Re: [Vo]:New LENR patent application from STMicroelectronics

2013-09-29 Thread Blaze Spinnaker
Very encouraging to see this.   Certainly increases the probability of a
real LENR, if not LENR+ effect existing.


On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 8:15 PM, pagnu...@htdconnect.com wrote:

 Reactor for energy generation through low energy nuclear reactions (lenr)
 between hydrogen and transition metals and related method of energy
 generation  -  US 20130243143 A1

 ABSTRACT
 An embodiment of an apparatus includes a reaction chamber, a reaction
 unit, and an energy regulator. The reaction chamber includes an energy
 port, and the reaction unit is disposed in the reaction chamber and is
 configured to allow an energy-releasing reaction between first and second
 materials. And the energy regulator is configured to control a rate at
 which reaction-released energy exits the reaction chamber via the energy
 port. The reaction chamber may include a thermally conductive wall that
 forms a portion of the energy port, and the energy regulator may include a
 thermally conductive member and a mechanism configured to control a
 distance between the thermally conductive wall and the thermally
 conductive member. Furthermore, the reaction unit may include a mechanism
 configured to facilitate the reaction between the first and second
 materials, and may also include a mechanism configured to control a rate
 at which the reaction releases energy.





Re: [Vo]:New LENR patent application from STMicroelectronics

2013-09-29 Thread Blaze Spinnaker
(STMElectronics is an 8B~ public company)


On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 10:35 PM, Blaze Spinnaker
blazespinna...@gmail.comwrote:

 Very encouraging to see this.   Certainly increases the probability of a
 real LENR, if not LENR+ effect existing.


 On Sun, Sep 22, 2013 at 8:15 PM, pagnu...@htdconnect.com wrote:

 Reactor for energy generation through low energy nuclear reactions (lenr)
 between hydrogen and transition metals and related method of energy
 generation  -  US 20130243143 A1

 ABSTRACT
 An embodiment of an apparatus includes a reaction chamber, a reaction
 unit, and an energy regulator. The reaction chamber includes an energy
 port, and the reaction unit is disposed in the reaction chamber and is
 configured to allow an energy-releasing reaction between first and second
 materials. And the energy regulator is configured to control a rate at
 which reaction-released energy exits the reaction chamber via the energy
 port. The reaction chamber may include a thermally conductive wall that
 forms a portion of the energy port, and the energy regulator may include a
 thermally conductive member and a mechanism configured to control a
 distance between the thermally conductive wall and the thermally
 conductive member. Furthermore, the reaction unit may include a mechanism
 configured to facilitate the reaction between the first and second
 materials, and may also include a mechanism configured to control a rate
 at which the reaction releases energy.






Re: [Vo]:New LENR patent application from STMicroelectronics

2013-09-23 Thread Patrick Ellul
I wonder if ST is now Rossi's Daddy.
He has worked with them before.
They have various USA offices:
http://www.st.com/stonline/contactus/contacts/index.php?type=5#USA
And now they have a lenr patent in their name.
I am also surprised how no one has stalked Rossi enough to see where he
goes to work every day.



On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 1:23 PM, pagnu...@htdconnect.com wrote:

 Forgot to include this link:

 http://www.google.com/patents/US20130243143

  Reactor for energy generation through low energy nuclear reactions (lenr)
  between hydrogen and transition metals and related method of energy
  generation  -  US 20130243143 A1
 
  ABSTRACT
  An embodiment of an apparatus includes a reaction chamber, a reaction
  unit, and an energy regulator. The reaction chamber includes an energy
  port, and the reaction unit is disposed in the reaction chamber and is
  configured to allow an energy-releasing reaction between first and second
  materials. And the energy regulator is configured to control a rate at
  which reaction-released energy exits the reaction chamber via the energy
  port. The reaction chamber may include a thermally conductive wall that
  forms a portion of the energy port, and the energy regulator may include
 a
  thermally conductive member and a mechanism configured to control a
  distance between the thermally conductive wall and the thermally
  conductive member. Furthermore, the reaction unit may include a mechanism
  configured to facilitate the reaction between the first and second
  materials, and may also include a mechanism configured to control a rate
  at which the reaction releases energy.
 
 
 
 





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Re: [Vo]:New LENR patent application from STMicroelectronics

2013-09-23 Thread Daniel Rocha
They have 2 other applications:

https://www.google.com/patents/WO2001029844A1
https://www.google.com/patents/WO1997020318A1

I don't think they are related to Rossi.

-- 
Daniel Rocha - RJ
danieldi...@gmail.com


Re: [Vo]:New LENR patent application from STMicroelectronics

2013-09-23 Thread pagnucco
Those are fairly old - filed in years 2000 and 1995, well before Rossi.
I am not sure they were working with Celani that early.

BTW, a recently published cold D+D fusion patent application is -

Deuterium Reactor  -- US 20130235963 A1

ABSTRACT
The Deuterium Reactor is a fusion reactor whose design is based upon a
non-singular electrostatic required by the quantization of electric
charge. This potential allows for a significant reduction in the fusion
barrier of deuterium nuclei when these nuclei are held in close proximity,
as within a crystal, and preconditioned using a magnetic field. This
manner of fusion barrier reduction produces direct fusion of two deuterium
nuclei into a helium nucleus without attendant hazardous radiation of
classical fusion reactors. The energy released in the deuterium reactor
may be used in different ways for different applications and its use will
result in a significant reduction in fossil fuel use, a significant
reduction in radioactive waste by replacing fission reactors, and a
significant impact upon the world economy.
http://www.google.com/patents/US20130235963

The theory differs from other more popular ones.

-- Lou Pagnucco

Daniel Rocha wrote:
 They have 2 other applications:

 https://www.google.com/patents/WO2001029844A1
 https://www.google.com/patents/WO1997020318A1

 I don't think they are related to Rossi.

 --
 Daniel Rocha - RJ
 danieldi...@gmail.com





RE: [Vo]:New LENR patent application from STMicroelectronics

2013-09-23 Thread Jones Beene

-Original Message-
From: pagnu...@htdconnect.com 

BTW, a recently published cold D+D fusion patent application is -
Deuterium Reactor  -- US 20130235963 A1

ABSTRACT
The Deuterium Reactor is a fusion reactor whose design is based upon a
non-singular electrostatic required by the quantization of electric
charge. This potential allows for a significant reduction in the fusion
barrier of deuterium nuclei when these nuclei are held in close proximity,
as within a crystal, and preconditioned using a magnetic field. 


Lou, interesting find, in a way.

 At first this application seemed nutty, but the inventor was funded by a
small grant from:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Head_Naval_Surface_Warfare_Center

Whether that adds any credibility to the application is debatable. 

One might reasonably ask: what is a non-singular electrostatic required by
the quantization of electric charge. Sounds cranky. Given the Quantum Hall
Effect, it is hard to imagine what the inventor is talking about - unless he
is invoking Mills' f/H or redundant ground states - from another
perspective, or else Landau quantization.

In regard to the later, the De Haas-van Alphen effect may indeed have a
place in a hypothesis for nanomagnetism in LENR ... in the way that Ahern
and others are suggesting, yet I do not remember seeing this effect
mentioned before now.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Haas%E2%80%93van_Alphen_effect

Jones
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RE: [Vo]:New LENR patent application from STMicroelectronics

2013-09-23 Thread pagnucco
Jones Beene wrote:

 -Original Message-
 From: pagnu...@htdconnect.com

 BTW, a recently published cold D+D fusion patent application is -
 Deuterium Reactor  -- US 20130235963 A1

 ABSTRACT
 The Deuterium Reactor is a fusion reactor whose design is based upon a
 non-singular electrostatic required by the quantization of electric
 charge. This potential allows for a significant reduction in the fusion
 barrier of deuterium nuclei when these nuclei are held in close proximity,
 as within a crystal, and preconditioned using a magnetic field.


 Lou, interesting find, in a way.

  At first this application seemed nutty, but the inventor was funded by a
 small grant from:

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Head_Naval_Surface_Warfare_Center

 Whether that adds any credibility to the application is debatable.

 One might reasonably ask: what is a non-singular electrostatic required
 by
 the quantization of electric charge. Sounds cranky. Given the Quantum
 Hall
 Effect, it is hard to imagine what the inventor is talking about - unless
 he
 is invoking Mills' f/H or redundant ground states - from another
 perspective, or else Landau quantization.

 In regard to the later, the De Haas-van Alphen effect may indeed have a
 place in a hypothesis for nanomagnetism in LENR ... in the way that
 Ahern
 and others are suggesting, yet I do not remember seeing this effect
 mentioned before now.

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Haas%E2%80%93van_Alphen_effect

 Jones





RE: [Vo]:New LENR patent application from STMicroelectronics

2013-09-23 Thread Jones Beene
Interview with Pharis Williams

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IB2wIBhAoVs


_

-Original Message-
From: pagnu...@htdconnect.com 

BTW, a recently published cold D+D fusion patent application
is -
Deuterium Reactor  -- US 20130235963 A1

ABSTRACT
The Deuterium Reactor is a fusion reactor whose design is
based upon a
non-singular electrostatic required by the quantization of
electric
charge. This potential allows for a significant reduction in
the fusion barrier of deuterium nuclei when these nuclei are held in close
proximity, as within a crystal, and preconditioned using a magnetic field. 


Lou, interesting find, in a way.

 At first this application seemed nutty, but the inventor
was funded by a small grant from:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Head_Naval_Surface_Warfare_Center

Whether that adds any credibility to the application is
debatable. 

One might reasonably ask: what is a non-singular
electrostatic required by the quantization of electric charge. Sounds
cranky. Given the Quantum Hall Effect, it is hard to imagine what the
inventor is talking about - unless he is invoking Mills' f/H or redundant
ground states - from another perspective, or else Landau quantization.

In regard to the later, the De Haas-van Alphen effect may
indeed have a place in a hypothesis for nanomagnetism in LENR ... in the
way that Ahern and others are suggesting, yet I do not remember seeing this
effect mentioned before now.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Haas%E2%80%93van_Alphen_effect

Jones
attachment: winmail.dat

RE: [Vo]:New LENR patent application from STMicroelectronics

2013-09-23 Thread pagnucco
*** Resend of last partial email ***
Jones,

By a nonsingular potential, he means that the 1/r term must be incorrect
as r -- 0.  I have not read his theory so I have no opinion.

The De Haas-van Alphen effect is a new one for me.
Interesting.  I need to research it.
Whether it relates to Williams' theory may be a question you can ask him.
His website -
'www.nmt.edu/~pharis/' lists his email address 'pha...@emrtc.nmt.edu'

Another one of his interviews is at 'The Space Show' website -
http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com/2011/06/10/pharis-williams-friday-6-10-11/

I do not know whether his theories have been put through rigorous
experimental tests.

-- Lou Pagnucco

Jones Beene wrote:

 -Original Message-
 From: pagnu...@htdconnect.com

 BTW, a recently published cold D+D fusion patent application is -
 Deuterium Reactor  -- US 20130235963 A1

 ABSTRACT
 The Deuterium Reactor is a fusion reactor whose design is based upon a
 non-singular electrostatic required by the quantization of electric
 charge. This potential allows for a significant reduction in the fusion
 barrier of deuterium nuclei when these nuclei are held in close
 proximity,
 as within a crystal, and preconditioned using a magnetic field.


 Lou, interesting find, in a way.

  At first this application seemed nutty, but the inventor was funded by
 a
 small grant from:

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Head_Naval_Surface_Warfare_Center

 Whether that adds any credibility to the application is debatable.

 One might reasonably ask: what is a non-singular electrostatic required
 by
 the quantization of electric charge. Sounds cranky. Given the Quantum
 Hall
 Effect, it is hard to imagine what the inventor is talking about -
 unless
 he
 is invoking Mills' f/H or redundant ground states - from another
 perspective, or else Landau quantization.

 In regard to the later, the De Haas-van Alphen effect may indeed have a
 place in a hypothesis for nanomagnetism in LENR ... in the way that
 Ahern
 and others are suggesting, yet I do not remember seeing this effect
 mentioned before now.

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Haas%E2%80%93van_Alphen_effect

 Jones









RE: [Vo]:New LENR patent application from STMicroelectronics

2013-09-23 Thread DJ Cravens
You might notice that Pharis' theory that the patent was based on uses the 
neo-coulombic potential.   Some observant person might notice that the name of 
my booth at NI Week was Neo- Coulombic- named after that potential.  The same 
person might notice that I wrote the preface for Pharis' book ( The Dynamic 
Theory - A New View of Space-Time-Matter: The thermodynamic foundations of a 
five dimensional universe )
 
I normally shy away from theory in public and stick to experiments .  But this 
theory and Letts' empirical fitted values have helped guide my experiments.  
No, they are not perfect but even the light from a small candle is good in 
total darkness. 
 
It is an obscure theory- to say the least.   It is based on a 5 dim 
relativistic theory developed from thermodynamics using mass density as a 
physically real dimension. (avoids the cylindrical restrictions of KK theories) 
It predicts a softer nuclear potential (and non singular).   It also gives a 
max mass to energy conversion rate (like 4D did for a physical speed).  It 
predicts the nuclear binding energy closer than the standard models and 
reaction speeds within nuclear explosives.  
 
I like the theory since it derives EM and relativity starting from thermo 
instead of trying the other way around.  I don't agree with all the theory 
states but it is an interesting and unique approach to GR and QM. I will warn 
others that the theory does things like allow for variations in G and h similar 
to Dirac's large number hypothesis and it seems to exclude neutrinos with mass. 
 
D2

 
 Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2013 13:26:25 -0400
 Subject: RE: [Vo]:New LENR patent application from STMicroelectronics
 From: pagnu...@htdconnect.com
 To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
 
 *** Resend of last partial email ***
 Jones,
 
 By a nonsingular potential, he means that the 1/r term must be incorrect
 as r -- 0.  I have not read his theory so I have no opinion.
 
 The De Haas-van Alphen effect is a new one for me.
 Interesting.  I need to research it.
 Whether it relates to Williams' theory may be a question you can ask him.
 His website -
 'www.nmt.edu/~pharis/' lists his email address 'pha...@emrtc.nmt.edu'
 
 Another one of his interviews is at 'The Space Show' website -
 http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com/2011/06/10/pharis-williams-friday-6-10-11/
 
 I do not know whether his theories have been put through rigorous
 experimental tests.
 
 -- Lou Pagnucco
 
 Jones Beene wrote:
 
  -Original Message-
  From: pagnu...@htdconnect.com
 
  BTW, a recently published cold D+D fusion patent application is -
  Deuterium Reactor  -- US 20130235963 A1
 
  ABSTRACT
  The Deuterium Reactor is a fusion reactor whose design is based upon a
  non-singular electrostatic required by the quantization of electric
  charge. This potential allows for a significant reduction in the fusion
  barrier of deuterium nuclei when these nuclei are held in close
  proximity,
  as within a crystal, and preconditioned using a magnetic field.
 
 
  Lou, interesting find, in a way.
 
   At first this application seemed nutty, but the inventor was funded by
  a
  small grant from:
 
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Head_Naval_Surface_Warfare_Center
 
  Whether that adds any credibility to the application is debatable.
 
  One might reasonably ask: what is a non-singular electrostatic required
  by
  the quantization of electric charge. Sounds cranky. Given the Quantum
  Hall
  Effect, it is hard to imagine what the inventor is talking about -
  unless
  he
  is invoking Mills' f/H or redundant ground states - from another
  perspective, or else Landau quantization.
 
  In regard to the later, the De Haas-van Alphen effect may indeed have a
  place in a hypothesis for nanomagnetism in LENR ... in the way that
  Ahern
  and others are suggesting, yet I do not remember seeing this effect
  mentioned before now.
 
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Haas%E2%80%93van_Alphen_effect
 
  Jones
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  

RE: [Vo]:New LENR patent application from STMicroelectronics

2013-09-23 Thread pagnucco
DJ Cravens,

Here is another variable mass theory for LENR -

Theories of variable mass particles and low energy nuclear phenomena
http://www.scribd.com/doc/139182265/Theories-of-variable-mass-particles-and-low-energy-nuclear-phenomena

I am not sure if it is related to Williams' approach.

-- Lou Pagnucco

DJ Cravens wrote:
 You might notice that Pharis' theory that the patent was based on uses the
 neo-coulombic potential.   Some observant person might notice that the
 name of my booth at NI Week was Neo- Coulombic- named after that
 potential.  The same person might notice that I wrote the preface for
 Pharis' book ( The Dynamic Theory - A New View of Space-Time-Matter: The
 thermodynamic foundations of a five dimensional universe )

 I normally shy away from theory in public and stick to experiments .  But
 this theory and Letts' empirical fitted values have helped guide my
 experiments.  No, they are not perfect but even the light from a small
 candle is good in total darkness.

 It is an obscure theory- to say the least.   It is based on a 5 dim
 relativistic theory developed from thermodynamics using mass density as a
 physically real dimension. (avoids the cylindrical restrictions of KK
 theories) It predicts a softer nuclear potential (and non singular).
 It also gives a max mass to energy conversion rate (like 4D did for a
 physical speed).  It predicts the nuclear binding energy closer than the
 standard models and reaction speeds within nuclear explosives.

 I like the theory since it derives EM and relativity starting from thermo
 instead of trying the other way around.  I don't agree with all the theory
 states but it is an interesting and unique approach to GR and QM. I will
 warn others that the theory does things like allow for variations in G and
 h similar to Dirac's large number hypothesis and it seems to exclude
 neutrinos with mass.

 D2


 Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2013 13:26:25 -0400
 Subject: RE: [Vo]:New LENR patent application from STMicroelectronics
 From: pagnu...@htdconnect.com
 To: vortex-l@eskimo.com

 *** Resend of last partial email ***
 Jones,

 By a nonsingular potential, he means that the 1/r term must be incorrect
 as r -- 0.  I have not read his theory so I have no opinion.

 The De Haas-van Alphen effect is a new one for me.
 Interesting.  I need to research it.
 Whether it relates to Williams' theory may be a question you can ask
 him.
 His website -
 'www.nmt.edu/~pharis/' lists his email address 'pha...@emrtc.nmt.edu'

 Another one of his interviews is at 'The Space Show' website -
 http://thespaceshow.wordpress.com/2011/06/10/pharis-williams-friday-6-10-11/

 I do not know whether his theories have been put through rigorous
 experimental tests.

 -- Lou Pagnucco

 Jones Beene wrote:
 
  -Original Message-
  From: pagnu...@htdconnect.com
 
  BTW, a recently published cold D+D fusion patent application is -
  Deuterium Reactor  -- US 20130235963 A1
 
  ABSTRACT
  The Deuterium Reactor is a fusion reactor whose design is based upon
 a
  non-singular electrostatic required by the quantization of electric
  charge. This potential allows for a significant reduction in the
 fusion
  barrier of deuterium nuclei when these nuclei are held in close
  proximity,
  as within a crystal, and preconditioned using a magnetic field.
 
 
  Lou, interesting find, in a way.
 
   At first this application seemed nutty, but the inventor was funded
 by
  a
  small grant from:
 
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Head_Naval_Surface_Warfare_Center
 
  Whether that adds any credibility to the application is debatable.
 
  One might reasonably ask: what is a non-singular electrostatic
 required
  by
  the quantization of electric charge. Sounds cranky. Given the
 Quantum
  Hall
  Effect, it is hard to imagine what the inventor is talking about -
  unless
  he
  is invoking Mills' f/H or redundant ground states - from another
  perspective, or else Landau quantization.
 
  In regard to the later, the De Haas-van Alphen effect may indeed have
 a
  place in a hypothesis for nanomagnetism in LENR ... in the way that
  Ahern
  and others are suggesting, yet I do not remember seeing this effect
  mentioned before now.
 
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Haas%E2%80%93van_Alphen_effect
 
  Jones
 
 
 
 
 







Re: [Vo]:New LENR patent application from STMicroelectronics

2013-09-22 Thread pagnucco
Forgot to include this link:

http://www.google.com/patents/US20130243143

 Reactor for energy generation through low energy nuclear reactions (lenr)
 between hydrogen and transition metals and related method of energy
 generation  -  US 20130243143 A1

 ABSTRACT
 An embodiment of an apparatus includes a reaction chamber, a reaction
 unit, and an energy regulator. The reaction chamber includes an energy
 port, and the reaction unit is disposed in the reaction chamber and is
 configured to allow an energy-releasing reaction between first and second
 materials. And the energy regulator is configured to control a rate at
 which reaction-released energy exits the reaction chamber via the energy
 port. The reaction chamber may include a thermally conductive wall that
 forms a portion of the energy port, and the energy regulator may include a
 thermally conductive member and a mechanism configured to control a
 distance between the thermally conductive wall and the thermally
 conductive member. Furthermore, the reaction unit may include a mechanism
 configured to facilitate the reaction between the first and second
 materials, and may also include a mechanism configured to control a rate
 at which the reaction releases energy.