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Asked & Answered: Capricious Moderation We have had some interesting back & forth lately between skeptopaths and LENRphiles on Free Republic. Here is the latest: https://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/4004206/posts?page=42#42 To: *Kevmo* Just heat a body of water in a closed system reliably and

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practice that rarely ever happens, and the theory is saved by moving its goalposts. -- Original Message -- From: "Kevin O'Malley" To: "vortex-l" Sent: Sunday, 17 Oct, 21 At 01:38 Subject: Re: [Vo]:Asked & Answered Moving The Goalposts Skeptopaths constantly move

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Moving The Goalposts Skeptopaths constantly move the goalposts for LENR. This doesn't happen in any other area of science. https://www.lenr-forum.com/search-result/66261/?highlight=moving+goalposts On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 9:23 PM Kevin O'Malley wrote: > I'm growing weary of the same

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Here is an updated example of threadjacking by way of bringing up Rossi. https://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3999491/posts?page=41#41 On 1/19/14, Kevin O'Malley wrote: > There seems to be another thing that skeptopaths engage in. They try to > turn any LENR discussion into Andrea Rossi and his

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Update on moderation, and it just so happens it took place on a transmutation thread. - https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3977426/posts?page=19#19 --

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Case in Point. Moderation is heavy on certain threads in one direction, VERY light on LENR threads in the anti-science direction. - Laser induced transmutation on palladium thin films in hydrogen atmosphere 6/17/2021, 9:20:38 AM ·

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Kevin, you might consider a different explanation besides censorship or trolls. The internet gives anyone including the insane a chance to say anything they want. A significant fraction of the population is, in fact and by measurement, insane. These people are ignored unless they harm someone.

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Oh geez, here come the assholes again, jumping on their AssholeBandwagon. Typical of anti-science Luddites, they use tag team trolling techniques in their attempts at vigilante censorship.

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Tag Team Trolling is a form of vigilante censorship. They respond to each other's comments with inane criticisms that have zero, nothing, nada to do with the science behind the claims. The purpose of such comments is flamebait so that there is a response leading to the pulling of the thread

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Vigilante Censorship This is an excellent exchange showing such methodology in action. Note the crickets at the end of the thread. Typical of those who have nothing useful and honest to say. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2989565/posts?page=47#47

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I need a better term than skeptopath. . How about Aggressively Skeptical 'Humans' Obfuscating Lenr Endeavors (ASHOLEs)? On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 7:35 PM, Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com wrote: How to know you're dealing with a skeptopath: they won't read the simplest evidence put in

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Pulled Threads. Unfortunately, many of them were pulled from FR and my efforts to save them using Ubuntu software led to a debacle. --- http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/backroom/3088346/posts The thread wasn't

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True believer because they refuse to accept experimental falsification of their theories. On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 2:42 AM, Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com wrote: I need a better term than skeptopath. . How about Aggressively Skeptical 'Humans' Obfuscating Lenr Endeavors (ASHOLEs)? On

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LENR deniers. -Original Message- From: James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, Mar 6, 2014 9:27 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:Asked Answered True believer because they refuse to accept experimental falsification of their theories. On Thu, Mar 6

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pulled thread, migration to new thread. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2905533/posts?page=121#121 To: *Toddsterpatriot* We do know that Rossi refused a request to put meters on ALL electrical wires running to his contraption. In fact he was offered a million dollars to do so and still

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pulled thread, migration to new thread. -- To: *Kevmo* *Point out where the admin mod said that. * I don't need a mod to know that real conservatives aren't whiners. 122 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2905533/posts?page=122#122posted on *Wed 05 Mar 2014

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BULLSHIT!!!

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I need to update these figures. I realized I have been comparing OverUnity Apples to UnderUnity Oranges. Up until this week, Controlled Hot Fusion (CHF) experiments haven't even broken overunity, let alone ignition. *Nuclear fusion hits energy

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Pulled Threads. Unfortunately, many of them were pulled from FR and my efforts to save them using Ubuntu software led to a debacle. Here's my first new attempt. Looks like the mod is back from vacation. http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/post?id=3122363,26 In the *General/Chat* forum, on a

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Cold Fusion is a fraud, a lie. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3122281/posts?page=22 To: *Kevmo* Cold fusion is a lie. It doesn't exist anywhere in the universe aside from the fevered imaginations of the scammers and those duped into believing it. 14

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- What causes the anomalous excess heat? An hypothesis.http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3122363/posts - http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3122363/posts - Wed 12 Feb 2014 10:12:04 PM PST · 26 of 26http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3122363/posts?page=26#26 Kevmo

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To: *Toddsterpatriot* Kevmo: We could go and look at the sun long before that money was spent, Toddiot: Yes, and the sun is proof that fusion can produce useful amounts of energy. ***Yup, if you're 93 million miles away. And the fact that we spent hundreds of $billions and all we have to show

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This is the pedantic argument that solar energy is actually fusion energy, because the sun is a fusion reactor. Yes, it is, but from an engineering point of view it is ridiculous to classify solar energy as a form of fusion -- or as nuclear power, more broadly speaking. Space-based solar which

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I have seen some skeptopaths say that an HBomb is an example of Controlled Hot Fusion (CHF). This is, of course, an extremely stupid position. An HBomb is an UNcontrolled reaction. We have pissed hundreds of $billions trying to CONTROL that reaction, such as with lasers, magnetic confinement,

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, but it is unfair to anyone who has changed their ways. Dave -Original Message- From: Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, Jan 20, 2014 12:20 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:Asked Answered There seems to be another thing that skeptopaths engage

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There seems to be another thing that skeptopaths engage in. They try to turn any LENR discussion into Andrea Rossi and his past. LENR had 14,700 replications before Andrea Rossi ever showed up on the scene. And BTW, Wikipedia recently removed all the supposed convictions of fraud for Rossi,

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in many cases, but it is unfair to anyone who has changed their ways. Dave -Original Message- From: Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, Jan 20, 2014 12:20 am Subject: Re: [Vo]:Asked Answered There seems to be another thing

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On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 2:04 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: Under the LENR reaction, what if it is likely that multiple nuclear events happen simultaneously and in parallel to the same nucleus . Many reactions must be sequential and progressive to be realized.

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This may be true when there is one way for something to happen, but if there are many ways in which a reaction can happen, two or more events can proceed in parallel. In particle physics for example, energy that results from the collision of two protons will condense into many different and

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On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 9:34 AM, Sunil Shah s.u.n@hotmail.com wrote: This would produce a number of more (or less) likely chains of reactions, that together yield the EXACT mass spectrum of the transmutation products. I like this idea, too. Keeping track of potential transmutations is

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My current understanding about how LENR works involves the interaction of strong magnetic fields with the isospin properties of fermions. Isospin is a quantum mechanical property that is not related to orientation in space. Charge spin locking is a quantum mechanical interaction mechanism

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There is a claim that successive transmutations threw addition of protons or deuterons actually is an mass spectroscopy error made from formations of molecules. Some controls of the Japan result may have been made in US. I do not remember where I have read this. On Sat, 7 Dec 2013

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On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 4:09 PM, torulf.gr...@bredband.net wrote: There is a claim that successive transmutations threw addition of protons or deuterons actually is an mass spectroscopy error made from formations of molecules. I remember some details along those lines. Using mass spectrometry

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Regarding: *It took a while for me to go along with (7) and (8). It was only after I convinced myself that there really is something unusual happening that does not look like normal fusion that I became open to them.* Under the LENR reaction, what if it is likely that multiple nuclear events

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Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com wrote: This is a depressing exchange at FreeRepublic. That is a depressing website. ***Not normally. It's right wing politics. Most Vorts seem to be left wing. I think that most Vorts are not left or right wing, and not liberal or conservative. I think

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Nice insight. You got that exactly right: vorticians (and creative, open-minded people in general) seem to be at the low end of the authoritarianism scale, as defined by... who else? one Professor Altemeyer. LOL. I had previously thought of it more as cynicism towards politics... instead of left

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I cannot understand this obsession with excess heat as the sole criteria for the existence of the LENR reaction. Transmutation of elements is undisputable proof of the existence of LENR. This transmutation can be determined with extreme accuracy if its preparation and evaluation are done with

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Dear Axil here are alternatives for transmutations but no for heat energy. From its birth CF was considered an energy source. Energy is desired, transmutations rarely as for destruction of radioactive waste. Peter On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 6:20 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: I cannot

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: Fri, 6 Dec 2013 11:20:32 -0500 Subject: Re: [Vo]:Asked Answered From: janap...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com I cannot understand this obsession with excess heat as the sole criteria for the existence of the LENR reaction. Transmutation of elements is undisputable proof of the existence

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Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: I cannot understand this obsession with excess heat as the sole criteria for the existence of the LENR reaction. You cannot understand it because it does not exist. No one is obsessed with excess heat. However, as Martin Fleischmann said heat is the

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Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Nice insight. You got that exactly right: vorticians (and creative, open-minded people in general) seem to be at the low end of the authoritarianism scale, as defined by... who else? one Professor Altemeyer. LOL. Why is this funny? This is social

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Sunil Shah s.u.n@hotmail.com wrote: If the reactions are few there will be no heat measured, but the reactions are nonetheless happening! Good grief, we already know measuring heat is difficult.. It is a lot easier than measuring isotopic shifts in picogram samples of material mixed in

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From: Jed Rothwell Jones Beene wrote: Nice insight. You got that exactly right: vorticians (and creative, open-minded people in general) seem to be at the low end of the authoritarianism scale, as defined by... who else? one Professor Altemeyer. LOL. Why is this funny? . well,

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If people could measure transmutations, believe me, they would. They don't have the equipment, the expertise or the funding. How to do a cheap experiment demonstrating LENR through transmutation. Build a spectroscope using trash.

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which reactions are occurring, to help us find our way to the advantageous configuration (lots of heat). (Advantageous if you're interested in heat). .s From: jedrothw...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2013 13:57:21 -0500 Subject: Re: [Vo]:Asked Answered To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sunil Shah s.u.n

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Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Thus, Professor “Altemeyer” would loosely translate as “high level overseer” or … ta da: “authoritarian” and this is reflected in his chosen work, or specialty - authoritarianism. Ah. You should tell him. See what he says. He is a funny guy. There

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radius corresponding to mass. Or thereabouts *lol* Btw, Bockris sent lots of samples off to measure mass distribution after transmutation. .s Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2013 15:05:29 -0500 Subject: Re: [Vo]:Asked Answered From: janap...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com If people could measure

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Until people are sorted into governments that test their social theories, the Enlightenment will not have penetrated the social sciences, including political science. Only when people are sorted into governments that test their social theories will we have anything like true empirical support for

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It's either measurement error or fraud. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3098613/posts?page=12#12 To: *ZX12R* That position would be more likely than fusion achieved with low voltage. ***Well, that’s fascinating. Since the PF Anomalous Heat Effect has been replicated more than 14,700

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On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 8:40 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: This is a depressing exchange at FreeRepublic. That is a depressing website. ***Not normally. It's right wing politics. Most Vorts seem to be left wing. I gave up on discussions of this nature years ago. I figure

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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3097515/posts?page=62#62 What is amazing to me is that it’s OBVIOUSly an inductive pursuit right now to figure out LENR, otherwise WE WOULD BE BUYING THEM. But skeptopaths come onto inductive threads like this and act like their post is the end-all, be-all

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Perhaps this thread has deeper meanings then anyone realizes. I have been dealing with certain observations for a while and digesting them. Putting them in a format for observation. Trying to understand things that seem to have little or no meaning. Then later they seem to have greater meaning.

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This is a depressing exchange at FreeRepublic. That is a depressing website. I gave up on discussions of this nature years ago. I figure there is no point to arguing with people who will not do their homework. They have no interest in learning the truth. I think it is better to seek out people

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How to know you're dealing with a skeptopath: they won't read the simplest evidence put in front of them. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3095784/posts?page=32#32 To: *tacticalogic* *I'd be interested in a practical source of energy, and you keep hawking this like it is. Where's the

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One of the axioms utilized by H.L. Mencken in analyzing politics in the United States stated that Americans were unable to grasp arguments on their face and instead needed them recast in pure Manichean terms, with the most repellent of devils on one side and the purest of angels on the other.

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It does not make sense to compare AVErage to MAXimum, anyways, because it depends upon having access to so much data that one can take the average of it. So I'm going to revise this aspect of the Bang4TheBuck calculation into 1/2 the maximum. One half of 300MJ is 150MJ. One half of 6MJ is 3MJ.

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Basic derision ***That's all the skeptopaths seem to be able to muster. They can't counteract the science. They downshift into ridicule because they can get away with it. It's basically like saying, hey, look, I can be an asshole and get away with it, so that's what I'm going to do. It does

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Thanks for bumping the thread -- T4BTT LENR seems to have its own set of Anti-Science Truthers. In the last couple of years, there has been quite a bit of activity in the area of Low Energy Nuclear Reactions. Originally, the field was called Cold Fusion in 1989 when Pons Fleischmann announced

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On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 11:25 PM, Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.comwrote: But it is not an established ENGINEERING field ... But it is not an established THEORETICAL field ...

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Vigilante Censorship, censorship by thread spamming http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2981505/posts To: *Moonman62* *I’m going to continue to post to you under FR’s guidelines. Your interpretation of the guidelines is wrong. That’s why your repeated attempts to get me banned have

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Cold fusioneers cannot get a US patent Even anti-LENR anti-science Luddites acknowledge this is the case, and applaud it. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2981505/posts?page=13#13 To: *Moltke* *The patent office does not care whether or not it works. That’s for the *market* to decide.*

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LENR does NOT contradict current theory. LENR is a different phenomenon from hot fusion. Consequently the theory applied to hot fusion cannot be applied too cold fusion. We can only say that a piece of the puzzle is missing - nothing more. Ed On Aug 12, 2013, at 11:02 PM, Kevin O'Malley

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Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com wrote: Controlled Hot-Fusion has generated more energy for longer sustained periods. Until a few years ago the PPPL held the world record. 10 MW for about 0.6 s. (6 MJ). I think some other Tokamak topped that by a wide margin, but I am not sure. ***The

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Pons Fleischmann's results were never replicated. ***WHAT? Not Replicated? Where do you get that ridiculous and ignorant claim? Anomalous Heat Effect has been replicated hundreds of times by more than a thousand scientists, even in mainstream peer-reviewed journals.

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There is no conclusive theory. ***Same is true of high temperature superconductivity, but the skeptics don’t key up on that, do they? In addition, there is no conclusive theory of gravity. There’s the Law of Gravity, but no theory is settled -- there are several competing theories. Why does this

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Controlled Hot-Fusion has generated more energy for longer sustained periods. ***The average cold fusion experiment generates several hundred megajoules for several hours and costs maybe $300k. The longest lasting hot fusion experiment generated 6 megajoules for a few seconds. So if you look at

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just another fluff-piece from the margins of a marginal effect. ***If it is a marginal effect, then the world leaders in MEASurement would have said so. But instead, Scientific Instruments has said there is an anomalous effect here after looking into the MEASurements. Meanwhile, this latest

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LENR contradicts current theory. ***Experiment trumps theory ~Richard Feynman, Nobel Prize Winning Nuclear Physicist.

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I don’t know if these claims are ‘real’, I haven’t seen the device, nor personally ‘tested’ it. ***Raising the bar for cold fusion, lowering it for other things like hot fusion. You haven’t seen nor tested a huge range of scientific findings, but you aren’t engaged in hypercriticism of those