[libreoffice-website] Etherpad and Antispam
Hello, now that Etherpad is running per se (I just need to migrate the DB to MySQL when we go productive), I am thinking about antispeam measures. I know at least of one well-known Etherpad that was subject to spammers, pasting abusive links. In theory, this can also happen with the wiki, but we have a couple of antispam measures here, including user registration - whereas Etherpad doesn't support that at all, it's simply open for everyone, and I found no antispam plugin. In addition, there is no easy way of seeing new pads or checking the logs, like Volker and others do for us in the wiki. Actually, there are two ways around this from what I see: 1. We create a couple of predefined pads people regularly use, and have editing open for everyone, but disable creation of new pads. By that, we see in time when someone does something harmful. 2. We leave editing and creation of pads open, but only to users who authenticate themselves. #2 is more intrusive, and creates some pain with managing users, while #1 sounds like a sensible compromise to me. I'm not sure if I'm exaggerating - I simply lack hands-on experience, but the amount of spam we have to cope with in the wiki rang my alarm bells. ;-) For testing, #2 is what I have just enabled in Etherpad, and populated a couple of predefined pads at the same time, to see if we can work with it. Anyone has some more insight into that topic, and maybe some hands-on experience? Thanks, Florian -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: website+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-website] Re: Planet migrated
Hello, Stefan Knorr wrote on 2013-07-11 16:57: Ah… sorry for being so curt. No, I meant the URL to the current template. Also, what happened to the old CSS/template? Is that completely incompatible now? the current template is the one of the default's in Planet, visible at http://planet.documentfoundation.org It's not incompatible per se, but while I was migrating, I discovered the new templates has some more options, and the old one could use some polishing-up. ;-) Oskar kindly has sent me a proposal, which looks like this: http://mip-map.se/libreoffice/planet/ Florian -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: website+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: Planet migrated
Hello, Stefan Knorr wrote on 2013-07-11 16:57: Ah… sorry for being so curt. No, I meant the URL to the current template. Also, what happened to the old CSS/template? Is that completely incompatible now? the current template is the one of the default's in Planet, visible at http://planet.documentfoundation.org It's not incompatible per se, but while I was migrating, I discovered the new templates has some more options, and the old one could use some polishing-up. ;-) Oskar kindly has sent me a proposal, which looks like this: http://mip-map.se/libreoffice/planet/ Oskar's proposal is very nice, why not using it instead of Planet's default template?, meanwhile at least. ___ Escuelas Libres :: Porque la educación es mucho mejor cuando es libre www.escuelaslibres.org.ar --- Para entrenar, cualquier programa sirve. Para educar, sólo Software Libre. (Federico Heinz) --- -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: website+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: Planet migrated
Hello, Daniel A. Rodriguez wrote on 2013-07-12 13:01: Oskar's proposal is very nice, why not using it instead of Planet's default template?, meanwhile at least. Oskar put his files at https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/File:Planet.zip What's missing is to make a fully-fledged Planet template out of it, including the config file. Anyone want to have a look at this? Florian -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: website+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-design] Re: Planet migrated
Hi Florian, On 12 July 2013 12:45, Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org wrote: the current template is the one of the default's in Planet, visible at http://planet.documentfoundation.org Hm. Okay. I just assumed that since you said template and not stylesheet there was more to it than just CSS. It's not incompatible per se, but while I was migrating, I discovered the new templates has some more options, and the old one could use some polishing-up. ;-) Hmm ... right, but isn't at least a bit odd that now we can't even reach the old planet page to look at the old CSS without some IP that at least I don't know, when we're supposed to polish it? Oskar kindly has sent me a proposal, which looks like this: http://mip-map.se/libreoffice/planet/ Quite nice – thanks for linking to the preview. (Although, I'd love if the page as a whole were centered.) Astron. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: website+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] Etherpad and Antispam
On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 6:42 AM, Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org wrote: 2. We leave editing and creation of pads open, but only to users who authenticate themselves. #2 is more intrusive, and creates some pain with managing users, while #1 sounds like a sensible compromise to me. I'm not sure if I'm exaggerating - I simply lack hands-on experience, but the amount of spam we have to cope with in the wiki rang my alarm bells. ;-) Fair enough -- if there is a legitimate concern of spam, best to address the problem as early as possible. For testing, #2 is what I have just enabled in Etherpad, and populated a couple of predefined pads at the same time, to see if we can work with it. Anyone has some more insight into that topic, and maybe some hands-on experience? I don't have experience with spam on Etherpad, but we have been using Etherpad for minutes of the QA Team meetings. It's handy for people to be able to see the minutes as I type them out and for them to make small corrections when the audio on the call is garbled, I misspell a name, etc. As long as all of the people who want to join-in on the QA call can use the pad, then #2 is fine with me. --R -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: website+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-website] Etherpad and Antispam
On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 10:43 AM, Robinson Tryon bishop.robin...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 6:42 AM, Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org wrote: 2. We leave editing and creation of pads open, but only to users who authenticate themselves. ... For testing, #2 is what I have just enabled in Etherpad, and populated a couple of predefined pads at the same time, to see if we can work with it. I just did some testing the /qa and the /test pads, and edited, changed styles and colors, and even deleted the /test pad (oops!) without any type of authentication (at least as far as I could tell... :-) It does appear that I'm unable to create new pads, or to recreate the /test pad. Is it possible that you enabled option #1 (all edit, disable new pad creation) instead of #2 (authenticated edit)? In any case, I'd like to find a solution where our pads won't be intentionally/accidentally deleted out from underneath us. IIRC that might be a plugin that we can disable? Cheers, --R -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: website+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/website/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
