On 01/01/2010 12:59 PM, William Beaty wrote:
On Fri, 1 Jan 2010, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
An ideal toroidal coil has no external field -- symmetry and simple
arguments regarding the curl of the B field show that it's got to
be null outside the torus. In particular, any loop around the
On Thu, 31 Dec 2009, Harry Veeder wrote:
billb wrote:
On Wed, 30 Dec 2009, Craig Haynie wrote:
By moving a magnetic field across a conductor, don't we get induction,
and hence, electricity?
Not in a toroid inductor with unsaturated core. The ring-shape core will shield
the inductor against
On 01/01/2010 03:30 AM, William Beaty wrote:
On Thu, 31 Dec 2009, Harry Veeder wrote:
billb wrote:
On Wed, 30 Dec 2009, Craig Haynie wrote:
By moving a magnetic field across a conductor, don't we get induction,
and hence, electricity?
Not in a toroid inductor with unsaturated core.
to be in the shape of a continuous metalic belt
around the rotor.
harry
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From: Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, December 31, 2009 8:44:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Steorn Replication
If you check carefully, Steorn uses two
On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 10:32 AM, Stephen A. Lawrence sa...@pobox.com wrote:
My explanation is not very clear -- I hope it makes at least a little
sense to folks...
Much so, thanks! For those small magnets this is probably a fairly
accurate representation.
Terry
On Fri, 1 Jan 2010, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
So the problem I had is failure to properly picture a non-uniform
magnetic field.
Or, from practical experience with inductors, I could imagine noticing the
effects of saturation, but ascribing the cause to nonuniform fields! :)
First, let me
On Wed, 30 Dec 2009, Craig Haynie wrote:
When the power to the controller is switched off, no induction is
measured in the stator coils. Why? Isn't this how a generator works?
Ferromagnetic materials are nonlinear. If their operation is kept well
below the saturation region, then yes, a
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From: Craig Haynie cchayniepub...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, December 30, 2009 1:13:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Steorn Replication
Setting aside the issue of over unity or free energy, what does the 'zero'
meter reading mean ? a violation
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From: William Beaty bi...@eskimo.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, December 31, 2009 4:36:48 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Steorn Replication
On Wed, 30 Dec 2009, Craig Haynie wrote:
By moving a magnetic field across a conductor, don't we get induction
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Steorn Replication
On Wed, 30 Dec 2009, Craig Haynie wrote:
By moving a magnetic field across a conductor, don't we get induction,
and hence, electricity?
Not in a toroid inductor with unsaturated core. The ring-shape core will
shield
the inductor against fields coming
...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, December 31, 2009 8:44:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Steorn Replication
If you check carefully, Steorn uses two magnets to help make the field
homogeneous.
On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 7:56 PM, Harry Veeder wrote:
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From
I find this video to be interesting:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_gkxfX98as
When the power to the controller is switched off, no induction is
measured in the stator coils. Why? Isn't this how a generator works?
By moving a magnetic field across a conductor, don't we get induction,
and hence,
Here are two more replications:
http://www.youtube.com/user/m1a9r9s9#p/u/2/nDABKqdB538
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGPRoHgz8Rw
The first link shows no apparent current increase as the speed of the
rotor picks up, and tends to really display the effect that is
perplexing all of these people.
From: Craig Haynie cchayniepub...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, December 30, 2009 11:45:30 AM
Subject: [Vo]:Steorn Replication
I find this video to be interesting:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_gkxfX98as
When the power to the controller is switched off, no induction
What happens when two solenoids wound oppositely pass through a common
magnetic field if you tie the conductors together?
Terry
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 11:45 AM, Craig Haynie cchayniepub...@gmail.com wrote:
I find this video to be interesting:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_gkxfX98as
When
Setting aside the issue of over unity or free energy, what does the 'zero'
meter reading mean ? a violation lenz law? a faulty meter? or meter leads
located at the wrong place?
Are you implying that the amp meter is not connected correctly? If so,
why would the current increase at low RPM.
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
What happens when two solenoids wound oppositely pass through a common
magnetic field if you tie the conductors together?
I suspect you would get a zero reading, but how is that relevant to
this demonstration?
If you pass a plane through the toroidal inductor, you will see that,
in cross section, piecewise it's the same effect.
Terry
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 1:14 PM, Craig Haynie cchayniepub...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
What happens
If you pass a plane through the toroidal inductor, you will see that,
in cross section, piecewise it's the same effect.
I see... thanks. But doesn't that prove his point, though, that if
there is no reverse induction, then the circuits are independent?
But, even if they are independent, this
At 12:14 PM 12/30/2009, Craig Haynie wrote:
Here are two more replications:
The first link shows no apparent current increase as the speed of the
rotor picks up, and tends to really display the effect that is
perplexing all of these people.
At 12:15 PM 12/30/2009, Harry Veeder wrote:
Here is the same unit turned by hand
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xungPOZtIo
Setting aside the issue of over unity or free energy, what does the
'zero' meter reading mean ? a violation lenz law? a faulty meter? or
meter leads located at the wrong
At 01:13 PM 12/30/2009, Craig Haynie wrote:
Setting aside the issue of over unity or free energy, what does
the 'zero' meter reading mean ? a violation lenz law? a faulty
meter? or meter leads located at the wrong place?
Are you implying that the amp meter is not connected correctly? If so,
Craig, I don't think you get that the demonstrations show almost
nothing, except that the second video you pointed to conclusively
refutes the claim of no back-EMF, and quite visually, with the
blinking of that neon bulb, which, as I recall, requires about 65
volts to initiate, the bulb then
On 12/30/2009 03:31 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote:
At 12:14 PM 12/30/2009, Craig Haynie wrote:
Here are two more replications:
The first link shows no apparent current increase as the speed of the
rotor picks up, and tends to really display the effect that is
perplexing all of these
At 04:37 PM 12/30/2009, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
On 12/30/2009 03:31 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax wrote:
At 12:14 PM 12/30/2009, Craig Haynie wrote:
Here are two more replications:
The first link shows no apparent current increase as the speed of the
rotor picks up, and tends to really
Stephen A. Lawrence [mailto:sa...@pobox.com] wrote:
The only interaction between a live electrical circuit and a physical
object on which it can do work is in step (3). In that step, the coil
is energized in such a way that it would REPEL the magnet, which is
moving away from it. Think about it
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