Re: [Vo]:Italian minor, sucess in cold fusion... any more info

2014-07-31 Thread Alain Sepeda
basically it is plasma in electrolytic cell, with H2O split by electrolysis, then H2 split by high current creating a plasma, and recombinating befause of high temperature. the question is whether the LENR reaction add some energy to the electric energy provided... it seems easy to make, but the

Re: [Vo]:Quora : anti Leviall circus on e-cat test

2014-07-31 Thread Alain Sepeda
yes (my quick answer was dond on my address, not on the vortex reflecto), it is an old news... just some recent void answer ... what is fascinating is the double standard in pinpointing details, beside not understanding the problem of magnitude. it is typical pseudo-science, conspiracy theory,

RE: [Vo]:Heat dissipation is a MINOR engineering issue in the Suncell.

2014-07-31 Thread Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson
From Eric: The intensity of the emitted light sounds dangerous to me. Consider that a fresnel lense can easily be used to start a fire with one sun (in contrast to 10,000 suns). If the number is accurate, there may be military applications. See Blacklight’s June 25, 2014 Second

[Vo]:The Little Engine That Could

2014-07-31 Thread Steve High
A new video of the SHT hydrogen generator in action. Scroll Down http://peswiki.com/index.php/Free_Energy_Blog:2014:07:28#SHT_provides_video_of_hydrogen_production_during_TRC_3rd-party_test

Re: [Vo]:The Little Engine That Could

2014-07-31 Thread ChemE Stewart
And to think all that from a BBQ grill... On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 10:32 AM, Steve High diamondweb...@gmail.com wrote: A new video of the SHT hydrogen generator in action. Scroll Down

RE: [Vo]:Heat dissipation is a MINOR engineering issue in the SunCell.

2014-07-31 Thread Jones Beene
From: Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson a Fresnel lens can easily be used to start a fire with one sun (in contrast to 10,000 suns). If the number is accurate, there may be military applications. See Blacklight’s June 25, 2014 Second Public Demonstration - http://vimeo.com/99500674

[Vo]:Wired: Nasa validates 'impossible' space drive

2014-07-31 Thread Eric Walker
See: http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2014-07/31/nasa-validates-impossible-space-drive Eric

Re: [Vo]:Wired: Nasa validates 'impossible' space drive

2014-07-31 Thread Axil Axil
The Ni/H reactor produces prodigious amounts of RF. This level of production could even be increased by adding NMR active materials to the structure of the reactor. This current disadvantage in Ni/H technology might well be turned into an important feature. The Ni/H reaction could provide a direct

Re: [Vo]:Wired: Nasa validates 'impossible' space drive

2014-07-31 Thread leaking pen
Okay, so can we get them to test the emDrive now? On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 11:22 AM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote: See: http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2014-07/31/nasa-validates-impossible-space-drive Eric

Re: [Vo]:Wired: Nasa validates 'impossible' space drive

2014-07-31 Thread David Roberson
Of course microwave RF energy is a form of electrical power. Dave -Original Message- From: Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, Jul 31, 2014 3:46 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Wired: Nasa validates 'impossible' space drive The Ni/H reactor produces

Re: [Vo]:Wired: Nasa validates 'impossible' space drive

2014-07-31 Thread David Roberson
I have a hangup about the conservation of momentum that makes me skeptical of this device. My guess is that the thrust will be shown to be an error once everything is taken into account. The power to generate the large amount of RF must enter the device from somewhere and that is likely the

Re: [Vo]:Wired: Nasa validates 'impossible' space drive

2014-07-31 Thread leaking pen
Dave, according to teh article they separated the power source and drive to make sure that wasnt teh case. On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 2:45 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: I have a hangup about the conservation of momentum that makes me skeptical of this device. My guess is that

Re: [Vo]:Wired: Nasa validates 'impossible' space drive

2014-07-31 Thread Ron Wormus
Axil, Is there any data to backup your prodigious RF statement of fact? Spectrum analyzer etc. Ron --On Thursday, July 31, 2014 3:45 PM -0400 Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: The Ni/H reactor produces prodigious amounts of RF. This level of production could even be increased by adding

Re: [Vo]:Personal observataions about the part two BLP July 21 video

2014-07-31 Thread mixent
In reply to James Bowery's message of Tue, 29 Jul 2014 22:10:04 -0500: Hi, [snip] Perhaps I should restate the 2 miracles along a slightly different axis: 1) If one adopts Storms's viewpoint, there is no scientific revolution -- merely a different interpretation of accepted theory. So the

Re: [Vo]:Wired: Nasa validates 'impossible' space drive

2014-07-31 Thread Alain Sepeda
this is the 3rd test, done with different metrology, and with many cross checking documented on EmDrive (like changing turn...) as Ed Storms says in his books, when a phenomenon survive to the change of the measurement setup(shawyer, chinese, nasa), and is similar in different setup(emdirve,

RE: [Vo]:Wired: Nasa validates 'impossible' space drive

2014-07-31 Thread Jones Beene
There is an intriguing cross-connection between two other controversial lines of anti-gravity experiment: Eugene Podkletnov (mentioned in the Wired article) and Claude Poher (not mentioned). Here is a review of Poher’s superconductor. http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1101/1101.2419.pdf NASA has

RE: [Vo]:Heat dissipation is a MINOR engineering issue in the SunCell.

2014-07-31 Thread Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson
Jones I suspect possess the same affliction that I suffer from: OAIS * * OverActive Imagination Syndrome. It has its advantages and disadvantages. You have my sympathies. ;-) Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson svjart.orionworks.com zazzle.com/orionworks

Re: [Vo]:Wired: Nasa validates 'impossible' space drive

2014-07-31 Thread Alan Fletcher
At 01:16 PM 7/31/2014, you wrote: Okay, so can we get them to test the emDrive now? They tested the Cannae version (as reported by Wired) -- 40 micronewton at 28W , but ALSO a tapered version, which is an emDrive -- 91 micronewton at 17W. See page 1 of the Nasa paper

Re: [Vo]:Wired: Nasa validates 'impossible' space drive

2014-07-31 Thread Axil Axil
The Eugene Podkletnov anti gravity theory is based on rotating magnetic fields. The connection might be that RF is produced by rotating electrons. The microwave vibrations will induce spin rotation in the matter that fills space and that might include the spins of virtual particles emerging from

Re: [Vo]:Personal observataions about the part two BLP July 21 video

2014-07-31 Thread James Bowery
On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 5:25 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: In reply to James Bowery's message of Tue, 29 Jul 2014 22:10:04 -0500: Hi, [snip] Perhaps I should restate the 2 miracles along a slightly different axis: 1) If one adopts Storms's viewpoint, there is no scientific revolution --

Re: [Vo]:Wired: Nasa validates 'impossible' space drive

2014-07-31 Thread Kevin O'Malley
Well, since we're talking about NASA impossible space drives... Excerpt of heavily encrypted PDF file Proposal by Quantum Potential Corporation in response to 2011 NASA http://www.quantum-potential.com/ACT%20NASA.pdf NASA, U.S. Navy and U.S. Air Force have commissioned a number of interesting

Re: [Vo]:Quora : anti Leviall circus on e-cat test

2014-07-31 Thread Kevin O'Malley
On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 6:05 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: I just wanted to help those uninformed posters to understand LENR, and I was banned from the Quora forum. ***No good deed ever goes unpunished.

Re: [Vo]:Wired: Nasa validates 'impossible' space drive

2014-07-31 Thread Eric Walker
On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 4:54 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: NASA has reportedly confirmed an effect of reactionless acceleration with Poher’s device ... I have to hand it to groups at NASA for being relatively independent of the opinion of the physics mainstream. Apparently there

Re: [Vo]:Wired: Nasa validates 'impossible' space drive

2014-07-31 Thread Lennart Thornros
Whithout any technical knowledge I agree with you Eric. I wonder how they could keep the good spirit in this big organization once Lwerner Brown and Na8sa was the same, was that how much he colored the culture as he was certaily a contrarian. On Jul 31, 2014 8:31 PM, Eric Walker

Re: [Vo]:Personal observataions about the part two BLP July 21 video

2014-07-31 Thread mixent
In reply to James Bowery's message of Thu, 31 Jul 2014 20:07:18 -0500: Hi, [snip] No of course a Newton, Maxwell, etc comes along once a century or so. That's not what I'm talking about. Its more like someone accidentally discovers steam power but can't really reproduce it because Newton's laws

Re: [Vo]:The Little Engine That Could

2014-07-31 Thread Eric Walker
On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 7:32 AM, Steve High diamondweb...@gmail.com wrote: http://peswiki.com/index.php/Free_Energy_Blog:2014:07:28#SHT_provides_video_of_hydrogen_production_during_TRC_3rd-party_test Note that the nuclear binding energy of oxygen is ~ 7.7 MeV (the amount you would need to

Re: [Vo]:Personal observataions about the part two BLP July 21 video

2014-07-31 Thread James Bowery
On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 11:22 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: It's actually the other way around. Mills came up with the theory first, then started looking for ways to realize practical benefits from it. Ah! Then that is a start on an answer to my request for a chronology stated in my prior