Re: [Vo]:OT: Patent question

2015-07-20 Thread Jed Rothwell
Bob Higgins rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com wrote: In Rossi's case, he hasn't delivered a product that could be evaluated for patent violation yet. So, Piantelli would not be able to build a case against Rossi until he releases a publicly available product that could be tested for violation. By

Re: [Vo]:OT: Patent question

2015-07-20 Thread Lennart Thornros
Forget about patents. They are as obsolete as the pony-express. I have been involved on both sides. The winner is always the one with better financial support. In a few cases persistence has paid off. As an example a company has requested a patent for push button making two separate events start

Re: [Vo]:OT: Patent question

2015-07-20 Thread Bob Higgins
When I worked for a large corporation, I spent a lot of time with their internal patent system. A core criteria for deciding which invention disclosures to pursue as a patent had to do with the detect-ability of an infringement. Basically, if you couldn't detect that a competitor was using your

Re: [Vo]:OT: Patent question

2015-07-20 Thread Jed Rothwell
Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com wrote: Forget about patents. They are as obsolete as the pony-express. I do not see how cold fusion can succeed without patent protection. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:OT: Patent question

2015-07-20 Thread Jed Rothwell
I guess a patent in Italy would be a little better than nothing. Although with something as big as cold fusion I doubt it would be enforceable. - Jed

RE: [Vo]:OT: Patent question

2015-07-20 Thread Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.
? ( Thinking about it, I guess a court could subpoena anything it wants. ). Hoyt Stearns Scottsdale, Arizona US From: Lennart Thornros [mailto:lenn...@thornros.com] Sent: Monday, July 20, 2015 10:28 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:OT: Patent question Forget about patents

RE: [Vo]:OT: Patent question

2015-07-20 Thread Jones Beene
From: Jed Rothwell The Italian Patent Office granted a patent for the E-Cat in 2011, valid until 2028 but only in Italy. Ø Of what POSSIBLE use is a patent valid only in Italy?!? Ø It sounds like a patent valid on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays in months with R in them. Well –

RE: [Vo]:OT: Patent question

2015-07-20 Thread Jones Beene
Hoyt - Has a LENR patent actually been granted to him in the USA? Piantelli has a recent PATENT APPLICATION and many older ones, but not a granted LENR patent in the USA, as far as I know. http://www.google.com/patents/US20140098917 He will not likely ever get one either, given the stance

Re: [Vo]:OT: Patent question

2015-07-20 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: The Italian Patent Office granted a patent for the E-Cat in 2011, valid until 2028 but only in Italy. Of what POSSIBLE use is a patent valid only in Italy?!? It sounds like a patent valid on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays in months with R in them. -

Re: [Vo]:OT: Patent question

2015-07-20 Thread Lennart Thornros
Jed, you think I do not see how cold fusion can succeed without patent protection. I might not fully understand the theoretical discussions. However, it sounds to me that there are many ways LENT might work. To participate in a lawsuit about who has what patented will just resources away from

Re: [Vo]:OT: Patent question

2015-07-20 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wrote: Someone who knows a great deal about patents and the U.S. military told me the USPO would not allow that. You cannot use a patent to suppress a technology or prevent it from reaching the market. There are regulations forbidding that. Not just regulations; it would be a clear

Re: [Vo]:OT: Patent question

2015-07-20 Thread Terry Blanton
On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 11:37 AM, Bob Higgins rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com wrote: When I worked for a large corporation, I spent a lot of time with their internal patent system. A core criteria for deciding which invention disclosures to pursue as a patent had to do with the detect-ability of an

Re: [Vo]:OT: Patent question

2015-07-20 Thread Lennart Thornros
Terry and Bob I agree. That is reality and you need capital and soup is ready. Your reasoning is perfect for deep pockets, which is what you say. It is not a protection for a sol inventor. Best Regards , Lennart Thornros www.StrategicLeadershipSac.com lenn...@thornros.com +1 916 436 1899 202

Re: [Vo]:OT: Patent question

2015-07-20 Thread Jed Rothwell
Lennart Thornros lenn...@thornros.com wrote: To me the real catastrophe as I see it is if there is a patent and a strong financial arm holding off the development and implementation of a new energy source. Someone who knows a great deal about patents and the U.S. military told me the USPO