[WikiEN-l] Renaming Flagged Protections to Pending Changes

2010-05-28 Thread Rob Lanphier
Hi everyone, After much debate, we've settled on a name for the English Wikipedia implementation of FlaggedRevs: Pending Changes. This is a slight variation on one of the finalists (Pending Revisions) which has the benefit of using the less jargony term changes instead of revisions. The

Re: [WikiEN-l] Renaming Flagged Protections to Pending Changes

2010-05-28 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 28 May 2010 23:25, Rob Lanphier ro...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hi everyone, After much debate, we've settled on a name for the English Wikipedia implementation of FlaggedRevs:  Pending Changes. I find this decision very odd. Revision Review had much more support (and very well-reasoned

Re: [WikiEN-l] Renaming Flagged Protections

2010-05-26 Thread Rob Lanphier
Hi everyone, It looks like the discussion on the name is dying down, so I'd like to summarize what I think we've heard here: 1. There's no clear favorite out there. In addition to the two ideas we put forward (Pending Revisions and Double Check), there's been quite a bit of discussion around

Re: [WikiEN-l] Renaming Flagged Protections

2010-05-22 Thread Andrew Gray
On 22 May 2010 02:15, FT2 ft2.w...@gmail.com wrote: Pending edits might describe the edits, but not the regime or tool. Delayed editing is one possible option for the tool. As in, Delayed editing has been applied to this article. Doesn't imply any kind of checking or approval, nor censorship

[WikiEN-l] Renaming Flagged Protections

2010-05-21 Thread Rob Lanphier
Hi everyone, As William alluded to, a bunch of us have been studying the user interface for Flagged Protections and figuring out how to make it more intuitive. In trying to solve the user interface problems as well as generally figuring out how we're going to talk about this feature to the world

Re: [WikiEN-l] Renaming Flagged Protections

2010-05-21 Thread FT2
Might help to sum up what exactly it does or how it's used (2-4 bullet points) so that people trying to pick a name to match its features but haven't followed the lengthy debate, are up to date on it. FT2 On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 10:38 PM, Rob Lanphier ro...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hi everyone,

Re: [WikiEN-l] Renaming Flagged Protections

2010-05-21 Thread Rob Lanphier
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 3:34 PM, FT2 ft2.w...@gmail.com wrote: Might help to sum up what exactly it does or how it's used (2-4 bullet points) so that people trying to pick a name to match its features but haven't followed the lengthy debate, are up to date on it. That's fair. Here's the

Re: [WikiEN-l] Renaming Flagged Protections

2010-05-21 Thread AGK
On 21 May 2010 22:38, Rob Lanphier ro...@wikimedia.org wrote: It turns out that filters out quite a few names (including Flagged Protection among other things). Here's the alternatives that made the cut:   - Pending Revisions - this name is very consistent with what everyone   will see in

Re: [WikiEN-l] Renaming Flagged Protections

2010-05-21 Thread FT2
Pending edits might describe the edits, but not the regime or tool. Delayed editing is one possible option for the tool. As in, Delayed editing has been applied to this article. Doesn't imply any kind of checking or approval, nor censorship or the like, just that edits will be delayed. I think

Re: [WikiEN-l] Renaming Flagged Protections

2010-05-21 Thread FT2
*+ **...The average delay is expected to be around N minutes, and we'll be watching this carefully.* FT2 On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 2:15 AM, FT2 ft2.w...@gmail.com wrote: Pending edits might describe the edits, but not the regime or tool. Delayed editing is one possible option for the tool. As

Re: [WikiEN-l] Renaming Flagged Protections

2010-05-21 Thread Emily Monroe
- Double Check - this was a late entrant, but has the distinct advantage of clearly communicating what we envision this feature will be used for (i.e. enforcing a double check from a very broad community). I like this one. With this, there would be double checked edits, that is

Re: [WikiEN-l] Renaming Flagged Protections

2010-05-21 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 22 May 2010 02:18, FT2 ft2.w...@gmail.com wrote: *+  **...The average delay is expected to be around N minutes, and we'll be watching this carefully.* Do we actually have an expectation? We have aspirations, certainly (I think N=5 is bit on the high side for the median, which is probably the

Re: [WikiEN-l] Renaming Flagged Protections

2010-05-21 Thread Emily Monroe
Probably not, unless we take an educated guess from the German Wikipedia. I get the impression that we're doing things significantly different from them, so yeah. I don't think anyone can. Emily On May 21, 2010, at 9:37 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote: On 22 May 2010 02:18, FT2 ft2.w...@gmail.com

Re: [WikiEN-l] Renaming Flagged Protections

2010-05-21 Thread FT2
We don't and can't right now but we should probably say something on these lines just because people will wonder how long to expect and saying something is better than nothing. We can always modify the wording with experience. For a starting point we could word it: *The average delay is not yet

Re: [WikiEN-l] Renaming Flagged Protections

2010-05-21 Thread Amory Meltzer
Love the rest, but the We'll be watching it carefully is a little creepy. ~A On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 22:57, FT2 ft2.w...@gmail.com wrote: We don't and can't right now but we should probably say something on these lines just because people will wonder how long to expect and saying something

Re: [WikiEN-l] Renaming Flagged Protections

2010-05-21 Thread Emily Monroe
I agree. Cross out the last line. Emily On May 21, 2010, at 10:06 PM, Amory Meltzer wrote: Love the rest, but the We'll be watching it carefully is a little creepy. ~A On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 22:57, FT2 ft2.w...@gmail.com wrote: We don't and can't right now but we should probably say

Re: [WikiEN-l] Renaming Flagged Protections

2010-05-21 Thread Carcharoth
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 10:38 PM, Rob Lanphier ro...@wikimedia.org wrote: So, we would like to make a change to the name of the Flagged Protections feature prior to deploying it to en.wikipedia.org. Under the hood, we would still be using the FlaggedRevs extension (no change there), but the