Bologna University, Uppsala University and Royal Institute of Technology,
Stockholm must all have good football teams.
On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 10:45 PM, Brad Lowe ecatbuil...@gmail.com wrote:
Available here:
http://arxiv.org/abs/1305.3913
Press release
No football teams in Bologna University. In Italy Universities are focused
on academics not sports.
Giovanni
On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 1:10 AM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:
Bologna University, Uppsala University and Royal Institute of Technology,
Stockholm must all have good football
Are they going to publish this report in a respected Physics Journal? Which
one exactly?
Giovanni
On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 1:10 AM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:
Bologna University, Uppsala University and Royal Institute of Technology,
Stockholm must all have good football teams.
Giovanni, I am making a snide reference to Dr. Nathan Lewis's snide
reference to the athletic prowess of the Universities that had reproduced
the FP effect -- indicating that, obviously, if you have a good football
team you must be technically inept:
See the youtube video capturing this marvel of
Snide yes. Of value? Not really.
On 20/05/2013 5:42 PM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:
Giovanni, I am making a snide reference to Dr. Nathan Lewis's snide
reference to the athletic prowess of the Universities that had reproduced
the FP effect -- indicating that, obviously, if you have
On the contrary, Dr. Lewis's snide comment will go down in history as an
incredibly valuable teachable moment and it is quite appropriate to
remember it in the context of this announcement.
On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 2:44 AM, Patrick Ellul ellulpatr...@gmail.comwrote:
Snide yes. Of value? Not
I found an svg file with sample Rogone plots ... and superimposed the Dec test
on it
Equations 34 and 35
http://www.well.com/~af/ecat_dec_chart_130520A.png
(Gee whiz : the COP came out the way we calculated it!)
Dear Alan,
what, a bit more exactly want you say about he COP?
Thanks
Peter
On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Alan Fletcher a...@well.com wrote:
I found an svg file with sample Rogone plots ... and superimposed the Dec
test on it
Equations 34 and 35
I am surprised by the date of publication: Pentecost. Pentecost means the
descent of the Holy Spirit to the Apostles.
Coincidence?
-Original Message-
From: Alan Fletcher [mailto:a...@well.com]
Sent: lundi 20 mai 2013 11:51
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Hot Cat report
I get it. Thanks James.
On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 5:56 PM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:
On the contrary, Dr. Lewis's snide comment will go down in history as an
incredibly valuable teachable moment and it is quite appropriate to
remember it in the context of this announcement.
On
Good Stuff. Thanks for your wisdom Peter.
On Monday, May 20, 2013, Peter Gluck wrote:
My reaction. joy and realism (I think) to the event of today:
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2013/05/the-professors-have-published-hot-cat.html
Peter
--
Dr. Peter Gluck
Cluj, Romania
Three cheers for Andrea Rossi!!!
You have to give the man credit. He can be very annoying some times, but at
other times he comes through like no one else in this field.
- Jed
I sent a note to Andrea:
I am especially pleased to see this in an open source library. I think I
will copy it to LENR-CANR.org. Please tell Prof. Levi I intend to to that,
if you get a chance. Congratulations to all of you.
This is one of the most important papers in the history of the field.
On Fri May 17 Ed Storms said [snip] Your description proposes that a certain
size
gap blocks a fraction of the radiation coming from a particular
direction. In other words, the photons are stopped in the gap and
their energy heats the walls of the gap. The other photons pass right
Interesting: Rossi canno obtain COP 6 without melting the rector!
2013/5/20 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
I sent a note to Andrea:
I am especially pleased to see this in an open source library. I think I
will copy it to LENR-CANR.org. Please tell Prof. Levi I intend to to that,
if
Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote:
Interesting: Rossi canno obtain COP 6 without melting the rector!
Perhaps with this device that is the case, but with previous reactors he
often obtained much better ratios, and an infinite ratio, with no input. On
Oct. 7, 2011, he ran for 4 hours
This is instantaneous COP. Sometimes, it has to be ignited. So, it is not
really infinite.
2013/5/20 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com
Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote:
Interesting: Rossi canno obtain COP 6 without melting the rector!
Perhaps with this device that is the case,
Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote:
This is instantaneous COP. Sometimes, it has to be ignited. So, it is not
really infinite.
Naturally. But that is true of any energy device. Even a thermonuclear bomb
has to be ignited or triggered with electricity, which triggers a chemical
explosion,
Fran, I combined your two responses.
As I understand, an attraction is measured between two materials,
which is sensitive to the kind of material and the distance between
them. That is the only observation on which this complex theory is
based. Chemical attraction is known to occur, but
COP of a watercooled reactor will be higher, it's just a matter of
efficiently pull the heat out of the powder.
In this particular set of tests no watercooling has been applied, only air
cooling.
On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 4:00 PM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote:
This is instantaneous
On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 6:06 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
This is one of the most important papers in the history of the field.
We should be patient -- I don't think it's been out long enough to receive
full scrutiny, so there might be some methodological flaw that is turned
They will now do a 6 month test, heh!
2013/5/20 Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com
On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 6:06 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.comwrote:
We should be patient -- I don't think it's been out long enough to receive
full scrutiny, so there might be some methodological flaw
Begin forwarded message:
From: Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com
Date: May 20, 2013 9:11:57 AM MDT
To: c...@googlegroups.com
Cc: Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com
Subject: Re: CMNS: Rossi's 3rd party test released:
Before we get too excited. I think two questions need to be answered.
1.
Before we get too excited. I think two questions need to be answered.
1. When was the calibration done and under what conditions. The
amount of heat being radiated depends on the value of the effective
total emissivity of the surface. This value will change with time and
temperature.
Updated Ragone Plot --- for the March test
Power density = (4.4 ± 0.4) · 10^5 [W/kg] (34)
Energy density = (5.1 ± 0.5) · 10^7 [Wh/kg] (35)
http://lenr.qumbu.com/ragone_lawrenceliv_ecat_130520.png
(Note that the axes are reversed from the version used in the paper.)
I got it from
From: Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 8:09:29 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:3rd Party Report Released
Before we get too excited.
My biggest concern is with the resistive blank test.
They should have done TWO blank runs
a) (Which they did) -- run the resistor
It is great news that Rossi has found positive results according to the third
party testers. I have been following his work for a couple of years and put
together a model that I have discussed on this list on many occasions.
I was very pleased at the appearance of the time domain temperature
From: Jed Rothwell
Three cheers for Andrea Rossi!!!
You have to give the man credit. He can be very annoying
some times, but at other times he comes through like no one else in this
field.
Don't bring out the pom-poms just yet -
This is the second copy of this message. I think the first one failed to
go through. Ed Storms tells me that his message are also bouncing
frequently. This is frustrating, given all the excitement.
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
In Swedish, but Google translate does an amazing job
Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote:
Before we get too excited. I think two questions need to be answered.
1. When was the calibration done and under what conditions.
I do not see what difference it makes when it was done. Anyway, it was
after the hot run. The procedure is described in
Rossi has recently stated in JONP that local hot spots in its reactor were
the main issue. If a spot come to a certain upper threshold, the reactor
goes out of control. The keys are uniformity of heat production inside the
eCat and equal density of energy extraction along the entire surface. The
Vortex bouncing messages from me and Ed Storms. eskimo.com has it in for us!
- Jed
Kudos to A. Rossi for this huge step forward in validation of his work!
One thing in the report that I find incredible was the amount of fuel that
was measured by cutting open the inner cylinder and dumping out the
catalyst-fuel - supposedly only 0.6g. This is a tiny amount of nickel
powder.
Dear Ed,
Your arguments here have great success, our dear Mary Yugo is using
them in her comments for annihilating this report.
I think you as NAE expert are focusing on the second idea.
1- is true indeed. The total emissivity changes as evrything changes but
how great must be these changes in
From the report, an interesting explanation of testing delays:
The tests held in December 2012 and March 2013 are in fact subsequent to a
previous attempt in November 2012 to make accurate measurements on a
similar model of the
*E-Cat HT *on the same premises. In that experiment the device was
If I had Rossi’s ear, I would tell him to install a lithium based heat pipe
to distribute the heat produced by the nickel powder in a isothermal mode
as those types of pipes are disposed to do.
Furthermore, the heat pipe can vary heat dissipation under thermostatic
control to keep the thermal
Is your biggest concern, then, quantitative rather than qualitative? (ie:
You are convinced that they measured excess heat but are concerned about
the degree of accuracy with which excess heat was measured.) It seems this
must be the conclusion from the first of the two, proposed, blank runs
Another point, Bob - the low amount of fuel is consistent with the main
patent claim for the use of an enriched isotope of Ni-62.
An enriched isotope would be expensive, even if Rossi has found a way to
enrich it himself. If he had bought .6 gram from Goodfellows it would have
set him back
On May 20, 2013, at 2:50, Alan Fletcher a...@well.com wrote:
(Gee whiz : the COP came out the way we calculated it!)
Very impressive location on the chart. But if I may now move the goalposts:
that kind of energy density will never power a warp drive.
Eric
Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
This is one of the most important papers in the history of the field.
We should be patient -- I don't think it's been out long enough to receive
full scrutiny, so there might be some methodological flaw that is turned up.
I doubt there is a
Two things are clear:
1) The E-Cat HT paper will not have a proximate effect on the academic
discourse, as it is not independently peer-reviewed and published.
2) The pseudo-skeptics have long-ago lost the academic discourse -- having
abandoned any participation in the peer-reviewed
Final Plot -- based on the igure in the paper
http://lenr.qumbu.com/130520_ragone_01.png
James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:
The proximate significance of this paper, therefore, is now outside of
academic discourse entirely and threatens the stability of the media and
political echo-chamber. How? Because this is a commercial device and
rational evaluation of the paper is
This is one of the most important papers in the history of the field.
***I agree. Here's the primary takeaway:
Even by the most conservative assumptions as to the errors in the
measurements, the result is still one order of magnitude greater than
conventional energy sources.
That means Rossi
That's nifty! Thanks.
This is Fig. 9 from the paper, expanded to fit their data.
- Jed
You have to admire the bravery of the scientists that ran these tests and
put out this paper. The enemies of the ideas that they purport to verify
will try to destroy them.
How much faith that one puts in a test is usually determined by the faith
that one has in the people who ran the test.
If a
There might be a dozen reasons why NOT water flow calorimetry, but the
big thing here is, why bother?
They get a torrent of heat, /easily/ shown by IR to be far, far more
than any that accepted science can explain away, and you want that last
decimal place?
The question that was answered
In Swedish, but Google translate does an amazing job translating it:
http://www.nyteknik.se/nyheter/energi_miljo/energi/article3697489.ece
(I wish Google worked this well for Japanese.)
Two pathological skeptics weigh in with evasions and weasel words:
Goran Eriksson, professor of applied
Or the sintering temperature promotes the reaction instead of destroying it.
Harry
On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 1:12 PM, Bob Higgins rj.bob.higg...@gmail.comwrote:
Kudos to A. Rossi for this huge step forward in validation of his work!
One thing in the report that I find incredible was the
David L Babcock ol...@rochester.rr.com wrote:
There might be a dozen reasons why NOT water flow calorimetry, but the big
thing here is, why bother?
I can think of some very good reasons not to do water flow calorimetry. At
these temperatures and power levels, it would be dangerous. Also
Can you suggest a caption (with the cite of the original in smaller type), eg
Indication of anomalous heat energy production in a reactor device
containing hydrogen loaded nickel powder, Levi et al.
Fig 9 expanded to show the Ragone plot of the eCat test, March 2013.
- Original Message
A good solution to the thermal run away problem will be difficult to achieve.
It is imperative that the heat source material reach an unstable mode if
controllable high gain is required. The direction of the temperature response
must be reversed at the proper time in order to prevent total
This is symptomatic of what I mean when I say this is entirely outside the
realm of academic discourse.
The psychology of the academic is that the engineering of the experimental
apparatus is entirely under his control -- hence one would, of course,
design the heat source to be compatible with
No matter what is said, Yugo and others will distort the comments to
agree with their belief. If we accept Rossi, we are stupid and
deceived. If we criticize Rossi, this is used to show that Rossi is
wrong. They do not even attempt to understand what part of a claim may
be real. They
Debunkers will say water flow calorimetry conceals a trick.
Harry
On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 4:31 PM, David L Babcock ol...@rochester.rr.comwrote:
There might be a dozen reasons why NOT water flow calorimetry, but the
big thing here is, why bother?
They get a torrent of heat, *easily* shown
Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote:
However, given the importance and the skepticism, I would have expected a
thermocouple would have been placed on the device to check the measured
temperature.
They did that. See p. 18, QUOTE:
Various dots were applied to the dummy as well. A
Well, give Rossi his due:
He did prematurely sell the low temperature 1MW system -- scare quotes
indicating that it is entirely rational for a customer with serious heat
needs to participate in what amounts to conventional technical risk of
product introduction.
What I find puzzling, however, is
On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 12:46 PM, Arnaud Kodeck arnaud.kod...@lakoco.bewrote:
Rossi has recently stated in JONP that local hot spots in its reactor were
the main issue. If a spot come to a certain upper threshold, the reactor
goes out of control.
Does anyone know what happens when Rossi's
It just stops working.
On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 4:17 PM, Mark Gibbs mgi...@gibbs.com wrote:
On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 12:46 PM, Arnaud Kodeck
arnaud.kod...@lakoco.bewrote:
Rossi has recently stated in JONP that local hot spots in its reactor
were the main issue. If a spot come to a certain
Alan, can you also put in a conventional nuclear reactor used for Electrical
power?
Use the nuclear radiation symbol for traditional nuclear power!
That would pretty much be the picture that is worth a thousand words.
-mark
-Original Message-
From: Alan Fletcher [mailto:a...@well.com]
The article make the buzz worldwide, as if there was many
lurkers entrenched and waiting for real news (would be rational).
there is already people prepared to oil the revolution...
http://www.lenr-forum.com/showthread.php?1514-LENR-Cities-to-propose-it-s-project-to-Neuchatel-(Switzerland)
From Rossi statements, the powder melts and the reactor stops working.
_
From: mark.gi...@gmail.com [mailto:mark.gi...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Mark
Gibbs
Sent: lundi 20 mai 2013 23:17
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]: ECAT Time Domain Response
Does anyone know what happens
The local wrinkle in spacetime and gravitational field also smooths back
out...:)
On Monday, May 20, 2013, Arnaud Kodeck wrote:
**
From Rossi statements, the powder melts and the reactor stops working.
** **
--
*From:* mark.gi...@gmail.com
From: MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 2:22:22 PM
Alan, can you also put in a conventional nuclear reactor used for
Electrical power?
Use the nuclear radiation symbol for traditional nuclear power!
That would pretty much be the picture that is worth a thousand
James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:
For the essentially zero risk of putting in escrow one third of the price
of a 1MW system -- information worth billions of dollars in futures markets
alone at essentially zero cost by taking Rossi up on his offer of allowing
your techs full access to run
From the report, an interesting explanation :
The tests held in December 2012 and March 2013 are in fact subsequent to a
previous attempt in November 2012 to make accurate measurements on a
similar model of the
*E-Cat HT *on the same premises. In that experiment the device was
destroyed in
Mark Gibbs mgi...@gibbs.com wrote:
Does anyone know what happens when Rossi's reactor goes out of control?
Does it melt down or just stop working?
It melts. Rossi says it is perfectly safe, but this report says:
The tests held in December 2012 and March 2013 are in fact subsequent to a
Gibbs asked about melt down which has a particular meaning in the context
of nuclear reactors. Clearly, the E-Cat does not, in this meaning, melt
down.
On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 4:50 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Mark Gibbs mgi...@gibbs.com wrote:
Does anyone know what
James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:
Gibbs asked about melt down which has a particular meaning in the context
of nuclear reactors. Clearly, the E-Cat does not, in this meaning, melt
down.
Oh Yes It Does.
Quite remarkable considering there is only 283 W of input power. Anyone who
has
Telegraph across the continental US was completed in 1861, bringing an end
to the Pony Express.
The difference between now and back then is that news gets disseminated to
the *global masses* in seconds; not weeks or months if trying to send it
oversees. In a heartbeat, hundreds of millions of
Let's be clear then:
The important consideration is the business risk of the event and melt
down has a business risk characterized by the destruction not only of the
capital investment but substantial externalities such as radioactive
environmental pollution damages in the billions of dollars.
Alan:
Why did you never address the H2O2 fake on your website?
How to Prove that the Rossi/Focardi eCAT LENR is Real
Alan Fletcher
Version 3.14, April 6, 2011
http://lenr.qumbu.com/fake_rossi_ecat_v314.php
On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 1:20 PM, Alan Fletcher a...@well.com wrote:
Final Plot
Looking at this paper on the cost components of coal fired power plants:
http://cedm.epp.cmu.edu/files/workingpapers/Trancik-Coal_Energy_Policy.pdf
it is clear that although the capital service cost remains, and represents
50% of the delivered electrical cost, an appropriately engineered drop-in
From: Alain Sepeda
The article makes the buzz worldwide, as if there was many lurkers
entrenched and waiting for real news (would be rational). there is already
people prepared to oil the revolution...
Speaking of oil - when you think about the big picture and look for the
potential
James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:
The important consideration is the business risk of the event and melt
down has a business risk characterized by the destruction not only of the
capital investment but substantial externalities such as radioactive
environmental pollution damages in the
Jed, it is often grand fascinating to read your take on history.
We will have to buy many politicians. It is a small price to pay.
***From your characterizations of Rossi, I think perhaps he is not willing
to pay this price. He has customers, he will sell to them until it becomes
so
Gravity
[edithttp://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Isotope_separationaction=editsection=11
]
Isotopes of Carbon, Oxygen, and Nitrogen can be purified by chilling these
gases or compounds nearly to their liquification temperature in very tall
columns (200 to 700 feet tall—70 to 200 meters).
Rossi Vindicated? E-Cat Tested by Third Party Investigation
http://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/Rossi-Vindicated-E-Cat-Tested-by-Third-Party-Investigation.html
Harry
The candidate who wishes to become the next in line after Obama would be
wise to get on this bandwagon at an early stage. However, that candidate
will probably have to stand up against Big Oil, early-on - since any
expedited effort to get LENR into production will hurt hat industry
eventually but
The important consideration is the business risk of the event and melt
down has a business risk characterized by the destruction not only of the
capital investment but substantial externalities such as radioactive
environmental pollution damages in the billions of dollars.
***Based upon what I
So, in run away mode the reactor can do/always does emit radiation (of what
type? X-rays and/or gamma?) is it possible that the casing of the reactor
and the other components would not become radioactive? Is there any
information as to what type of detector Celani used? If the spectators at
the
DGT's ICCF17 paper suggests that enrichment is not needed:
We realized also that Ni58, Ni60, Ni62and Ni64 stable isotopes where
“willing” to participate in a LENR reaction, whilst Ni61 was not. So there
was no need for any costly enrichment method.
Ni58 is 68% of the natural metal while Ni60 is
From: Franco Talari
DGT's ICCF17 paper suggests that enrichment is not needed:
We realized also that Ni58, Ni60, Ni62and Ni64 stable isotopes where
willing to participate in a LENR reaction, whilst Ni61 was not. So there
was no need for any costly enrichment method.
But DGT has never
No one knows, because the only guy with the data (Rossi) is so secretive.
And all of us can understand why.
The best available evidence suggests that there is a danger of radioactive
release. But that will be stepped over like the local republican Roman
children who complained when Julius Caesar
This is a non issue. Rossi has been known to make statements that are designed
to confuse competitors and I suspect that the radiation was one of those. I
am not aware of anyone measuring levels of radiation that are dangerous during
nickel-hydrogen reactions.
It will be wise to take time
Rossi could have stumbled on a simple way like cryogenic distillation -
who knows?
More likely, he gets it from ENEA Frascati - using Focardi's connections.
From: James Bowery
Isotopes of Carbon, Oxygen, and Nitrogen can be purified by chilling these
gases or compounds nearly to
Not necessarily during runaway mode, but startup mode.
I predict that as COP increases, this effect will increase. It is a
double-edged sword.
On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 5:07 PM, Mark Gibbs mgi...@gibbs.com wrote:
So, in run away mode the reactor can do/always does emit radiation (of
what
I am not aware of anyone measuring levels of radiation that are dangerous
during nickel-hydrogen reactions.
***According to Jed Rothwell, Celani did exactly that kind of measurement
during startup.
On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 5:52 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
This is a non issue.
On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 8:45 PM, Brad Lowe ecatbuil...@gmail.com wrote:
Available here:
http://arxiv.org/abs/1305.3913
After reading the report pretty closely, I am cautiously optimistic that
things are proceeding very well. There were things that made me think that
the report was not exactly
I just read this paper for the third time. This is a gem. These people
think and write like engineers rather than scientists. That is a complement
coming from me. They dot every i and cross every t. I can't think of a
single thing I wish they had checked but did not.
In ever instance, their
I've been seen some blogs that reported this paper. The most popular
argument is that all this is a falsification for a scam.
2013/5/20 Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com
On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 8:45 PM, Brad Lowe ecatbuil...@gmail.com wrote:
Available here:
http://arxiv.org/abs/1305.3913
Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote:
I've been seen some blogs that reported this paper. The most popular
argument is that all this is a falsification for a scam.
Naturally that is what they say. That is what they always say. So, there
are now several new scientists from Uppsala U. taking
On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 3:27 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
…that is going to be our collective curse, or opportunity …depending on a
few political decisions soon to be on the horizon.
Yes -- this is an interesting thought. Assume for the moment that Rossi
comes through and we
On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 11:54 AM, Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com wrote:
1- is true indeed. The total emissivity changes as evrything changes but
how great must be these changes in order to invalidate completely the
results, so we can say NO excess heat, the authors are in total error? Very
Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com wrote:
I am not aware of anyone measuring levels of radiation that are dangerous
during nickel-hydrogen reactions.
***According to Jed Rothwell, Celani did exactly that kind of measurement
during startup.
According to Celani he did, in 2011, when that large
I agree Jed. They did this the right way and it will be difficult for anyone
to prove otherwise.
You mention the cooling time shape not being that associated with normal
processes which agrees with the model that I constructed earlier. In an ideal
world with a very high COP the cooling
Reference:
http://newenergytimes.com/v2/conferences/2012/ICCF17/ICCF-17-Hadjichristos-Technical-Characteristics-Paper.pdf
Please explain how the DGT process produces twice as much nickel than their
reactor originally contains given your conjecture about NI62.
The test starts out with
In reply to Alan Fletcher's message of Mon, 20 May 2013 13:20:06 -0700 (PDT):
Hi,
[snip]
Final Plot -- based on the igure in the paper
http://lenr.qumbu.com/130520_ragone_01.png
I think the impact of this would be even greater on a linear rather than
logarithmic plot. :)
Regards,
Robin van
When the Rossi reactor was first developed, radiation was detected when the
reactor was cold. This happened at startup and shutdown.
Rossi fixed the problem by heating the reactor at startup above the
radiation temperature. He installed a secondary pre-heater if you remember.
He keeps the
Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
I wonder what the second set of calculations would look like with an
assumption of ε=1 -- since the COP was only ~2, perhaps it would get
uncomfortably close to 1 with full emissivity?
First of all, the COP wasn't ~2 it was ~2.6 +/- 0.5, with the
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