Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat

2013-05-30 Thread Alain Sepeda
:* mercredi 29 mai 2013 21:53 *To:* **vortex-l@eskimo.com** *Cc:* Edmund Storms *Subject:* Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat ** ** Fran, I would not guess how Rossi bonds the powder to the wall, only that this must be done. A secret sauce is applied before the Ni

RE: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat CB radio RF generation

2013-05-30 Thread Arnaud Kodeck
at a low frequency regarding the material used by Rossi to make its eCat. _ From: David L Babcock [mailto:ol...@rochester.rr.com] Sent: jeudi 30 mai 2013 02:57 To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat CB radio RF generation If plenty of power

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat CB radio RF generation

2013-05-30 Thread Ron Wormus
: Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat Why else would Rossi say that the output of his control box was a trade secret? A DC feed of a internal heater is not a trade secret. On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 4:34 PM, Arnaud Kodeck arnaud.kod...@lakoco.be wrote: Axil, I doubt

RE: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat

2013-05-29 Thread Roarty, Francis X
milk balls but a recent thread also suggested a gelatinous colloid. Fran From: Edmund Storms [mailto:stor...@ix.netcom.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 11:43 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Cc: Edmund Storms Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat Bob, this is a good analysis of a possible

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat

2013-05-29 Thread Edmund Storms
colloid. Fran From: Edmund Storms [mailto:stor...@ix.netcom.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 11:43 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Cc: Edmund Storms Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat Bob, this is a good analysis of a possible design. You are right, the powder must make good

RE: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat

2013-05-29 Thread Arnaud Kodeck
colloid. Fran From: Edmund Storms [mailto:stor...@ix.netcom.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 11:43 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Cc: Edmund Storms Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat Bob, this is a good analysis of a possible design. You are right, the powder must make

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat

2013-05-29 Thread Axil Axil
. Fran ** ** *From:* Edmund Storms [mailto:stor...@ix.netcom.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, May 29, 2013 11:43 AM *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com *Cc:* Edmund Storms *Subject:* EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat ** ** Bob, this is a good analysis of a possible design. You

RE: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat

2013-05-29 Thread Roarty, Francis X
Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat Fran, I would not guess how Rossi bonds the powder to the wall, only that this must be done. A secret sauce is applied before the Ni is placed in the e-Cat in order to create the NAE. You need to identify how many additional secret sauces you

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat

2013-05-29 Thread Axil Axil
Storms *Subject:* Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat ** ** Fran, I would not guess how Rossi bonds the powder to the wall, only that this must be done. A secret sauce is applied before the Ni is placed in the e-Cat in order to create the NAE. You need to identify how many

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat

2013-05-29 Thread Jed Rothwell
If the powder sinters, I suppose: That's good because it is what makes the powder stick to the wall. That's bad because it reduces surface area. This is what caused Arata's pure Pd black cells to stop working after a while. Takahashi said it was not the high temperature but rather the chemical

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat

2013-05-29 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wrote: That's bad because it reduces surface area. This is what caused Arata's pure Pd black cells to stop working after a while. I mean the Double Structured (DS) cathodes. Those things were crammed full of Pd black, according to McKubre. I think he said that. Cramming them full ensured

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat

2013-05-29 Thread Edmund Storms
on the earlier ecat and actually be part of the NAE formation? Fran From: Edmund Storms [mailto:stor...@ix.netcom.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 3:53 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Cc: Edmund Storms Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat Fran, I would not guess how Rossi bonds

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat

2013-05-29 Thread Axil Axil
In the Arata experiment, when the powder melted, the reaction stopped. In dynamic NAE creation, when the NAE is destroyed, new NAEs take its place and the cycle is constant. On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 4:14 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: I wrote: That's bad because it reduces

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat

2013-05-29 Thread Edmund Storms
by the black box between wall socket and the eCat. Arnaud From: Edmund Storms [mailto:stor...@ix.netcom.com] Sent: mercredi 29 mai 2013 21:53 To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Cc: Edmund Storms Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat Fran, I would not guess how Rossi bonds the powder

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat

2013-05-29 Thread Edmund Storms
box between wall socket and the eCat. Arnaud From: Edmund Storms [mailto:stor...@ix.netcom.com] Sent: mercredi 29 mai 2013 21:53 To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Cc: Edmund Storms Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat Fran, I would not guess how Rossi bonds the powder to the wall

RE: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat

2013-05-29 Thread Arnaud Kodeck
@eskimo.com Cc: Edmund Storms Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat Amaud, we do not know this is as a fact. That conclusion is only proposed. We only know the black box controls the temperature INSIDE, probably in a complex way. The Ni-H2 reaction has shown no need in the past

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat

2013-05-29 Thread Axil Axil
between wall socket and the eCat. ** ** Arnaud -- *From:* Edmund Storms [mailto:stor...@ix.netcom.com] *Sent:* mercredi 29 mai 2013 21:53 *To:* **vortex-l@eskimo.com** *Cc:* Edmund Storms *Subject:* Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat

2013-05-29 Thread Edmund Storms
be somewhere there. EM stimulation could enhance the rate of the reaction. That’s not a fact I know. From: Edmund Storms [mailto:stor...@ix.netcom.com] Sent: mercredi 29 mai 2013 22:14 To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Cc: Edmund Storms Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat Amaud, we

RE: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat

2013-05-29 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
Rothwell [mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 1:11 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat If the powder sinters, I suppose: That's good because it is what makes the powder stick to the wall. That's bad because

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat

2013-05-29 Thread Edmund Storms
Storms [mailto:stor...@ix.netcom.com] Sent: mercredi 29 mai 2013 21:53 To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Cc: Edmund Storms Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat Fran, I would not guess how Rossi bonds the powder to the wall, only that this must be done. A secret sauce is applied before

RE: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat

2013-05-29 Thread Arnaud Kodeck
Axil, I doubt that the actual design of the eCat is able to bring CB range signal from electrical heating system. Or where else ? _ From: Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com] Sent: mercredi 29 mai 2013 22:08 To: vortex-l Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat

2013-05-29 Thread Axil Axil
. ** ** -mark ** ** *From:* Jed Rothwell [mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Wednesday, May 29, 2013 1:11 PM *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com *Subject:* Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat ** ** If the powder sinters, I suppose: ** ** That's good because it is what

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat

2013-05-29 Thread Axil Axil
:* Edmund Storms *Subject:* Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat ** ** Fran, I would not guess how Rossi bonds the powder to the wall, only that this must be done. A secret sauce is applied before the Ni is placed in the e-Cat in order to create the NAE. You need to identify how

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat

2013-05-29 Thread Axil Axil
signal from electrical heating system. Or where else ? ** ** -- *From:* Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com] *Sent:* mercredi 29 mai 2013 22:08 *To:* vortex-l *Subject:* Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat ** ** EMF simulation

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat

2013-05-29 Thread Edmund Storms
From: Edmund Storms [mailto:stor...@ix.netcom.com] Sent: mercredi 29 mai 2013 21:53 To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Cc: Edmund Storms Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat Fran, I would not guess how Rossi bonds the powder to the wall, only that this must be done. A secret sauce

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat

2013-05-29 Thread Axil Axil
else ? ** ** -- *From:* Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com] *Sent:* mercredi 29 mai 2013 22:08 *To:* vortex-l *Subject:* Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat ** ** EMF simulation in the CB range will form nanoparticles (aka clusters

RE: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat

2013-05-29 Thread Arnaud Kodeck
[mailto:janap...@gmail.com] Sent: mercredi 29 mai 2013 22:43 To: vortex-l Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat Why else would Rossi say that the output of his control box was a trade secret? A DC feed of a internal heater is not a trade secret. On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 4:34

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat

2013-05-29 Thread Axil Axil
:* Edmund Storms [mailto:stor...@ix.netcom.com] *Sent:* mercredi 29 mai 2013 21:53 *To:* **vortex-l@eskimo.com** *Cc:* Edmund Storms *Subject:* Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat ** ** Fran, I would not guess how Rossi bonds the powder to the wall, only that this must be done

RE: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat

2013-05-29 Thread Arnaud Kodeck
K2CO3 ? _ From: Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com] Sent: mercredi 29 mai 2013 22:49 To: vortex-l Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat They stated that the chemical was potassium carbide or some other carbon potassium combo. Carbon will also make nana

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat

2013-05-29 Thread Edmund Storms
...@gmail.com] Sent: mercredi 29 mai 2013 22:08 To: vortex-l Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat EMF simulation in the CB range will form nanoparticles (aka clusters). Potassium is the best candidate for the formation of dynamic NAE through nanoparticle formation when

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat

2013-05-29 Thread Axil Axil
2013 22:49 *To:* vortex-l *Subject:* Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat ** ** They stated that the chemical was potassium carbide or some other carbon potassium combo. Carbon will also make nana-particles when the compound vaporizes. ** ** On Wed, May

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat

2013-05-29 Thread Axil Axil
*To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com *Cc:* Edmund Storms *Subject:* Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat Fran, I would not guess how Rossi bonds the powder to the wall, only that this must be done. A secret sauce is applied before the Ni is placed in the e-Cat in order

RE: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat

2013-05-29 Thread Roarty, Francis X
The SCRs will give a giant di/dt but only once per cycle of the mains. From: Arnaud Kodeck [mailto:arnaud.kod...@lakoco.be] Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 4:34 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat Axil, I doubt that the actual design of the eCat

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat

2013-05-29 Thread Edmund Storms
: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat EMF simulation in the CB range will form nanoparticles (aka clusters). Potassium is the best candidate for the formation of dynamic NAE through nanoparticle formation when stimulated by EMF. On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Arnaud Kodeck

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat

2013-05-29 Thread Edmund Storms
design of the eCat is able to bring CB range signal from electrical heating system. Or where else ? From: Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com] Sent: mercredi 29 mai 2013 22:08 To: vortex-l Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat EMF simulation in the CB range will form

RE: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat

2013-05-29 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
:31 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Cc: Edmund Storms Subject: Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat Amaud, I have no doubt EM stimulation will enhance the LENR reaction. The only question is whether Rossi is successfully applying such stimulation. Based on the design of the hot-e-Cat, I do

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat

2013-05-29 Thread Axil Axil
? ** ** -- *From:* Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com] *Sent:* mercredi 29 mai 2013 22:08 *To:* vortex-l *Subject:* Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat ** ** EMF simulation in the CB range will form nanoparticles (aka clusters

RE: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat

2013-05-29 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
We know that Ni powder sinters at the temperature being produce What about adding some small amount of some other element to raise the sintering/melting temp; commonly done in alloying. OOTB suggestion... Anyone ever tried an alloy of Ni and Pd??? Ni and Ti??? LENR works with both, NAE possible

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat

2013-05-29 Thread Axil Axil
:* Wednesday, May 29, 2013 1:31 PM *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com *Cc:* Edmund Storms *Subject:* Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat ** ** Amaud, I have no doubt EM stimulation will enhance the LENR reaction. The only question is whether Rossi is successfully applying

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat

2013-05-29 Thread Edmund Storms
Mark, according to my understanding, ANY material can be made nuclear active as long as H+ can dissolve in the material. The challenge is to know what change has to occur too create the NAE. Each theory suggests a different change. Simply making alloys is a waste of time unless this

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat

2013-05-29 Thread Harry Veeder
no, no, no...cheese power requires a cheese sauce! ;-) Harry On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 4:33 PM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.comwrote: On May 29, 2013, at 2:27 PM, Axil Axil wrote: You did not use the potassium based secret sauce that Rossi uses. How do you know his sauce is potassium

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat

2013-05-29 Thread Harry Veeder
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 5:13 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.netwrote: We know that Ni powder sinters at the temperature being produce What about adding some small amount of some other element to raise the sintering/melting temp; commonly done in alloying. OOTB suggestion... Anyone

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat

2013-05-29 Thread Edmund Storms
Harry, I suggest you consult the literature. Addition of Cu LOWERS the mp of Ni. Ni and Cu form a continuous soild solution. The melting point is close to being linear between 1083° and 1453°, the mp of Ni. Ed Storms On May 29, 2013, at 4:18 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: On Wed, May 29, 2013

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat

2013-05-29 Thread Harry Veeder
Really? I did consult the literature a few weeks ago. My memory is playing tricks on me. harry On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 6:27 PM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.comwrote: Harry, I suggest you consult the literature. Addition of Cu LOWERS the mp of Ni. Ni and Cu form a continuous soild

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat CB radio RF generation

2013-05-29 Thread David L Babcock
. *From:*Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com] *Sent:* mercredi 29 mai 2013 22:43 *To:* vortex-l *Subject:* Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat Why else would Rossi say that the output of his control box was a trade secret? A DC feed

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Speculation about hotCat CB band

2013-05-29 Thread David L Babcock
Whoops! Hit the send button instead of spell check. ... obfuscate things, hide IP. Might take a chance at spilling some CB band junk just to mislead casual observation. Jeez, this sounds like we're beating the fraud horse. No, no, it's back to how does he stimulate/control ECat. Ol' Bab