On Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:25:17 + (GMT), wikien-l-Andreas Kolbe
wrote:
and she admits she thought it was a weird religion - - until she
met Cruise. I'm not saying that I'm not a Scientologist because I
think something's wrong with Scientology -- I want to be really
clear about that, Jada
On Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:25:17 + (GMT), wikien-l-Andreas Kolbe
wrote:
and she admits she thought it was a weird religion - - until she
met Cruise. I'm not saying that I'm not a Scientologist because I
think something's wrong with Scientology -- I want to be really
clear about that, Jada
On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 5:46 PM, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@yahoo.com wrote:
Also, some of those media references may be obituaries,
which are a
different sort of source to news articles.
While Lessing was born in 1919, last time I looked she was still alive. ;)
Oops! :-)
Tough old bird.
--- On Sat, 5/2/11, Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.com wrote:
From: Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.com
Andreas Kolbe jayen...@yahoo.com
wrote:
Our article talks about her dalliances with communism,
feminism, and sufism,
and tells us that she was out shopping for groceries
when the
On 2/4/11 6:08 PM, Andreas Kolbe wrote:
I do not permit any of my students to cite your encyclopedia as any
kind of reliable source when they write papers for me. Wikipedia is too
much a playground for social activists of whatever editorial bent wherein
the lowest common denominator gets to
--- On Sat, 5/2/11, Mark delir...@hackish.org wrote:
From: Mark delir...@hackish.org
On 2/4/11 6:08 PM, Andreas Kolbe
wrote:
I do not permit any of my students to cite your
encyclopedia as any
kind of reliable source when they write papers for me.
Wikipedia is too
much a playground for
On 4 February 2011 01:32, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote:
One is expected to use sound editorial judgment. Using British tabloids
for a biography of a living person falls outside that remit. One is
expected to have some familiarity with what is an appropriate source
for
the
--- On Fri, 4/2/11, wiki doc.wikipe...@ntlworld.com wrote:
From: wiki doc.wikipe...@ntlworld.com
OK, let's take a case in point: Prem Rawat
Jimbo recently added into the lead Rawat has often been
termed a cult
leader in popular press report, as well as [[anti-cult]]
writings - stating
I think we also need to take into account what the subject is and type
of information.
I wouldn't trust one of our fleet street tabloids for a WWII bomber
found on the moon story, and I was somewhat cynical about the
following week's WWII bomber mysteriously disappears from the Moon
headline, or
On 4 February 2011 01:32, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote:
One is expected to use sound editorial judgment. Using British
tabloids
for a biography of a living person falls outside that remit. One is
expected to have some familiarity with what is an appropriate source
for
the
I think we also need to take into account what the subject is and type
of information.
I wouldn't trust one of our fleet street tabloids for a WWII bomber
found on the moon story, and I was somewhat cynical about the
following week's WWII bomber mysteriously disappears from the Moon
to it.
Andreas
--- On Fri, 4/2/11, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@yahoo.com wrote:
From: Andreas Kolbe jayen...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Tabloid sources (was Wikipedia leadership})
To: English Wikipedia wikien-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Date: Friday, 4 February, 2011, 13:25
--- On Fri, 4/2/11
We have a policy about not spreading gossip, but I see little evidence
that
we adhere to it.
Andreas
After such examples are found they still need to be edited. The editing
community varies in its tolerance, experience, and compliance. What in
one context might slip though will not in
We have a policy about not spreading gossip, but I see
little evidence
that
we adhere to it.
Andreas
After such examples are found they still need to be edited.
The editing
community varies in its tolerance, experience, and
compliance. What in
one context might slip though will
On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@yahoo.com wrote:
For better or worse, Wikipedia in its present state is more of a news
aggregator than an educational resource, and the reason is that the
community likes it that way.
Parts of Wikipedia are more like a news aggregator,
...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Carcharoth
Sent: 04 February 2011 16:13
To: English Wikipedia
Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Tabloid sources (was Wikipedia leadership})
On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@yahoo.com wrote:
For better or worse, Wikipedia in its present state is more
[mailto:wikien-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Carcharoth
Sent: 04 February 2011 16:13
To: English Wikipedia
Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Tabloid sources (was Wikipedia leadership})
On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@yahoo.com wrote:
For better or worse, Wikipedia in its
--- On Fri, 4/2/11, Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.com wrote:
Andreas Kolbe jayen...@yahoo.com
wrote:
For better or worse, Wikipedia in its present state is
more of a news
aggregator than an educational resource, and the
reason is that the
community likes it that way.
Parts of
On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 5:08 PM, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@yahoo.com wrote:
snip
That's 32 media/web references (some of them with multiple citations), and
3 book references (each cited once).
I would suggest finding out who added those book references and seeing
if they still have the books, and
Also, some of those media references may be obituaries,
which are a
different sort of source to news articles.
While Lessing was born in 1919, last time I looked she was still alive. ;)
Tough old bird.
Our article talks about her dalliances with communism, feminism, and sufism,
and tells us
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ASearchredirs=1search=t
hesun.co.uk+%22Living+people%22fulltext=Searchns0=1title=Special%3ASearch
advanced=1fulltext=Advanced+search
'Nuff said.
Scott
Said but not done. We need to take a good look at this, and similar uses
of dubious
In other words, the more tabloid sources we cite, the more editors we
attract who like tabloids, while turning off those potential contributors
who don't read tabloids.
Andreas
We are already nastier then we need to be or ought to be to ordinary
people who try to edit. We are not going in
Also, some of those media references may be obituaries,
which are a
different sort of source to news articles.
While Lessing was born in 1919, last time I looked she was still alive.
;)
Tough old bird.
Our article talks about her dalliances with communism, feminism, and
sufism,
and
On Fri, 4 Feb 2011, Fred Bauder wrote:
Clearly there are issues. I'm on Jimbo's side with this though. Some of
my earliest edit wars were over whether The People's Republic of China
could be described in the introduction as a totalitarian dictatorship.
What has currently been hit on is
On Fri, 4 Feb 2011, Fred Bauder wrote:
Clearly there are issues. I'm on Jimbo's side with this though. Some of
my earliest edit wars were over whether The People's Republic of China
could be described in the introduction as a totalitarian dictatorship.
What has currently been hit on is
On Fri, 4 Feb 2011, Fred Bauder wrote:
Clearly there are issues. I'm on Jimbo's side with this though. Some of
my earliest edit wars were over whether The People's Republic of China
could be described in the introduction as a totalitarian dictatorship.
What has currently been hit on is
You've certainly framed the issue, but there are four lights.
http://videosift.com/video/How-many-lights-do-you-see-Captain-Great-Picard-
Moment
Fred
Hm, yes but {{citation needed}}.
Otherwise it just comes down to my reality is better than yours and either
brute force, or attrition posing as
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