 3 of

Re: [Vo]:Dark Matter as a "sterile antineutron" and the LENR connection

2018-12-01 Thread Jones Beene
At least one of the researchers suggests the dark matter particle is related to an antineutron. An antineutron is composed of 3 antiquarks. There are 6 quarks, 3 of which are antiquarks in the Standard Model, no? Where is the problem? From: "bobcook39...@hotmail.com"    Where did the

RE: [Vo]:Dark Matter as a "sterile antineutron" and the LENR connection

2018-12-01 Thread bobcook39...@hotmail.com
Jones— Where did the model of “antiquarks” come from; Is that your conjecture? The antiquark thesis would seem to suggest that the Standard Model may be getting somemore primary particles to add to its stable. A sterile antineutron may not be too sterile around regular neutrons. The idea of

[Vo]:Dark Matter as a "sterile antineutron" and the LENR connection

2018-12-01 Thread Jones Beene
A good case (but preliminary)is being made in several physics Labs around the World, involving the characterization of a dark matter particle which is both common and related to the neutron, but sterile and slightly lower in mass. In fact, it appears that about 1% of any neutron beam from any