This link does not work. Want to try again?
It's in this list:
http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/files/
Craig
Manchester, NH
On Fri, 2011-07-15 at 16:17 -0400, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Harry Veeder wrote:
To be fair, in this report
I realize it's not that important in the big scheme of things, but I
wish you hadn't put 'backup' in the name. :)
Craig
On Tue, 2011-07-19 at 10:36 -0400, Terry Blanton wrote:
Is there anything against the creation of a Google Group instead?
Anyway, this is going either way to hugely affect
political equality between the genders. Realize now,
that if we are to move forward from a world based on violence, then we
must stop institutionalizing violence, and build a world with political
equality for everyone.
Craig Haynie
Redmond, WA.
On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 4:58 AM, Michael Ivanov ivanov...@gmail.com
wrote:
Any ideas? I heard about Ford, but could it be GE or GM?
The article is dated March 17.
Craig
On Mon, 2011-08-22 at 09:19 -0700, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint wrote:
The Rossi E-Cat finally made it into a (major?) news media here in the U.S.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/mar/17/nuclear-future-beyond-japan/
-M
It doesn't go down. The temperature falls to ~100.3C at 23:19:00 but
starts raising at 23:22:01 an slowly raises continuously until the data
collect is stooped at 23:29:07, with a temperature of 105C.
At 23:15:53 the temperature is 114. Then it begins dropping rapidly. I
am assuming this is when
On Tue, 2011-09-27 at 04:50 +0300, Jouni Valkonen wrote:
In pure and ideal basic income economy, all tax revenues are returned
to the markets boosting purchasing power of consumers, therefore
economic burden of taxes is zero and no one has no economic reasons to
oppose taxes.
—Jouni
I've been reading Passerini's tweets, and it looks like this eCat has
been running in self-sustained mode for about 4 hours now.
https://twitter.com/#!/22passi
Craig
[You have to paste the text into the Google translate box. It will not
autotranslate the page from the URL.]
If you use the Google Chrome Browser, you can right-click on the page
for a translation.
Craig
On Thu, 2011-10-06 at 10:05 -0700, Alan J Fletcher wrote:
At 09:19 AM 10/6/2011, Craig Haynie wrote:
I've been reading Passerini's tweets, and it looks like this eCat
has
been running in self-sustained mode for about 4 hours now.
https://twitter.com/#!/22passi
I make it not quite
22passi Daniel Passerini
At 19:00, after 4 hours in continuous self-sustaining mode, the reaction
has been interrupted as planned...
If confirmed, this should remove all doubt.
Woot...
Craig
On Thu, 2011-10-06 at 15:11 -0400, Terry Blanton wrote:
between 3 p.m. till 7 p.m. the temperature average delta has been of
5°C (water input/output) for 0,6 cubic meters per hour
According to the husband of the cute brunette. :-)
This is what I get.
0.6 cubic meters / hour = 600 liters /
This must be the secret sauce:
15:53 Power to the resistance was set to zero. A device “producing
frequencies” was switched on. Overall current 432 mA. Voltage 230 V.
Current through resistance was zero, voltage also zero. From this moment
the E-cat ran in self sustained mode
On Fri, 2011-10-07 at 08:59 -0400, vorl bek wrote:
Maybe the secret source was charging a battery for around 4
hours with an energy above 2KW coupled with some other kind of
auxiliary battery...
This test was almost as ludicrous as the Steorn waterways test.
There, they kept things
On Fri, 2011-10-07 at 09:01 -0500, Robert Leguillon wrote:
My Two Cents:
Whiskey. Tango. Foxtrot.
Most of the previous experimental problems were solved in this setup.
We could've seen measurable, stable, power gains completely unaffected
by phase-change or water overflow. We should
In any case, it is nonsensical that when power is cut that output
power quickly momentarily rises.
The electric heating power is apparently used to suppress the
reaction, not to enhance it. Others have observed that in some cases
when heater power is cut, anomalous heat rises rapidly. I
Deflalion indicates that they are ready for production.
http://www.defkalion-energy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4t=285
And it sounds like Rossi was using an older Defkalion design:
Today, Hyperion engineering has completed version 7. We were surprised
to see our old designs used in public
Interesting! Is there any indication of what the real time was then?
Was that during heat after death? If it was more than an hour into it,
that video image proves there is anomalous heat. It proves that all by
itself, in the absence of thermocouple readings or any other ordinary
This link goes to Kleiner Perkins for some strange reason. Weird!
It's not e-cat.com; it's ecat.com.
Craig
On Mon, 2011-10-10 at 23:07 -0700, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint wrote:
Why doesn't Mills FINISH JUST ONE PRODUCT AND GET IT TO MARKET!
He's like a little kid who gets 90% done with something and then gets bored
with it and is off to some new and challenging puzzle... never completing
what he starts.
Oh shoot!
I thought you meant Rossi.
Regarding Mills, I wholeheartedly agree. :) It's starting to lead me to
believe that something's not there.
Craig
On Tue, 2011-10-11 at 09:06 -0400, Craig Haynie wrote:
On Mon, 2011-10-10 at 23:07 -0700, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint wrote:
Why doesn't Mills
On Sun, 2011-10-16 at 14:38 -0400, Jed Rothwell wrote:
See:
http://slatest.slate.com/posts/2011/09/23/spontaneous_human_combustion_was_michael_faherty_cause_of_death_.html
I've seen this type of death debunked. The same effects seen -- where
the body is the only thing burnt, the body is
On Tue, 2011-10-18 at 09:58 -0500, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson wrote:
Rich sez:
Wolf! Wolf! wolf? wolf... WOOF! WOOF! WOOF!
If wolves don't say 'Woof! Woof!', then why are they called wolves?
Craig
On Tue, 2011-10-18 at 23:01 -0400, Jed Rothwell wrote:
David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:
I asked Mr. Rossi whether or not he has tested several ECATS
together in a moderate sized configuration to determine how
well they function as a team. He responded yes to
It was bad science when alchemists where trying to make gold, and claim they
can do this, claim they have done this, claim they will soon be able to do
this, taking money for this research, selling it, fighting other reasonable
theories like those of Lavoisier and others when they had
50: High input for the run. The run will be too short. There will be too
many unresolved variables. Same as always...
The easiest thing for me to believe is that he DOES have a working Ni-H
cold fusion method, but nothing will be proven until the device gets
into the hands of individual
from...
PESNetwork PES Network, Inc.
QA just finished; reading of results; 470 kW maintained continuously
during self-sustain; customer satisfied; sale made; more later.
On Sat, 2011-10-29 at 15:20 +0200, Mattia Rizzi wrote:
How can rossi had a permit if inside the nuclear site there isn’t even
a SINGLE “Nuclear Warning” panel?
Nuclear Warning Panel?
This is still an unknown phenomenon, and the idea that it's nuclear is
still speculation. It is not known to be
On Mon, 2011-10-31 at 10:02 +0100, Susan Gipp wrote:
Jed
try to google ivano marescotti. Have fun :)
Susy
It's not the same guy. :)
Craig
://www.youtube.com/user/kiholobay#p/u/2/N1m2wQevFAY
Craig Haynie
Manchester, NH
On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 8:44 AM, Robert Lynn
robert.gulliver.l...@gmail.com wrote:
Are there any recent reports of Ni-H LENR other than Rossi?
I know there was Brillouin back in March:
http://www.brillouinenergy.com
Allan hinted on his blog that an unnamed “customer” of Rossi's device
is a military organization that starts with an N. Rossi said this
customer measured and verified the test -- and told FoxNews.com that
Paul Swanson with the U.S. Navy’s Space and Naval Warfare Systems unit
(SPAWAR) can vouch for
Frank, I've just picked up that you have a theory on Cold Fusion. I
haven't been following this list very closely, so I'm slow I suppose.
But:
1) Have you published your ideas anywhere? Perhaps on the internet? Is
there a way for me to learn more of your theory?
2) Do your ideas explain any of
Hello Frank!
Have you seen this experiment:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delayed_choice_quantum_eraser
Even if the math can be explained with classical equations, I don't see
how a classical explanation can be forthcoming by analyzing the
experiment through the Transitional Quantum State.
Frank, (or anyone),
I can't find a reference to the 29.05 newtons which is the maximum force
exerted by two tightly packed protons. Can you walk me through the
calculation?
I've reviewed Lane's episode 20, but it doesn't explain it with enough
detail. I also found this equation by Frank on the
Frank, I find your idea interesting. I've worked through your basic
equations and have included them simply because I spent so much time on
them, I figured I should do something with them. :)
In the palladium lattice, when the molecules are stimulated such that
they are vibrating near the
Hello again Frank,
Check out this reference:
It is generally assumed that in free space the velocity of a
high-frequency gravitational wave (HFGW) is the same as that of light
and so the free space wavelength of an HFGW at 3GHz will be ~10cm. Li
and Torr have previously published calculations
experimental results which corroborate the theory;
experiments which have already been done where the results are not
understood. This would go a long way toward getting the theory accepted.
Craig
On Thu, 2010-12-02 at 10:22 -0500, Craig Haynie wrote:
Hello again Frank,
Check out this reference
Hello Frank!
This is becoming more exciting.
I'm reposting this because it didn't seem to come through the first
time.
Check out this reference:
It is generally assumed that in free space the velocity of a
high-frequency gravitational wave (HFGW) is the same as that of light
and so the free
to be 1094xxx meters / second, from the previous
reference.
Craig
On Thu, 2010-12-02 at 10:23 -0800, Jones Beene wrote:
-Original Message-
From: Craig Haynie
Conceptually, gravity traveling in a superconductor is essentially the
same thing as light traveling in the nucleus: it's
Here's another way to use Vt in a prediction. Because it looks as though
Vt can be used to derive Planck's Constant, then use Planck's Constant
to calculate a very accurate Vt. I don't know how accurate these other
variables have been measured, but presumably, they are far past the 4
significant
On Fri, 2010-12-03 at 09:23 -0800, Jones Beene wrote:
OK, let's backtrack. Apparently we are not on the same page yet.
In the spirit of KISS and simplicity, the internationally-accepted value of
the proton's charge radius is 0.8768 fm. Is there a valid reason to use
anything else?
If Vt
However, it looks to me as if they are calculating the value of 1.36e-15
as the effective proton radius, using Planck's Constant.
http://tinyurl.com/345cnr9
If anyone wants to help me read it, scroll down to Microscopic analysis
of nucleus-nucleus elastic scattering at intermediate
The article is almost 9 euros. Can't you just share your copy?
I'll send you my copy in my next email, but I don't know how to send it
to the list. Otherwise, you can scroll down to it on this link, and open
the PDF on the right side of the Google Scholar page. It's article
number 4 on the
On Mon, 2010-12-20 at 20:28 -0800, Harry Veeder wrote:
He is proposing a system to ensure a more equitable distribution of
wealth.This
is different from giving everyone the same access to wealth.
The system of payment he is proposing does not depend on more taxation (or
what
you call
This is a science list, but since this thread continues to pursue
socialist ideals here, I think it appropriate to revisit the moral
argument. The most moral thing you can say about any plan such as this,
is that it's a-moral, that there is no such thing as morality, and that
you're pursuing the
Craig, it's not clear to me what it is about the proposed Virtual
Currency (VC) system that you are uncomfortable with. I think it would
be more productive if you could give me specific details. What is it
that you don't like? Expressing (quite eloquently I might add) that
the Virtual
In the spirit of the Virtual Currency system trading directly with
precious metals would probably be frowned upon. ;-) However, not to
the point that any of its adherents would ever be threatened in any
way, nor sent to jail. Heaven's no! Why send people to jail for simply
exchanging
On Thu, 2010-12-30 at 13:18 -0500, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Craig Haynie wrote:
. . . then let's change it together, through voluntary cooperation without
threats of violence being imposed on those who disagree.
Let me make it clear that I do not belittle the inherent threats of
violence
On Fri, 2011-11-11 at 18:12 -0800, Mary Yugo wrote:
Someone at Ecatnews.com pointed out that the web site is so bad that
someone left in this name:
Prof. George Kelly (University of New Hampshire – USA)
That is a throw back to Rossi's board of directors for his silly
blog he pretends
is an 'advisor'.
Craig Haynie
Manchester, NH
On Sun, 2011-11-13 at 10:22 -0800, Mary Yugo wrote:
OK, thanks. I guess in Rossi's case you look for transmutation to
copper isotopes. However, the one time this was done, the copper from
the ash from Rossi's machine had the EXACT isotope ratios that are
found in nature. That would be
On Sun, 2011-11-13 at 16:20 -0800, Mary Yugo wrote:
It's also possible that cold fusion occurs in nature, and
through the
eons, the copper we see around us is the product of the same
reaction.
What reaction is that?
The reaction inside Rossi's reactor...
On Sat, 2011-11-19 at 14:21 -0800, Mary Yugo wrote:
'm still looking for that one killer paper that shows long
sustained, well measured, clearly presented, plots of excess energy vs
time that could not possibly have come from some other place -- say by
three orders of magnitude or so (nuclear
It is not in the interest of the US Patent Office or the US government
to suppress cold fusion devices -- to the contrary, discovery of a
robust energy generator that worked with cold fusion would be
spectacular for the economy of the US and would reduce or eliminate
dependence on foreign
is building
these 1 MW units?
There was a company listed as 4D Technologies, and this struck me as
something that I remember hearing somewhere. Has anyone else heard of
this company?
Craig Haynie
On Sat, 2011-11-26 at 15:55 -0800, Mary Yugo wrote:
On another note: I went over to 116 S. River Rd, in Bedford,
NH,
yesterday. There is a small business park there with about 15
companies
listed, but no Leonardo Corporation is in the directory, and
was building the e-cats here.
Craig Haynie
Manchester, NH
On Sat, 2011-11-26 at 21:15 -0500, Charles Hope wrote:
On Nov 26, 2011, at 21:07, Craig Haynie cchayniepub...@gmail.com wrote:
5) The registered address for the Leonardo Corporation is 8 Town Farm
Rd, New Boston, NH.
https://www.sos.nh.gov/corporate/soskb/Corp.asp?414253
On Sat, 2011-11-26 at 18:28 -0800, Mary Yugo wrote:
On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 6:26 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
He moved his US operation to Miami.
He has a factory in Miami? Where? I might be able to drop by on a
trip and get some clandestine photos if you can get a for sure
On Mon, 2011-11-28 at 20:35 -0800, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint wrote:
Wouldn't that be a hoot if it was good ol Dr. Mills.
I hear BLP had to cut back on space heating to save money, and their
technology is a little behind schedule, and over budget!
:-)
-Mark
What is their technology? Are
On Tue, 2011-11-29 at 16:01 -0500, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Someone here suggested that the best solution to this problem would be
for governments to throw a large pile of money that everyone involved
in the initial development of cold fusion. I think that would probably
be a good idea. I hope
On Tue, 2011-11-29 at 16:34 -0500, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Craig Haynie cchayniepub...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, 2011-11-29 at 16:01 -0500, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Someone here suggested that the best solution to this
problem would be
for governments
On Wed, 2011-11-30 at 08:30 -0600, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson wrote:
Is the unit basically a small furnace, perhaps to heat a few rooms or water?
What's the COP on this configuration? I haven't been able to determine that
yet.
For the single reactor kernel, from page 18 of the spec
On Sun, 2011-12-04 at 18:44 -0800, Mary Yugo wrote:
Rossi lied when he said he was self-funded when in fact he had
received funds from Ampenergo. Either that or Casserino lied. Rossi
had a reason to lie, Casserino did not.
There is no Ampenergo; it's just a paper company, like Leonardo corp.
On Tue, 2011-12-06 at 15:27 -0900, Horace Heffner wrote:
The only ways to end this kind of thing I know of is a single term
limit, government funded elections, and eliminating lobbyists.
So you want the government to fund only its own authorized candidates in
its own election? And you don't
by a nearby atom
transmuting it into a new element and releasing positive net energy in
the process
Here's a repost of the Lewis Larsen interview from July.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVRLcC21F14
Craig Haynie
Manchester, NH
On Sat, 2011-12-10 at 11:53 -0800, Mary Yugo wrote:
On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 11:40 AM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com
wrote:
Why should it be in a populated area?
Far as I know, all of Massachusetts is a populated area. And you
can't make nuclear devices in the US without
understand your theory, you believe that cold fusion can be
optimized within a lattice vibrating with an angular velocity of
(1.094 / pi) meters / sec, right? Can you predict the optimum
temperature of Rossi's nickel that would facilitate this effect?
Craig Haynie
Manchester, NH
On Sun, 2011-12-18 at 11:09 -0500, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Two or three people have contacted me suggesting we raise funds for
Miley. I appreciate the sentiments, and I am sure George would too,
but as far as I know universities only accept money from official
sources such as corporations,
?
Craig Haynie
Manchester, NH
On Thu, 2011-12-22 at 19:27 +0100, Man on Bridges wrote:
Hi,
On 22-12-2011 4:07, Jeff Driscoll wrote:
Basically a high energy photon's first step towards becoming matter
happens at orbitstate n = 1/137.05999679 which Mills terms the
transition state orbitsphere.
Here's that number 137
Hello!
On Sat, 2011-12-24 at 15:10 -0500, Jed Rothwell wrote:
I do not know, but I do know that a VP at NI wrote to a major business
magazine and confirmed that they are working on a control system for
Rossi...
How do you know? Was it published online? If so, is there a link or any
other
On Sun, 2011-12-25 at 11:26 +1030, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote:
Did you not see that my board and myself are 100% convinced? I have just
completed several international visits. The FPE was real in 1989. It is
still real in 2010. We now have a working FPE device which we will start
showing to our
On Thu, 2012-01-12 at 12:33 -0800, Bill Traweek wrote:
I notice that on slide 11 they used a Hydrogen purification system as
a proxy for PF's electrolytic cell. I also notice that
the Palladium membrane is heated with a heater. I wonder if Rossi's
heater is for a related purpose to the
We need to put down the guns.
Every action taken by government, whether it's a new law, or some tax,
is enforced by violence and the threat of violence. It's enforced at
the point of a gun. We need to stop using guns to solve our social
problems. Replace laws with voluntary agreements, and
On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 11:02 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Rossi sometimes plays word games. Jones did not claim that it was
given back. His comment is more like it was returned for repairs.
That is correct. Not only that, Rossi has all the characteristics of a
pathological
On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 12:56 PM, Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote:
It's not so much proven lies as it is constant inconsistencies, vagueness,
tangential answers to obviously relevant and harmless questions, spouting
off about snakes and clowns, and general avoidance of credible answers.
On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 1:22 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Are you saying his denial of culpability in the sordid Petrodragon affair is
not a big lie? Or the money laundering - or the claim that he did not know
that he had a “mail order” degree? Or the many lies about the TEG
On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 2:37 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Craig - Did you catch Rossi's interview Friday?
He said straight out: we are in mass production in Miami.
I thought he said 'Florida', but it doesn't matter. When I heard this,
my initial thought was that he is planning
On Thu, 2012-01-19 at 15:26 -0200, Daniel Rocha wrote:
But he didn't seem to offer any scam. He didn't promote or try to sell
anything. In fact, he just seemed like a regular member who wanted to
test an ecat.
With the SMOT scam, Greg Watson came here and simply started to make
claims that he
On Fri, 2012-01-20 at 08:53 +1030, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote:
Steven,
Didn't sleep much last night. Went for a morning walk along the beach
with my dog and watched the sun come up. Just had a coffee with our
chairman who lives not that far from me. I'm taking 2 weeks leave to get
my head
Heh!
I think you may need profession assistance with your obsession with
Greg. :)
Craig
On Fri, 2012-01-20 at 07:59 -0800, Eff Wivakeef wrote:
The Ballad of Greg Watson (updated)
Come and listen to a story
Bout a man named Greg
A poor old aging scammer
Barely kept his fambly fed
And
1) My inability to make a 100% solid SMOT device and
ship it to the 2 or so people who had sent me $150
Aus.
http://peakoil.com/forums/the-cold-fusion-thread-pt-4-merged-t63982-165.html
20,000??? people sent him money for the SMOT?
I never knew he was at that level. That's 3 million AUS
On Fri, 2012-01-20 at 13:25 -0800, Eff Wivakeef wrote:
Err the 20,000 Might be an inadvertent typo.
Who knows how many of the stupid things he sold or did did/not
deliver.
What is for sure is that Greg advertised the SMOT all over the net and
lived off the income for a few years.
The point in the agreement which requires the compensation to go to an
individual, and not to a corporation, would cause me to back out if I
was the CEO of Defkalion. Defkalion is doing this for the money, not
to enrich some individual's personal pocket.
Craig
Manchester, NH
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012
On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 12:48 AM, Jarold McWilliams oldja...@hotmail.comwrote:
The problem with all of that is the ones who work the least are the ones
with the most money.
It's only a problem to you.
Do you think Buffet really worked a million times harder than the average
person?
No,
On Tue, 2012-04-03 at 16:24 -0400, Jed Rothwell wrote:
What is it with flying cars? It seems like the worst idea ever. Why
not just rent a car at the airport? Even small airports usually have
them. Anyway, here is the latest:
On 05/06/2012 09:39 AM, Greg Watson wrote:
Let me make this very clear, GGE will have no hesitation in taking you
to court for defamation if you make any further remarks like that.
Green and Gold Energy is a TOTAL FRAUD Pay it no mind. This felllow,
Greg Watson, has been involved in
On 05/06/2012 09:52 AM, Greg Watson wrote:
Hi Guys
In order to comply with ASX regulations GGE will make no further
comment until the announcement of the float.
All posts on this forum relating to this matter are being archived and
passed on to our legal team.
I respectfully ask that you be
I vote for keeping Vortex politics-free, especially when it has zero
to do with the spirit of this email list. I'm sure most of us have
already decided where they fall on the political spectrum and are
perfectly capable of deciding what, and for whom, to vote for. If you
like politics (and I
On 05/31/2012 01:42 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
[...]
I have a similar set of quote for the canals that governments were
building all over Europe and the Erie canal in 1817, and the railroads
they soon subsidized, and the Transcontinental Railroad built with
Uncle Sam's loans in the 1860s, and
On 05/31/2012 04:32 PM, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson wrote:
And then Craig replied:
How pleasant! Governments take money from people through
threats of violence, to subsidize special interests.
[...]
I'm baffled, Craig. How do you go about equating certain government
funded programs that have
On 05/31/2012 04:19 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Craig Haynie cchayniepub...@gmail.com
mailto:cchayniepub...@gmail.com wrote:
If the technology is cost efficient, then the market will bring
it. Even if delayed by 20 to 50 years, this is a small price to
pay for a moral society run
On 05/31/2012 10:17 PM, Eric Walker wrote:
To (1), the complaint about the government using the threat force to
extract taxes is fanciful. As has been suggested, you can move to
Somalia or Afghanistan if you prefer. There you will learn that when
the government doesn't have a monopoly on
Have you all seen this? Have I just not been paying attention?
http://www.science.edu/TechoftheYear/TechoftheYear.htm
Craig Haynie
Houston
, not the foreground.
This should bias the results as many people will subconsciously notice
this.
Craig Haynie (Houston)
/index.php/topic,3457.367.html
Is anyone certain that the power isn't coming directly from the function
generator?
Craig Haynie (Houston)
The URL is difficult to enter, and the article is short and mainly quotes,
so I will take the liberty of uploading it. As Chris Zell says, it is
sadly defeatist.
If they are honest conclusions, then how can they be considered 'defeatist'?
That word implies a preconceived conclusion.
Craig
. These sources of carbon, when burned, are
creating the net increase in CO2 in the atmosphere which the global warming
advocates are concerned about.
Craig Haynie (Houston)
Jed wrote:
Electricity: 8 cents kWh
You're only paying 8 cents per KWH. I'm paying something like 13.4 cents per
KWH.
Craig Haynie (Houston)
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