[Vo]:Wiki on E-CAT

2013-06-03 Thread a.ashfield
Having tried to edit something on the wiki E-CAT page and having it immediately deleted, I ended up writing this on the Topic Talk page. It probably won't do any good but if enough people do this (anyone can) They say there are 1000- 7000 hits per day on the E-CAT page. This discussion

Re: [Vo]:Wiki on E-CAT

2013-06-03 Thread Berke Durak
On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 4:31 PM, a.ashfield a.ashfi...@verizon.net wrote: Having tried to edit something on the wiki E-CAT page and having it immediately deleted, I ended up writing this on the Topic Talk page. It probably won't do any good but if enough people do this (anyone can) They

Re: [Vo]:Wiki on E-CAT

2013-06-03 Thread a.ashfield
Berke Durak, My interest was to get Wiki to correct their entry. Not clear to me how Reddit can help that.

Re: [Vo]:Wiki on E-CAT

2013-06-03 Thread Berke Durak
On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 4:57 PM, a.ashfield a.ashfi...@verizon.net wrote: Berke Durak, My interest was to get Wiki to correct their entry. Not clear to me how Reddit can help that. The idea is that pro-LENR people could collaboratively work on a wiki where they have editorial control, whose

Re: [Vo]:Wiki on E-CAT

2013-06-03 Thread Jouni Valkonen
On Jun 3, 2013, at 11:31 PM, a.ashfield a.ashfi...@verizon.net wrote: In fact an independent test has been carried out. This is not true. The test was arranged in Rossi's facilities and by Giuseppe Levi. And problem is that we do not know what is financial relationship between Rossi and Levi,

Re: [Vo]:Wiki on E-CAT

2013-06-03 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jouni Valkonen jounivalko...@gmail.com wrote: And since there is no radiation, I do not see that it is plausible have claimed levels of excess heat. So, you dismiss the entire body of cold fusion research? Is that what you are saying? Do you think that all of the other researchers are also

Re: [Vo]:Wiki on E-CAT

2013-06-03 Thread a.ashfield
Jouni Valkonen wrote: This is not true. The test was arranged in Rossi's facilities and by Giuseppe Levi. And problem is that we do not know what is financial relationship between Rossi and Levi, so Levi, who has been chief scientist in all ecat tests, cannot be considered as independent

Re: [Vo]:Wiki on E-CAT

2013-06-03 Thread Eric Walker
On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 5:49 PM, Jouni Valkonen jounivalko...@gmail.comwrote: On Jun 3, 2013, at 11:31 PM, a.ashfield a.ashfi...@verizon.net wrote: In fact an independent test has been carried out. This is not true. The test was arranged in Rossi's facilities and by Giuseppe Levi. And problem

Re: [Vo]:Wiki on E-CAT

2013-06-03 Thread a.ashfield
I have opened a dispute notice on Wiki. As far as I know, anyone can join the fray (at the bottom.) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard#Energy_Catalyzer_discussion

Re: [Vo]:Wiki on E-CAT

2013-06-03 Thread Eric Walker
On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 1:44 PM, Berke Durak berke.du...@gmail.com wrote: I love the mailing list format as its dependence on third-party infrastructure is minimal and replaceable but it's a bit too easy for opponents to flood and derail discussions. One thing that recently occurred to me is

Re: [Vo]:Wiki on E-CAT

2013-06-03 Thread Jouni Valkonen
On Jun 4, 2013, at 5:16 AM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote: In my opinion, people should not bring up fraud unless they have specific and compelling evidence. I do not know what the law (e.g., US law) says about the permissible boundaries for discussing possible fraud in a public

Re: [Vo]:Wiki on E-CAT

2013-06-03 Thread Randy Wuller
Your hunch amounts to overwhelming evidence? Rossi is public figure? You think you can accuse someone of fraud and not be subject to possible suit? As a practicing lawyer, your comments make me shudder! Ransom Sent from my iPhone On Jun 3, 2013, at 9:37 PM, Jouni Valkonen