[whatwg] Canvas implementors

2013-10-08 Thread Michael Norton
Hello Whatwg, I am about to submit a request for funding to U.S. to implement a web integrity service to bring a digital spectrometer to the browser market in order to help cohere and decohere device-independent online data assets oft shared among public and private sectors. Such should be

Re: [whatwg] Should onfoo event handler properties be on Element or HTMLElement?

2013-10-08 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 4:26 PM, Erik Dahlstrom e...@opera.com wrote: On Tue, 08 Oct 2013 15:49:48 +0200, Philip Jägenstedt phil...@opera.com wrote: 1. Do what Gecko does, even though there's no SVG spec requiring it yet. 2. Just say Element implements GlobalEventHandlers. I would prefer

Re: [whatwg] Should onfoo event handler properties be on Element or HTMLElement?

2013-10-08 Thread Boris Zbarsky
On 10/8/13 11:26 AM, Anne van Kesteren wrote: Have we had success yet making id= and class= super-global? Not sure we should extend the experiment prematurely. In terms of DOM behavior, in Gecko we have been shipping an id attribute on Element.prototype for a good long while now. We haven't

Re: [whatwg] Canvas implementors

2013-10-08 Thread Tab Atkins Jr.
On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 5:53 AM, Michael Norton no...@me.com wrote: It seems that the canvas element could really help make this a reality. The Editor's Draft I reviewed on the w3c site this week seems to suggest that text and glyphs generated with accessibility-scale functions would not be

Re: [whatwg] Canvas implementors

2013-10-08 Thread Michael Norton
Thank you TJ, i think your last statement is more to the point: That said, using canvas to easily create cross-platform visualizations of data is a very worthwhile and appropriate thing to do. My mention of text's glyphiness within canvass is a mere bonus IMO as the more valuable

Re: [whatwg] Should onfoo event handler properties be on Element or HTMLElement?

2013-10-08 Thread Boris Zbarsky
On 10/8/13 9:49 AM, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: Gecko has HTMLElement implements GlobalEventHandlers in its IDL,[1] but somewhat surprisingly also SVGElement implements GlobalEventHandlers.[2] Note that in Gecko SVG elements also have event handler content attributes and whatnot. What's your

Re: [whatwg] Should onfoo event handler properties be on Element or HTMLElement?

2013-10-08 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 5:26 PM, Anne van Kesteren ann...@annevk.nl wrote: On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 4:26 PM, Erik Dahlstrom e...@opera.com wrote: On Tue, 08 Oct 2013 15:49:48 +0200, Philip Jägenstedt phil...@opera.com wrote: 1. Do what Gecko does, even though there's no SVG spec requiring it yet.

Re: [whatwg] Should onfoo event handler properties be on Element or HTMLElement?

2013-10-08 Thread Philip Jägenstedt
On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 8:21 PM, Boris Zbarsky bzbar...@mit.edu wrote: On 10/8/13 9:49 AM, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: Gecko has HTMLElement implements GlobalEventHandlers in its IDL,[1] but somewhat surprisingly also SVGElement implements GlobalEventHandlers.[2] Note that in Gecko SVG

Re: [whatwg] Should onfoo event handler properties be on Element or HTMLElement?

2013-10-08 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 8:35 PM, Philip Jägenstedt phil...@opera.com wrote: I don't know anything about the move of those attributes, has it been attempted in spec and implementation and run into trouble? http://dom.spec.whatwg.org/ is the specification, but I don't think it's been implemented

Re: [whatwg] Should onfoo event handler properties be on Element or HTMLElement?

2013-10-08 Thread Simon Pieters
On Tue, 08 Oct 2013 20:38:48 +0200, Philip Jägenstedt phil...@opera.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 8:21 PM, Boris Zbarsky bzbar...@mit.edu wrote: On 10/8/13 9:49 AM, Philip Jägenstedt wrote: Gecko has HTMLElement implements GlobalEventHandlers in its IDL,[1] but somewhat surprisingly

Re: [whatwg] Should onfoo event handler properties be on Element or HTMLElement?

2013-10-08 Thread Ian Hickson
On Tue, 8 Oct 2013, Simon Pieters wrote: I think it would be bad to have an IDL attribute without a working content attribute for a given element. That's just confusing. Yeah, that's the main reason I wouldn't put this on Element if it was up to me. It seems weird to say to everyone around

Re: [whatwg] onclose events for MessagePort

2013-10-08 Thread David Levin
On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 11:13 AM, Boris Zbarsky bzbar...@mit.edu wrote: On 10/1/13 2:11 PM, Ian Hickson wrote: How often do we expect two tabs to be talking to each other though? Or a page to an out-of-process subframe? How often do we expect MessageChannel to be used at all? Speaking as