McCown - 3 [mailto:ch...@beehive.net]
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 11:48 AM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mac Dearman OT
So, what is that diet like? Lipitor was killing me so I threw it away.
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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun
Lots of airplane owners swear by them.
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From: George Rogato wi...@oregonfast.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 8:20 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Charging Battery Desulphator
Anyone familiar with these?
There are pseudo square waves on ethernet. Those have an infinite number of
harmonics.
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From: Brian Rohrbacher
To: WISPA General List
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 10:11 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] FM radio station site strangeness
I installed a cat5
What kind of radios/antennas?
I can make a slot antenna out of the same metal they use for the building.
It would be invisible. But spendy...
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From: Jim Patient sa...@jeffcosoho.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 5:05 PM
I couldn't get it to play. Any way to make it an attachment?
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From: George Rogato wi...@oregonfast.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 8:41 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Voip commercial
The radio station sent me this new ad for my
We send email bills directly from the BOSS/Platypus system.
Stopped doing paper bills a year or more ago. We were using a Pitney Bowes
system.
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From: Travis Johnson t...@ida.net
To: isp-wirel...@isp-wireless.com; WISPA General List
wireless@wispa.org; Motorola
Us too. Personal property.
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From: George Rogato wi...@oregonfast.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 9:19 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] equipment state property taxes
Yeppers
Our county has a property tax on business equipment,
We have that happen on a regular basis. You have to use armored cable, and
even then they will eat through it.
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From: Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 11:27 AM
Subject: [WISPA] A Squirrel Took My
Are you sure it is non-live? Normally AM antennas are the whole tower. Is
it sitting on an insulator at the base? Do you know the power of the
transmitter? 160 feet sure fits the mold of a quarter wavelength vertical.
Like 1460 kHz. If it is shunt fed, then you will have a tap up about a
I am guessing WMFJ
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From: Leon D. Zetekoff, NCE wa4...@backwoodswireless.net
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2009 7:09 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] POE up AM radio tower
* Doug Ratcliffe wrote, On 1/3/2009 7:33 PM:
The tower is a
Not worth shipping unless you have a whole bunch.
Look up in your local yellow pages metal recyclers or scrap metal dealers.
They might take it off your hands, perhaps giving you a few dollars. The
problem is the ratio of insulation to copper.
Too much plastic, not enough copper. If you were
What do you consider reasonable.
Dragonwave 24 G would be good. Orthogon, Trango Giga, Ligowave.
If money is not an issue, I would go Dragonwave. Licensed or unlicensed.
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From: Rogelio scubac...@gmail.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday,
I generally characterize our government, (to folks from other places where
there is not so much freedom) as an insane giant robot that was originally
created to work for us and is collectively owned by all of us.
We have hired hundreds of thousands of programmers and mechanics to fix it
and
How about a composite fiber map?
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From: Brian Webster bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 8:56 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] wholesale bandwidth
You know it might be a good idea to compile a list of
Wilson Electronics makes some of the best systems I know of.
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From: Mike Brownson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 12:08 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] ATT Cell Band
Both of the guys below are ok for your home or
Redline 286 0.29%
Alvarion 4030 4.15%
Ubiquity 1778 1.83%
Canopy 43767 45.09%
Other 8326 8.58%
Trango 11352 11.70%
Tranzeo 12779 13.17%
MT 14746 15.19%
97064 100.00%
Responses 96
percent Customer Satisfaction? Users of x, y ,z ?
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
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From: Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 8:27 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Fw: [Motorola II] 60
Probably the largest WISP in the US. Mostly Canopy based.
We don't have their numbers in the survey.
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From: Jeff Broadwick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 12:02 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Where is JAB when we
Brand # Subs % By Subs
Redline 286 0.30%
Alvarion 4027 4.24%
Ubiquity 1778 1.87%
Canopy 41617 43.85%
Other 8316 8.76%
Trango 11352 11.96%
Tranzeo 12779 13.47%
MT 14746 15.54%
Total 94901 100.00%
Responses 93
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, 6 Dec 2008, Chuck McCown - 3 wrote:
Perhaps if we get a few more MT might edge above 14%...
Perhaps, but don't assume I have a dog in this fight. I'm not tied
to MT in any way. ;-) I have customers using Trango, Canopy,
Alvarion, MT, StarOS and more
Brand # Subs % By Subs
Redline 286 0.56%
Alvarion 938 1.83%
Ubiquity 960 1.88%
Canopy 32933 64.39%
Other 4345 8.49%
Trango 8217 16.06%
MT 3471 6.79%
Total 51150 100.00%
Responses 47
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1. 55 Sun, 12/7/08 3:08 PM
2. 1550 Sun, 12/7/08 1:36 PM
3. 150 Sun, 12/7/08 12:31 PM
4. 250 Sun, 12/7/08 10:22 AM
5. 1800 Sun, 12/7/08 8:55 AM
6. 850 Sun, 12/7/08 8:09 AM
7. 8 Sun, 12/7/08 7:26 AM
8. 370 Sat, 12/6/08 8:46 PM
9. 7200 Sat,
Some use multiple technologies mixed. 34 use canopy. I have sent the
detail. Looks believable to me.
I guess the is the problem, I state a metric, like Mot reports having half
the market. So someone says they are full of crap and that nobody can
believe something like that.
(Part of being
... as well as Trango and others.
Travis
Microserv
Chuck McCown - 3 wrote:
Some use multiple technologies mixed. 34 use canopy. I have sent the
detail. Looks believable to me.
I guess the is the problem, I state a metric, like Mot reports having
half the market. So someone says they are full
Not totally sure if you-all can access this URL. It is where the survey
responses are.
When I click it it goes right to it. But it may have cached my IP or I
might have a cookie so it isn't requiring a username or password.
Would someone please check this to see if the results are open to all?
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From: Chuck McCown - 3
Date: 12/7/2008 4:31:08 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Motorola II] Responses URL
Not totally sure if you-all can access this URL. It is where the survey
responses
Is that even possible. What is the best modulation method currently in use?
Divide 100 Gig by the best modulation method and then someone please tell me
there is a space segment that broad that can legally be used.
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From: Marlon K. Schafer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:
Heck I just plugged in an 8087 and am good another decade or two...
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From: RickG [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 9:05 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Article
286? When did you upgrade from your 8088? :)
That's odd. I don't think anyone else has reported a problem.
Here is the latest summary.
Brand # Subs % By Subs
Redline 286 0.49%
Alvarion 3523 6.09%
Ubiquity 1140 1.97%
Canopy 34373 59.38%
Other 4585 7.92%
Trango 9276 16.02%
MT 4707 8.13%
I would still like to see the giant map done.
Personally I would trust WISPA as a trusted third party to hold confidential
data for aggregation purposes.
And if others didn't trust WISPA, WISPA could hire a CPA firm to hold the
data. Wouldn't cost that much.
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From:
Subject: Re: [WISPA] US Broadband Internet Satellite Scheduled for
Launchin2011 (PC World) by PC World: Yahoo! Tech
Spot beams for frequency reuse, FSO, millimeter wave. I can see a few ways
to do terabytes per second.
Scriv
On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 10:10 PM, Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL
in the sky smoke and mirrors to me. They should disclose
their technology. Actually, if they have filed for frequencies it will be
public.
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From: Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 10:06 PM
Subject
throughput numbers by using caching or something. Hard to tell by reading
the document. But at least they will still have latency.
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From: Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 10:20 PM
Subject: Re
we will see FSO and millimeter wave used on satellite Internet
delivery within the next 5 years (rain fade and all). You can call me
Netstradamus. :-)
Scriv
On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 11:06 PM, Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I don't think any FSO or millimeter wave will work from
] Public ROW
Chuck,
I assume you are self insured... but if not, who do you use?
ryan
On Dec 5, 2008, at 7:16 PM, Chuck McCown - 3 wrote:
Insurance and bonds are not really all that expensive. Your insurance
company will help you out.
We have to have metered service now
for 2second to scrap or sell
their Canopy line.
/Eje
Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
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From: Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 19:25:37
To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Client Speeds
Digis was 100% Canopy. I
Maybe travelers.
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From: Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 7:57 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Public ROW
No, not self insured, but very high deductibles.
I'm on the road right now, not sure
I put up a survey of type of technology used and number of subs at survey
monkey.
I didn't pay for the premium version so you cannot immediately see results.
I will post results periodically over the next day or two.
If anyone doubts the veracity of what I post, I will give you the username
I screwed up. Results are coming in but no way can I tie the technology to
the sub count.
Anyone know survey monkey well enough so that the result is how many subs on
each type of technology?
What I did will not be very meaningful. Sorry.
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From: Chuck McCown - 3
I think I fixed it. If you have already taken the survey please return and
fill out the extra box of subs per technology.
You can return as many times as you wish per IP.
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To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Cc: [EMAIL
Redline 0.
Alvarion 0.
Ubiquity 0.
Canopy 6250
Other 25
Trango 135
Tranzeo 0.
MicroTik 5
Number of subscribers 8735
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I am cooling my heels in downtown Chicago and for some reason my wife does
not want to sit in this hotel room while I watch survey results all day
long. So, gotta go do the husband-on-a-one-day-vacation thing. Will post
fresh results when I get back.
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That grand total of survey monkey is wrong. If you add all the subs you get
34832 total with 20755 of those Canopy. So 60% Canopy. Still north of the
50% that Mot will tell you. If JAB got on here that percentage would go way
up. But as it is, I think this is a fairly good sampling.
Irrespective of what type of infrastructure you pick, once you pick it you
are somewhat stuck.
The farther down that road you go, the more you are stuck.
Many things are like this.
A spouse, a religion, a branch of the armed forces, a class 5 end office
switch, a house, an investment, a
this
before?
-RickG
On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 8:27 PM, Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
A statistically significant sample is defined as a population over 30.
For an off the cuff sample it isn't bad at all.
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I don't know why we are getting duplicates. Sorry. Hope it doesn't
continue.
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AnimalFarm converts Sheep to Pigs!
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From: Mike Hammett [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 10:53 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Article
I'm not saying we should do what Mark says, I'm not even saying Mark is
right
Maybe he took his frog meds...
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From: Bob Moldashel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 6:33 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Do you provide backup services?
Wow
Bitch and complain about WISPA's position and
aren't upside down
on
every new customer.
Travis
Microserv
Chuck McCown - 3 wrote:
You are doing it. Just keep bootstrapping. Once you get 1000
subscribers
things will be a bit better.
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From: Steve Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL
of the network).
Heck Chuck... your above 5,000 wireless subs aren't you?
Daniel White
3-dB Networks
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Chuck McCown - 3
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 7:11 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA
Yes, they are there for the asking. As a telco, the only thing we have over
non telcos is the right to condemn. Even the railroads have a very
straightforward procedure for crossing the tracks or running along side
them.
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From: D. Ryan Spott [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:
still deployed?
Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL Wireless, Inc
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From: Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 9:25 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Client Speeds
Digis
Insurance and bonds are not really all that expensive. Your insurance
company will help you out.
We have to have metered service now. That is no different. Engineering
review is not something the local govt charges for here.
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I agree, you just need to be as good as or better than the competition. And
in many places the competition is still dialup.
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From: Josh Luthman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 9:56 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA]
amen
We love Plat.
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From: George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 10:27 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Billing and process management system
Platypus
Been using it for years, does everything.
PC is much more spendy than Plat. That is one of the reasons we did not go
with PC.
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From: Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 2:42 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Billing and process management system
With any internet technology, aggregation is happening somewhere. DSL you have
a pipe to the C.O. but then there may be limited overhead. Cable modems
aggregate in various branches of their distribution. Wireless aggregates at
the AP. Satellite... big AP in the sky. Even FTTH has shared
You are doing it. Just keep bootstrapping. Once you get 1000 subscribers
things will be a bit better.
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From: Steve Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 7:32 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Client Speeds
I have
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This is the guy that compiled the article. Write him and educate him. I
did.
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From: Josh Luthman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 10:40 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] The
This is what his autoresponder sent. So, email both of them.
I will be out of the office December 3rd - 5th, returning Monday December
8th. For answers to any questions regarding PCMag.com content, talk to Vicki
Jacobson: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Chuck McCown
There deals clear down to $7/meg.
Ask vendors for a 2 year contract, GigE 100 Mbps burstable.
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From: John Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 10:07 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth
I am certain you can do much better than that.
And you don't even have to be in Chicago or Detroit.
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To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 8:19 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth and costs...
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From: Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 10:53 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth and costs...
I am certain you can do much better than that.
And you don't even have to be in Chicago or Detroit
NS5
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From: Jack Unger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 4:28 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] stopgap for congested wi-fi channel
Well, speaking as one of the most experienced wireless
I had the same question. The main difference is that we know before the
roll in most cases the frequency and color code and if that ap is blocked by
trees we generally have several others in different directions that the tech
can switch to on the fly. Most importantly, 6 months later it is
LEDs lack resolution.
While you can bracket the signal and guess at the center, with more significant
digits you don't have to guess.
Both methods work, but bracketing takes some skill.
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] WiMax delays?
On Mon, 24 Nov 2008, Chuck McCown - 3 wrote:
If you hang out over at [EMAIL PROTECTED] you will find
more than
a hundred WISPs, many
?
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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From: Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 11:17 PM
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Subject: Re: [WISPA] WiMax delays?
The very best
the bandwidth gets delivered. So
why
not use a product that can deliver twice the bandwidth for 1/3 the price?
;)
Travis
Microserv
Chuck McCown - 3 wrote:
If you hang out over at [EMAIL PROTECTED] you will find more than a
hundred
WISPs, many of them very small operations from 100-1000
I think the canopy 450 will do something like 30 down and 10 up. So that could
give you 20 simultaneously which statistically could work if you had 50-100 on
an AP.
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To: WISPA General List
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 7:30 AM
All the stations were given an extra set of channels to fire up and operate
the DTV transmitters. Mostly on UHF. This happened years ago and in this
are we have been receiving a digital TV signal for about 8 years. Once the
VHF analog transmitters are switched off, the broadcasters I know
I had a physics professor that would allow solutions to problems to be
submitted in any unit measure. Since he had TAs and grad students doing the
grading it was no skin of his nose. Lots of furlongs per fortnight velocity
measurements. Units of photon energy to describe frequency. But when
are building out our
network.
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From: Butch Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 9:06 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information
On Mon, 24 Nov 2008, Chuck McCown - 3 wrote:
I think
General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 9:24 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information
On Mon, 24 Nov 2008, Chuck McCown - 3 wrote:
I deliver 100 mbps wholesale to many rural areas for $3-4K/month
type of figure. That includes transport. And stastically
will not work. So then
what?
Travis
Microserv
Chuck McCown - 3 wrote:
I deliver 100 mbps wholesale to many rural areas for $3-4K/month type of
figure.
That includes transport.
And stastically, you can oversub it, even with streaming content.
You are never going to have all 20 streaming
Where do you rate Ubiquity Nanostations or the Bullet?
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To: WISPA General List
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 9:32 PM
Subject: [WISPA] WiMax delays?
I don't think this is entirely true. For us, it becomes a value decision.
If
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Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 9:50 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information
On Mon, 24 Nov 2008, Chuck McCown - 3 wrote:
What I have done, you can do too. Just takes lots of time and work
and bootstrapping.
Ok..so
If you hang out over at [EMAIL PROTECTED] you will find more than a hundred
WISPs, many of them very small operations from 100-1000 subscribers that are
100% canopy. And generally speaking they are kicking butt and taking names
in their markets. I disagree that Canopy is not marketed to the
Amen, nobody ever said you could build it and rest on your laurels.
No small business is safe from changes that come with time.
Evolve or die. I am not going to sit around complaining the sky is falling.
So the cost to meet the future needs of our subscribers is real, it's
not as hard to
just because my competitors are using it. And really, any
more, the customer doesn't care HOW the bandwidth gets delivered. So why not
use a product that can deliver twice the bandwidth for 1/3 the price? ;)
Travis
Microserv
Chuck McCown - 3 wrote:
If you hang out over at [EMAIL PROTECTED
Did I interpret your data correctly to mean that if you had a sustained
256Kbps it would work?
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From: Dennis Burgess [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 2:42 PM
Subject: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth
OK, but if you look at Dennis's data, it appears to me that the average was
in the hundreds of K.
But maybe I didn't read it correctly.
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To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 3:07 PM
Subject:
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Behalf Of Chuck McCown - 3
Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 3:52 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] NetFlix Streaming Bandwidth Information
Did I interpret your data correctly to mean that if you had
One source:
http://tnrbatteries.com/genesis.html
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From: Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 10:12 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Remote Powered Access Pont
http://www.enersysreservepower.com
panel. Also 30 days or 360AH of
usable capacity at 12V?
Thanks for the clarification, and the pics that make your experience
clear!
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 7:38 PM, Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
At 60% depth of discharge they freeze at 0F. Once frozen they are dead.
Liquid
We tried with a bulldozer one year. Never made it. One of our guys almost
went over the edge of a switchback trying. We gave up, waited till the storm
blew over and hired the helicopter.
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From: Travis Johnson
To: WISPA General List
Sent: Thursday,
For adjacent channel use, we don't have to use a 6 MHz channel. We could
use 5 or 4 or whatever it takes to make it work.
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From: Jack Unger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 1:32 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] TV
You could have a lower gain omni as just a sense antenna.
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From: John Valenti [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 5:20 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] TVBD height requirement
Mike,
Where are you reading this on
I would use a 100 watt panel minimum.
And a one month battery. 5watts * 24hours * 30 days = 3600 watt hour
battery
If you are running a 24 volt system then you need 3600/24=150 aH battery.
If you are running a 12 volt system, you need a 300 aH battery.
You will pay about 30 cents per watt hour
Here is a note I posted several days ago on the Motorola list about solar
powering.
From: Chuck McCown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 9:17 AM
To: Dave Crim
Subject: Re: solar
Continuing on a bit, lets say you have 5 lousy days and one good sunny day
followed by 5
We buy batts that are rated to give you the energy down to -20F.
Survive being at-20F while discharged to a stone cold state.
And recover when the next available bit of sunlight hits the panel (perhaps
days later).
And last 2000 cycles.
For that you pay 30 cents per watt hour. And can sleep at
total
battery size so we never discharge them below 60%
Sounds like you are in a much more inaccessible environment than we are! And
in that kind of location, I'd likely be looking for the same thing.
But, for us, inaccessibility won't last more than a week or so...
Chuck McCown - 3 wrote
I think that if you want to use WISPA to mine market data, then the results
should be made public for all to share.
You are not the only vendor member of WISPA that has TVWS product in the
pipeline you know.
- Original Message -
From: Kevin Suitor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General
Wonder why it attached the reply...
- Original Message -
From: Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 5:41 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] TV Whitespaces PtP Backhaul
I would buy one today if I could.
- Original Message -
From: George Rogato [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 6:42 PM
Subject: [WISPA] Need a power supply?
http://www.hyperionpowergeneration.com/
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Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Chuck McCown - 3
Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 9:47 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need a power supply
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