On 4/23/07, Terry Blanton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Terry (wishing he had a detachable penis)
Hell no, you'd put it down somewhere and lose it.
PHILIP WINESTONE wrote:
Not only that, but Jeff didn't deny that global warming wasn't
happening (although that in itself is questionable - if we're
allowed to question the sacred GW Scriptures); he was simply saying
that the evidence (evidence, mind you) is that global warming has
happened
Paul Lowrance wrote:
Evidence For Human-caused Global Warming Is Now 'Unequivocal'
February 2, 2007
I agree, what we are discussing is the cause. I contend that we are
seeing the convergence of several factors, solar irradiance, volcanic
activity, and possibly a change in the aether, all of
After writing computer simulations for several decades now I have a good
understanding of such simulations. The computer will dominate science. :-)
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/01/07084302.htm
What's fascinating is recent simulations show the known amount of human caused
CO2
is
increasing.
Jeff
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From: Paul Lowrance [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 3:46 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [VO]:Global warning caused by humanity is NOW 'Unequivocal'
After writing computer simulations for several decades now I have a good
Jeff Fink wrote:
Mercury is too close to the sun
Indeed, and if the sun is radiating X% more radiation then Mercury should be
hotter. Are you suggesting Mercury is always in front or behind the Sun so we
can't measuring it's blackbody radiation??? I'm curious where you get such
Jeff, how sure are you that GW is nonsense?
Are you pretty sure?
Is there a 10% chance it's real? 5%? 1%? one in a million??
At what point do the odds become justification for polluting out planet
more?
On 4/24/07, Paul Lowrance [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jeff Fink wrote:
Mercury is too close
A new documentary, Green: The New Red, White, and Blue was just released on
April 23 2007. DTMS, Discovery times channel is broadcasting this documentary
right now. Listen to it and tell me man contributed CO2 is not the cause of
Global Warming! Even Arnold Schwarzenegger states it's
Oh, forgot to mention - Of course CO2 rising followed ocean temperature
changes (due to natural events) IN THE PAST. That is only to be expected.
Those who point to this as some sort of proof that CO2 has no effect on
global warming, and that the GW scientists have it back to front, are
The headline in my newspaper of Saturday Feb. 3, 2007 said, “GLOBAL WARNING-
If nothing is done to combat greenhouse gases, extreme weather could kill 1
million people by 2100…
I am greatly concerned about the “global warming hysteria” that is being
foisted upon the public. I recall a news
It is already far warmer that it has been for an extremely long time, not
500 years.
I can't be bothered reading the rest of your ignorant post but if you don't
realize that the weather is warming up your a fool/idiot.
That warming 500-1000 years ago is a blip compared to this.
On 4/22/07, Jeff
On 4/22/07, thomas malloy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jones Beene wrote:
Enjoy you(r) rapturous stay in the
NeoCon wing of the Matrix
Kokopelli rules ;-)
What does that mean?
The trickster rules:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kokopelli
Terry (wishing he had a detachable penis)
I don't see the logic in a lot of your words. You assume that because the Sun is
part of the cause that humanity has somehow done nothing. That's not true. What
you said is well known and is openly discussed amongst climate scientists,
including Dr. Brenda.
Sorry, I'll side with the mass
On 4/23/07, Kyle R. Mcallister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That warming 500-1000 years ago is a blip compared to this.
Numbers to support this please.
--Kyle
Watch An Inconvenient Truth, there is a chart that addresses this.
The warming 500 - 1000 years ago is a blip compared to what, exactly?
P.
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From: John Berry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2007 10:10:34 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Global Warning
On 4/23/07, Kyle R. Mcallister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
Jeff Fink wrote:
It means that 500 years ago it was warmer, and
that human activity had nothing to do with it! It is well known to some
historians that the period from 900 to 1100 AD was also warmer than today by
about three degrees, and human activity had nothing to do with that either!
I
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Global Warning
On 4/23/07, Kyle R. Mcallister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That warming 500-1000 years ago is a blip compared to this.
Numbers to support this please.
--Kyle
Watch An Inconvenient Truth, there is a chart that addresses this.
: Sunday, April 22, 2007 10:04:19 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Global Warning
- Original Message -
From: John Berry
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2007 8:01 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Global Warning
It is already far warmer that it has been for an extremely long time, not
500 years.
I
Evidence For Human-caused Global Warming Is Now 'Unequivocal'
February 2, 2007
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/02/070202085036.htm
Global effects:
http://www.greenandgoldenergy.com.au/images/EnergyUsage200Years.JPG
http://securingamerica.com/ccn/files/community/science_1.1.1.jpg
- Original Message -
From: John Berry
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2007 8:01 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Global Warning
It is already far warmer that it has been for an extremely long time, not
500 years.
I can't be bothered reading the rest of your ignorant post
Paul Lowrance wrote:
thomas malloy wrote:
One sided propaganda, she was too busy beating the drum on human caused
Well, it is difficult to ignore Dr. Brenda, PhD's credentials, and the
fact that she is and has worked in the field of climate science.
Furthermore Dr. Brenda said the mass
thomas malloy wrote:
Paul Lowrance wrote:
thomas malloy wrote:
One sided propaganda, she was too busy beating the drum on human caused
Well, it is difficult to ignore Dr. Brenda, PhD's credentials, and the
fact that she is and has worked in the field of climate science.
Furthermore Dr.
Howdy Vorts,
As the world turns, the rant goes on and the stomach turns. People are not
destroying the planet.. maybe themselves individually and in collective
groups.. but not the planet.. that's coming, but by design and not by human
decree or PHD.
Richard
One sided propaganda, she was
R.C.Macaulay wrote:
Howdy Vorts,
As the world turns, the rant goes on and the stomach turns. People are
not destroying the planet.. maybe themselves individually and in
collective groups.. but not the planet.. that's coming, but by design
and not by human decree or PHD.
Richard
One sided
Paul Lowrance wrote:
thomas malloy wrote:
Paul Lowrance wrote:
There are scientists who disagree with Dr. Brenda,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XttV2C6B8pU
No doubt, but Dr. Brenda said nearly all climate scientists now agree
with the recent overwhelming data that clearly indicates
- Original Message -
From: Paul Lowrance [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 2:05 AM
Subject: Re: [VO]:Global warning caused by humanity-- now factually based.
There are scientists who disagree with Dr. Brenda,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v
thomas malloy wrote:
Paul Lowrance wrote:
thomas malloy wrote:
Paul Lowrance wrote:
There are scientists who disagree with Dr. Brenda,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XttV2C6B8pU
No doubt, but Dr. Brenda said nearly all climate scientists now agree
with the recent overwhelming data
Kyle R. Mcallister wrote:
[snip
Should we try to cut emissions of bad gases? Sure, why not, but not at
the detriment of the basis of our society, that is, the working class.
Maybe anyone in an environmentalist organization should be given a
severe tax increase to support a changeover to
One warped comment to add into the bogosity mix:
People are not destroying the planet.. maybe
themselves
individually and in collective groups.. but not the
planet..
I agree with this part of Richard's summation, but he
may be viewing the situation in the context of a
narrow religious
attraction, centrifugal force and photon pressure, comments/criticisms
welcome on this.
Michel
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From: Paul Lowrance [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 5:11 PM
Subject: Re: [VO]:Global warning caused by humanity-- now factually
I think we should aim all the fire-hoses on earth at the sun, then say ready!
set! go! (The element of surprise is so important.).
P.
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From: Michel Jullian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 12:08:54 PM
Subject: Re: [VO]:Global
: Saturday, April 21, 2007 12:08:54 PM
Subject: Re: [VO]:Global warning caused by humanity-- now factually based.
Indeed Paul, whether you and Dr Brenda and the IPCC http://www.ipcc.ch/are
right is irrelevant. The real question is, can humanity remediate global
warming, and how, we should
Paul Lowrance wrote:
I'm surprised nobody at Vo picked up on climate scientist Brenda
Ekwurzel, PhD. guest on Coast To Coast AM show last Saturday --
One sided propaganda, she was too busy beating the drum on human caused
warming to talk about anything else. She ignored the issue of the
-Earth line a unit parasol area
would be most efficient?
Michel
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From: thomas malloy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 8:14 AM
Subject: Re: [VO]:Global warning caused by humanity-- now factually based.
Paul Lowrance wrote:
I'm
thomas malloy wrote:
One sided propaganda, she was too busy beating the drum on human caused
warming to talk about anything else. She ignored the issue of the Sun's
increased irradiance.
Actually I recall Dr. Brenda did indeed address this.
Also the observation that temperature
Michel Jullian wrote:
It seems to me that whatever the causes of GW, if we want a remedy we will have
to take care of it.
Jed mentioned orbiting parasols once, I then understood he was talking about Earth orbits so I
You could use either the Cook Drive or the E M Drive to hold the parasol
I'm surprised nobody at Vo picked up on climate scientist Brenda Ekwurzel, PhD.
guest on Coast To Coast AM show last Saturday --
http://www.coasttocoastam.com/shows/2007/04/14.html
Leading climate science researcher Brenda Ekwurzel, PhD. announced the just
recent overwhelming evidence from
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