if
there are important similarities, nobody wants to look like a hypocrite.
What does this have to do with anything?
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to keep up with the required rate of
sighting (We have a hard time marking new pages as patrolled at the
moment)
If you want to use drug articles as the foundation for your argument
proof that it would provide any protection against subtle vandalism.
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unusually high levels of inline linking in wikis this is questionable.
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about
how one of the changes will impact the servers (basically I want to
put an if command into mediawiki:Sharedupload).
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over the
weekend they haven't been able to present their side of the story.
It's equally possible that the IWF is unsure if it should have blocked
the image in question.
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they are currently withholding information that responsible site
operators need to keep their sites child porn free.
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Hosting the English wikipedia will get you hammered with a duplicate
content penalty so you tend not to rank very high in search results.
In theory a machine translation of French would avoid that.
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On Dec 17, 2008, at 1:48 PM, geni wrote:
And this is one of the reasons why wikipedia policy is what it is.
This fight has been done by others and they have done it better ( eg
http://www.info.ucl.ac.be/~pvr/decon.html ). Wikipedia policy
and searching them effectively is quite a trick.
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that the word encyclopedia still has this
meaning and association.
—Thomas Larsen
Scholarly practices such as they exist in the field of popular music
have long established that if you are going to talk about an album
cover you show the thing.
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harder
to defend than anyone we've previously run up against. However we
cannot meaningfully disrupt their business model (We do not have the
strength in the academic world to push open access journals
significantly and the wider public is irrelevant to them).
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they would appear to be surviving that). The pictures of
Mohamed thing was already overdone by the time it reached us but some
religious groups might be a risk factor I suppose.
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be channeled toward other tasks.
Experience suggests not.
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that is
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:NewPagesoffset=year,month,day,hour,minute,second
But no one wants to do that. Remember tagging is secondary admins can
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thousand edits to get some idea. In terms of complaints on forums and
blogs I see if you ignore the complaints more focused what people want
to write the loss of a significant chunk of our coverage of TV shows
and various popular media is the most complained about.
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content from one article from another (the rest of the time you can
nail them for persistently lying in edit summaries). Given the format
of the mediawiki software and the GFDL it is pretty much impossible to
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2009/1/5 wjhon...@aol.com:
In a message dated 1/5/2009 3:48:55 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
geni...@gmail.com writes:
Mostly because from time to time they have actually moved
content from one article from another (the rest of the time you can
nail them for persistently lying in edit
that was a completely harmless issue related to so interface
stuff).
While I would oppose it that is mostly because it doesn't look right
rather than my being able to find an armored plated policy reason as
to why that is the case.
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to be legit
so the issue is entirely between him and the company. Our copyright
rules do not apply.
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a credit!
Yours etc,
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I laughed a lot. :)
Hmm the image in question is
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:The_Public_north.JPG but they
cropped it down a bit so a bit of the building is actually missing
from the private eye version.
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work is in copyright in the US.
We don't use the copyright not renewed clause stuff and commons'
general support for Must be PD in the country of origin as well as the
US means we mostly dodge the issue.
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wikipedia depending on what they are counting as an article.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoodong
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. If that is zero then it is zero. Since under US
law sweat of the brow does not give something copyright protection if
your scans are publicly available it is rather hard to get people to
pay anything for them.
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is on
it's own non creative.
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not protected by rather limiting conditions. For
example he's the conditions for the imperial war museam:
http://collections.iwm.org.uk/upload/pdf/newlegal02a.pdf
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the number of copyright claims
we've ignored citing that case you would have thought someone would
have tired taking the situation to court if they thought they actually
had a case.
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. If that cases companies issues then
under the principles of capitalism that isn't my problem unless I own
shares in them.
That's not very nice.
1)Copyright law isn't nice
2)Compared to most of the other bits the relevant area isn't very nasty.
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it on theirs.
Without any credit to you, without any consideration.
Again depends where they are. But yes any American can do that with
this stuff most of which I scanned:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Old_Ordnance_Survey_map_images
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Just about every company that makes Generic pharmaceutics.
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2009/1/16 wjhon...@aol.com:
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Which effectively kicks out sweat of the brow. Sweat of the brow is on
it's own non creative.
False. Sweat of the brow discusses effort.
Creativity and effort can both
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Just about every company that makes Generic pharmaceutics.
-
So you're advocating stealing from pharmacies to get free drugs?
Otherwise I don't
mentioned rather a lot of times I'm British. British law in this
area is slightly different.
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work are the
companies that take advantage of the 50 year rule on recorded music in
the UK.
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Well it could be that what Geni is advocating is not legal in the US and the
fact that Geni is not willing to do it Geni-self might be a good indication
of that.
Will
It could be but you would have to overturn a fair bit of caselaw. The
second part of you email
2009/1/18 James Farrar james.far...@gmail.com:
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could prize it off them
without a very large crowbar.
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the article
namespace because while some of them might qualify under fair use it
isn't worth the hassle it would take to keep the situation under
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looked fairly soild. They also got their bot to the point
where it could pretty much write wikipedia articles by extracting info
from thre web. The other thing they found was than opening sentances
are very standardised which made them easy to extract information
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2009/1/28 geni geni...@gmail.com:
2009/1/28 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com:
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- d.
I saw one of the talks about work in this area on youtube. Other than
the slight problem that they intialy focused
is a feature
much liked by readers (and back when people where doing WPvsEB was
often used as a point in wikipedia's favor).
For our content writers the instant results are a significant part of
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public will also soon see their changes.
See the backlog of unpatrolled new pages.
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2009/2/11 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com:
I have occasionally referred to some of our more common-sense disabled
editors as Turing Test failures ...
Which is a bit of a problem if you want to have credibility addressing
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around in their heads. As a result the average person is
facing far fewer opportunities to write new articles or expand
existing ones than they used to. This makes both continuing expansion
in size and editor numbers somewhat tricky.
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function I can't see a way to do it.
Even {{REVISIONID}} {{PAGESIZE:page
name}}{{NUMBEROFUSERS}}{{NUMBEROFUSERS}}{{NUMBEROFEDITS}}{{NUMBERINGROUP:groupname}}
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my county does not have a copy of:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What_Is_This_Thing_Called_Science%3F
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2009/3/4 Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com:
2009/3/4 geni geni...@gmail.com:
2009/3/4 Durova nadezhda.dur...@gmail.com:
Two words: interlibrary loan.
-Durova
Doesn't work so well these days. Enough libraries have been closed and
stock sold off that you don't have to get that obscure
current library services do the
job well enough.
Getting access to existing collections and permission to make copies
of them (county archives will generaly photocopy stuff for you but
they won't let you point a camera at the stuff) is a more significant
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2009/3/4 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com:
2009/3/4 geni geni...@gmail.com:
Getting access to existing collections and permission to make copies
of them (county archives will generaly photocopy stuff for you but
they won't let you point a camera at the stuff) is a more significant
issue
. It is however cheap and easy to write so there is a
significant incentive for media organisations to pick it up. similar
to the reason it can be rather hard to find out about day to day
events outside the more heavily industrialised notations.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_Chamond_(tank)
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to be trying to do this already.
Not in the way I meant.
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mostly does this through nav boxes.
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there is
that the unloader is only thinking about it in one context when it
might usefully be tagged with additional things to over other
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is marginalized (and potentially killed off) by whatever
may come in future.
You missed whatever comes next useing parts of wikipedia. Even if you
weren't interested in wikipedia content would you really want to go to
the effort of recreating wikipedia's redirect and disambiguation
system?
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You also want a system that highlights the key distinguishing features
of whatever is being disambiguated.
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2009/4/1 Elias Friedman elipo...@gmail.com:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Earth_(2nd_nomination)
And before anyone gets too outraged, do make note of today's date.
One of these days people will learn to be original.
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, they will be persuaded.
Personally I would prefer that people considered things logically.
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concept seems
interesting if the exact opposite of something I sometimes do with
wikipedia (find a random slightly obscure source then use it to add
info to appropriate wikipedia articles).
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the truth for personal gain, I doubt there is anything I can say
that will convince you.
Jimbo is not the leader (sue might have a better claim to that but
hard to tell) and I think chief spokesbeing is probably jay.
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itself than case #1,
again, either way, there's something profound there.
Except several years behind the times. The community has dealt with
the issue and from what I've seen Jimbo has been back peddling of
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we need to get a clearer idea of what is going on
at Hudong.
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Baidu Baike.
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2009/4/22 Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com:
2009/4/22 Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com:
2009/4/22 geni geni...@gmail.com:
2009/4/22 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com:
2009/4/22 wjhon...@aol.com:
Is there a list of the top100 most popular Wikipedia pages?
http://stats.grok.se
getting double the views of Watchmen
which probably had far more geek and general internet appeal. 100K
views week in week out is simply not possible for well anything
conventional.
Even Barack Obama doesn't manage that most months.
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improve their ranking on some scale that I don't understand.
Interesting cultural contrast.
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with lower level orphan works.
Since people don't normally mention copyrights in their wills after a
couple of generations working out who holds what rights can be near
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, there is no Twitterpedia,... not a real one, anyway.)
So. Who's going to start Twitterpedia?
- d.
Effectively thats what the opening sentences of wikipedia articles
should already be (with the opening paras being the summery
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empire, against the
Spartan-led Eponymous League.
Peloponnesian War (431-404BC), Athens and its empire vs Spartan-led
Eponymous League.
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Loads of vandalism on Cristiano Ronaldo around that date but nothing
that fits Liddle's claims.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/81.156.42.14
Is another candidate but again nothing
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that doesn't present a significant chance of destroying the
species cannot be considered exceptionally acute given how many things
there are around that do carry that risk.
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Linking to wikipedia pages would be kinda risky. One leak of what CIA
IPs are and we can then use server logs to track what the CIA and
simular are interested in.
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2009/5/27 Aryeh Gregor simetrical+wikil...@gmail.com:
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Linking to wikipedia pages would be kinda risky. One leak of what CIA
IPs are and we can then use server logs to track what the CIA and
simular are interested in.
The IP
2009/5/27 Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net:
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Linking to wikipedia pages would be kinda risky. One leak of what CIA
IPs are and we can then use server logs to track what the CIA and
simular are interested in.
The IP addresses
their bios it's exactly an
improvement on the current situation.
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that is probably more common than reusing
text.
Sam
I haven't checked it over lately but that should be at:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Reusing_content_outside_Wikimedia
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article per
event rather than creating a string of new articles).
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is effectively
presenting wikipedia content to people.
You also have the issue that both google maps and Microsoft's multimap
have the ability to show wikipedia articles on their maps.
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2009/6/7 geni geni...@gmail.com:
Perhaps more directly the recent actions of Google and Microsoft bing
suggest that part of being a modern search engine is effectively
presenting wikipedia content to people.
It was certainly surprising to see
2009/6/18 Andrew Turvey andrewrtur...@googlemail.com:
Wikinews interestingly does for images. I never quite understood why they do
and we don't - maybe it'll catch on!
Andrew
Basically because having credit:wetriffs.com in the article space
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the likes of
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:IRC
and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup
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met, abandoned or people have moved on to another forum. If a couple
of new people come along with fresh targets they can re-awake.
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should adopt a non profit model.
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factored in those going to redirect pages it was about 1.1 million.
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2009/6/26 geni geni...@gmail.com:
2009/6/26 Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk:
2009/6/26 Carcharoth carcharot...@googlemail.com:
http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/News_of_Michael_Jackson%27s_death_overloads_Internet_sites_and_sparks_hoaxes
Is there anything anywhere (apart from the long thread
idea. Particularly when
several people ask them. Eventually they will get the idea: FREE STOCK
PHOTOS just give credit and licence.
Only if you consider CC-BY-SA to be weak copyleft.
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