Re: [Webware-discuss] Consolidating the infrastructure

2015-11-28 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
Sounds good. -Chuck On Sat, Nov 28, 2015 at 11:09 AM, Steve Schwarz wrote: > Hi Christoph, > Sounds like a great idea. > Thanks for maintaining this project! > > Best Regards, > Steve > Blogs: http://agilitynerd.com/ http://tech.agilitynerd.com/ > Dog Agility Search:

Re: [Webware-discuss] Adapters

2010-07-01 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
if you have two applications including serving up the opposite app for a given URL or reporting a 404 if the other app doesn't have that path. -Chuck On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 12:58 AM, Oliver Bock oli...@g7.org wrote: Is this a trick question?  mod_webkit2 On 01/07/2010, at 4:54 PM, Chuck

Re: [Webware-discuss] Adapters

2010-07-01 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 3:02 AM, Christoph Zwerschke c...@online.de wrote: I'm running it for years in production on SUSE Linux, the stability and performance have been outstanding. Got it also running on Windows (precompiled dlls are shipped with Webware). Same here, but I'm on a new server

[Webware-discuss] Cannot download from SF

2009-04-01 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
Hi, I'm trying to download Webware 1.0.1 but it completes almost immediately with zero bytes. I've tried Windows and Mac and .tar.gz vs. .zip. I know this is an SF issue given the URL (http://downloads.sourceforge.net/webware/Webware-1.0.1.tar.gz), but is there anywhere else to download from?

Re: [Webware-discuss] Cannot download from SF

2009-04-01 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 12:22 PM, Chuck Esterbrook chuck.esterbr...@gmail.com wrote: I'm trying to download Webware 1.0.1 but it completes almost immediately with zero bytes. I've tried Windows and Mac and .tar.gz vs. .zip. ... Working now. I'll upload to my site later today. -Chuck -- http

Re: [Webware-discuss] Cannot download from SF

2009-04-01 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Christoph Zwerschke c...@online.de wrote: Chuck Esterbrook wrote: I know this is an SF issue given the URL (http://downloads.sourceforge.net/webware/Webware-1.0.1.tar.gz), but is there anywhere else to download from? I have no problems using either URL

Re: [Webware-discuss] Webware Wiki update

2009-01-03 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
Nice work. The list of features is impressive and more than I was expecting. -Chuck -- http://cobra-language.com/ -- ___ Webware-discuss mailing list

Re: [Webware-discuss] forward() and Session mgmt

2007-12-17 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
On Dec 17, 2007 12:31 PM, Ben Parker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey all - Calls to forward() will invoke the complete awake/respond/sleep cycle within the outer awake/respond/sleep cycle of the parent transaction. This means that if a servlet forwards a request to another servlet, then the

Re: [Webware-discuss] kwargs and webware

2007-04-26 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
On 4/26/07, tsume [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was just using SQLAlchemy as an example. Much of TG seems to lean more towards using kwargs than nonkwargs, as in the scheduler examples. turbogears.scheduler.add_interval_task(action=do_something, taskname='do_something', initialdelay=0,

Re: [Webware-discuss] Next version. Was: Possible bug?

2007-03-19 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
On 3/18/07, Christoph Zwerschke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeremy Kaplan wrote: This is good stuff. Any idea when a 0.9.3 version will be available for use? I'd like to sneak this into my current schedule, but need to plan for managing risk, etc. There are still some issue on my list

[Webware-discuss] Examples - 404

2007-01-31 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
Does anyone else get a 404 Not found for http://localhost:8080/Examples/ on a fresh Webware setup out of the repository? Other things work fine for me including: /Admin /Docs /MKBrowser /Testing PSPExamples fails with an internal error that it cannot import a module from Examples. I ignored

Re: [Webware-discuss] Examples - 404

2007-01-31 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
On 1/31/07, Chuck Esterbrook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/31/07, Christoph Zwerschke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chuck Esterbrook wrote: Does anyone else get a 404 Not found for http://localhost:8080/Examples/ on a fresh Webware setup out of the repository? Just tested this under Win

Re: [Webware-discuss] Examples - 404

2007-01-31 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
On 1/31/07, Chuck Esterbrook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/31/07, Chuck Esterbrook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/31/07, Christoph Zwerschke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chuck Esterbrook wrote: Does anyone else get a 404 Not found for http://localhost:8080/Examples/ on a fresh Webware

Re: [Webware-discuss] Examples - 404

2007-01-31 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
On 1/31/07, Chuck Esterbrook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/31/07, Chuck Esterbrook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/31/07, Chuck Esterbrook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 1/31/07, Christoph Zwerschke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chuck Esterbrook wrote: Does anyone else get a 404 Not found

Re: [Webware-discuss] Webware/Apache Threading Problem?

2006-09-14 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
On 9/14/06, Christoph Zwerschke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: os.chdir = bad_chdir I think that is not a bad idea. Maybe we can also add a note that it is ok to use chdir in your own subprocesses. Any other dangerous functions that we could mask that way? -- Chris Not that I can think of.

Re: [Webware-discuss] Webware/Apache Threading Problem?

2006-09-12 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
On 9/12/06, Dan Milstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't have any kind of answer, but I've had a similar thing come up, so I'll pass it on, in case it helps narrow the focus: - In my dev environment (Webware 0.8.1 / Apache 2 / Mac OS X 10.4), when I do large file uploads, it freezes the

Re: [Webware-discuss] question about MiddleKit

2006-08-11 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
On 8/9/06, remi jolin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chuck Esterbrook a écrit : On 8/9/06, remi jolin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's true. Setting the back reference doesn't automatically add the object to the list. Instead, adding to the list sets the back ref. I never thought much

Re: [Webware-discuss] monitor.py

2006-05-27 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
I have a little Python program that you can use on any URL that it will periodically retrieve. It spits out a CSV log file so you can review the results later on, as well as console output. I'll dig it up and send it as an attachment. -Chuck On 5/27/06, Mark Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [Webware-discuss] 0.9.1 waiting on futex call

2006-05-19 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
On 5/19/06, Tim Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 18 May 2006 15:00:03 -0700, Mark Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Problem solved. It turns out the Fedora Core 2 does not support Python 2.4.x. I set the default python to Python 2.3.4 and, so far, all seems well. What does that mean

Re: [Webware-discuss] 0.9.1 waiting on futex call

2006-05-19 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
On 5/19/06, Mark Phillips [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 19, 2006, at 10:21 AM, Chuck Esterbrook wrote: Maybe I missed this in a previous thread, but is it possible to upgrade to, say for example, Fedore Core 4? I would be so happy if they did. So far, the sys op says it would be a big job

Re: [Webware-discuss] no response from Webware

2006-05-16 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
My best guess (and it is a guess) is that the port for the WebKit app server is locked down and needs to be opened up. It's been months--maybe more than a year--since I messed with iptables so I can't get real specific. But maybe you can give the port number to your admin and ask him to look into

Re: [Webware-discuss] MiddleKit

2006-03-14 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
On 3/14/06, marcelo schiavone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, does someone know the way of doing that MiddleKit works with a remote (existing) database, using MSSQL? The database already exists and the idea is to realize an application in Webware in another PC that accedes to the above mentioned

Re: [Webware-discuss] The appserver crash when high demand?

2006-01-22 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
On 1/21/06, Christoph Zwerschke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: marcelo ametller wrote: I have a servlet, with a form, a button with label generate. When the user press the button, de action run a function, it generate a pdf (reportlab). When the pdf have 200 items, that's ok. But when the pdf

Re: [Webware-discuss] Upgrade to Python 2.4, MiddleKit and DateTime confusion -- Found problem

2006-01-04 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
Thanks for the update! I actually keep my context next to my app dir to remind myself that they are separate and can be swapped in and out. One doesn't have to be nested inside the other. So I have something like: appname/ rundir/ -- the app work dir webapp/ -- the context weblib/

Re: [Webware-discuss] Upgrade to Python 2.4, MiddleKit and DateTime confusion

2005-12-30 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
On 12/30/05, Roger Haase [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Chuck Esterbrook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... I maintain MiddleKit and I'll help you work through this. Did you regen your MK source code? If so and you still have the problem, can you send me your GenUser.py so I can look at it? I

Re: [Webware-discuss] I can't set webware appserver options any longer

2005-10-07 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
On 10/4/05, Christoph Zwerschke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm on windows and I like to turn autoreload on when I'm developing (I leave it off during production) so i would from the command line run Appserver.bat --AppServer.AutoReload=1 I haven't looked into

Re: [Webware-discuss] I can't set webware appserver options any longer

2005-10-07 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
On 10/7/05, Jose Galvez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not using 98 any longer so I really don't care if we stop supporting 98. Now having said that I wonder how many of us Windoz suffers are still using webware on 98 rather then XP or one of the 200X server platforms. For windows rather then

Re: [Webware-discuss] howto check for https connection?

2005-10-05 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
On 10/5/05, Martin Matusiak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need a way to check whether the current servlet was accessed through https or not. If not, I want to rewrite the url to https and inform the user. How can I check this? I'm using webware 0.8. Here is what I do in one of my apps: In

Re: [Webware-discuss] Benchmark WebWare vs. CGI, psycopg PostgreSQL, Linux

2005-09-20 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
On 9/19/05, Gregor Horvath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I am evaluationg using Webware instead of plain python CGI. I therefore run some benchmark tests, and discovered that there is no difference in time needed between the webware and the cgi script. I am a little bit surprised, because I

Re: [Webware-discuss] Benchmark WebWare vs. CGI, psycopg PostgreSQL, Linux

2005-09-20 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
On 9/20/05, Stephan Diehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 20 September 2005 08:50, Gregor Horvath wrote: Hi, I am evaluationg using Webware instead of plain python CGI. [...] def testcgi(): for i in range(100): u.urlopen(http://localhost/cgi-bin/perftestcgi.py;)

Re: [Webware-discuss] Printing from web application

2005-09-20 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
On 9/20/05, Gregor Horvath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Eduardo Elgueta schrieb: I was checking out reportlab, but it seems a lot of work, and I couldn't find tables support. I use reportlab. Has some learning curve, but its worth it. It has tables support. Look at Platypus. I

Re: [Webware-discuss] Wiki spam

2005-09-18 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
On 9/17/05, Christoph Zwerschke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Webware Wiki is currently in a very desolate state due to some Chinese Wiki spammers. Some users have tried to remove the spam manually, but that seems to be even more difficult than Sysiphus' task. I would help if some trusted

Re: [Webware-discuss] Release 0.9 beta 2 available

2005-08-04 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
On 8/4/05, Olivier FAVRE-SIMON [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: = Are there major changes in disk layout of webware AppDir, that would make upgrading this ebuild file from 0.8.1 to 0.9 more than trivial renames of some files ? Not that I can recall. -Chuck

[Webware-discuss] Re: Problems Upgrading from 0.8.1 (was:Cloning MiddleKit Objects)

2005-08-03 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
On 8/3/05, Seth Remington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The main issue I'm running into is with UserKit and UserManagerToMiddle Kit. One issue appears to be a bug: Fixed. -Chuck --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migration

Re: [Webware-discuss] Cloning MiddleKit Objects

2005-08-02 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
On 8/2/05, Seth Remington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello All, I have a need to clone instances of my MiddleKit objects and so far I have come up with this: Seth, another developer needed this and enhanced MiddleKit.Run.MiddleObject by adding a clone() method. I recently had cause to use it

Re: [Webware-discuss] Corrupted File Uploads and mod_webkit2

2005-07-25 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
On 7/25/05, deelan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it happens that the curruption problem of uploaded files remember me of something... IIRC problem was fixed some time ago but only in the trunk. also, only mod_webkit2 was affected by the problem. ah, i got it: thread Image Upload Issue.

Re: [Webware-discuss] My mod_webkit problems and solution

2005-07-25 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
On 7/25/05, Geoffrey Talvola [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I too have had some recent problems with mod_webkit. It's a long story: I use mod_webkit2 on all my production systems with no problems. In all cases, both Apache and WebKit are running on the same Linux system. I think mod_webkit2 was

Re: [Webware-discuss] Corrupted File Uploads and mod_webkit2

2005-07-25 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
On 7/25/05, michelts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi guys, I having a similar problem, but the files is not corrupted, the whole [snip] The problematic server is python-hosting.com, do you think my problem occour because this too? The server is a webware0.8.1 running with mod_webkit2 too, the

Re: [Webware-discuss] Corrupted File Uploads and mod_webkit2

2005-07-24 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
Can you give exact versions of your op sys, Python, Webware, Apache and browser? Does your form tag have: method=POST enctype=multipart/form-data ? Does it happen for every PDF you try or just some? Are other file types like JPG corrupted? -Chuck On 7/24/05, Seth Remington [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Webware-discuss] New DebugAppServer in Subversion

2005-07-17 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
Geoff, This is fantastic and long overdue in WebKit! Thanks for beating me to it. I noticed that WebKit was still catching exceptions and dumping them to the console. This meant the Python debugger could not trap them in order to let me inspect the live application. I fixed this and just checked

Re: [Webware-discuss] Where is next tgz version?

2005-07-07 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
I make updates to Webware's source code as we need enhancements or fixes. I've been hoping for a long time that someone would take over the releases so we could spread some more of the work around, but so far that hasn't happened. The releases that is. Other work, like migrating the repository to

Re: [Webware-discuss] Shouldn't Super work with webkit?

2005-06-26 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
around this? Jose Chuck Esterbrook wrote: Try changing the class declaration in WebKit/Object.py to: class Object(object, NamedValueAccess): and then I think it will start working. I've been running like this for months and plan on checking in this change in sometime soon. Let

Re: [Webware-discuss] find client IP in XMLRPCServlet

2005-05-12 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
On Thu, 12 May 2005 13:20:50 -0500, John Dickinson wrote:  Does the Webware framework provide any methods for finding the  client's IP address (or cannonical name)? Specifically, I'd like to  be able to get it from a subclass of XMLRPCServlet. I looked  through the WebKit (v 0.8.1) code, but I

Re: [Webware-discuss] mod_webkit2 and suse

2005-03-18 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
On Fri, 18 Mar 2005 09:02:02 +0100, Robert Forkel wrote:  hi,  some time ago i posted about problems getting mod_webkit2 to work  with SuSE's apache2 installation. Just wanted to inform you that it  actually does work. problem was not webkit but the IMHO overly  complicated default server

Re: [Webware-discuss] Session expiration?

2005-03-01 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
On Tue, 1 Mar 2005 17:21:18 -0800, Greg McClure wrote:  Hey all.  I suppose I'm not understanding Webware sessions very well. I'm  trying to detect if a session has expired by doing what seems  obvious:  if self.session().isExpired():  etc ... Here are some quick tips that may help: * In

Re: [Webware-discuss] getting started with middlekit - code generation?

2005-02-26 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 18:28:31 -0500, lloyd wrote:  middlekit's postgresql code generation appears to presume a  separate database for each project/model.  is it possible to use a  table prefix to distinguish models instead of a separate database?  eg instead of a fooproj database with item and

RE: [Webware-discuss] MultiSelectField - type of value

2005-02-25 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 12:02:07 -0800, Ben Parker wrote:  In order for cgi.FieldStorage to convert a single request value to  a list it would have to know what control was used to display the  field. Isn't this really a feature of the HTTP spec? There's  nothing in a POST or a GET to describe what

Re: [Webware-discuss] MultiSelectField - type of value

2005-02-24 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 13:11:12 -0500, Matt Feifarek wrote:  Hi Steve.  We remembered why we did this: it's Webkit's fault. Or perhaps it  is the fault of cgi.FieldStorage.  Even if you take FormKit out of the equation, a multiple-select  input tag works this way. We can certainly fix this via  

Re: [Webware-discuss] Running servlets from .pyc files

2005-02-18 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 08:56:54 -0800, jacob martinson wrote:  Is it possible to setup WebKit to run servlets from compiled code (*  .pyc) rather than source files?  Using python from the command line on compiled files works, like:  python someapp.pyc  and also:  $ python  import someapp  I

[Webware-discuss] Senior Developer Needed

2004-10-18 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
NOTE: Send resumes to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Senior Developer Needed: An established D.C.-based web design and software development firm is immediately seeking a Senior Developer to design and build custom web applications for its high-visibility clients. The ideal candidate should possess at least

Re: [Webware-discuss] MiddleKit broken or major design change in CVS head?

2004-08-25 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 10:57:52 -0700 (PDT), Roger Haase wrote: The current CVS head for Middlekit now generates and expects the serialNum field for all SQL tables to be called serialNum where before the serialNum field for each table would be called tablename + Id. This breaks a lot of

Re: TaskiKit (Was: [Webware-discuss] Toward a new release: request for thought and discussion)

2004-08-07 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
On Sat, 07 Aug 2004 13:43:44 -0400, Matt Feifarek wrote: It is CERTAINLY not my point of view that these other kits have no value... it's merely my opinion that Webware/webkit should be pared down to the essentials, with these other kits being plug-ins. It's difficult to say what is essential.

[Webware-discuss] Re: WebWare sourceforge updates?

2004-04-05 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
On Mon, 5 Apr 2004 00:04:34 -0700, Ben Bangert wrote: Hi Chuck, I've been reviewing web framworks to use for an upcoming project, and stumbled across WebWare. It looks quite slick and appeals to me on a variety of levels. The mailing lists seem to be active, however the site doesn't appear

Re: [Webware-discuss] The hosting factor...

2004-04-05 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
On Tue, 6 Apr 2004 07:49:47 +1000, Oliver Bock wrote: The other sticking point is that no one wants you to have long running processes, e.g. WebKit. That is true. It's not even worth trying to set up WebKit on a shared host unless they specifically support it. I don't think the situation

Re: [Webware-discuss] What's in a style

2004-03-29 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
I agree with everything Ian said here. -Chuck -- http://ChuckEsterbrook.com/ On Mon, 29 Mar 2004 16:06:29 -0600, Ian Bicking wrote: Todd Grimason wrote: This was discussed in regards to a logo for Python overall, to the point that heads exploded, but I'll mention it anyway: You generally

Re: [Webware-discuss] Logo

2004-03-27 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 17:12:26 -0500, Todd Grimason wrote: In addition to Ben's good points above, I'd like to confirm/clarify a few details: - is the full name 'Webware' or 'Webware for Python'? When I started Webware, there were already other Webwares (but none of them were app servers).

RE: [Webware-discuss] Where does the MKBrowser context come from?

2004-03-18 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
On Thu, 18 Mar 2004 09:39:02 -0500, Geoffrey Talvola wrote: CLIFFORD ILKAY wrote: Hi, I used the MakeAppWorkDir script to create a working directory in /home/webware with a default context of test. I commented out everything but the default context, test, in Configs/Application.config and

Re: [Webware-discuss] Request headers and basic HTTP auth

2004-03-17 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
scheme -- what people see at any given URL could be  quite different depending on who they are.  Is there anything useful in UserKit to build on?  Has Chuck Esterbrook abandoned us? LOL. Well I don't know if that answer has a yes or no to it. I've made quite a few improvements to MiddleKit

[Webware-discuss] San Diego Webware Presentation

2003-06-16 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
Hi, I'll be presenting Webware for first time users at the San Diego Python user's group, known as SANDPYT, this Thursday at 7pm. If you're in the San Diego area, please stop by! http://sandpyt.org/ -- Chuck http://ChuckEsterbrook.com

Re: [Webware-discuss] Zope vs Webware (Not Really)

2003-06-15 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
On Thursday 12 June 2003 06:16 am, Geoffrey Talvola wrote: This has bitten some people on this mailing list in the past because of bugs in database adapters. And right now I'm trying to track down a problem where I have a servlet that makes an HTTPS request to another web site (using Python's

[Webware-discuss] Take the Webware Survey!

2003-02-28 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
Hello everyone, Your response to this survey is totally voluntary and anonymous, but it would be very helpful if you do respond! Your answers will influence the future of Webware. You may respond to the survey by clicking the following URL: http://www.AdvancedSurvey.com When you arrive at

Re: [Webware-discuss] Thoughts on UserKit...

2003-02-28 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
On Friday 28 February 2003 12:48 am, Ian Bicking wrote: Okay, so we have different backends, like UserKit does currently. So, what does the frontend do? And I realized... almost nothing. Users have an ID, and they probably have a username, password, email, and name. Not complex stuff. My

Re: [Webware-discuss] MiddleKit versus ZODB

2003-02-28 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
On Friday 28 February 2003 07:37 am, Edmund Lian wrote: I have a question... please don't get offended by it, I don't mean it to be offensive... While I'm not a great fan of object oriented DBs, I do see a role for them in providing persistence when the demands of an application are

Re: [Webware-discuss] Re: Webware-discuss digest

2003-02-28 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
On Wednesday 31 December 1969 04:00 pm, James R. Phillips wrote: At the end of the survey you can see the results. I saw a request for a Powered by Webware logo, I could really use something like that on my home page. You can see at http://zunzun.com I made my own lame-o one. BTW, someone

[Webware-discuss] The Thought Police Have Arrived

2003-02-28 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
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[Webware-discuss] Webware Sandbox [was: Thoughts on UserKit...]

2003-02-28 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
when we get it or look for another solution if we don't. My point is you could upload all your shareables there. I'll certainly be uploading several of mine. -Chuck On Friday 28 February 2003 11:22 am, Matt Feifarek wrote: Chuck Esterbrook wrote: Those starter pages can be a bore to trudge

Re: [Webware-discuss] Survey results

2003-02-28 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
On Friday 28 February 2003 11:15 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I took the Webware survey, but when I clicked the button at the end to see the results, it took me back to the main page. I clicked the Results tab but it said I had to have an account. So I created a basic account, but there it

Re: [Webware-discuss] Webware Application Design Patterns

2003-02-26 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
On Monday 24 February 2003 11:59 pm, Jeremy Lowery wrote: After this bugger is up and running I'm probably going to hack webware and make it auto compile tmpl files and stick the template-servlets into a cache var directory, thus removing the need for cheetah compile and all the extra files

Re: [Webware-discuss] Comments about Twisted?

2003-02-26 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
On Tuesday 25 February 2003 09:51 am, Clark C. Evans wrote: model as a two parts (not 4: transaction, response, request, page) *Conceptually* a response and a request *are* different things. Take cookies for example. They both have them, but a request contains the cookies that the

Re: [Webware-discuss] How to edit objects in Middle Kit?

2003-02-26 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
On Wednesday 26 February 2003 01:26 am, Bogdan wrote: subj. I find no descriptions in doc's except Future versions of MKBrowser will allow queries and editing. But I dont plane to use MKBrowser not now or in future. Bogdan, * From Python, I edit my objects like so:

[Webware-discuss] Webware Contractors

2003-02-26 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
* I've been doing contract work with Webware for almost three years now (since version 0.2!). My current contract is winding down and I'm looking for additional work. If you're interested at all, here is the pitch: http://ChuckEsterbrook.com/for-hire/ * I'm not the only

[Webware-discuss] cvs update: MiscUtils.Funcs.wordWrap

2002-11-13 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
New function in cvs. Example: from MiscUtils.Funcs import wordWrap print wordWrap(someString, 65) --- This sf.net email is sponsored by: Are you worried about your web server security? Click here for a FREE Thawte Apache SSL Guide and

Re: [Webware-discuss] WebUtils.HTMLTag.pprint anomaly

2002-11-12 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
On Monday 11 November 2002 11:50 pm, David McNab wrote: PS I've taken a lot of shit on #python for doing this. People seem to think that only lamers use CGI for Python, and ignore any arguments that commercial hosts with Zope are in the tiniest minority and are much mroe expensive. Not to

Re: [Webware-discuss] WebUtils.HTMLTag.pprint anomaly

2002-11-11 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
Hi David, I wrote WebUtils.HTMLTag in order to parse HTML for the purposes of [a] validating it (since HTMLTag is fairly strict about structural nesting) and [b] examining it (think blackbox regression test suite). I never imagined it would ever be used to _generate_ HTML. :-) The pretty

[Webware-discuss] cvs update

2002-11-10 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
MiscUtils and everywhere: * Rename SubclassResponsibilityError to the more reasonable AbstractError. The former is still available as a deprecated name for projects that might use it. Also, pass self.__class__ as in: raise AbstractError, self.__class__ which makes the resulting

[Webware-discuss] cvs update

2002-11-10 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
MiscUtils: * New module MiscUtils/PickleCache.py contains a generic version of the code I wrote in MiddleKit yesterday, to cache pickled versions of files next to their originals. See docstring for details. (Obviously, MK uses this now.) * DataTable now uses PickleCache so basically .csv

[Webware-discuss] Re: What happened to MAWUG

2002-11-08 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
programmed with either :-) I guess for doing double clickable types of applications (somewhat like WebObjects Direct to Java) we'd need to use TCL/TK with Webware? Thanks, -- Aaron On Friday, November 8, 2002, at 12:16 PM, Chuck Esterbrook wrote: Hi Aaron, I ended up changing my web

Re: [Webware-discuss] MiddleKit references

2002-11-05 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
I added your paper to: http://webware.sourceforge.net/Papers/ On Sunday 03 November 2002 12:13 pm, Jason Hildebrand wrote: I gave a talk on Webware at LinuxTag 2002, which has a section on MiddleKit and includes an example schema, Classes.csv and Samples.csv files. The paper is

Re: [Webware-discuss] Deprecating OneShot.cgi

2002-11-05 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
On Tuesday 05 November 2002 12:38 am, Ian Bicking wrote: Okay. I don't have any desire to document OneShot for new users -- I'd probably just want to leave it out of the user guide (or only have a very small note), and move what documentation there is to the reference documentation. Ian

Re: [Webware-discuss] MiddleKit references

2002-11-05 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
On Tuesday 05 November 2002 09:39 am, Jason Hildebrand wrote: If these requirements are general enough, I'll document this and commit the fix to CVS.  What do you think, Chuck? Sounds great to me! Additional thoughts for the implementation: - There is already a boolean self._threaded. The

Re: [Webware-discuss] Deprecating OneShot.cgi

2002-11-04 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
I delivered a project for pay on a box that I had NO control over. OneShot was the ONLY way that I could get it working. Because the box was fast and the traffic was fairly low, it worked like a charm. I believe OneShot is still useful for this purpose. I have to veto the deprecation because

[Webware-discuss] cvs update: MiddleKit fix

2002-10-29 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
Bottom line: If you are using MiddleKit, please update to the latest cvs. A new test case in the test suite covers the (old) bug and all pre-existing test cases pass. I fixed an obscure bug involving _inherited_ obj refs when they have to be UPDATEd post-INSERT of the containing object. A

Re: [Webware-discuss] MiddleKit SQL clause

2002-10-28 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
On Sunday 27 October 2002 07:17 am, Michael Montagne wrote: How do I pass an SQL statement containing joins of different classes to MySQLObjectStore? It appears I can only return rows from one table using fetchObjectsOfClass. Are all updates to tables intended to be through the classes

Re: A common user management API? (Was: Re: [Webware-discuss] Status of UserKit [was: Force saving of UserKit users])

2002-10-28 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
On Monday 28 October 2002 01:08 pm, Kendall Grant Clark wrote: I don't see any reason why core Webware developers can't take the lead in inquiring about the possibilities here. While I'm not a core developer, I would be willing to 1) do a bit of googlework to determine the state of user

[Webware-discuss] [cvs update] MiddleKit database name

2002-10-26 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
MiddleKit (MK) uses the object model's name for the database name. You can now override that by specifying it in Settings.config: 'Database': 'foobar', You can also pass it to the constructor, which overrides everything: store = MySQLObjectStore(db='foobar', user='prog',

Re: [Webware-discuss] PSP: Set class vars?

2002-08-12 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
On Monday 12 August 2002 06:05 am, Geoff Talvola wrote: I take it you don't want the overhead of calling a method, otherwise you would have just defined a method that returned a bool. Correct. One possibility without changing the PSP syntax is to write 2 base classes in a Python module,

[Webware-discuss] OSCON 2002

2002-07-21 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
I'll be at OSCON on Wednesday in the Exhibit Hall in case anyone wants to meet and chew the fat. I should be wearing a Webware polo shirt (and passing a couple out), but the order hasn't come in yet. http://conferences.oreillynet.com/os2002/ -Chuck

[Webware-discuss] Webware Polo Shirts!

2002-07-02 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
I plan on hitting the exhibit hall at OSCON 2002 so I'm getting polo shirts with Webware on them. The front will say something like: Webware for Python http://webware.sf.net/ - Left justified. - First line is biggest. - Sans serif font. For at least my shirts, I also plan on putting

Re: [Webware-discuss] Solaris Webkit startup issues

2002-06-21 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
On Friday 21 June 2002 02:48 pm, Chris Backas wrote: So, testing from the command line, we found that if we use bash instead (which is what sh IS on RedHat) the script works just fine and the Appserver starts. What we did was to write a stub-script which poses as 'webkit' and just invokes the

Re: [Webware-discuss] OT: Python editor recommendation?

2002-06-20 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
On Thursday 20 June 2002 09:13 am, Mike Orr wrote: I use vim for editing, mainly because of the syntax highlighting and because I'm used to the keystrokes.  Pressing / + word + enter is so much faster and more convenient than pressing ctrl-F (or alt-F or ctrl-shift-F?) and waiting for the

Re: [Webware-discuss] OT: Python editor recommendation?

2002-06-20 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
On Thursday 20 June 2002 11:11 am, Tavis Rudd wrote:  Except using ''' for doc strings! Emacs proponents often push a subset of Python, in order that it work better with their editor. That's very odd, from a language perspective. What subset?  The only other thing we've had debates about

Re: [Webware-discuss] HTTPResponse.write

2002-06-18 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
On Tuesday 18 June 2002 11:58 am, Jeff Johnson wrote: So would there be much of a performance hit to replace HTTPResponse's write with the one in Page?  And could we add writeln while we're at it? Jeff, my idea was to keep HTTPResponse's write() as fast (and therefore, as simple) as possible

Re: [Webware-discuss] MiddleKit code generation and 2.2 properties

2002-06-12 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
On Wednesday 12 June 2002 11:15 am, Chris Prinos wrote: Of course, this only works in 2.2, but seems like you could control the code gen behavior in the Settings.config file that the generator uses. Are there any plans for this kind of modification to the generator? (responses such as feel

[Webware-discuss] Potential bug?

2002-06-10 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
The __init__.py in my context does not execute at all. The only special circumstance is that I'm running off a MakeAppWorkDir instance. Has anyone had this problem, or can recreate it? I'm using Webware cvs, Python 2.1.x, Mandrake Linux 8.1 and WebKit.cgi. -Chuck

Re: [Webware-discuss] RE: Web testing

2002-06-07 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
On Friday 07 June 2002 12:37 am, Stephan Diehl wrote: Just a thought... why not keep the XML config, but use a preprocessed form? That's fine. There's also a language for these types of things called YAML. http://www.yaml.org/ But this doesn't address the issue of cutting off the framework

[Webware-discuss] And here are some more...

2002-06-07 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
...short hands for structured data/XML. http://www.yaml.org/link.html I like the Python-like one the best. :-) ___ Don't miss the 2002 Sprint PCS Application Developer's Conference August 25-28 in Las Vegas --

[Webware-discuss] Web testing

2002-06-06 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
Has anyone ever used or investigated both of these? e.g., how do they compare? http://puffin.sourceforge.net/ http://webunit.sourceforge.net/ And I suppose the authors can throw in their comments, if they like! -Chuck ___ Don't

[Webware-discuss] Re: Web testing

2002-06-06 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
On Thursday 06 June 2002 06:10 pm, A. Keyton Weissinger wrote: In the mean time, let me ask you (all) to consider this question: Would you still want a script-based version as much if a GUI prevented your exposure to the XML nastiness? In your experience with QA professionals, do you think it

[Webware-discuss] Interesting problem

2002-06-04 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
I just got a WebKit exception report that HTTPRequest.serverURL() couldn't find an HTTP_HOST environment variable. In fact, all 11 HTTP_FOOBAR variables were missing, while all other ones were present. The only other distinguishing characteristic in the report was that the REQUEST_METHOD was

Re: [Webware-discuss] Interesting problem

2002-06-04 Thread Chuck Esterbrook
On Tuesday 04 June 2002 11:16 am, Ian Bicking wrote: Was your HEAD request also HTTP/0.9 like this (i.e., no protocol version specified)?  Apache might not specify the host if you don't specify it when you connect.  Most requests will look like: GET /webkit/MyApp HTTP/1.1 Host: localhost

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