Re: [Vo]:a note from Dr. Stoyan Sargoytchev

2014-02-03 Thread Bob Cook
phenomena have differing causes--the issue is in what's apparent and what really is the cause. I tend to agree with Axil. His comment that if you look deep enough (the picture will make sense) is the basis for scientific investigation. Bob Cook (Stalecookie) (My first response to this blog

Re: [Vo]:Magnetism doesn't exist

2014-02-04 Thread Bob Cook
Harry-- A photon--light is thought to be an electric field and an orthogonal magnetic field which oscillate with an amplitude and frequency characteristic of the energy of the photon, and propagate through space empty space at the speed of light c. There is no charge that creates the magnetic

Re: [Vo]:a note from Dr. Stoyan Sargoytchev

2014-02-05 Thread Bob Cook
Dave-- I suspect that most of the theory is Yeong Kim's and the experimental description is from John Hadjichristos of DGT. Kim had proposed the BEC idea some time ago. I find Kim's theory quite reasonable. The ability to predict the rate of reactions is significant and the importance

Re: [Vo]:a note from Dr. Stoyan Sargoytchev

2014-02-05 Thread Bob Cook
Dave-- One other idea is that the early failure of many of the P-F effect experiments did not pay attention to the magnetic field present in P-F's original experiment. Hagelstein's current lectures at MIT point this out indirectly by displaying the arrangement of the electrodes in the

Re: [Vo]:MIT Course Day 5 -- NiH Systems

2014-02-06 Thread Bob Cook
Alan-- I watched the Hagelstein 5th day lecture last night. With respect to the NiH system some of his optic and sonic coupling arguments went over my head. I did understand the electron shielding argument associated with overcoming the coulomb repulsion issue in the Ni matrix. Its not

Re: [Vo]:MIT Course Day 5 -- NiH Systems

2014-02-06 Thread Bob Cook
He-3. Bob - Original Message - From: H Veeder To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2014 1:47 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:MIT Course Day 5 -- NiH Systems On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 3:32 PM, Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com wrote: I would be surprised

Re: [Vo]:MIT Course Day 5 -- NiH Systems

2014-02-06 Thread Bob Cook
-Original Message- From: Bob Cook My thoughts : since H doesn't easily diffuse into Ni (Unlike D in Pd) it's more likely to be a surface effect. Perhaps - but misleading. Pure nickel is not a great proton conductor- and one must pay dearly to get pure nickel. But why? It takes only

Re: [Vo]:New Report from Attendee of MIT Cold Fusion Seminar

2014-02-06 Thread Bob Cook
Harry-- Frenchette--the new reporter of the MIT seminar, stated the following: In the case of nickel the hydrogen forms tight clusters. It does not occupy the voids in the lattice as in palladium. This may explain the higher temperatures which are observed with the Hot Cat. (my conjecture)

Re: [Vo]:MIT Course Day 5 -- NiH Systems

2014-02-07 Thread Bob Cook
, February 06, 2014 7:45 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:MIT Course Day 5 -- NiH Systems On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 2:26 PM, Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com wrote: Also I suspect that the nano Ni that is produced is pretty pure. That may be why Rossi uses it and may be the reason other researchers do

Re: EXTERNAL: RE: [Vo]:MIT Course Day 5 -- NiH Systems

2014-02-07 Thread Bob Cook
Bob--Bob Cook here Your comments are revealing. I believe quantum systems that are big enough to handle the energy fractionation that Hagelstein identifies in his lectures are a requirement for any solid state nuclear reaction. A thermal conductor to get the heat out is also necessary

Re: EXTERNAL: RE: [Vo]:MIT Course Day 5 -- NiH Systems

2014-02-07 Thread Bob Cook
Fran-- I agree fully. Bob Cook - Original Message - From: Roarty, Francis X To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, February 07, 2014 5:36 AM Subject: RE: EXTERNAL: RE: [Vo]:MIT Course Day 5 -- NiH Systems IMHO grain size and geometry of these other alloys as powders

Re: [Vo]:MIT Course Day 5 -- NiH Systems

2014-02-07 Thread Bob Cook
.) However, it would not be the first time I was wrong. A mentor once said it takes $1,000,000 worth of mistakes to make a good engineer, and that was in the late 60's. Luckily I do not have to worry about the issues Hagelstein and others make about my future career. Bob Cook - Original

Re: [Vo]:MIT Course Day 5 -- NiH Systems

2014-02-07 Thread Bob Cook
Ed--Bob Cook here-- Another question is if D is formed in the Ni-H system as you propose, why not the generation of He-4 as in the Pd system without the nasty fragmentation or fission of the Ni? The key to controlling the Rossi process maybe controlling the formation of D. The energy

Re: [Vo]:MIT Course Day 5 -- NiH Systems

2014-02-07 Thread Bob Cook
is a waste of time. Ed Storms On Feb 7, 2014, at 10:39 AM, Bob Cook wrote: Eric-- Your bring up some interesting questions about the Rossi reactor. The information I have included come from Rossi and Focardi's international patent application noted below. 1. Is Rossi

Re: [Vo]:Clarke describes the Internet in 1972

2014-02-07 Thread Bob Cook
Jed-- Thanks for the observations of Clarke--its is an optimistic observation as are many regarding LENR. The pessimistic ones don't seem to be coming up as often. Bob --an old optimist - Original Message - From: Jed Rothwell To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Friday,

Re: [Vo]:MIT Course Day 5 -- NiH Systems

2014-02-07 Thread Bob Cook
Ed--Bob Cook here Thanks for you response. I need a little more time to think about your ideas. I need to look at the respective products you identify and the likely other respective fission pieces to see if I agree with what you say makes sense. Just roughly thinking, I would expect

Re: [Vo]:MIT Course Day 5 -- NiH Systems

2014-02-07 Thread Bob Cook
Ed--Bob Cook here Spin states of a quantum system reflect the angular momentum of the system and hence the energy associated with that angular momentum. High spin quantum numbers reflect the higher energy of the system. The allowable states are quantized. In magnetic fields the direction

Re: [Vo]:So close but so far away ... or was it?

2014-02-07 Thread Bob Cook
Jones-- Bob Cook here-- I doubt there was no connection. I would guess the work at SPAWAR became a black project. LENR clearly has potential for ship propulsion and other high energy density fuel needs in the Navy. Bob Cook - Original Message - From: Jones Beene jone

Re: [Vo]:MIT Course Day 5 -- NiH Systems

2014-02-07 Thread Bob Cook
Eric--Bob Cook here-- It may be that laser radiation at selected frequencies could activate organic Ni compounds selectively based on the mass of the Ni isotope. The activation may be ionization or other molecular changes to increase or decrease solubility and the opportunity for separation

Re: [Vo]:MIT Course Day 5 -- NiH Systems

2014-02-07 Thread Bob Cook
: [Vo]:MIT Course Day 5 -- NiH Systems On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 9:54 PM, Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com wrote: I think you have the decay scheme for Ni-59 wrong. It has a 76,000 year half life and decays by electron capture as you said. It's good that you seem to know your way around

Re: [Vo]:MIT Course Day 5 -- NiH Systems

2014-02-07 Thread Bob Cook
Eric--Bob here I looked at the link and have now seen a list of cross sections for the Ni-59, P reaction. I must study the protocol for measuring the specified cross sections to understand the sig and dsig data. Off hand I do not understand these labels. My guess is that the energies listed

Re: [Vo]:MIT Course Day 5 -- NiH Systems

2014-02-08 Thread Bob Cook
you suggest for the splitting of Pd and Ni. A couple references would be good. When do you expect to finish your book on the subject? If you have a partial bibliography of references, maybe that would give me the pertinent leads. Bob Cook - Original Message - From: Edmund

Re: [Vo]:New German LENR Company

2014-02-08 Thread Bob Cook
Jones-- Why do you say the patent appears to be photoelectric? It seems to identify another way of loading a Pd or other metal with D or H or both at the surface of the metal and inducing solid state fusion of the loaded materials--probably D based on what the inventers say. Bob -

Re: [Vo]:New German LENR Company

2014-02-08 Thread Bob Cook
Eric---Bob here-- I agree with your assessment. However, it does imply fusion of D and in fact uses the term fusion. The following is a copy (translated from German with some mistakes) of the paragraph 12 of the patent : Particularly preferably, the cathode material has been found to

Re: [Vo]:MIT Course Day 5 -- NiH Systems

2014-02-08 Thread Bob Cook
Jones--Bob Cook here-- I saw that mention also and planned to follow up to address some of Ed concerns about it not being possible. Bob - Original Message - From: Jones Beene To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2014 9:24 AM Subject: RE: [Vo]:MIT Course

Re: [Vo]:MIT Course Day 5 -- NiH Systems

2014-02-08 Thread Bob Cook
Eric-- I agree with your observation about Jones and Ed. In their give and take just before this message I was not sure who was saying what. The symbol seemed to have no significance as to who was talking. Bob Cook - Original Message - From: Eric Walker To: vortex-l

Re: [Vo]:MIT Course Day 5 -- NiH Systems

2014-02-08 Thread Bob Cook
Eric, Jones and Ed--Bob Cook here-- Note that Pam Mosier Boss and Larry (the radiation count specialist consultant for SPAWAR) talked about the CR-39 scheme for monitoring radiation from the Pd-D system they worked with. (This was 2009 at the U of Mo.) They saw evidence of tritium, neutrons

Re: [Vo]:Spin this ...

2014-02-08 Thread Bob Cook
Foks0904, Brian and Jones--Bob Cook here-- Thanks for the reference to spin coupling. If electrons love to pair up in atoms because of spin coupling, why not protons in a metal lattice quantum system? Kim seems to think that D's with integral spin can get together at significant temperatures

Re: [Vo]:MIT Course Day 5 -- NiH Systems

2014-02-08 Thread Bob Cook
Bob Higgins--Bob Cook here-- I agree with your logic regarding 100% efficient fractionating as possible. As I noted in an earlier comment Mosier-Boss etal at SPAWAR saw two separate reactions, the one LENR with no radiation being D-D going to He-4. It was also the dominant reaction

Re: [Vo]:: RAR gravity engine

2014-02-08 Thread Bob Cook
A better scheme to extract energy from the Coriolis force is the spinning earth creates is to erect a windmill or your sailboat in the trade winds which are caused by this effect. Bob - Original Message - From: Blaze Spinnaker To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, February

Re: [Vo]:More Magnetic Coupling Thoughts

2014-02-08 Thread Bob Cook
Dave--Bob Cook here Pd has one of the highest magnetic susceptibility of any metal. The electrons line up in an applied field to establish a very large B field in the Pd matrix. The susceptibility determines the relative intensity of the internal and external magnetic fields. I am not sure

Re: [Vo]:Spin this ...

2014-02-09 Thread Bob Cook
Jones--Bob Cook here-- Your message rings true to me. Here are some additional comments and thoughts/conjectures. I first did NMR experiments in my senior year, 1961, at Ed's alma mater, and we were ever increasing the magnetic field to get better signals and absorption of RF input. GE

Re: [Vo]:Spin this ...

2014-02-09 Thread Bob Cook
Jones--Bob Cook here-- Good work.. Bob - Original Message - From: Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 11:36 AM Subject: RE: [Vo]:Spin this ... To backtrack from a post 3 months ago. The Rabi frequencies. We did not know what

Re: [Vo]:Increasing probability of Rossi being real upwards, to 35%

2014-02-09 Thread Bob Cook
Blaze-- I would not touch big oil with a 10 foot pole. Bob - Original Message - From: Blaze Spinnaker To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 11:29 AM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Increasing probability of Rossi being real upwards, to 35% Also, anyone notice that

Re: [Vo]:Spin this ...

2014-02-09 Thread Bob Cook
Lou-- Bob Cook here- Do you know if the Bose thermal bath that the second referenced report talks about is the same thing as a Bose -Einstein Condensate (BEC)? Bob - Original Message - From: pagnu...@htdconnect.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 11:16 AM

Re: [Vo]:: RAR gravity engine

2014-02-09 Thread Bob Cook
Nigel and Hoyt--Bob here-- I would say the trade winds are a good example of the extraction of energy from the rotation of the Earth. Heat certainly is generated and Man has used these winds to cross the oceans for years. Nigel, what is the external body in the case of trade winds that is

Re: [Vo]:Increasing probability of Rossi being real upwards, to 35%

2014-02-09 Thread Bob Cook
Blaze--Bob here-- I would not touch coal with a 20 foot pole. What about natural gas--does it have any future? Bob - Original Message - From: Blaze Spinnaker To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2014 2:38 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Increasing probability of Rossi

Re: [Vo]:More Magnetic Coupling Thoughts

2014-02-09 Thread Bob Cook
Jones--Bob Cook here-- I am not real up on what happens at the Curie point. Axil had some comments on that issue. It will take a little time to digest what you say below. However, I agree with your last sentence. The complexity includes the coupling with spin of all the particles

Re: [Vo]:Spin this ...

2014-02-09 Thread Bob Cook
Jones--Bob Cook here-- I know the Zeeman effect and studied it way back when. The Stark effect I am not familiar with, however it sounds like it splits an energy state of the quantum system to introduce different resonance frequencies as influenced by the local electric field. It may also

Re: [Vo]:Fusion by Pseudo-Particles

2014-02-10 Thread Bob Cook
Axil and Ed--Bob here-- Note that I assumed that electrons also were around when the 4 H reaction took place. The electrons react with the assembled system of particles to make neutrons as required to conserve spin in the reaction and to get to a low energy ground state consistent with an

Re: [Vo]:Increasing probability of Rossi being real upwards, to 35%

2014-02-10 Thread Bob Cook
Blaze--Bob here-- If you follow Rossi's blog, he has already considered the potential of Sterling engines. I agree with Bob Higgins that small is not bad. I could use one in my off-grid home in Alaska. Even a small thermo-electric device hooked to the NANOR would be useful. Bob -

Re: [Vo]:Energy and momentum / was RAR

2014-02-10 Thread Bob Cook
Harry and Dave--Bob Cook here-- Keep in mind that the law is that angular momentum must be conserved. However systems with angular momentum can also have significant energy that can be changed to heat. Take two planets in the solar system with direction of rotation in opposite directions

Re: [Vo]:Increasing probability of Rossi being real upwards, to 35%

2014-02-10 Thread Bob Cook
Jed etal--Bob Cook here-- I was impressed with Swartz's presentation on the 5th day of the MIT lectures series. He seems like a real enthusiastic researcher and inventor with a very significant invention, although small, based on a LENR process, whatever it turns out to be, The fact that he

[Vo]:Re: Energy and momentum / was RAR

2014-02-12 Thread Bob Cook
is always true. He also states that angular energy can be converted into other forms or energy including heat. Can you demonstrate a closed system where this is not the case? Dave -Original Message- From: Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Mon

[Vo]:Re: a note from Dr. Stoyan Sargoytchev

2014-02-13 Thread Bob Cook
Jones--Bob Cook Here-- Can you show how the p-e-p reaction as you understand it conserves spin? I would think that the newly fused particle, whatever it is, would have 1/2 or 3/2 spin--I do not know. If a positron is emitted, its spin would be -1/2 I think. That would make the new

[Vo]:Re: a note from Dr. Stoyan Sargoytchev

2014-02-13 Thread Bob Cook
. Ed Storms Sent from my iPad On Feb 12, 2014, at 3:00 PM, Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com wrote: Jones--Bob Cook Here-- Can you show how the p-e-p reaction as you understand it conserves spin? I would think that the newly fused particle, whatever it is, would have 1/2 or 3/2 spin--I do

[Vo]:Re: Fusion by Pseudo-Particles

2014-02-13 Thread Bob Cook
Axil—Bob Cook here-- I would note that the discussion in Wikipedia applies to a hydrogen molecular QM system. The individual protons retain their 1/2 spin. When a Hydrogen enters a matrix it may remain as a molecule or it may enter as an ion. If there is an ionization process available

[Vo]:Re: a note from Dr. Stoyan Sargoytchev

2014-02-13 Thread Bob Cook
Axil—Bob Cook here- That sounds possible from the spin part. How does the double proton form? I think the electrons and the two protons may all react in the QM Ni system at the same time ( 10 x e-18 sec.) Bob From: Axil Axil Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2014 9:54 AM To: vortex-l

[Vo]:Re: a note from Dr. Stoyan Sargoytchev

2014-02-13 Thread Bob Cook
Axil—Bob Cook Here— On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 10:07 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: I say in LENR that the double proton(spin 0) fusion happens then after this fusion occurs an electron (spin -1/2) capture comes next (reverse beta decay) the spin of 1/2 is removed by an electron

Re: [Vo]:Re: a note from Dr. Stoyan Sargoytchev

2014-02-13 Thread Bob Cook
Ed --Bob Here- I have assumed spin--angular momentum--is conserved. Are you saying forget about that conventional thinking--that angular momentum is not conserved in the lenr new nuclear process? Bob -Original Message- From: Bob Cook Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2014 6:52 AM

[Vo]:Re: a note from Dr. Stoyan Sargoytchev

2014-02-13 Thread Bob Cook
Dave—Bob Cook Here-- The electron neutrino may have high energy and 1/2 spin for sure. I think high energy electron neutrinos have be seen coming from the Sun. Bob From: David Roberson Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2014 7:20 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: a note from Dr

[Vo]:Re: The Rossi effect as an Inverted Mossbauer Effect

2014-02-17 Thread Bob Cook
Jones-- You sound like you must be Dan Brown in real life. Bob Cook -Original Message- From: Jones Beene Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2014 10:50 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:The Rossi effect as an Inverted Mossbauer Effect Dyslexic correction of previous post

[Vo]:Re: The Rossi effect as an Inverted Mossbauer Effect

2014-02-17 Thread Bob Cook
, February 17, 2014 7:45 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Re: The Rossi effect as an Inverted Mossbauer Effect -Original Message- From: Bob Cook Jones-- You sound like you must be Dan Brown in real life. Well, Bob - if I was getting royalties from Di Vinci code, they would go

[Vo]:Re: The Rossi effect as an Inverted Mossbauer Effect

2014-02-17 Thread Bob Cook
Beene Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 7:45 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Re: The Rossi effect as an Inverted Mossbauer Effect -Original Message- From: Bob Cook Jones-- You sound like you must be Dan Brown in real life. Well, Bob - if I was getting royalties from Di Vinci

[Vo]:Re: Slow quantum packets can tunnel thru high Coulomb barrier

2014-02-18 Thread Bob Cook
Axil—Is this just the uncertainty principle in action? Bob Cook From: Axil Axil Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 10:38 PM To: vortex-l Subject: Re: [Vo]:Slow quantum packets can tunnel thru high Coulomb barrier More... The spin produced by slow light will also be squeezed. When the position

[Vo]:Re: Slow quantum packets can tunnel thru high Coulomb barrier

2014-02-18 Thread Bob Cook
Axil- The squeezing of a H molecule or a proton inside a Ni body-centered cubic cell may change the angular momentum of the trapped entity and facilitate spin coupling with one or more different Ni nuclei, and transmutation to a lower energy, if such a state is available with the particles

[Vo]:Re: The Rossi effect as an Inverted Mossbauer Effect

2014-02-18 Thread Bob Cook
. It is still remote. _ Arnaud, First, off - I am not an expert in NMR and that is why I have been quizzing Bob Cook about a subject that came up as far back as 1990 - in an effort to explain the excess energy of LENR - and the lack of detectability of gamma

[Vo]:Re: The Rossi effect as an Inverted Mossbauer Effect

2014-02-18 Thread Bob Cook
the necessary energy to make a nuclear transition probable. Bob Cook -Original Message- From: Arnaud Kodeck Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2014 7:56 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Re: The Rossi effect as an Inverted Mossbauer Effect Ni61 is the only odd isotope of Ni

[Vo]:Re: MFMP starting work with nickel powder

2014-02-18 Thread Bob Cook
Jones-- The K could be a supplier of heavy eletrons per the W-L theory. I have no idea how its radioactive decay could influence a LENR, unless it were by the spectrum of lattice vibrations caused by the K-40 decay. Is the energy sufficient? The K-40 gamma may be degraded by the lose

[Vo]:Re: Dr. Stoyan Sarg steps up

2014-02-18 Thread Bob Cook
Alan-- Any good theory added freely to general understanding of LENR should make National news. Bob -Original Message- From: Alan Fletcher Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2014 10:41 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Dr. Stoyan Sarg steps up From: Blaze Spinnaker

Re: [Vo]:The Knight Field

2014-02-19 Thread Bob Cook
Jones and Axil-- Axil--Your link to Frydman is a great find—Note his bio below in the item you identified. His connections to the U of Mo and U of Ill is more than coincidence. Paired protons may be what enters the Ni matrix. A varying external magnetic field which creates a 0 B field in

[Vo]:Re: The Knight Field

2014-02-19 Thread Bob Cook
. The folks that worked with the Knight field may know the answers, having already done the experiment. Bob From: Jones Beene Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 8:15 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:The Knight Field From: Bob Cook Paired protons may be what enters the Ni matrix

Re: [Vo]:Curious paper from SLAC

2014-02-20 Thread Bob Cook
Jones-Axil, Ed, etal Check out the current (Feburary) issue of Scientific American--page 32--regarding the radius of the proton. Seems the wave functions overlap better than one might have concluded from old theory. The researchers have interesting connections to active long-term LENR

Re: [Vo]:The Chiral Magnetic Effect (CME)

2014-02-20 Thread Bob Cook
Axil-- How do you get wind of all these good items? Bob From: Axil Axil Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 9:10 PM To: vortex-l Subject: [Vo]:The Chiral Magnetic Effect (CME) http://physik.uni-graz.at/~dk-user/talks/Chernodub_25112013.pdf A 10^16 magnetic field will deconfine the quarks in

[Vo]:Re: Curious paper from SLAC

2014-02-21 Thread Bob Cook
Jones--nice work-- This is not to much different from my original guess as to the reaction of d-d in Pd matrix. Only I guessed the resulting He nucleus was excited in a high spin state and fractioned the energy by spin coupling to the other particles in the system. I did not know about

Re: [Vo]:Homopolar generators and the truth of magnetism

2014-02-24 Thread Bob Cook
John-- What does SR stand for or mean? Bob From: John Berry Sent: Friday, February 21, 2014 3:32 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: [Vo]:Homopolar generators and the truth of magnetism Here we go again... I have strongly argued that according to SR, magnetic fields occur due to relative

Re: [Vo]:Is there an echo in here?

2014-02-26 Thread Bob Cook
Jones--Bob here. Due to two emergent memes coming together at the same time, one wonders if Andrea Rossi was paid in Bitcoins :-) I do not think so. Bob - Original Message - From: Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 6:20 AM

Re: [Vo]:Is there an echo in here?

2014-02-26 Thread Bob Cook
Jones--Bob here. Due to two emergent memes coming together at the same time, one wonders if Andrea Rossi was paid in Bitcoins :-) I do not think so. Bob - Original Message - From: Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 6:20 AM

Re: [Vo]:BrightSource

2014-02-26 Thread Bob Cook
Jones--you wrote: The only way the USA could have achieved the same reliable nuclear program as France did is essentially with Socialism, and a national policy for nuclear. Having coal made that policy impossible here – so we did not do that, and now the cost of nuclear is through the roof.

Re: [Vo]:Is there an echo in here?

2014-02-26 Thread Bob Cook
Jones-- I make the same mistake frequently. Bob - Original Message - From: Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 8:02 AM Subject: RE: [Vo]:Is there an echo in here? -Original Message- From: Bob Cook Jones--Bob here

[Vo]:Re: BrightSource

2014-02-26 Thread Bob Cook
for the environment and safety of the people. I agree with your assessment completely. Bob Cook From: Alain Sepeda Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 11:52 AM To: Vortex List Subject: Re: [Vo]:BrightSource The socialism (some explain that Gaulism is right-winged socialism, a kind of paternalist

[Vo]:Re: Is there an echo in here?

2014-02-26 Thread Bob Cook
Jed-- What about gold? Bob From: Jed Rothwell Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 12:46 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Is there an echo in here? H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: If people stopped valuing flowers, the tulip bulb would cease to have value. True, but people

[Vo]:Re: Progress to date

2014-02-26 Thread Bob Cook
Fran and Axil-- Don’t forget the Chiral effect http://physik.uni-graz.at/~dk-user/talks/Chernodub_25112013.pdf a quote from the previous link: “In strong magnetic field quarks and antiquarks pair more effectively! S.P. Klevansky and R. H. Lemmer ('89); H. Suganuma and T. Tatsumi ('91) -

Re: [Vo]:Re: Progress to date

2014-02-27 Thread Bob Cook
virtual particles is the underlying cause for all catalytic action.. I guess my primary objection to Axils point is that he understated the importance of the geometry and the interaction to the magnetic field. Fran From: Bob Cook [mailto:frobertc...@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February

Re: [Vo]:My personal brilliant blunder

2014-02-27 Thread Bob Cook
Fran-- I am not sure I understand what Axil thinks was his blunder. Maybe he will explain further. Bob - Original Message - From: Roarty, Francis X To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2014 5:08 AM Subject: RE: [Vo]:My personal brilliant blunder VERY

Re: [Vo]:The elephant in the room,

2014-02-27 Thread Bob Cook
Ed-- You stated-- If the limitations imposed by chemistry are applied to what is actually observed, the explanation becomes much clearer. What limitations do you have in mind? Bob Cook - Original Message - From: Edmund Storms To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Cc: Edmund Storms Sent

Re: [Vo]:My personal brilliant blunder

2014-02-27 Thread Bob Cook
Fran-- On further reflection and careful reading, I do not think Axil considers he has blundered--only Mario. Mario's blog does not say boo about LENR as far as I can tell. He is interesting, nevertheless. Here is one of his statements: Some fallacies are very seductive, and avoiding them

Re: [Vo]:The elephant in the room,

2014-02-27 Thread Bob Cook
then manifest. Regards, John On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 1:55 PM, Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com wrote: Ed-- You stated-- If the limitations imposed by chemistry are applied to what is actually observed, the explanation becomes much clearer. What limitations do you

Re: [Vo]:The elephant in the room,

2014-02-27 Thread Bob Cook
Ed-- I agree with Axil. I just wrote some other comments regarding this item. They basically say the same thing about HUP and PEP. Bob - Original Message - From: Axil Axil To: vortex-l Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2014 8:06 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:The elephant in the room,

RE: [Vo]:The elephant in the room,

2014-02-28 Thread Bob Cook
Some background http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTaiIkQTmEc On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 10:15 AM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote: On Feb 27, 2014, at 9:45 PM, Bob Cook wrote: Ed-- You said-- Trying to fit QM to the lattice is a waste of time. I would note

RE: [Vo]:The elephant in the room,

2014-02-28 Thread Bob Cook
to LENR. Ed Storms Some background http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTaiIkQTmEc On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 10:15 AM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote: On Feb 27, 2014, at 9:45 PM, Bob Cook wrote: Ed-- You said-- Trying to fit QM

RE: [Vo]:The elephant in the room,

2014-02-28 Thread Bob Cook
On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 10:15 AM, Edmund Storms stor...@ix.netcom.com wrote: On Feb 27, 2014, at 9:45 PM, Bob Cook wrote: Ed-- You said-- Trying to fit QM to the lattice is a waste of time. I would note that the lattice is a QM system and, although complicated, obeys

RE: [Vo]:The elephant in the room,

2014-02-28 Thread Bob Cook
to the exclusion principle. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polariton On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 1:52 PM, Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com wrote: Axil-- Can the electrons pair up to form a Bose particle to avoid the PEP considering they are free electrons and not in a QM system where PEP acts? I am

Re: [Vo]:The elephant in the room,

2014-02-28 Thread Bob Cook
Axil-- How would you measure such a magnetic field inside a NCE? It must be deduced by other than direct measurement I would guess. However, if possible, it would be conclusive as to your soliton/crack idea. Bob - Original Message - From: Axil Axil To: vortex-l Sent:

Re: [Vo]:Continuous spin particles

2014-02-28 Thread Bob Cook
Axil-- Check this out--- http://phys.org/news/2014-02-hidden-electrons.html It sounds like pressure may make the electrons react with lattice of a metal oxide in an unusual way yet to be explained-- Bob - Original Message - From: Axil Axil To: vortex-l Sent: Friday,

Re: [Vo]:Continuous spin particles

2014-02-28 Thread Bob Cook
Axil-- Your next avocation or vocation should be science fiction writing or at least advising...also consider consulting for Hollywood. Bob - Original Message - From: Axil Axil To: vortex-l Sent: Friday, February 28, 2014 2:57 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Continuous spin particles

Re: [Vo]:The Dirty Dozen Basic routes to thermal gain for hydrogen in a lattice

2014-03-01 Thread Bob Cook
Jones Bob here-- You indicated the following: Chris did not mention SPP implying that he probably does not know of the plasmon polariton mechanism. It's too late now even though applications can be altered and augmented (but one loses priority). Has anyone you know mentioned SPP in a

Re: [Vo]:Christopher H. Cooper

2014-03-01 Thread Bob Cook
Fran and Jones-- Maybe they make a thin substrate ( that H diffuses through, gouge out a line with a laser beam or electron beam, lay in the nanotubes and then make layers of the nanotube filled substrate film, sandwich these between good heat conductors with high magnetic susceptibility and

Re: [Vo]:The Dirty Dozen Basic routes to thermal gain for hydrogen in a lattice

2014-03-01 Thread Bob Cook
Jones-- Thanks. Bob - Original Message - From: Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2014 9:26 AM Subject: RE: [Vo]:The Dirty Dozen Basic routes to thermal gain for hydrogen in a lattice -Original Message- From: Bob Cook Jones

Re: [Vo]:Christopher H. Cooper

2014-03-01 Thread Bob Cook
, are interesting. cheers, ken On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 10:10 AM, Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com wrote: Fran and Jones-- Maybe they make a thin substrate ( that H diffuses through, gouge out a line with a laser beam or electron beam, lay in the nanotubes and then make layers of the nanotube

Re: [Vo]:[OT] 740,000 Bitcoins Missing

2014-03-01 Thread Bob Cook
Terry-- Sounds like a good idea for the thief--steal the bitcoins, destroy them and increase the worth of the ones you have in another exchange. The ones that remain may be worth a lot more, or maybe nothing. It will be interesting to see what happens to bitcoin mining activity. Bob -

Re: [Vo]:The Dirty Dozen Basic routes to thermal gain for hydrogen in a lattice

2014-03-01 Thread Bob Cook
- From: Bob Cook Jones Bob here-- You indicated the following: Chris did not mention SPP implying that he probably does not know of the plasmon polariton mechanism. It's too late now even though applications can be altered and augmented (but one loses priority). Has anyone you know mentioned

Re: [Vo]:The Dirty Dozen Basic routes to thermal gain for hydrogen in a lattice

2014-03-01 Thread Bob Cook
Beene jone...@pacbell.net To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2014 9:26 AM Subject: RE: [Vo]:The Dirty Dozen Basic routes to thermal gain for hydrogen in a lattice -Original Message- From: Bob Cook Jones Bob here-- You indicated the following: Chris did not mention SPP

Re: [Vo]:The Dirty Dozen Basic routes to thermal gain for hydrogen in a lattice

2014-03-01 Thread Bob Cook
]:The Dirty Dozen Basic routes to thermal gain for hydrogen in a lattice -Original Message- From: Bob Cook Jones Bob here-- You indicated the following: Chris did not mention SPP implying that he probably does not know of the plasmon polariton mechanism. It's too late now even though

Re: [Vo]:Christopher H. Cooper

2014-03-01 Thread Bob Cook
Jones-- We may have to wait for Ed's book. Bob - Original Message - From: Jones Beene To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2014 1:20 PM Subject: RE: [Vo]:Christopher H. Cooper From: Edmund Storms Nice thought Kevin. Chris and I collaborated to

Re: [Vo]:Christopher H. Cooper

2014-03-01 Thread Bob Cook
Ed-- Regarding your comment copied from below--No amount of discussion about magnetic fields, hidden electrons, particle spin, etc is useful unless it can show exactly what needs to be done to cause the reaction to occur in the first place. --I agree. However, you seem to always take on a

Re: [Vo]:The Dirty Dozen Basic routes to thermal gain for hydrogen in a lattice

2014-03-01 Thread Bob Cook
are allowed in Europe, probably due to Brown's influence. -Original Message- From: Bob Cook Jones-- Refeerences used in Brown's 2007 paper are as follows: [1] G. Kurizki, A. Kofman, V.Yudson, Phys. Rev. A53 R35-R38 (1996). [2] J.Brown, arxiv.org/abs/cond-mat/0608292 [3] H.Krimmel, L

Re: [Vo]:[OT] 740,000 Bitcoins Missing

2014-03-01 Thread Bob Cook
Jed-- Who makes the 1% or more mark up on foreign currency exchanges anyway? Why is it not an exchange based on the current international rate with no markup for the common trader? It seems there may be a monopoly in that currency exchange business. Bob Cook - Original Message

Re: [Vo]:Christopher H. Cooper

2014-03-01 Thread Bob Cook
(1996). [3] Y. Todate, S.Ikeda, Y.Nakai, A. Agui, Y.Tominaga, J. Phys. Condens. Matt. 5 7761–7770 (1993). Bob Cook - Original Message - From: Edmund Storms To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Cc: Edmund Storms Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2014 3:13 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:Christopher H

Re: [Vo]:Kiev and Cold Fusion

2014-03-01 Thread Bob Cook
James and others-- The rumor has it that Industrial Heat, Rossi's underwriter, is negotiating with a Chinese Co to produce his reactors. It may or may not be true. Bob Cook - Original Message - From: Lennart Thornros To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2014 3

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