Re: [Wikitech-l] Nightly shallow clones of mediawiki/core

2013-03-12 Thread Ori Livneh
On Monday, March 11, 2013 at 6:51 PM, Rob Lanphier wrote: On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 3:32 PM, Kevin Israel pleasest...@live.com (mailto:pleasest...@live.com) wrote: On 03/10/2013 06:03 PM, Bartosz Dziewoński wrote: A shallow clone certainly shouldn't be as large as a normal one.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Mediawiki's access points and mw-config

2013-03-12 Thread Daniel Friesen
On Sat, 09 Mar 2013 08:15:05 -0800, Platonides platoni...@gmail.com wrote: On 09/03/13 15:47, Waldir Pimenta wrote: So mw-config can't be deleted after all? Or you mean the installer at includes/installer? Is you mean the former, then how about run-installer instead of my previous proposal

Re: [Wikitech-l] Mediawiki's access points and mw-config

2013-03-12 Thread Daniel Friesen
On Fri, 08 Mar 2013 18:18:52 -0800, Waldir Pimenta wal...@email.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 9:13 PM, Daniel Friesen dan...@nadir-seen-fire.comwrote: I wouldn't even include mw-config in entrypoint modifications that would be applied to other entrypoint code. You mean like this one

Re: [Wikitech-l] Replacement for tagging in Gerrit

2013-03-12 Thread Andre Klapper
On Mon, 2013-03-11 at 17:09 +0100, Christian Aistleitner wrote: On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 12:43:44AM +0100, Andre Klapper wrote: Are there some thoughts already how to make a match between a project in Gerrit and its related Bugzilla product/component? [Disclaimer: I'm a fan of DOAP metadata

Re: [Wikitech-l] Replacement for tagging in Gerrit

2013-03-12 Thread Chad
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 6:45 AM, Andre Klapper aklap...@wikimedia.org wrote: Wasn't aware of that. Are there projects in Gerrit that don't use bugzilla.wikimedia.org? A lot of MediaWiki extensions, I assume? In that case we're back to the problem that you need a URI value for the bugtracker.

[Wikitech-l] GLAM-Wiki 2013: THATCamp hackathon

2013-03-12 Thread Richard Nevell
As a part of the GLAM-Wiki 2013 Conferencehttp://uk.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM-WIKI_2013, Wikimedia UK is putting up a free unconference event on Sunday 14 April and you are most welcome to attend. The event is organised by THATCamp as a free unconference and

[Wikitech-l] Jenkins upgraded to 1.480.3

2013-03-12 Thread Antoine Musso
Hello, We have upgraded our Jenkins installation to version 1.480.3 (LTS release). My basic regression tests did not catch any issue, if you see anything wrong please ping me and or open a bug report against Wikimedia Testing Infrastructure in Bugzilla (I am in CC). The most interesting bug fix

Re: [Wikitech-l] Replacement for tagging in Gerrit

2013-03-12 Thread Guillaume Paumier
Hi, On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 2:11 AM, Rob Lanphier ro...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hi folks, Short version: This mail is fishing for feedback on proposed work on Gerrit-Bugzilla integration to replace code review tags. I preferred that if we were going to have our own hacky solution, it should

Re: [Wikitech-l] Nightly shallow clones of mediawiki/core

2013-03-12 Thread Rob Lanphier
Hi Ori, I'm at the office now, but (heh) that may be a tougher test than my home connection. More below On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 12:00 AM, Ori Livneh o...@wikimedia.org wrote: Rob, thanks for checking. I tried it yesterday and again just now, and in both cases it took around 15 minutes:

Re: [Wikitech-l] Mediawiki's access points and mw-config

2013-03-12 Thread Brian Wolff
On 2013-03-12 6:31 AM, Daniel Friesen dan...@nadir-seen-fire.com wrote: On Sat, 09 Mar 2013 08:15:05 -0800, Platonides platoni...@gmail.com wrote: On 09/03/13 15:47, Waldir Pimenta wrote: So mw-config can't be deleted after all? Or you mean the installer at includes/installer? Is you mean

Re: [Wikitech-l] Replacement for tagging in Gerrit

2013-03-12 Thread Greg Grossmeier
Hello! quote name=Guillaume Paumier date=2013-03-12 time=15:03:04 +0100 Hi, On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 2:11 AM, Rob Lanphier ro...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hi folks, Short version: This mail is fishing for feedback on proposed work on Gerrit-Bugzilla integration to replace code review tags.

Re: [Wikitech-l] Replacement for tagging in Gerrit

2013-03-12 Thread K. Peachey
On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 2:43 AM, Greg Grossmeier g...@wikimedia.org wrote: 4) A Gerrit-based tagging plugin would need some engineering that might not be apparent at first blush, for example: who can set tags and remove them? Does that vary by tag? How could I, for example, keep track of all

[Wikitech-l] Mediawiki branches and deployments

2013-03-12 Thread Greg Grossmeier
Hello all, -- tl;dr: There's a difference between how the WMF Platform team and Feature Teams commit to master. Why? How can we unify and/or make testing from development branches easier for everyone? -- Two weeks ago Ops and Platform both had all staff local in SF for a week for a slew

[Wikitech-l] Detect running from maintenance script in a parser function extension

2013-03-12 Thread Toni Hermoso Pulido
Hello, I'm checking whether I can detect that a process is run from a maintenance script in a parser function extension. Which would be the best way / more recommendable to detect it? Thanks! -- Toni Hermoso Pulido http://www.cau.cat ___ Wikitech-l

Re: [Wikitech-l] Detect running from maintenance script in a parser function extension

2013-03-12 Thread Tyler Romeo
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 1:47 PM, Toni Hermoso Pulido toni...@cau.catwrote: Hello, I'm checking whether I can detect that a process is run from a maintenance script in a parser function extension. Which would be the best way / more recommendable to detect it? Thanks! $wgCommandLineMode

Re: [Wikitech-l] Detect running from maintenance script in a parser function extension

2013-03-12 Thread Platonides
On 12/03/13 18:47, Toni Hermoso Pulido wrote: Hello, I'm checking whether I can detect that a process is run from a maintenance script in a parser function extension. Which would be the best way / more recommendable to detect it? Thanks! Why do you want to do it? It is probably a bad

Re: [Wikitech-l] Detect running from maintenance script in a parser function extension

2013-03-12 Thread Brian Wolff
On 2013-03-12 3:19 PM, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 1:47 PM, Toni Hermoso Pulido toni...@cau.cat wrote: Hello, I'm checking whether I can detect that a process is run from a maintenance script in a parser function extension. Which would be the best

Re: [Wikitech-l] Replacement for tagging in Gerrit

2013-03-12 Thread Platonides
Doing the tags in Gerrit is the right thing. Who can change them is not a problem, just make a changetags log. (BTW, you would have the same problem in bugzilla with people removing that superimportant tag) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list

Re: [Wikitech-l] Mediawiki branches and deployments

2013-03-12 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 03/12/2013 01:44 PM, Greg Grossmeier wrote: One of the things that became apparent is that the Features Teams (eg: E2, E3, Visual Editor) tend to have separate branches that they develop on and only merge to master closer to their deploy windows. There is some variation among them, of

Re: [Wikitech-l] Category sorting in random order

2013-03-12 Thread Bartosz Dziewoński
On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 13:00:22 +0100, Lars Aronsson l...@aronsson.se wrote: This category is sorted strangely, http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kategori:Svenska_kokboksf%C3%B6rfattare A, B, E, G, H, L, B, M, N, F, J, R, Þ, S, W, Z, Å Not only does B appear twice, and F after N, but the article

Re: [Wikitech-l] Nightly shallow clones of mediawiki/core

2013-03-12 Thread Ori Livneh
On Tuesday, March 12, 2013 at 8:51 AM, Rob Lanphier wrote: ...which would imply that maybe the JGit server side stuff hasn't been tested with a lot of client versions. Rob, thanks again for investigating. I filed a bug in Bugzilla so we can track this:

Re: [Wikitech-l] Mediawiki branches and deployments

2013-03-12 Thread Chris McMahon
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 2:21 PM, Matthew Flaschen mflasc...@wikimedia.orgwrote: In the case of the GettingStarted extension v2, we used a feature branch because it was a user-facing change that took a few weeks to get ready for deployment. Because it was user-facing, there were interactions,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Mediawiki branches and deployments

2013-03-12 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 03/12/2013 04:43 PM, Chris McMahon wrote: On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 2:21 PM, Matthew Flaschen mflasc...@wikimedia.orgwrote: In the case of the GettingStarted extension v2, we used a feature branch because it was a user-facing change that took a few weeks to get ready for deployment.

[Wikitech-l] Vague question re: future of Vector skin

2013-03-12 Thread David Gerard
A few people on rationalwiki.org have been muttering about doing a customised Vector skin. The trouble with Vector is that, as I understand it, it's an odd melange of extension and skin, with functionality that should be in one being in the other, both ways. I also understand that there are

Re: [Wikitech-l] Vague question re: future of Vector skin

2013-03-12 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 03/12/2013 05:07 PM, David Gerard wrote: A few people on rationalwiki.org have been muttering about doing a customised Vector skin. The trouble with Vector is that, as I understand it, it's an odd melange of extension and skin, with functionality that should be in one being in the other,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Vague question re: future of Vector skin

2013-03-12 Thread Bartosz Dziewoński
On Tue, 12 Mar 2013 22:07:29 +0100, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: I also understand that there are plans to refactor it to be sensibly organised with the right functionality in the right place. (Though I have no idea if there is actually anyone assigned to such a task.) Is this the

Re: [Wikitech-l] Detect running from maintenance script in a parser function extension

2013-03-12 Thread Toni Hermoso Pulido
Al 12/03/13 21:08, En/na Brian Wolff ha escrit: On 2013-03-12 3:19 PM, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 1:47 PM, Toni Hermoso Pulido toni...@cau.cat wrote: Hello, I'm checking whether I can detect that a process is run from a maintenance script in a parser

Re: [Wikitech-l] Vague question re: future of Vector skin

2013-03-12 Thread MZMcBride
David Gerard wrote: A few people on rationalwiki.org have been muttering about doing a customised Vector skin. The trouble with Vector is that, as I understand it, it's an odd melange of extension and skin, with functionality that should be in one being in the other, both ways. I also understand

Re: [Wikitech-l] Vague question re: future of Vector skin

2013-03-12 Thread Chad
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 6:24 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: I recently tripped across https://wikitech-test.wmflabs.org/wiki/ which is using an interesting skin, but I'm not sure which. I believe this was based off twitter's bootstrap. -Chad

Re: [Wikitech-l] Nightly shallow clones of mediawiki/core

2013-03-12 Thread Ori Livneh
On Tuesday, March 12, 2013 at 1:36 PM, Ori Livneh wrote: I filed a bug in Bugzilla so we can track this: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46041 Platonides figured it out. Incredibly enough, in the half-sub-sub-version delta from 1.7.9.5 to 1.7.10, the behavior of git-clone

Re: [Wikitech-l] Vague question re: future of Vector skin

2013-03-12 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 03/12/2013 06:24 PM, MZMcBride wrote: I believe the Wikimedia Foundation would like to eventually phase-out the Vector skin in favor of the Athena skin (cf. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Athena). Maybe, but right now there is a lot more discussion about Agora (basically, what

Re: [Wikitech-l] Detect running from maintenance script in a parser function extension

2013-03-12 Thread Brian Wolff
On 3/12/13, Toni Hermoso Pulido toni...@cau.cat wrote: Al 12/03/13 21:08, En/na Brian Wolff ha escrit: On 2013-03-12 3:19 PM, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 1:47 PM, Toni Hermoso Pulido toni...@cau.cat wrote: Hello, I'm checking whether I can detect that a

Re: [Wikitech-l] Nightly shallow clones of mediawiki/core

2013-03-12 Thread Chad
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 5:31 PM, Ori Livneh o...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Tuesday, March 12, 2013 at 1:36 PM, Ori Livneh wrote: I filed a bug in Bugzilla so we can track this: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46041 Platonides figured it out. Incredibly enough, in the

[Wikitech-l] New unified SSL certificate deployed

2013-03-12 Thread Ryan Lane
We just finished deploying a new SSL certificate to the sites. Now all *.m and *. certificates are included in a single certificate, except mediawiki.org. Unfortunately we somehow forgot mediawiki.org when we ordered the updated cert. We'll be replacing this soon with another cert that had

Re: [Wikitech-l] Category sorting in random order

2013-03-12 Thread Bartosz Dziewoński
Ad fixed now. Say thanks to Reedy and Tim. -- Matma Rex ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l

[Wikitech-l] A new feedback extension - review urgently needed

2013-03-12 Thread Lukas Benedix
Hi there! I am Lukas Benedix, a student of computer science at the Freie Universität Berlin in Germany. In cooperation with the Wikidata developer team, I’m currently working on my bachelor thesis about usability testing in open source software projects and I’d like to provide the Wikidata

Re: [Wikitech-l] New unified SSL certificate deployed

2013-03-12 Thread Brion Vibber
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 3:43 PM, Ryan Lane rlan...@gmail.com wrote: We just finished deploying a new SSL certificate to the sites. Now all *.m and *. certificates are included in a single certificate, except mediawiki.org. Unfortunately we somehow forgot mediawiki.org when we ordered the

Re: [Wikitech-l] A new feedback extension - review urgently needed

2013-03-12 Thread Sumana Harihareswara
On 03/12/2013 07:37 PM, Lukas Benedix wrote: Hi there! I am Lukas Benedix, a student of computer science at the Freie Universität Berlin in Germany. In cooperation with the Wikidata developer team, I’m currently working on my bachelor thesis about usability testing in open source software

[Wikitech-l] Virtual machines for testing IE

2013-03-12 Thread Matthew Flaschen
http://www.modern.ie/en-us/virtualization-tools is offering VMs for testing various versions of IE. Unlike before, they now even offer VirtualBox and VMWare images, so you don't have to convert the Virtual PC ones. Matt Flaschen ___ Wikitech-l mailing

[Wikitech-l] Pronunciation recording tool wanted

2013-03-12 Thread Lars Aronsson
In Wiktionary, it's very convenient that some words have sound illustrations, e.g. http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/go%C3%BBter These audio bites are simple 2-3 second OGG files, e.g. http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Fr-go%C3%BBter.ogg but they are limited in number. It would be very easy to

Re: [Wikitech-l] New unified SSL certificate deployed

2013-03-12 Thread Ryan Lane
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 4:47 PM, Brion Vibber br...@pobox.com wrote: Thanks guys! -- brion Don't thank us too quick. We needed to revert this for mobile. Seems *. m.wikipedia.org was also missing from the cert. Needless to say I'll be writing a script that can be run against a cert to ensure

Re: [Wikitech-l] Pronunciation recording tool wanted

2013-03-12 Thread Brian Wolff
On 3/12/13, Lars Aronsson l...@aronsson.se wrote: In Wiktionary, it's very convenient that some words have sound illustrations, e.g. http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/go%C3%BBter These audio bites are simple 2-3 second OGG files, e.g. http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Fr-go%C3%BBter.ogg

Re: [Wikitech-l] Pronunciation recording tool wanted

2013-03-12 Thread Tyler Romeo
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 9:29 PM, Brian Wolff bawo...@gmail.com wrote: It was solvable with a java applet (or flash, but that's usually considered evil) back in 2003. However it still requires someone to actually do it. For security purposes, I'm really hoping we don't plan on using a Java

Re: [Wikitech-l] Pronunciation recording tool wanted

2013-03-12 Thread Matthew Flaschen
On 03/12/2013 09:01 PM, Lars Aronsson wrote: Provide a tool on the toolserver, or any other server, having a simple link syntax that specifies the language code and the text, e.g. http://toolserver.org/mytool.php?lang=frtext=gouter Good idea, though I agree with Brian a special page would be

Re: [Wikitech-l] Pronunciation recording tool wanted

2013-03-12 Thread Brian Wolff
On 3/12/13, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 9:29 PM, Brian Wolff bawo...@gmail.com wrote: It was solvable with a java applet (or flash, but that's usually considered evil) back in 2003. However it still requires someone to actually do it. For security

Re: [Wikitech-l] Pronunciation recording tool wanted

2013-03-12 Thread Tyler Romeo
On Mar 12, 2013 10:08 PM, Brian Wolff bawo...@gmail.com wrote: On 3/12/13, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 9:29 PM, Brian Wolff bawo...@gmail.com wrote: It was solvable with a java applet (or flash, but that's usually considered evil) back in 2003. However

Re: [Wikitech-l] Pronunciation recording tool wanted

2013-03-12 Thread Brian Wolff
On 3/12/13, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote: On Mar 12, 2013 10:08 PM, Brian Wolff bawo...@gmail.com wrote: On 3/12/13, Tyler Romeo tylerro...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 9:29 PM, Brian Wolff bawo...@gmail.com wrote: It was solvable with a java applet (or flash, but

Re: [Wikitech-l] Pronunciation recording tool wanted

2013-03-12 Thread K. Peachey
On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 11:29 AM, Brian Wolff bawo...@gmail.com wrote: Someone could probably make an extension that integrates with MediaWiki, so all user has to do is go to special:recordAudio and they could record/upload from there. Perhaps that would make a good gsoc project (Not sure if

Re: [Wikitech-l] Replacement for tagging in Gerrit

2013-03-12 Thread Rob Lanphier
Hi Guillaume, Good point. Comments below... On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 7:03 AM, Guillaume Paumier gpaum...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 2:11 AM, Rob Lanphier ro...@wikimedia.org wrote: Short version: This mail is fishing for feedback on proposed work on Gerrit-Bugzilla

Re: [Wikitech-l] Replacement for tagging in Gerrit

2013-03-12 Thread Rob Lanphier
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 10:14 AM, K. Peachey p858sn...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 2:43 AM, Greg Grossmeier g...@wikimedia.org wrote: 4) A Gerrit-based tagging plugin would need some engineering that might not be apparent at first blush, for example: who can set tags and remove

Re: [Wikitech-l] Pronunciation recording tool wanted

2013-03-12 Thread Antoine Musso
Le 13/03/13 04:07, K. Peachey wrote: That wouldn't be a bad project for GSoC as it isn't too large so it means we could actually see some results, And if it was too small, The student could probably do a couple of smaller projects (it being one) then focus on one after the other. The smaller

Re: [Wikitech-l] New unified SSL certificate deployed

2013-03-12 Thread Risker
On 12 March 2013 21:15, Ryan Lane rlan...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 4:47 PM, Brion Vibber br...@pobox.com wrote: Thanks guys! -- brion Don't thank us too quick. We needed to revert this for mobile. Seems *. m.wikipedia.org was also missing from the cert. Needless to

Re: [Wikitech-l] New unified SSL certificate deployed

2013-03-12 Thread Ryan Lane
You mean: https://arbcom.en.wikipedia.org ? Our certificates have never covered that. That's a sub-sub domain, and our certs only cover single subdomains. We really need to rename all of our sub-sub domains to single subdomains for them to be covered (or we need to include every sub-subdomain in

Re: [Wikitech-l] New unified SSL certificate deployed

2013-03-12 Thread Risker
Yes, that's the wiki I mean. And I can see your point about all those sub-subdomains; there must be a stack of them. The domain name was changed fairly recently and we got the bad cert messages then, and added our exceptions. Tonight we got the messages again. Perhaps it was because the

[Wikitech-l] Wikimedia engineering February 2013 report

2013-03-12 Thread Sumana Harihareswara
Hi, The report covering Wikimedia engineering activities (including upcoming events, new hires, and open positions) in February 2013 is now available. Thanks to Guillaume Paumier, Priyanka Nag, Tilman Bayer and the engineers who helped put this together. Wiki version:

Re: [Wikitech-l] New unified SSL certificate deployed

2013-03-12 Thread Ryan Lane
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 9:45 PM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, that's the wiki I mean. And I can see your point about all those sub-subdomains; there must be a stack of them. The domain name was changed fairly recently and we got the bad cert messages then, and added our

Re: [Wikitech-l] New unified SSL certificate deployed

2013-03-12 Thread Jeremy Baron
On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 12:50 AM, Ryan Lane rlan...@gmail.com wrote: I wonder if we have a bug in about renaming sub-subdomain wikis Let's use Bug 31335 - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31335 -Jeremy ___ Wikitech-l mailing list

Re: [Wikitech-l] New unified SSL certificate deployed

2013-03-12 Thread Risker
On 13 March 2013 00:50, Ryan Lane rlan...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 9:45 PM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, that's the wiki I mean. And I can see your point about all those sub-subdomains; there must be a stack of them. The domain name was changed fairly recently

Re: [Wikitech-l] New unified SSL certificate deployed

2013-03-12 Thread Ryan Lane
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 10:06 PM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: Well, if you need to rename the wiki again, a bit of notice would be appreciated; it was rather a shock when folks went to log in using bookmarks, only to find they no longer worked. We still haven't finished cleaning up