A decade ago I would clean the microwave by putting a bowl in the microwave
with water and dishliquid and nuke the crap out of it, it wouldn't boil but
then I'd throw a teaspoon in it and it would explode with hot bubbles and
froth, the microwave was cleaned with superheated water and steam, but
All this talk of pinning is just fine, but all of this is nicely predicted
by the basic laws of electrical induction and the zero resistivity offered
by a superconductor, you would expect repulsion or attraction to occur.
Now if this were done in a Vacuum then there would be zero air friction
Ha, how ironic, stay hosted can't keep his site up!
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 10:22 PM, Colin Hercus colinher...@gmail.comwrote:
He's hosted here: http://stayhosted.com/, I expect they suspend if the
site exceeds it's traffic volume.
I've had my company site disappear from a hosting service
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMy3Q7xBufwfeature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMy3Q7xBufwfeature=relatedYup it's fake.
It it due to the index of refraction of the ball being identical to the
water.
There is an old claim of flesh being made semi-transparent by putting it in
a fluid
What am I missing here?
I have not kept up with Vort all that well lately but this message must be
missing a lot of context!
On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 9:15 AM, fznidar...@aol.com wrote:
The Alien Scientist and I have been spoofed. I made a few more phone
calls to get to the bottom of this
The entire population of the human race can be traced a single individual
who lived – not 3-4 billion years ago, when homo sapiens split from homo
erectus, but instead only ~70,000 years ago.
A hermaphrodite?
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 8:19 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
Ok, I read the wired article only, are they claiming that the photon can be
copied without collapsing the wave function yet produce non-entangled
copies?
Probably not, but if so then that could be used to cheat and actually read
the copies without collapsing the wave function.
That is of course
I came across some info that said there is no way to fix it and that there
is so much oil it will go on to the point of extreme disaster and beyond.
And that only a nuke which might make it dramatically worse has any chance
of fixing it.
So I had a thought, what if you turned the ocean water into
You can kill a randomly selected sample first to get the average
calcium-bone figures.
However this is not the only claim of biological transmutation...
On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 2:52 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Fri, 30 Jul 2010 19:36:58 -0700:
Hi,
Ok, I'm missing something here, how does having robotic factories give
people jobs?
Oh wait, I know http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFR07vsnWjA
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 3:57 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
*From:* fznidar...@aol.com
I do not think I have EVER heard of a skeptic/critic ever change their mind
and apologize, for anything!
It's not even anything I ever expected to see.
What ever next?
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 1:52 AM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
orionwo...@charter.net wrote:
It was brought to my
Our ancestors left us printing presses and vaccinations for free. Those
alone are worth more than all the money in the world. If you have writing,
good health and enough food, you can rebuild a ruined industrial
civilization in a decade, as the people in Japan did after WWII. *
Of course I
I tend to agree with Robin.
There is no reason that those without jobs could not be employed as not
everything can be exported.
Now there are many ways that extra employment could be found, one of them
would be a significant pickup in aerospace.
Since mysteriously no one wants to revisit the
Interesting effects from filming propellers:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9Px9EAhyssfeature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9Px9EAhyssfeature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T055cp-JFUA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T055cp-JFUA
Isn't this a bit backwards?
Shouldn't we be skeptical of the person often talking in all caps, making up
new words and claiming government connections?
Maybe Jack's stuff is a distorted view of the work I'm doing, or maybe it's
bunk I am not in the right mood to check, but Jack, have you shared
You are assuming that the labs would openly receive and report, in fact they
do claim to have given it to testing labs and they got positive results but
didn't want to be named.
That makes sense, since a lab would be rubbished for reporting such.
And what president would collapse the oil
300 percent is a ratio on input to output, not a quantity.
The quantity might be small and it suggests it is (the video)
On Sat, Oct 2, 2010 at 9:19 AM, peatbog peat...@teksavvy.com wrote:
You are assuming that the labs would openly receive and report,
in fact they do claim to have given it
Odd, gmail spam filter is normally very good.
Maybe you have marked some as spam once?
On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 1:44 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Good grief! The messages I was sending to Vortex were coming back and being
vectored into the Gmail spam folder! Hoist by my own
Wow, just checked and found a swag of recent vort emails in there, none from
you though. odd.
maybe if everyone who uses gmail marks vort false positives as not spam
gmail will get the message.
On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 5:17 PM, John Berry aethe...@gmail.com wrote:
Odd, gmail spam filter
Hey, I ticked 'not spam' on all of the one previously, and now I just
checked and none show in the spam filter.
So Jed, did you take this step?
On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 8:26 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote:
Esa Ruoho esaru...@gmail.com wrote:
some of jack's messages get dumped. big
Frank, I don't think that is quite right...
Larry Springs made a book I've got lyring around here and he makes a very
strong case for the width being half the wavelength (when collapsed).
But I think he claims the length is twice as long as you do, so twice as
long but half as wide might give
http://www.larryspring.com/
http://www.larryspring.com/Ah, here his site is, it seems there is quite a
bit more than just his info on the photon.
On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 6:55 AM, John Berry aethe...@gmail.com wrote:
Frank, I don't think that is quite right...
Larry Springs made a book I've
but I really think that you
should at least consider if his views on the photon make sense with your
model somehow.
On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 6:59 AM, John Berry aethe...@gmail.com wrote:
http://www.larryspring.com/
http://www.larryspring.com/Ah, here his site is, it seems there is quite
a bit
The problem is that they say 300% but they don't say 300% of what?
300% of a few milliwatts? 1 watt? 10 watts? 100 watts?
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 8:01 PM, Harry Veeder hlvee...@yahoo.com wrote:
Some of the people in this latest video have appeared in earlier Steorn
videos.
Harry
-
Is it just me or is science getting pretty absurd.
Photons having a temperature!?!?
Can the temperature of a photon be measured?
If the sun was cold but emitted the same amount of light, would it heat us
less?
If this is so, then could you use light as a heat sink?
Can you get 2 light sources
But I don't think here they really mean the frequency or the intensity,
maybe I have it wrong but I think they really mean that a given frequency of
light could be 'hot' or 'cold'.
And yet, the Bonn researchers succeeded by using two highly reflective
mirrors between which they kept bouncing a
There are a number of claims of dropped rotating objects falling differently
than non-rotating.
On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 6:04 AM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
This is beginning to sound like that great Heretic Eric Laithwaite.
Appropriately, here is his Christmas Lecture:
. if you want to get
one.you can check it out .
I shall take this opportunity to wish you a Blessed Christmas and a healthy
and happy New Year.
Regards,
John Berry
Please ignore this crap.
No idea how this is being done but spammers are using my address book and
email and name to spam people.
On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 10:31 PM, John Berry aethe...@gmail.com wrote:
hello
Just a couple of days ago we bought an Apple MacBook Pro MC024LL/Afrom !
this website
, 2011 at 11:27 PM, John Berry aethe...@gmail.com wrote:
Please ignore this crap.
No idea how this is being done but spammers are using my address book and
email and name to spam people.
On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 10:31 PM, John Berry aethe...@gmail.com wrote:
hello
Just a couple of days ago we
It Should be the same surely.
No doubt about that, now is it? That is a different question.
On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 2:39 PM, David Jonsson davidjonssonswe...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi
Imagine a ball lying on a plane. The wheight is the mass times the
gravitational acceleration.
Imagine a
Of course, in practice the results can sometimes indicate that momentum
isn't conserved.
This example is in principle not dissimilar to some inertial propulsion
concepts and there is evidence that some may work.
On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 3:19 PM, Stephen A. Lawrence sa...@pobox.comwrote:
On
I had a thought last night for the first time that light can have a few
more properties that we (or I) usually consider.
Of course the most obvious aspect is frequency and then if it is coherent,
how it is polarized and if the wave state has collapse or not.
The next aspect I am aware of but
One other thought is that for a given electric charge to move in a way that
creates a photon it must move it's inertial mass around.
The issue is that the inertial mass of an electron and a proton is highly
different.
This begs the question of if it takes the same energy or not to release the
to me.
The fact that an ferrite toroid would not work at high frequencies requires
it to be rather large to ensure that it is magnetized differently on the 2
sides.
Thanks for reading.
John Berry
Here's a thought experiment I created some years ago.
Two incredibly long space trains on close parallel tracks, each cabin
having a clock visible to the passengers on the other train.
As both trains are stationary initially, it is a reasonably
straightforward task to ensure that the clocks in
, then
these impacts are spread out over a greater area and the aggregate
force is reduced. No funky relatavistic effects required.
Merlyn
*/John Berry [EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote:
[snip]
Now, one thing on my mind, that few seem to consider is the Bernoulli
effect being considered
http://www.clarkefoundation.org/
He's fine
Jed Rothwell wrote:
(That would be Sir Arthur, by the way.)
I assume he is okay. It would be a major news story otherwise. I sent
him the following message:
Subject: Why was there no warning?!?
Dear Arthur,
The news from Sri Lanka is dreadful. I hope
But what effect would this have on satellites and future spaceships?
If this is a good idea (and I doubt it) the orbit of the particles would
have to be limited so they are easy to steer round.
Horace Heffner wrote:
At 7:12 PM 2/9/5, revtec wrote:
God stuff is considered off topic in this
I see no problem with a massive farm, or with lots of smaller ones, and
ones on top of buildings, and roofs.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Not to distract the Vort membership from the recent fascinating Lithium-Ion
breakthrough I thought it might be interesting to recap another interesting
claim.
I'm not sure there is a single established answer to what I'm about to
ask, but I know that both possibilities were at one time considered.
In a rail gun, clearly the force on the movable member is reflected
elsewhere in the circuit, either as a longitudinal force on the rail, or
on what
But if it can recharge in 1 minute then an all electric car could be
topped up along the way, at lights or service stations.
All electric cars could be made much lighter.
Sure you can't go anywhere remote, but still. (popular places could have
charging locations, as long as there is power in the
Great analysis.
It should work IMO even if the forces are as Ampere states unless there
is no displacement current, in which case the closed end would be
balanced within it's self, and the open end would have no force.
Your analysis makes it tempting to try and build it, except that in air
*On the subject of magnetic fields on the brain (tempted to try this
one):*
*
From Keelynet:*
*
NOTE: This was from a conversation I had several years ago, so the
details might be a bit fuzzy Jerry*
*Walter Rawls, who worked with the effects of monopolar magnetic fields
on matter with
Remi, seriously how do you know energy can't be created or destroyed?There is a theory saying it can't.And there are observations where it is conserved.And observations where it isn't.Logical thought experiments where it is conserved.
And logical thought experiments where it is not
My understanding was that magnetic fields weren't really 'lines' but a smooth field and were never really cut or broken, this thread sounds like bunk I'm afraid.How far apart are these lines? if I was small I guess I could navigate around them and not feel a field.
Can I tie the lines in a knot?I
No, Wesely is correct, it is an inertial anchor. (it could be used to push off or it could be used by moving it in the direction of travel and turning it on then bringing it to rest relative to the ship, or both)The reason acceleration is tricky is not because the energy is converted into motion
I suppose KWh is a poor unit of energy to use when my example only ran for a few seconds, so change to some other suitible measure of energy.On 9/15/06, John Berry
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:No, Wesely is correct, it is an inertial anchor. (it could be used to push off or it could be used by moving
No Kyle, your mistaken.There is no way it can work with a stationary reference frame as you say.The idea behind it being unable to accelerate and I believe it is just a theory is that ACCELERATION will cause a Doppler like effect and it will no longer be in resonance hence lower Q and lower EM
No Kyle, your mistaken.You doubt KE = 1/2mv^2?Not in anything other than reactionless propulsion.
To postulate a scenario where a supposedreactionless engine consumes power at a rate based on an absolute velocity
and therefore obeys energy conservation I think is less mistaken than tosimply
Indeed, it would seem that the hypothesized preferred frame would act as the
road. Or the air. There is another word that could be used, it startswith an e (or ae) but I will remain a gentleman. :)I'm not so much of a gentleman then.
But if you accept that Morton and ATGroup and especially
On 9/17/06, Robin van Spaandonk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In reply toJohn Berry's message of Sun, 17 Sep 2006 10:10:37+1200:Hi,[snip] No Kyle, your mistaken. You doubt KE = 1/2mv^2?Not in anything other than reactionless propulsion.
Who says it's reactionless? Personally, I think it reacts
On 9/17/06, Robin van Spaandonk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In reply toJohn Berry's message of Sun, 17 Sep 2006 15:29:05+1200:Hi,[snip] BTW I also suspect that it is real, because the measured mass change was +2 gm in one orientation, and -2 gm when turned upside
down. This is not the sort of thing
wrote: - Original Message - From: John Berry To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 6:27 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]: stationary emdrive- inertial anchor What you should note is that this device if it works at all MUST violate the conservation of energy, there is no way round
On 9/17/06, Wesley Bruce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
ZPE saves the conservation of energy yet again.
John Berry wrote:
snip I'm to thick to handle this bit. ;-)
Plus you do not state by which mechanism the thrust would be effected,
where my Doppler effect pushing it out of resonance
while I am not sure exactly how, I wonder if the reason the droplets do that is because of a 90 degree aether flow.
On 9/23/06, John Berry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think I know how Podkletnovs second device works, the aether moves
through the donut superconductors inducing a second beam like aether
I think I know how Podkletnovs second device works, the aether moves through the donut superconductors inducing a second beam like aether
flow at 90 degrees, the exact same thing can be seen to happen in the ATGroup device and Mortons device which was really Podkletnov on a budget.Close but the
If Jed is even close to being right (in the ballpark) it doesn't make sense, there is more than enough power from hydro, solar, wind, wave and tide and temperature differentials, and electric cars work just fine.No need for stupid bio fuels (unless they use waste products and take little energy to
Taking 'Vortex' more literally than most.Here is a question though, is a vortex just rotation of fluids, a fluid moving in a circle which in in effect a single dimension of movement.Or is it only when you have a fluid moving around, towards the center and down (or up?). (IMO that's a true vortex)
Those small cars were something like 11 times more likely to kill you, plus they are ugly.On 9/29/06, Kyle R. Mcallister
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:- Original Message -From: John Steck
[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: vortex-l@eskimo.comSent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 11:17 PMSubject: RE: [Vo]:
I have a friend, he's a bit odd, but anyway he told me about a friend of his (also John) who built a death ray, he isn't technical and I'm am doubtful he'd be able to come up with such interesting details, by using very strong UV lamps and high voltage was able to create just such a conductive
The answer is either free energy devices or solar, wind, wave, tide etc.. generators and then rather than scrapping cars make a synthetic fuel:http://jlnlabs.online.fr/bingofuel/html/bfr10.htm
Encourage full electric and as an alternative hybrid, and for those unable to switch to more efficient
I am extremely interested in what your describing but my imagination
let me down, maybe you could make a diagram and put this idea on your
website?
This is very interesting and close to some thoughts of mine.For one there are many independent claims (Morton for one) that an electrical discharge
Ok, so most likely a liquid metal 'living' AI technology ala T2... ;)On 11/8/06, Terry Blanton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:On 11/7/06, Jones Beene [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote: In astrological symbolism, the planet Mercury represents the mind, technology and particularly the intellectual processes and
On 12/12/06, Jed Rothwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Researchers at DOE's Pacific Northwest National
Laboratory also evaluated the impact of plug-in
hybrid electric vehicles, or PHEVs, on foreign
oil imports, the environment, electric utilities and the consumer. . . .
Then Bush calculated it
I am planning an experiment to see if I can cause a rotation of the aether
in a metal ring, and then by rotating the ring (on an axis through it's
cross section) see if any processional forces appear. (so if the aether is
moving, and assuming this has an inertial effect it would be precessing)
Because it doesn't.
On 1/16/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Why aren't people more clear about the steorn motor and
say that it gets colder as it creates mechanical power?
Then the motor would be a type of Ambient Heat Recycling
machine which is revolutionary but possible. Diode
Ever? Yes.
In the Steorn device? No.
On 1/18/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Quoting Robin van Spaandonk [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
One off-beat possibility is a time distortion field. I wonder if
clocks in the surroundings run at a different speed? :)
Time distortion fields, has
Well as I spent time with Bruce (and Andrew Mount and Paul Clarke) in New
Zealand not long before he died and I can tell you that he was as Paul
asserts a kind man, no negativity.
The last N-Machine test in NZ before his death was not so positive.
I believe that the N-Machine will work as a
On 1/21/07, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
John Berry wrote:
Well as I spent time with Bruce (and Andrew Mount
and Paul Clarke) in New
Zealand not long before he died and I can tell you
that he was as Paul
asserts a kind man, no negativity.
The last N-Machine test in NZ before his death
Well, first let me explain something.
I didn't pay much attention to the post I initially replied to, I didn't pay
any attention to the subject line and assumed it was a discussion going on
in a different list where the list owner (Bill Alek) expressed that he does
not believe that any magnetic
Ok, here is a challenge, please calculate the unidirectional force that
would be created by having a 2x1 inch cube neodymium magnets (1 Tesla)
separated by 2 inches in attraction. Vertically aligned
Now assume that gravity is equivalent to acceleration:
^ 1 G of virtual acceleration up. (hence
) but it is still pretty interesting no?
Isn't a device that breaks 2 such major laws even slightly worth some
interest if only as a proof of concept that it can be done?
Plus it seems the effect could be engineered to useful proportions
conceivably.
On 1/28/07, John Berry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ok, here
The magnet moving towards the loop will induce the opposite voltage in the
loop, as .0001 volts
induced in the opposite direction is enough to reverse the current direction
in the SC loop the magnet will basically not be attracted at all.
Except
freaking basic stuff!
Michel
- Original Message -
From: John Berry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 2:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]: Energy *Violations* using *standard* physics
The magnet moving towards the loop will induce the opposite voltage
On 1/31/07, Robin van Spaandonk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In reply to John Berry's message of Sun, 28 Jan 2007 23:48:21 +1300:
[snip]
What about the reverse situation. The time it takes for the force from the
bottom magnet to reach the top magnet? Wouldn't that produce the reverse
effect?
be
explained unless there is some underlying drag?
Please ignore me if I just don't get it.
-Original Message-
*From:* John Berry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
*Sent:* Tuesday, January 30, 2007 4:50 PM
*To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
*Subject:* Re: [Vo]: Easy Unidirectional Force, get out your
calculators
Ok, let's say that one of us (I haven't BTW) finds out how to crack this
Free Energy nut.
And Antigravity, and Healing/Rejuvenation.
By discovering a new branch of physics which makes the things above and more
easily doable.
Obviously like any technology it could be misused too.
So what would
] wrote:
On 2/1/07, John Berry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ok, let's say that one of us (I haven't BTW) finds out how to crack this
Free Energy nut.
There are still economics associated with FE. Let's suppose I can
generate FE of 2 kW continuous. Can I take my home off grid?
The average home
I just realized how complex a cut off device is, a fuse, I mean they might
want something more complex than that but if there is a blackout or brownout
the power being supplied by the grid is ziltch or has dropped which means
only your device is powering all those homes which will mean increased
question.
John Berry wrote:
Ok, let's say that one of us (I haven't BTW) finds out how to crack this
Free Energy nut.
And Antigravity, and Healing/Rejuvenation.
By discovering a new branch of physics which makes the things above
and more
easily doable.
Obviously like any technology it could
On 2/2/07, Stiffler Scientific [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This is my last comment on this thread as I for sure live in a different
world than the rest of you.
Move.
Plus I just don't see New Zealand taxing people based on the power they
would have used if connected to the grid.
Almost all energy is potential energy really.
Motion is potential as it depends of the reference frame, voltage is
potential.
Just because you can measure it doesn't mean it's not potential, you can
measure gravity, magnetic fields, motion...
The one exception that I can think of is light (or
On 2/5/07, Stiffler Scientific [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You are calling it right?
I have been in and out of groups for over 12 years now and it has not
changed. The hands on people are 1% of the listers. I have cried foul often
about the arm chair crowd and they just tell me to 'MOVE ON'.
On 2/5/07, Stiffler Scientific [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
John Berry said;
I hate theory, but must add that understanding what is going on with
this technology is important if it is to become a science.
John, so is this the old 'Chicken and Egg' thing?
Maybe I do not understand what you
Actually I think I recall that sun light measurements over the decades are
showing that less sun is reaching the surface at least.
On 2/8/07, Jed Rothwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
thomas malloy wrote:
Dr Ball won't make the headlines by pointing out that plant growth
is stimulated by an
That's how many electrostatic machines work such as the Wimshurst.
There are 3 different things, voltage, field strength and charge imbalance,
in this case the Voltage goes up, however the field strength goes down
(though is still considerable and covers more area) and the charge imbalance
Ok, well I would give this a freaking low chance of being real, even if I
was ok with the open circuit I'd not be so fine with the fact it's
symmetrical yet develops a DC voltage.
However if you look when the flame goes out on the lighter that is exactly
when the bulb turns on, so while the
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fPXewq8S5w
Another candle fake.
On 2/9/07, John Berry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ok, well I would give this a freaking low chance of being real, even if I
was ok with the open circuit I'd not be so fine with the fact it's
symmetrical yet develops a DC voltage
I'm all for Apocalypse:
*Apocalypse* (Greek http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_language:
Ἀποκάλυψις -translit.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TransliterationAPOKALYPSIS, literally:
the lifting of the veil), is a term applied to the
disclosure to certain privileged persons of something hidden from
Jed, you are right in everything you say.
Though by the same token there are many things that are proven and yet
utterly ignored because people think that the limits they place on the
universe actually mean something, why they think their model of the universe
trumps irrefutable proof of how the
On 2/10/07, Jed Rothwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Exactly. Just because some drivers sometimes run into trees, you do
not declare that no one can drive, or that cars do not exist.
Doctors and drug companies kill people by the thousands (scratch that,
millions) and only slowly are they
In a 2 plate capacitor when together the field strength is concentrated more
on the inside of the 2 plates, while there is the same net field once
separated now it is spread out, and the field of the opposite plate isn't in
range so actually it is a lot weaker.
On 2/14/07, Robin van Spaandonk
Robin is not right.
A metal sphere and a metal cone of equal capacity at an equal voltage and
charge imbalance will have the same net electric field.
But the electric field density at the point of the cone (along with the
charge imbalance density at that point) is greater than the electric
Yup, that was meant to be I'm not wrong about this.
I was changing it from I don't think I'm wrong about this, decided I was
certain so I removed the uncertainty but by doing so reversed it's meaning.
On 2/15/07, John Berry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Robin is not right.
A metal sphere
On 2/14/07, Frederick Sparber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Undoing it in less than 300 years is going to be costly.
Fred
I disagree.
see: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2002/04/020412080812.htm
Cost of the entire process is equivalent to about 20 cents per gallon of
gasoline.
So for
It applies to plates just the same.
On 2/15/07, Robin van Spaandonk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In reply to John Berry's message of Thu, 15 Feb 2007 11:42:17 +1300:
Hi,
[snip]
Robin is not right.
Robin was talking about two flat plates. Granted, they only appear as flat
plates when close
deadly.
On 2/15/07, Harry Veeder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
John Berry wrote:
Actually the only thing you feel is a pin point burn and the smell of
burning skin, plus a buzzing.
If it wasn't for the burn it's not painful though possibly irritating.
Is it like grabbing an electric soldiering
On 2/15/07, Michel Jullian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
- Original Message -
From: John Berry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 5:06 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]: Re: Fred's Van de Graaff Antics
On 2/5/07, Michel Jullian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
On 2/15/07, Michel Jullian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
No, not kW levels, in fact you can get what I described from a 12w
flyback
that powers a plasma globe.
How cute, is this what you tried to fly your lifter with?
Of course not.
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