In case anyone wants to support a good cause:
http://www.reefguardians.org
On Wednesday, July 8, 2015, ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com wrote:
Mark,
I understand and I agree with you. Nature thrives around a balance, any
chronic source of upset/pollution, be it chemical or electromagnetic,
Mark,
I understand and I agree with you. Nature thrives around a balance, any
chronic source of upset/pollution, be it chemical or electromagnetic, can
throw that out of balance. A little poison is good for you...
When I first started mapping wildlife disease two years ago, I mapped
chronic
Since I was the one who initiated this thread, I feel responsible to clear
things up… calm down and take a deep breath!
Dave and Stewart, you two have completely missed the point, and Dave, it is
clear that you have not read my original post, nor any of the references. Let
me also say that
Sent: Tue, Jul 7, 2015 8:12 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Possible cause for coral reefs dying...
VLF radio waves (3–30 kHz) can penetrate seawater to a depth of approximately
20 meters. Hence a submarine at shallow depth can use these frequencies.
Most of the radars pulse at 200-1000 Hz
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From: jojoiznar...@gmail.com
Date: Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 10:26 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Possible cause for coral reefs dying...
To: cheme...@gmail.com
Stewart, this is Jojo Jaro.
I have been following your posting on vortex regarding your hypothesis
that electricity is killing the corals
installation.
Dave
-Original Message-
From: ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, Jul 7, 2015 9:50 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Possible cause for coral reefs dying...
Low frequency pulse.
Also, we are not communicating with the marine
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To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
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Sent: Tue, Jul 7, 2015 8:12 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Possible cause for coral reefs dying...
VLF https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Very_low_frequency radio waves
(3–30 kHz
the dying and that is more likely than high frequency RF transmissions.
Dave
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From: James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, Jul 7, 2015 10:07 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Possible cause for coral reefs dying...
Thanks
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From: ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, Jul 7, 2015 9:50 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Possible cause for coral reefs dying...
Low frequency pulse.
Also, we are not communicating with the marine life and coral reef, the
evidence is mounting that 2
This is primarily meant for fellow Vort, ChemEng (Stewart), but some others
may have an interest.
Stewart, I think I may have a cause for your hypothesis re: a link between
our modern radar systems and the dying of coral reefs.
Seems that proteins in living systems have evolved such that
instead of variable statistics to settle these issues
properly.
Dave
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From: ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, Jul 7, 2015 1:53 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Possible cause for coral reefs dying...
Dave, the pulse train
-Original Message-
From: ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, Jul 7, 2015 1:53 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Possible cause for coral reefs dying...
Dave, the pulse train is a square wave, with the on amplitude approx
900' long or longer depending upon duty cycle
is a major one that is often
used to explain the dying and that is more likely than high frequency RF
transmissions.
Dave
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From: James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, Jul 7, 2015 10:07 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Possible cause
: Tue, Jul 7, 2015 9:50 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Possible cause for coral reefs dying...
Low frequency pulse.
Also, we are not communicating with the marine life and coral reef, the
evidence is mounting that 2 terrawatts of effective isotropic radiated
power (EIRP) in a local area scattered
is a major one that is often
used to explain the dying and that is more likely than high frequency RF
transmissions.
Dave
-Original Message-
From: James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, Jul 7, 2015 10:07 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Possible cause for coral
Sent: Tue, Jul 7, 2015 1:56 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Possible cause for coral reefs dying...
How many dead fish do we have to have and dead birds falling from the sky to
have before you sparkies understand your mistake?
http://darkmattersalot.com/2014/01/12/florida-2
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From: ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, Jul 7, 2015 2:00 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Possible cause for coral reefs dying...
No, I have concentrated on pulsed radars, which pulse at 0-1000 Hz,
considered very low frequencies.
Dave you
-Original Message-
From: ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, Jul 7, 2015 2:00 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Possible cause for coral reefs dying...
No, I have concentrated on pulsed radars, which pulse at 0-1000 Hz, considered
very low frequencies
-Original Message-
From: ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, Jul 7, 2015 1:56 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Possible cause for coral reefs dying...
How many dead fish do we have to have and dead birds falling from the
sky to have before you sparkies understand
in the ideal places. We need
real science instead of variable statistics to settle these issues properly.
Dave
-Original Message-
From: ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, Jul 7, 2015 1:53 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Possible cause for coral reefs
: [Vo]:Possible cause for coral reefs dying...
How many dead fish do we have to have and dead birds falling from the
sky to have before you sparkies understand your mistake?
http://darkmattersalot.com/2014/01/12/florida-2/
On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 1:48 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com
high frequency RF
transmissions.
Dave
-Original Message-
From: James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, Jul 7, 2015 10:07 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Possible cause for coral reefs dying...
Thanks for the numbers.
This should be relatively
Sent: Tue, Jul 7, 2015 1:53 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Possible cause for coral reefs dying...
Dave, the pulse train is a square wave, with the on amplitude approx
900' long or longer depending upon duty cycle, bouncing between
clouds/planes and the suface of the ocean
Just one weather radar has
, but it was not radiated by the transmitter.
Dave
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From: ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, Jul 7, 2015 2:22 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Possible cause for coral reefs dying...
David,
Of course the low frequency
Any non-linearity in a medium like salt water will cause baseband currents.
From: David Roberson [mailto:dlrober...@aol.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2015 2:45 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Possible cause for coral reefs dying...
You are kidding right?
Any signal that shows
vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, Jul 7, 2015 2:40 pm
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David, all doppler weather, FAA, military radars send pulse trains at 200-1000
Hz. Just google doppler radar, they are ALL pulsed signals. The carrier
frequency (while
High frequency radio waves do not propagate under water.
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From: Hoyt A. Stearns Jr. hoyt-stea...@cox.net
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, Jul 7, 2015 5:50 pm
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Possible cause for coral reefs dying...
Any non-linearity in a medium like
( Experimenter effect ).
*From:* James Bowery [mailto:jabow...@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Tuesday, July 7, 2015 7:07 AM
*To:* vortex-l
*Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Possible cause for coral reefs dying...
Thanks for the numbers.
This should be relatively straight forward to test:
Set up two salt water
: Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 10:26 AM
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To: cheme...@gmail.com
Stewart, this is Jojo Jaro.
I have been following your posting on vortex regarding your hypothesis that
electricity is killing the corals. I believe you are wrong on that and you
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, Jul 7, 2015 2:43 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Possible cause for coral reefs dying...
Last time I argued with you about this you told me you got shocked by an RF
antenna
You proved my point.
I loved radio, but I like Pandora better
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Sent: Tue, Jul 7, 2015 5:50 pm
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Possible cause for coral reefs dying...
Any non-linearity in a medium like salt water will cause baseband
currents.
*From:* David Roberson [mailto:dlrober...@aol.com
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-Original Message-
From: ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, Jul 7, 2015 2:43 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Possible cause for coral reefs dying...
Last time I argued with you about this you told me you got shocked by an RF
[mailto:dlrober...@aol.com]
*Sent:* Tuesday, July 7, 2015 2:45 PM
*To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
*Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Possible cause for coral reefs dying...
You are kidding right?
Any signal that shows up is merely being translated in frequency from its
original location down to the baseband. The only
, Jul 7, 2015 5:50 pm
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Possible cause for coral reefs dying...
Any non-linearity in a medium like salt water will cause baseband
currents.
*From:* David Roberson [mailto:dlrober...@aol.com]
*Sent:* Tuesday, July 7, 2015 2:45 PM
*To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
*Subject:* Re: [Vo
pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Possible cause for coral reefs dying...
Right, and salt water flowing through a strong pulsing EM field can induce
electrical currents.
On Tuesday, July 7, 2015, Hoyt A. Stearns Jr. hoyt-stea...@cox.net wrote:
Any non-linearity in a medium like salt water
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*Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Possible cause for coral reefs dying...
You are kidding right?
Any signal that shows up
as their repetition rate determines the levels of those
important sidebands.
Dave
-Original Message-
From: ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, Jul 7, 2015 3:07 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Possible cause for coral reefs dying...
OK, this is how the 200
A. Stearns Jr. hoyt-stea...@cox.net
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, Jul 7, 2015 5:50 pm
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Possible cause for coral reefs dying...
Any non-linearity in a medium like salt water will cause baseband currents.
From: David Roberson [mailto:dlrober...@aol.com
-Original Message-
From: ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, Jul 7, 2015 7:08 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Possible cause for coral reefs dying...
What about low flying aircraft overhead reflecting a strong signal back to
ground?
What about ducting events
Except low pulsed frequencies
On Tuesday, July 7, 2015, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 1:42 AM, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net
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This is primarily meant for fellow Vort, ChemEng (Stewart), but
On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 1:42 AM, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net
wrote:
This is primarily meant for fellow Vort, ChemEng (Stewart), but some
others may have an interest…
Stewart, I think I may have a cause for your hypothesis re: a link between
our modern radar systems and the dying
VLF https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Very_low_frequency radio waves (3–30
kHz https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hertz) can penetrate seawater to a
depth of approximately 20 meters. Hence a submarine at shallow depth can
use these frequencies.
Most of the radars pulse at 200-1000 Hz.
Most of the
Mark,
Thanks for the info, I will pass it on. I read the posts on Vortex
everyday and appreciate the uninhibited creative technical
expulsion that occurs. I am involved in a couple of research efforts
now in addition to my day job as a chemical/environmental engineer
consultant.
One study
Low pulsed frequency is a contradiction in terms.
On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 7:01 AM, ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com wrote:
Except low pulsed frequencies
On Tuesday, July 7, 2015, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 1:42 AM, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net
Thanks for the numbers.
This should be relatively straight forward to test:
Set up two salt water aquariums supporting comparable coral populations.
Run them for a year or so to see they are stable. Then subject one of them
to low frequency EM radiation.
PS: What I mean contraction in terms
Low frequency pulse.
Also, we are not communicating with the marine life and coral reef, the
evidence is mounting that 2 terrawatts of effective isotropic radiated
power (EIRP) in a local area scattered by the overhead atmosphere is mildly
shocking the marine life through electromagnetic
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).
From: James Bowery [mailto:jabow...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2015 7:07 AM
To: vortex-l
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Possible cause for coral reefs dying...
Thanks for the numbers.
This should
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