Re: [Vo]:Re: Polished: Re: Special Relativity (SR) .vs Aether

2023-11-10 Thread ROGER ANDERTON
-- From: "Jonathan Berry" To: vortex-l@eskimo.com; evg...@groups.io; aethericscien...@groups.io Sent: Friday, 10 Nov, 23 At 02:20 Subject: [Vo]:Re: Polished: Re: Special Relativity (SR) .vs Aether A few updates... First because the Michelson Morley claim seemed plausible but

Re: [Vo]:Re: Polished: Re: Special Relativity (SR) .vs Aether

2023-11-09 Thread CB Sites
It's always interesting to question what is considered our standard point of view even when it works so well. Special Relativity is common sense in my opinion and is why I would never give it up. However, what always bugged me was time and using it as a 4th dimension. One of the concepts of

[Vo]:Re: Polished: Re: Special Relativity (SR) .vs Aether

2023-11-09 Thread Jonathan Berry
A few updates... First because the Michelson Morley claim seemed plausible but not totally conclusive, I wasn't doing the math myself and math isn't my thing so I farmed that out to AI's that kept on having different ideas so to be sure I had to really drill down and figure out the best most pure

[Vo]:Re: Antigravity with a ring of capacitors

2023-09-21 Thread Vibrator !
The ARV story is chaff; misdirection to fill the void with something semi-plausible, at least to some degree of consistency, yet whilst only providing bumsteer. The UFO equivalent of red mercury. Visitors' craft are obviously surrounded by some kind of glowing orb phenomenon, commonly assumed to

[Vo]:Re: Antigravity with a ring of capacitors

2023-09-06 Thread Jonathan Berry
As I was eating some soup (on day 5 of the fasting mimicking diet) I wondered why I didn't try putting a pyramid in a box?! I took a Pyramid I made from A4 Paper where I printed a Template for a Pyramid of my own design, this design uses an effect I discovered and then found another researcher

[Vo]:Re: Antigravity with a ring of capacitors

2023-09-06 Thread Jonathan Berry
BTW, just curious about things with a high dielectric constant as these have been correlated with both Free Energy (a researcher with a coil around a Barium Titanate coil inputting a special frequency got a blue glow and free energy out, yes, Barium again pops up). But also I recall reading about

[Vo]:Re: The message chain with an happy ending

2023-07-02 Thread Stefan Israelsson Tampe
It's part of the blog, computers tab, I see guile scheme as an art and have a few suggestions of great improvements for it. But you have to demand those features if you like it. And if you do not see we have some serious issues in the world, just ignore it as much as you like. Enjoy your sleep...

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:​​Experiment Casts ​​Doubt on the Leading Theory of the Nucleus

2023-06-13 Thread Jürg Wyttenbach
The strong force is not a constant. It is proportional to the parallel EM flux. The increase from proton --> 4-He is a complex quaternion Logarithmic factor. It can be exactly given by the SO(4) physics model. The standard model simply is garbage invented by people that miss the understanding

RE: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:‘Alien Calculus’ Could Save Particle Physics From Infinities | Quanta Magazine--tunneling and other entangled system phenonma--

2023-04-24 Thread bobcook39...@hotmail.com
:35 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com<mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com> Subject: RE: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:‘Alien Calculus’ Could Save Particle Physics From Infinities | Quanta Magazine--tunneling and other entangled system phenonma-- Jurg apply points out that tunneling is a common event that happens within entan

RE: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:‘Alien Calculus’ Could Save Particle Physics From Infinities | Quanta Magazine--tunneling and other entangled system phenonma--

2023-04-18 Thread bobcook39...@hotmail.com
From: Jürg Wyttenbach<mailto:ju...@datamart.ch> Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2023 2:01 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com<mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com> Subject: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:‘Alien Calculus’ Could Save Particle Physics From Infinities | Quanta Magazine Tunnelling is a fancy effect that occurs when

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:‘Alien Calculus’ Could Save Particle Physics From Infinities | Quanta Magazine

2023-04-11 Thread Jürg Wyttenbach
Tunnelling is a fancy effect that occurs when you neglect the magnetic interaction. Obviously and even worse Dirac and similar equations neglect the main acting part of particle physics - EM resonance. So they will go on for ever publishing fringe/fancy ideas (“Resurgence is very

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Developers Are Connecting Multiple AI Agents to Make More ‘Autonomous’ AI

2023-04-08 Thread Terry Blanton
Wrong, but interesting, URL https://www.vice.com/en/article/epvdme/developers-are-connecting-multiple-ai-agents-to-make-more-autonomous-ai On Sat, Apr 8, 2023 at 11:03 AM Terry Blanton wrote: > https://www.miamiherald.com/news/state/florida/article274029875.html >

[Vo]:RE AI

2023-04-02 Thread Ron Wormus
An interesting take on AI for $1 at Amazon: "Smart Until It's Dumb: Why artificial intelligence keeps making epic mistakes (and why, the AI bubble is about to burst)" Author: Emmanuel Maggiori, PhD, is a 10-year AI industry insider, specialized in machine learning and scientific computing. He

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:​The Big Bang and the JWST

2022-08-25 Thread Jürg Wyttenbach
Physics has no clue of the photon. So you are free to speculate in any direction. Currently we use the envelope function to describe a traveling photon. Of course this function contradicts basic Maxwell equations as E/B are never symmetric. Solar photon emission produces a pressure that

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:​The Big Bang and the JWST

2022-08-25 Thread H LV
The original tired light hypothesis was rejected as an explanation of the hubble red shift relation because it predicted more distant galaxies would appear fuzzier then we observe. The predicted the fuzziness was a consequence of scattering causing the red shift. However, perhaps a new version of

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:​The Big Bang and the JWST

2022-08-25 Thread Jürg Wyttenbach
Cosmology is the gossip kitchen table for sidelined physicists Enjoy the nice pictures of galaxies but do not believe any version II,III etc. of bibles genesis like big bang. Most fake facts about black holes have been debunked as nonsense simply because real physics cannot work with

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:​The Big Bang and the JWST

2022-08-25 Thread H LV
Eric Lerner argues the "unexpected" data from the JWST is expected in an non-expanding universe. Of course if the universe is not expanding he also says explaining the hubble redshift relation would require some new physics. Harry On Wed, Aug 24, 2022 at 7:32 PM Jones Beene wrote: > As Lerner

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]: ​small hydrogen

2022-05-02 Thread Andrew Meulenberg
Jurg, You state "In SOP we show that the electron is a resonance of the proton." Since I believe that the proton is composed of relativistic leptons and leptons of EM fields (expressed as photons?), you have presented something that will take me time to examine. I hope to do so - eventually.

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]: ​small hydrogen

2022-04-29 Thread Jürg Wyttenbach
Andrew Just one thing: I assume that you mean the atom (including the bound electron) is neutral. If you mean that the bound electron (in its interaction with the nuclear Coulomb field) is uncharged EM field only, then this would be one of our incompatible assumptions. However, I am

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]: ​small hydrogen

2022-04-28 Thread Andrew Meulenberg
On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 3:15 PM Jürg Wyttenbach wrote: > Andrew, > > I started to dig deeper the last few months and it became clear that most > of the classic physics approaches are Kindergarten level physics based on > wrong understanding of basic physics rules. > On 25.04.2022 17:53, Andrew

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]: ​small hydrogen

2022-04-28 Thread H LV
Jones, I looked quickly at the patent by Haisch and Moddel but could not find anything about cooling. However, the authors of this paper, ttps://arxiv.org/abs/0910.5893 experimentally investigated the claims of Haisch and Moddel in section 2.3.2. They tried to find alternative explanations for the

Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]: ?small hydrogen

2022-04-25 Thread Jürg Wyttenbach
Photons are the universal = most basic form of energy. With photons you can transport energy over any distance. So here the equivalence relation E = mc^2 is obvious. Same for the Pointing power vector for a radiation field. But if you write E = mc^2 and e.g. m is 4-He then the equation simply

Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]: ?small hydrogen

2022-04-25 Thread Robin
In reply to Jürg Wyttenbach's message of Mon, 25 Apr 2022 22:17:01 +0200: Hi, [snip] >Classic misunderstanding ... the bomb energy comes from E=dmc^2 . > > >J.W. That was assumed anyway. I.e. the change in mass is where the energy comes from. Are you saying that E=mc^2 is not the total energy of

Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]: ?small hydrogen

2022-04-25 Thread H LV
I think I have posted this before, but Einstein was also able to derive E=mc^2 without recourse to his theory of special relativity. Max Born presented this alternate derivation in his book Einstein's Theory of Relativity. Here is the proof:

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]: ​small hydrogen

2022-04-25 Thread H LV
I was thinking about LASERS (Light amplification by Stimulated Emission of Radiation) and it occurred to me that the notion of cooling radiation is already present in quantum theory, but it is disguised as "stimulated emission" in order to respect the mid 19th century doctrine that cooling

Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]: ?small hydrogen

2022-04-25 Thread Jürg Wyttenbach
Classic misunderstanding ... the bomb energy comes from E=dmc^2 . J.W. On 25.04.2022 21:23, Robin wrote: In reply to Jürg Wyttenbach's message of Mon, 25 Apr 2022 16:25:49 +0200: Hi Jürg, If E=mc^2 is wrong, then perhaps you should write the major nuclear powers, and explain to them why

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]: ​small hydrogen

2022-04-25 Thread Jürg Wyttenbach
Andrew, I started to dig deeper the last few months and it became clear that most of the classic physics approaches are Kindergarten level physics based on wrong understanding of basic physics rules. On 25.04.2022 17:53, Andrew Meulenberg wrote: Jurg, Thank you for the comments. It helps

Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]: ?small hydrogen

2022-04-25 Thread Robin
In reply to Jürg Wyttenbach's message of Mon, 25 Apr 2022 16:25:49 +0200: Hi Jürg, If E=mc^2 is wrong, then perhaps you should write the major nuclear powers, and explain to them why their bombs don't work. ;) >Andrew, > > >I could give you a very long list. First problem: The Dirac equation

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]: ​small hydrogen

2022-04-25 Thread Andrew Meulenberg
Jurg, Thank you for the comments. It helps us to understand the reasons behind rejection of the concept of deep-orbit electrons. Comments below On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 9:25 AM Jürg Wyttenbach wrote: > Andrew, > > I could give you a very long list. First problem: *The Dirac equation > itself

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]: ​small hydrogen

2022-04-25 Thread Jürg Wyttenbach
Andrew, I could give you a very long list. First problem: The Dirac equation itself is only working for fields and never for mass. The inclusion of the relativistic mass simply is an error made by a mathematician with no clue of physics. The Einstein equation (E=mc^2) has been guessed 

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]: ​small hydrogen

2022-04-25 Thread Andrew Meulenberg
Jurg, I would be interested in what physical laws you think are violated by the deep-orbit electrons. Without the Dirac equation's "anomalous orbit" results, I don't think that we would have looked for the relativistic effects that make the deep orbits (and nuclear forces?) possible. Andrew _ _

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]: ​small hydrogen

2022-04-23 Thread Jürg Wyttenbach
I just want to remind some folks here that H*-H*, the only existing from of dense hydrogen (besides D*-D*) has been measured by multiple methods by Randal Mills, now some 3 years ago. Also Holmlid tried to measure the H*H* bond energy but he did work with clusters of H* that suffer from

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Re: [Vo]:​small hydrogen

2022-04-23 Thread Jeff Driscoll
If the 2.8328 fermi mentioned in the paper is multiplied by the inverse of alpha, the fine structure constant (alpha =1/137.035999), then you get the radius of Randell Mills' TSO (Transition State Orbitsphere) https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0370269319303624 the radius of

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:​small hydrogen

2022-04-23 Thread H LV
On Sat, Apr 23, 2022 at 11:26 AM Jones Beene wrote: > HLV wrote: > > A simple argument that small hydrogen may exist > > Physics Letters B Volume 794, 10 July 2019, Pages 130-134 > > https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0370269319303624 > > > Thanks for posting this. One curious

[Vo]:Re: More UFO spottted

2021-04-27 Thread Frank Znidarsic
https://nypost.com/2021/04/12/us-navy-ships-capture-video-of-pyramid-shaped-ufos-overhead/ Frank

Re: [Vo]:Re: Unexplained Magnetic Phenomenon EXPLAINED

2021-03-13 Thread Terry Blanton
t; > > > > ___ > > > > *From: *Robin > *Sent: *Tuesday, March 9, 2021 3:17 PM > *To: *vortex-l@eskimo.com > *Subject: *Re: [Vo]:Re: Unexplained Magnetic Phenomenon EXPLAINED > > > > In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Tue, 9 Mar 202

RE: [Vo]:Re: Unexplained Magnetic Phenomenon EXPLAINED

2021-03-13 Thread bobcook39...@hotmail.com
___ From: Robin<mailto:mixent...@aussiebroadband.com.au> Sent: Tuesday, March 9, 2021 3:17 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com<mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: Unexplained Magnetic Phenomenon EXPLAINED In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Tue, 9 Mar 2021 16:43:23 -0500:

Re: [Vo]:Re: Unexplained Magnetic Phenomenon EXPLAINED

2021-03-09 Thread Robin
In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Tue, 9 Mar 2021 16:43:23 -0500: Hi, It just occurred to me that this sounds like it may the mechanism behind the John Searle flying saucer, since that also depends on rotating magnets? (See e.g. https://manmade-ufos.com/john-searl). >Hamdi's article has

[Vo]:Re: Unexplained Magnetic Phenomenon EXPLAINED

2021-03-09 Thread Terry Blanton
Hamdi's article has been published: https://www.mdpi.com/2073-8994/13/3/442 On Thu, Sep 3, 2020 at 10:52 AM Terry Blanton wrote: > Five years ago, a Hamdi Ucar showed Vortex a magnetic phenomenon he > stumbled across. It was something similar to Levitron except that it > involved the ability

[Vo]:Re: Fresh MIlk Album

2021-02-22 Thread Frank Znidarsic
Coming along.  I now use synthetic reads and they don't squeak so much.I need a gear driven guitar type apparatus to hold the viola and violin in tune.  Sprinkling rosin powder on the pegs does not do it for me.Perhaps I will design one. First song:  Do you really want to tell me that you

[Vo]:Re: CMNS: Physics Today does not allow references to peer-reviewed cold fusion literature

2021-02-17 Thread Jed Rothwell
There is no getting through to people like the editors at Physics Today. I expect that even if everyone here were to write to them, they would reject every message. They think of themselves as fair, objective and open minded. Perhaps they are open minded about some subjects, but not cold fusion.

[Vo]:Re: Are you guys aware of the work of Bob Greenyer in the Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project?

2021-01-05 Thread Jonathan Berry
More: http://www.quantumheat.org/ http://remoteview.substack.com/ They have quite a lot of compelling content of Cold Fusion and Engineering the Vacuum (EVO's, Exotic Vacuum Objects, Ken Shoulders etc). Really pulled it all together. On Tue, 5 Jan 2021 at 23:52, Jonathan Berry wrote: >

Re: [Vo]:Re: merry Christmas

2020-12-23 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wrote: > The ingredients are listed here. I think they are liquid at room > temperature, not powder: > The lipid nanoparticles are similar to butter, according to one expert. I think butter is considered a solid at room temperature. See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eK0C5tFHze8=emb_logo

Re: [Vo]:Re: merry Christmas

2020-12-22 Thread Jed Rothwell
JonesBeene wrote: > It is not clear if this category (~3 percent) is anything more than a > passing phenomenon > Other sources say the problems went away in one day or less. There have been no reports of longer-term problems. Other vaccines have stronger, more common effects, yet they are

Re: [Vo]:Re: merry Christmas

2020-12-22 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jürg Wyttenbach wrote: > Look at CDC presentation slide 6** column explained below: > > > https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/acip/meetings/downloads/slides-2020-12/slides-12-19/05-COVID-CLARK.pdf > > 3% were no longer able to work afterwards... > Only for one day. Such reactions are common with many

RE: [Vo]:Re: merry Christmas

2020-12-22 Thread JonesBeene
Jürg “no longer able to work” could be misleading - since it implies a long term problem. It is not clear if this category (~3 percent) is anything more than a passing phenomenon – except for the few cases with extreme allergic reaction, of course. Recipients should be screened for history

Re: [Vo]:Re: merry Christmas

2020-12-22 Thread Jürg Wyttenbach
Not so happy Christmas for some... Pfizer vaccine seems to be high risk! Look at CDC presentation slide 6** column explained below: https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/acip/meetings/downloads/slides-2020-12/slides-12-19/05-COVID-CLARK.pdf 3% were no longer able to work afterwards... Effectively 

[Vo]:Re: merry Christmas

2020-12-21 Thread Frank Znidarsic
opps wrong URL correct below https://www.angelfire.com/scifi2/zpt/temp/ViolinXmass.mp4

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:All of modern physics wrong – built on misunderstanding of relativity

2020-11-21 Thread Jürg Wyttenbach
If you like to follow a serious talk/discussion about general relativity I do recommend ::: https://www.researchgate.net/post/Is_the_non-locality_of_the_gravitational_energy_a_serious_problem_for_General_Relativity Needs some deep math knowledge And of course GR is incomplete as the

[Vo]:Re: Out of 1920

2020-09-14 Thread Frank Znidarsic
Here is the show. https://www.theothersideofmidnight.com/guest/frank-znidarsic/ I am not doing shows and lectures anymore.  I sort of gave up. Frank Z

[Vo]:Re: Out of 1920

2020-09-14 Thread Frank Znidarsic
Thank you Terry.  I was on the Dark Side of the Moon a few years ago.  The show went well. An anatomy of an ancient headphone linked below. http://www.angelfire.com/scifi2/zpt/temp/Inside.mov Frank Z

Re: [Vo]:Re: check out my product review

2020-09-01 Thread Frank Znidarsic
 That is a pretty good price but modules have fallen in popularity.  In fact, music keyboards in general have fallen off. Thanks Terry.  I know everything is going to a computer or phone now.  Camcorder, GPS, cammera are now all on a phone. Now its hit musical keyboards.  You just purchase a

[Vo]:Re: check out my product review

2020-09-01 Thread Frank Znidarsic
When I was in elementary school in the late 1950 there was this girl Elaine who played a Hammond organ.  It was an impressive thing with two key boards, tone peddles, and two sound volume peddles.  It had mechanical sound clog wheels and made a wising sound as it was turned on.  A friend of

[Vo]:Re: check out my product review

2020-09-01 Thread Frank Znidarsic
A bit of history with the product review.  The Wurtlizer is the oldest device  CIRCA 1970.  It is electromechanical and has reeds that vibrate.  Coils pick up the vibrations and send them to an amplifier.  I added a Stomp Box to extends the range of sounds.  There were also more expensive

Re: [Vo]:Re: Lattice Confinement Fusion

2020-08-19 Thread Robin
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Wed, 19 Aug 2020 20:04:34 + (UTC): Hi Jones, [snip] > Is the correct Rydberg value 27.2 instead of 22.7 ? >...or was that a typo ? Not a typo, just a "senior moment" on my part. (Same numbers, wrong order.) It should of course be 27.2 and Erbium is not a

Re: [Vo]:Re: Lattice Confinement Fusion

2020-08-19 Thread Jones Beene
Is the correct Rydberg value 27.2 instead of 22.7 ? ...or was that a typo ? Robin wrote: >The elements is rare, costly and does not appear in the list of Mills’ >catalysts (but almost any element can be contorted to be catalytic,, as Mills >has repeatedly shown). The 3rd ionization

Re: [Vo]:Re: Lattice Confinement Fusion

2020-08-19 Thread Robin
In reply to JonesBeene's message of Wed, 19 Aug 2020 11:49:32 -0700: Hi, [snip] >The elements is rare, costly and does not appear in the list of Mills’ >catalysts (but almost any element can be contorted to be catalytic,, as Mills >has repeatedly shown). The 3rd ionization energy of Er is

RE: [Vo]:Re: Lattice Confinement Fusion

2020-08-19 Thread JonesBeene
From: CB Sites Any ideas as to why they chose Erbium for the host metal?  I wondered about this too. The elements is rare, costly and does not appear in the list of Mills’ catalysts (but almost any element can be contorted to be catalytic,, as Mills has repeatedly shown). The one

Re: [Vo]:Re: Lattice Confinement Fusion

2020-08-19 Thread Terry Blanton
On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 12:39 PM CB Sites wrote: > Any ideas as to why they chose Erbium for the host metal? > I can think of one reason: Palladium 2,197.00 USD per Troy Ounce Platinum962.50 USD per Troy Ounce Erbium $650 per kilogram!

Re: [Vo]:Re: Lattice Confinement Fusion

2020-08-19 Thread CB Sites
Any ideas as to why they chose Erbium for the host metal? Seems like a pretty straight forward idea. I do wonder how quickly the host metal gets consumed. On Sun, Aug 16, 2020, 11:06 PM Terry Blanton wrote: > Direct link to quote: > >

[Vo]:Re: Lattice Confinement Fusion

2020-08-16 Thread Terry Blanton
Direct link to quote: https://www1.grc.nasa.gov/space/science/lattice-confinement-fusion/ On Sun, Aug 16, 2020 at 11:04 PM Terry Blanton wrote: > "NASA Detects Lattice Confinement Fusion > > A team of NASA researchers seeking a new energy source for deep-space > exploration missions, recently

[Vo]:Re: Jed's predictions

2020-07-01 Thread Frank Znidarsic
Here it is. https://csnews.com/three-square-market-sets-out-create-chain-100-self-pay-convenience-stores -Original Message- From: Frank Znidarsic To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, Jul 1, 2020 11:50 am Subject: Jed's predictions I believe that Jed missed the mark with his optimistic

Re: [Vo]:Re: Jed's predictions

2020-07-01 Thread Jürg Wyttenbach
Self pay is up and running here in Switzerland since years. If you like to do free work without getting any payback then you are welcome! Looks like the USA has lost contact with the rest of the world. Especially after Trump today  bought all Remsdesivir - a crappy untested medicament that

Re: [Vo]:Re: magnetism heat and dimensions--

2020-06-28 Thread Jürg Wyttenbach
On 28.06.2020 01:50, Che wrote: Is it your claim that mass is a function of the inertia of spinning energy -- here, in some toroidal form..? Yes exactly that is what SO(4) physics shows with the highest possible precision. I was referring to the mathematical analysis of bulk matter rather

Re: [Vo]:Re: magnetism heat and dimensions--

2020-06-27 Thread H LV
Engineers and applied physicists never stopped using the concept of an infinitesimal so they should be happy to know that it isn't bad mathematics after all. Harry On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 6:18 PM Jürg Wyttenbach wrote: > Particle physics has originally been based on the rigid mass operator.

Re: [Vo]:Re: magnetism heat and dimensions--

2020-06-27 Thread H LV
I was referring to the mathematical analysis of bulk matter rather than any sort of underlying particle theory of matter. If matter is composed of point particles separated by some distance, then each point particle could have a finite mass connected to it. Harry On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 7:00

Re: [Vo]:Re: magnetism heat and dimensions--

2020-06-27 Thread Che
On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 6:18 PM Jürg Wyttenbach wrote: > Particle physics has originally been based on the rigid mass operator. > Unkluckily only a few physicists understand master level rotating mass > mechanics as this is a field used/covered by mechanical engineering. > > Why physics did use

Re: [Vo]:Re: magnetism heat and dimensions--

2020-06-27 Thread ROGER ANDERTON
point-particle theory is Boscovich's theory and educators don't teach it any more to physics students; only a few physicists know about it because now an obscure subject On Saturday, 27 June 2020, 23:18:35 BST, Jürg Wyttenbach wrote: Particle physics has originally been based on

Re: [Vo]:Re: magnetism heat and dimensions--

2020-06-27 Thread Jürg Wyttenbach
Particle physics has originally been based on the rigid mass operator. Unkluckily only a few physicists understand master level rotating mass mechanics as this is a field used/covered by mechanical engineering. Why physics did use the fringe Virial approach (square integrable functions..) is

Re: [Vo]:Re: magnetism heat and dimensions--

2020-06-27 Thread H LV
I am not sure if this is related but I always had a problem with the concept of a point mass or a point charge, since mathematically that would imply infinite mass density or charge density or alternatively zero mass and zero charge. However these conundrums are resolved mathematically by moving

[Vo]:Re: magnetism heat and dimensions--

2020-06-26 Thread Jürg Wyttenbach
The fantasy of the old SM guard always seemed to be limitless... SO(4) physics exactly explains how the claimed force "gravity" is generated and mediated between hadronic masses. Since about 1 year there is game over for SM. No more cheating with point particles that do not behave as points

[Vo]:Re: [teslafy] Comparisons of time distortion by frequency drift on neon discharges

2020-05-11 Thread Harvey Norris
To end this lengthy discourse with a second reply; I shall shorten this considerably, although many investigations have now been done to formulate a more comprehensive solution for certain effects being noted in the loosely coupled resonant transfer of amperage above the resistive ratio. Brian

[Vo]:Re: [teslafy] Comparisons of time distortion by frequency drift on neon discharges

2020-05-08 Thread Harvey Norris
 Twin Versions of RealityBeing somewhat ahead of the "common joe" in making these observations, I should first say that this is not my first rodeo. And comparisons to the former version of reality to the present one now present itself. Now if two measurements of reality differ in results, we

Re: [Vo]:Re: CONCEPTS OF TIME--

2020-04-24 Thread Vibrator !
Making no assumptions as to the existence or nature of time and space, we can reduce their defining properties to more fundamental propositions: • there are information processors (us) • thus there is, implicitly, 'information', the actual substance and format of which is determined by our

Re: [Vo]:Re: CONCEPTS OF TIME--IMPLICATIONS FOR SO(4) PHYSICS--

2020-04-14 Thread mixent
In reply to Jürg Wyttenbach's message of Tue, 14 Apr 2020 13:12:28 +0200: Hi, [snip] >Our live is covered/maintained by faint fluctuations on top of highly >stable matter that does not feel time at all. I think supernovas would imply otherwise. I think what you are trying to say is that

Re: [Vo]:Re: CONCEPTS OF TIME--IMPLICATIONS FOR SO(4) PHYSICS--

2020-04-14 Thread Jürg Wyttenbach
Our live is covered/maintained by faint fluctuations on top of highly stable matter that does not feel time at all. Of course these small fluctations are highly dependent on time but this does not imply that time exist for the universe! It's just us that want to believe that there is time for

Re: [Vo]:Re: CONCEPTS OF TIME--IMPLICATIONS FOR SO(4) PHYSICS--

2020-04-13 Thread mixent
In reply to Jürg Wyttenbach's message of Tue, 14 Apr 2020 01:18:59 +0200: Hi, [snip] >Te best atomic clocks are sensitive to 10cm difference in altitude. > >But there is one open point: Is only the Rb/Cs crystal oscillating a bit >slower/faster or is the electronics measuring slower/faster - or

Re: [Vo]:Re: CONCEPTS OF TIME--IMPLICATIONS FOR SO(4) PHYSICS--

2020-04-13 Thread Jürg Wyttenbach
vortex-l@eskimo.com> *Subject: *Re: [Vo]:Re: CONCEPTS OF TIME-- On Sat, Apr 11, 2020 at 5:14 PM mailto:mix...@bigpond.com>> wrote: Note that our perception of the flow of time and even our measurement of it is based on processes which may vary in speed. IOW

Re: [Vo]:Re: CONCEPTS OF TIME--IMPLICATIONS FOR SO(4) PHYSICS--

2020-04-13 Thread H LV
----- > > *From: *H LV > *Sent: *Sunday, April 12, 2020 6:32 PM > *To: *vortex-l@eskimo.com > *Subject: *Re: [Vo]:Re: CONCEPTS OF TIME-- > > > > > > > > On Sat, Apr 11, 2020 at 5:14 PM wrote: > > > > Note that o

RE: [Vo]:Re: CONCEPTS OF TIME--IMPLICATIONS FOR SO(4) PHYSICS--

2020-04-13 Thread bobcook39...@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: CONCEPTS OF TIME-- On Sat, Apr 11, 2020 at 5:14 PM mailto:mix...@bigpond.com>> wrote: Note that our perception of the flow of time and even our measurement of it is based on processes which may vary in speed. IOW if the fabric of space time changes, e.g. in a g

Re: [Vo]:Re: CONCEPTS OF TIME--

2020-04-12 Thread H LV
On Sat, Apr 11, 2020 at 5:14 PM wrote: > > > Note that our perception of the flow of time and even our measurement of > it is based on processes which may vary in > speed. IOW if the fabric of space time changes, e.g. in a gravitational > field, then the processes upon which our clocks > are

Re: [Vo]:Re: CONCEPTS OF TIME--

2020-04-11 Thread mixent
In reply to Jürg Wyttenbach's message of Sat, 11 Apr 2020 10:59:14 +0200: Hi, [snip] >Your logic is one way correct. > >If you take the path length L given by c covered by one second, then >this is just one out of infinite many possible gauges. >A frequency is just the breakdown of L in units of

Re: [Vo]:Re: CONCEPTS OF TIME--

2020-04-11 Thread H LV
On Sat, Apr 11, 2020 at 11:04 AM Jürg Wyttenbach wrote: > You verb it right "suggests" !! > > This kind of "communication" is outside the domain of standard > communication theory > > Its also far outside GER with the real existing communication at >>c . ( > Measured here in Switzerland! long

Re: [Vo]:Re: CONCEPTS OF TIME--

2020-04-11 Thread Jürg Wyttenbach
You verb it right "suggests" !! This kind of "communication" is outside the domain of standard communication theory Its also far outside GER with the real existing communication at >>c . ( Measured here in Switzerland! long time ago..) But this communication does not affect an exchange of

Re: [Vo]:Re: CONCEPTS OF TIME--

2020-04-11 Thread H LV
On Fri, Apr 10, 2020 at 6:27 PM Jürg Wyttenbach wrote: > Good to know some more physicists start to think about time. One of them > cited I did know personally. > > The real problem is the missing education in computation theory. I did > spend 2 net years working on the theme, which the article

Re: [Vo]:Re: CONCEPTS OF TIME--

2020-04-11 Thread Jürg Wyttenbach
Your logic is one way correct. If you take the path length L given by c covered by one second, then this is just one out of infinite many possible gauges. A frequency is just the breakdown of L in units of wavelength. This is also what today is used to define time!! - just the other way round

Re: [Vo]:Re: CONCEPTS OF TIME--

2020-04-11 Thread Frank Grimer
I like it. Makes sense to me.  On Fri, 10 Apr 2020 at 23:27, Jürg Wyttenbach wrote: > Good to know some more physicists start to think about time. One of them > cited I did know personally. > > The real problem is the missing education in computation theory. I did > spend 2 net years working

Re: [Vo]:Re: CONCEPTS OF TIME--

2020-04-11 Thread mixent
In reply to Jürg Wyttenbach's message of Sat, 11 Apr 2020 00:26:55 +0200: Hi Jürg, [snip] >Time is just the measurement interval or the >frequency what ever you like more. How can you speak of interval or frequency without time? Once time itself exists, you can have an interval of time. You

[Vo]:Re: CONCEPTS OF TIME--

2020-04-10 Thread Jürg Wyttenbach
Good to know some more physicists start to think about time. One of them cited I did know personally. The real problem is the missing education in computation theory. I did spend 2 net years working on the theme, which the article tries to illuminate. I developed a new computer architecture

[Vo]:Re: Masks

2020-03-25 Thread Frank Znidarsic
I cant believe that they are willing to do this at $2 a mask.  Just like the girls who grew long hair for gun sites in WW2 todays women want to help but dont know how. -Original Message- From: Frank Znidarsic To: vortex-l Sent: Wed, Mar 25, 2020 12:46 pm Subject: Masks I have

[Vo]:Re: some good news

2020-03-07 Thread Frank Znidarsic
here is the review.  In this field any news is good news. http://www.angelfire.com/scifi2/zpt/temp/063_FT389.pdf -Original Message- From: Frank Znidarsic To: vortex-l Sent: Sat, Mar 7, 2020 11:32 am Subject: some good news Your book on Energy, Cold Fusion and Antigravity had a short

[Vo]:Re: A good model makes accurate predictions

2020-03-04 Thread Frank Znidarsic
Here is what happened last year.  A coal truck hit a large power pole.  The high voltage line fell onto the low voltage system.   200 meters blew off of many houses.  The houses had to be reinspected before the power was returned. http://www.angelfire.com/scifi2/zpt/temp/meter.jpg That the

[Vo]:Re: A good model makes accurate predictions

2020-03-04 Thread Frank Znidarsic
I put the heater on the wall in the basement near the stair well.  It stinks while heating. -Original Message- From: Frank Znidarsic To: vortex-l Sent: Wed, Mar 4, 2020 12:22 pm Subject: Re: A good model makes accurate predictions Thanks Robin It burns natural gas.  I have never

[Vo]:Re: A good model makes accurate predictions

2020-03-04 Thread Frank Znidarsic
Thanks Robin It burns natural gas.  I have never lost gas.  The gas company has there own back up power for delivery.  I was worried about CO with a ventless heater.  The newer models have low oxygen sensors to prevent CO emissions. I bought the Dinaglow becuse it can be scaled back.  That way

Re: [Vo]:Re: A good model makes accurate predictions

2020-03-03 Thread mixent
In reply to Frank Znidarsic's message of Sun, 1 Mar 2020 17:25:15 + (UTC): Hi Frank, [snip] >I put in a ventless heater that does not require electric power.  What does it burn? Regards, Robin van Spaandonk local asymmetry = temporary success

[Vo]:Re: A good model makes accurate predictions

2020-03-01 Thread Frank Znidarsic
Thanks for that again Robin van Spaandonk.  Unfortunately nothing ever came out of it.  I am getting ready.  I put in all LED light bulbs.  I have a self designed TV antenna that picks up 28 channels in the valley.  I am tapping in to a higher spring to supply back up and flush water.  Maybe

Re: [Vo]:Re: Give It Up for Randell

2020-02-09 Thread mixent
In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Sun, 9 Feb 2020 11:59:17 -0500: Hi, The COP however still leaves a little to be desired. I don't think they can use this for electricity generation just yet. As an efficient heat source, yes. >On Sun, Feb 9, 2020 at 11:54 AM Terry Blanton wrote: >> >>

[Vo]:Re: Give It Up for Randell

2020-02-09 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sun, Feb 9, 2020 at 11:54 AM Terry Blanton wrote: > > ...one more time! > > https://revolution-green.com/blp-4-24x-gain-yielding-295-71-kw-net-excess-power-validated-unc-phd-randy-booker/ The poorly focused images remind me of UFO piccys!

[Vo]:Re: got published but not for cold fusion or gravity research

2019-12-14 Thread Frank Znidarsic
I know that I have been off topic a bit.  But rest assured I am working on things.  Nothing happed as of yet, that's why I don't say anything about this effort. Two years ago I played a Christmas song on my piano for you.  Last year a played a Christmas song on my 100 year old restored Radiola

[Vo]:Re: [Vo]:Galileo’s craven refusal to support Copernican astronomy

2019-11-14 Thread Jed Rothwell
bobcook39...@hotmail.com wrote: > The essay you provide highlights the effect of the “hard wired” instinct > to be part of the HERD of people making up a society of economically driven > humans and a FEELING it is good to be the most aggressive pecker in the > flock, the top dog, the biggest

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