Re: [WikiEN-l] Health advice from the web

2009-08-02 Thread Ben Kovitz
Steve Bennett wrote: Ben Kovitzbkov...@acm.org wrote: attention to tags? I know it's 2009, and I know tags will never go away, but most tags still strike me as both anti-wiki and page clutter. If a page has a problem, fix it. That attitude is anti-wiki. I can diagnose far more problems

Re: [WikiEN-l] Health advice from the web

2009-08-02 Thread Ben Kovitz
David Goodman wrote: this is information that essentially everyone in the world considers basic reference information, that is available in authoritative form for all the english speaking countries (slightly different in each), and could easily be adding with absolutely impeccable official

Re: [WikiEN-l] Do experts have a moral obligation to contribute to Wikipedia?

2009-08-02 Thread Ben Kovitz
Charles Matthews wrote: How about the simpler comment that if you have expertise in an area of public interest, you should consider writing something freely licensed and putting it on the Web where someone can find it and help aggregate it? This is a really good point. Subject-matter

[WikiEN-l] Health advice from the web

2009-07-31 Thread Ben Kovitz
On Jul 24, 2009, at 2:46 PM, WereSpielChequers wrote: Todays New Scientist (vol 203 no 2718 page 20/21) has an interesting article on the veracity of online medical information; with several somewhat inconsistent references to wikipedia. Here's the article:

Re: [WikiEN-l] Health advice from the web

2009-07-31 Thread Ben Kovitz
Charles Matthews wrote: Ben Kovitz wrote: The site's other major flaw is its incompleteness. Wikipedia was able to answer only 40 per cent of the drug questions Clauson asked of it. By contrast, the traditionally edited Medscape Drug Reference answered 82 per cent of questions

Re: [WikiEN-l] A short article is not a stub.

2009-02-23 Thread Ben Kovitz
On Feb 23, 2009, at 9:10 AM, Sam Blacketer wrote: On 2/23/09, Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.com wrote: WP:SALIENCY? :-) Dunno about a policy but an essay on that subject might not go amiss. I'm feeling pretty hot about salience at the moment. I'll take a crack at a short essay

Re: [WikiEN-l] A short article is not a stub.

2009-02-23 Thread Ben Kovitz
I'm feeling pretty hot about salience at the moment. I'll take a crack at a short essay tonight, incorporating what people have posted here. Couldn't wait. List of topics is now here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:BenKovitz/Salience Thanks, Charles, for suggesting the word salience. :)

[WikiEN-l] Wikipedia as therapy

2009-02-23 Thread Ben Kovitz
Say, does anyone else here edit Wikipedia as therapy? I'm in grad school now, and my head has been spinning from the frequent context-switching: jumping between one in-depth class and another and another, without finishing one thing before starting another, and without having time to dig in

[WikiEN-l] A short article is not a stub.

2009-02-22 Thread Ben Kovitz
Jussi-Ville Heiskanen wrote: A short article is not a stub. Repeat 10 times under your breath. ... A subject that can be exhaustively covered briefly, is not a stub. Period. Thank you for saying this. Often, especially in biographical articles, I've been seeing facts tossed in that seem

Re: [WikiEN-l] A short article is not a stub.

2009-02-22 Thread Ben Kovitz
On Feb 22, 2009, at 7:53 PM, wjhon...@aol.com wrote: Paris Hilton is not notable for going to jail, lots of people go to jail. She is notable, and also she went to jail. I can agree with this: some facts about a person become notable simply because the person is notable. As David Goodman

Re: [WikiEN-l] A short article is not a stub.

2009-02-22 Thread Ben Kovitz
On Feb 22, 2009, at 9:23 AM, Thomas Dalton wrote: 2009/2/22 Ben Kovitz bkov...@acm.org: A one-paragraph article that crisply tells the noteworthy fact or two about its subject can be an excellent article. If there is only one noteworthy fact about the subject, the article should probably

[WikiEN-l] Adding new material vs. undoing damage

2009-02-21 Thread Ben Kovitz
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 3:40 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: I'm just going by the statistics, I'm not making any judgements based on anything else. At the moment, we seem to be following a logistic curve which levels out at around 3.5 million articles in around 2013-14.

Re: [WikiEN-l] [Slashdot] The Role of Experts In Wikipedia

2009-02-21 Thread Ben Kovitz
On Feb 16, 2009, at 12:20 AM, Tim Starling wrote: Sanger was one of the founders of Wikipedia, and of its failed predecessor Nupedia, who left the fold because of differences over the question of the proper role of experts. Strange, I thought it was because he stopped being paid for it.

Re: [WikiEN-l] [Slashdot] The Role of Experts In Wikipedia

2009-02-21 Thread Ben Kovitz
On Feb 16, 2009, at 2:10 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote: We could discuss why [CZ] failed but I think the real answer is simply that Wikipedia is good enough so there is very little interest in a new project doing the same thing. I think you have pegged it exactly right. In most large markets, the