Re: [Vo]:ideal client -- sekrit

2011-10-29 Thread Alan Fletcher
Rossi no-comments : Andrea Rossi October 29th, 2011 at 12:14 PM http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=516cpage=5#comment-105875 Dear Max: The Customer is of a category that usually maintains secret all they do. I do not know if and when they will want to make public statements and I am

Re: [Vo]:ideal client -- sekrit

2011-10-29 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 1:35 PM, Alan Fletcher a...@well.com wrote: Rossi no-comments : Andrea Rossi October 29th, 2011 at 12:14 PM http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=516cpage=5#comment-105875 Dear Max: The Customer is of a category that usually maintains secret all they do. I

Re: [Vo]:ideal client -- sekrit

2011-10-29 Thread Daniel Rocha
Area 51? 2011/10/29 Alan Fletcher a...@well.com Rossi no-comments : Andrea Rossi October 29th, 2011 at 12:14 PM http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=516cpage=5#comment-105875 Dear Max: The Customer is of a category that usually maintains secret all they do. I do not know if

Re: [Vo]:ideal client -- sekrit

2011-10-29 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 29.10.2011 19:55, schrieb Daniel Rocha: Area 51? Cosa Nostra? Mafia! ;-) 2011/10/29 Alan Fletcher a...@well.com mailto:a...@well.com Rossi no-comments : Andrea Rossi October 29th, 2011 at 12:14 PM http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=516cpage=5#comment-105875

Re: [Vo]:ideal client -- sekrit

2011-10-29 Thread Terry Blanton
Exxon

Re: [Vo]:ideal client -- sekrit

2011-10-29 Thread Robert Leguillon
I don't think the Mafia has written non-disclosure agreements. But when things go wrong, they are known for putting out contracts Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote: Am 29.10.2011 19:55, schrieb Daniel Rocha: Area 51? Cosa Nostra? Mafia! ;-) 2011/10/29 Alan Fletcher a...@well.com

Re: [Vo]:ideal client -- sekrit

2011-10-29 Thread Jed Rothwell
Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: The Customer is of a category that usually maintains secret all they do. . . . A skeptic forum member elsewhere predicted those words almost verbatim. Not hard to predict. Rossi said that before the test. It may not be true, but that is what he

Re: [Vo]:ideal client -- sekrit

2011-10-29 Thread Axil Axil
I am of the contrarian opinion; for an American, this is the very best of news. If the customer is a military organization (the US Navy), the security apparatus of the associated country (the US) is now available in all its varied and potent forms both known and clandestine to protect the Rossi

[Vo]:ideal client

2011-10-28 Thread Peter Gluck
Stirling Allan reports: *QA just finished; reading of results; 470 kW maintained continuously during * *self-sustain; customer satisfied; sale made; more later.* I definitely like this client! Peter -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com

Re: [Vo]:ideal client

2011-10-28 Thread Daniel Rocha
That's ~3KW for every core... So, that's much less than the other test on 6th october, or at lest at the low end. And the client was promised 1 to 6 amplification! Wow, happened? 2011/10/28 Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com Stirling Allan reports: *QA just finished; reading of results; 470 kW

Re: [Vo]:ideal client

2011-10-28 Thread Terry Blanton
On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 2:35 PM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote: That's ~3KW for every core... So, that's much less than the other test on 6th october, or at lest at the low end. And the client was promised 1 to 6 amplification! Wow, happened? If there was no input power, the

Re: [Vo]:ideal client

2011-10-28 Thread Daniel Rocha
There certainly was input, as it always happen to achieve a threshold temperature to begin the reaction. But, anyway, this was not the promised test... 2011/10/28 Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 2:35 PM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote: That's ~3KW for every

Re: [Vo]:ideal client

2011-10-28 Thread Jed Rothwell
Stirling Allan reported: *QA just finished; reading of results; 470 kW maintained continuously during . . .* I believe Terry Blanton's prediction was the closest to this. He wins the prize here, if these results are confirmed. The difference between 470 kW and 1 MW is unimportant. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:ideal client

2011-10-28 Thread Peter Gluck
I am so sorry that I don't know who is the Customer. I want to offer him a Trabant 1963 and ask the price of a Rolls Royce 2009. So I lose a great opportunity. On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 9:47 PM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote: There certainly was input, as it always happen to achieve a

Re: [Vo]:ideal client

2011-10-28 Thread Jed Rothwell
Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote: And the client was promised 1 to 6 amplification! Wow, happened? The amplification was reportedly infinite, but anyway, how do you know what the customer was promised? Were you there during the negotiations? There certainly was input, as it always

Re: [Vo]:ideal client

2011-10-28 Thread Terry Blanton
If Rossi's Reactor output 470,000 watts using a sustained Nickel/Hydrogen reaction and an industrial client from the US just bought it, the world has changed more dramatically than when the Trinity site as alit. Vishnu also creates worlds. T

Re: [Vo]:ideal client

2011-10-28 Thread Daniel Rocha
. -- Forwarded message -- From: Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com Date: 2011/10/28 Subject: Re: [Vo]:ideal client To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote: And the client was promised 1 to 6 amplification! Wow, happened? The amplification was reportedly infinite

Re: [Vo]:ideal client

2011-10-28 Thread Bruno Santos
know that from what he says that self sustaining is not stable for long. Now, he does a test that is very within the energy density of 1L or 2L of propane in every core. -- Forwarded message -- From: Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com Date: 2011/10/28 Subject: Re: [Vo]:ideal

Re: [Vo]:ideal client

2011-10-28 Thread Peter Gluck
does a test that is very within the energy density of 1L or 2L of propane in every core. -- Forwarded message -- From: Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com Date: 2011/10/28 Subject: Re: [Vo]:ideal client To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote

Re: [Vo]:ideal client

2011-10-28 Thread ecat builder
The first priority is to win the sale. Getting outbid while kicking the tires would be devastating to the customer. The contract will specify that the sale is void if Rossi is using chemical shenanigans. The sooner the customer can start working on the technology, the faster they can establish

Re: [Vo]:ideal client

2011-10-28 Thread Daniel Rocha
Subject: Re: [Vo]:ideal client To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote: And the client was promised 1 to 6 amplification! Wow, happened? The amplification was reportedly infinite, but anyway, how do you know what the customer was promised? Were you there during

Re: [Vo]:ideal client

2011-10-28 Thread David Roberson
Subject: Re: [Vo]:ideal client On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 2:35 PM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote: That's ~3KW for every core... So, that's much less than the other test on 6th october, or at lest at the low end. And the client was promised 1 to 6 amplification! Wow, happened

Re: [Vo]:ideal client

2011-10-28 Thread David Roberson
@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, Oct 28, 2011 2:48 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:ideal client There certainly was input, as it always happen to achieve a threshold temperature to begin the reaction. But, anyway, this was not the promised test... 2011/10/28 Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com On Fri, Oct 28, 2011

Re: [Vo]:ideal client

2011-10-28 Thread Akira Shirakawa
On 2011-10-28 20:26, Peter Gluck wrote: Stirling Allan reports: *QA just finished; reading of results; 470 kW maintained continuously during * *self-sustain; customer satisfied; sale made; more later.* I definitely like this client! Interesting comment on 22passi blog by an unidentified user

Re: [Vo]:ideal client

2011-10-28 Thread Akira Shirakawa
On 2011-10-28 21:52, Akira Shirakawa wrote: Interesting comment on 22passi blog by an unidentified user (who appears to be truthful), translated in English by me. I think he mistook kW and MW with kWh and MWh: More interestingly, the same user is also reporting that during the press

Re: [Vo]:ideal client

2011-10-28 Thread Peter Heckert
If they only have heated water by about 50° then he would not need any permission. This would be 2 liters of hot water per second (estimated, not calculated). this are 7.2 m^3 per hour. This should be possible. However, how did they cool down the water (or condense the steam) to recycle it?

Re: [Vo]:ideal client

2011-10-28 Thread Jed Rothwell
Peter Heckert wrote: If they only have heated water by about 50° then he would not need any permission. In the U.S. you are not allowed to operate a boiler as large as this without a permit. It makes no difference whether it produces steam or hot water. You must have a permit; the machine

Re: [Vo]:ideal client

2011-10-28 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 28.10.2011 22:59, schrieb Jed Rothwell: Peter Heckert wrote: If they only have heated water by about 50° then he would not need any permission. In the U.S. you are not allowed to operate a boiler as large as this without a permit. It makes no difference whether it produces steam or hot

Re: [Vo]:ideal client

2011-10-28 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 28.10.2011 23:15, schrieb Peter Heckert: The problem is, the heat must be dissipated or stored somewhere. Even at 470kW this cannot been done easily. How was this done? Has nobody seen something. Where there big ventilators running? This must give more than 7 m^3 of hot water per hour or

Re: [Vo]:ideal client

2011-10-28 Thread Akira Shirakawa
On 2011-10-28 23:15, Peter Heckert wrote: The problem is, the heat must be dissipated or stored somewhere. Even at 470kW this cannot been done easily. How was this done? Has nobody seen something. Where there big ventilators running? Another 22passi user who was there mentions there were six

Re: [Vo]:ideal client

2011-10-28 Thread Jed Rothwell
Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com wrote: Another 22passi user who was there mentions there were six large (1.5x1.5 meters) heat exchangers with approximately 1 meter wide cooling fans. Ah! Finally some technical details. That sounds good. Six large heat exchangers sounds like what

Re: [Vo]:ideal client

2011-10-28 Thread Akira Shirakawa
On 2011-10-28 23:56, Jed Rothwell wrote: Ah! Finally some technical details. That sounds good. Six large heat exchangers sounds like what you would need. Where did you read that? URL please! I read it in one of the latest comments of 22passi Blog user nemo here:

Re: [Vo]:ideal client

2011-10-28 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 28.10.2011 23:38, schrieb Akira Shirakawa: On 2011-10-28 23:15, Peter Heckert wrote: The problem is, the heat must be dissipated or stored somewhere. Even at 470kW this cannot been done easily. How was this done? Has nobody seen something. Where there big ventilators running? Another