Re: [WISPA] POE up AM radio tower

2009-01-05 Thread lakeland
The reality on an AM site is that the whole thing is a crap shoot. You could throw up the cheapest crap in the world and it could work fine. Then you throw up the best stuff on the market and you have nothing but headaches. AM sites are really to be avoided even if they are not direct fed. Use

Re: [WISPA] New WISPA Vendor Member - Aperto Networks

2009-01-05 Thread Brad Belton
Patrick who? Never heard of him... grin Welcome Patrick! Look forward to hearing about all the great products Aperto will be offering in 2009. Best, Brad -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of John Scrivner Sent: Monday,

[WISPA] Postage

2009-01-05 Thread Travis Johnson
Hi, I'm curious what everyone else is using for sending USPS letters and packages? We've had a nice postage machine (seals, stamps, etc.) that does our envelopes each month (about 1,500 per month). However, I'm getting tired of these companies (Neopost) charging $200 for a software update

Re: [WISPA] New WISPA Vendor Member - Aperto Networks

2009-01-05 Thread Patrick Leary
Thanks Brad... -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Brad Belton Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 9:17 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] New WISPA Vendor Member - Aperto Networks Patrick who? Never heard of

Re: [WISPA] equipment state property taxes

2009-01-05 Thread Blake Bowers
As an aside, KY is being extremely tough on tower owners, wanting complete inventories of equipment at a tower, and wanting to tax all towers as if they were all cell phone towers. They have one guy that is doing nothing but going from the FCC ASR and cross checking tax rolls. He stated that

Re: [WISPA] equipment state property taxes

2009-01-05 Thread Tom DeReggi
John, We were talking about Personal Property Tax, not Sales Tax. But you made a good point, Sales Tax is also an issue that WISPs need to be aware of. The liabilty for Sales Tax is just the rate of sales tax for one year. (6% in MD). But Property Tax can be worse, because it is assessed every

Re: [WISPA] Postage

2009-01-05 Thread Josh Luthman
Emailing the invoice for the most part. Makes things a lot easier for everyone and it is free. On 1/5/09, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: Hi, I'm curious what everyone else is using for sending USPS letters and packages? We've had a nice postage machine (seals, stamps, etc.) that does

Re: [WISPA] Postage

2009-01-05 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
As do we. And when they say they need a paper invoice I reply "Click Print". Brian Josh Luthman wrote: Emailing the invoice for the most part. Makes things a lot easier for everyone and it is "free". On 1/5/09, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: Hi, I'm curious what everyone

Re: [WISPA] POE up AM radio tower

2009-01-05 Thread Dustin Jurman
Brian, They knew way before. How high are you going up? Dustin From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 9:46 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] POE up AM radio tower Doug

Re: [WISPA] Postage

2009-01-05 Thread Aaron D. Osgood
Look into having a 3rd party print, stuff ad mail your invoices - one of the firms we have done this with does it FAR cheaper than I could (volume postage discounts and industrial printing equipment). Basically, you upload a digital file on billing day and they do the rest in hours Aaron D.

Re: [WISPA] Postage

2009-01-05 Thread Dennis Burgess - Linktechs.net
Something else you can do is use a printing co. There should be one local to you. They should be able to print, stuff and qualify for bulk rates. Something else we did, we had 220 people in my subdivision, it was 92 bucks for postage, plus envelopes, plus printing, plus paper etc.

Re: [WISPA] Postage

2009-01-05 Thread lakeland
We would e-mail invoices on the 25th and reminders on the 5th. Then suspend service on the 20th and charge $25 to reconnect. The other option is a payment coupon book. Only need to mail once. You would be surprised how well they work Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original

Re: [WISPA] Postage

2009-01-05 Thread Brad Belton
We recently had to replace our Pitney Bowes postage machine after 10-15yrs of service from it. It was a good old machine.klunkdy-klunk as letters were pushed through it. It still worked fine, but became obsolete and longer supported etc, etc. The new Pitney Bowes machine is pretty slick and

Re: [WISPA] Postage

2009-01-05 Thread Cameron Kilton
We use a couple pitney bowes machines. Ones that folds and stuffs envelops and the other stamps and seals. If I had my way, I would just make everyone use credit cards. I know some other companies that offer a $1 or so off a month if they get automatically billed by CC. -Cam -Original

Re: [WISPA] Postage

2009-01-05 Thread Jeff Broadwick
My cellular company charges customers if they want a paper bill by mail. Online is free. Jeff -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Brad Belton Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 12:57 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re:

Re: [WISPA] POE up AM radio tower

2009-01-05 Thread Mike Hammett
I usually know what my competitors are doing before they think about doing it. ;-) They should know where all of your locations are, just as you should know where all of their locations are. It makes RF cooperation a whole lot easier that way. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing

Re: [WISPA] POE up AM radio tower

2009-01-05 Thread Jack Unger
Interference Well You've got to give a little, take a little And let your poor heart break a little That's the story of, That's the glory of WISP You've got to laugh a little, cry a little Until the clouds roll by a little That's the story of, That's the glory of WISP You've got

Re: [WISPA] POE up AM radio tower

2009-01-05 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
Doug Ratcliffe wrote: So now that the entire internet now has figured out which tower I'm talking about (including local competition that may not have known where my tower broadcasts were located)... All the more reason to use the members list.. What kind of ethernet/POE

[WISPA] Aperto Wimax Promotion

2009-01-05 Thread Mike Cowan
Welcome aboard Patrick. We are pleased to be working with you. In support of your promotion we will be providing personalized Aperto training via our Webinar process for those that take you up on the promotion. The training is open ended, but normally takes 6 hours. This should prepare the

Re: [WISPA] POE up AM radio tower

2009-01-05 Thread Doug Ratcliffe
True. The height is 160 feet. I was thinking about using outside plant heavy duty shielded 25-pair Cat5e rated 50-pin telco cables, rather than 14 individual cat-5 wires, going into 6-cable cat5e octopus cables at the top and bottom for easier cable management. - Original Message -

Re: [WISPA] Postage

2009-01-05 Thread Scott Vander Dussen
Travis- As Brad and some others have mentioned, we use a PB stamping system as well - monthly fees are nominal and works well. As a side note we charge $2.99/mo paper statement fee for customers who demand paper statements mailed monthly, 6mo and 12mo pre-paid customers get them for free

Re: [WISPA] equipment state property taxes

2009-01-05 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
It's called "personal property tax" around here. All the businesses pay it here. I get to pay it right to my mom, the township treasurer. Brian Mike Hammett wrote: I've never heard of a property tax that was applied to anything other than a parcel of land or a structure. I know our

[WISPA] New WISPA Vendor Member - Aperto Networks

2009-01-05 Thread John Scrivner
I would like to welcome an old friend here to WISPA membership. Many of you have known Patrick Leary for years as a friend of the WISP industry. Patrick has recently joined forces with Aperto Networks. Today Aperto Networks is a Vendor Member of WISPA and Patrick Leary as their representative

Re: [WISPA] what should ARPU mean?

2009-01-05 Thread Matt Liotta
What if one customer signs two different contracts? at two different locations? Is there ever a point where a single customer should for the purposes of ARPU be considered at a less granular level? -Matt On Jan 5, 2009, at 2:09 PM, Travis Johnson wrote: My assumption has always been

Re: [WISPA] what should ARPU mean?

2009-01-05 Thread Ron Harden
ARPU is also a widely used term and barometer of success within the cable industry. They continue to attempt to drive ARPU by bundling additional products in their service offering. Like voice services! :) But also by marketing premium services -- I just upgraded to Brighthouse's 15 MB 'turbo'

Re: [WISPA] Postage

2009-01-05 Thread Mark Nash
We charge a higher amount for business class service. For those customers, we will send them a paper bill for free, but only when they ask and we try to get an email address from them. For those customers that we charge $500-$2000 a month, we don't even ask, we just send them a paper bill. For

Re: [WISPA] equipment state property taxes

2009-01-05 Thread RickG
It is property tax AKA usage tax and has nothing to do with sales tax. Also, it is a FMV lease. Unfortunately, the leasing company wrote it into the lease. Thanks to all for your comments! -RickG On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 11:36 AM, John Scrivner j...@scrivner.com wrote: Is this property tax or

Re: [WISPA] Postage

2009-01-05 Thread Blair Davis
Cameron Kilton wrote: I know some other companies that offer a $1 or so off a month if they get automatically billed by CC. We do this. Switched about half our users in a month. WISPA Wants You! Join

Re: [WISPA] equipment state property taxes

2009-01-05 Thread RickG
Ya, I learned about the sales tax issue a long time ago. It's really no big deal is you purchase locally but those ebay purchased really add up! -RickG On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 12:44 PM, Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net wrote: John, We were talking about Personal Property Tax, not Sales

Re: [WISPA] equipment state property taxes

2009-01-05 Thread Scottie Arnett
Called tangible personal property tax in TN. Scottie -- Original Message -- From: Brian Rohrbacher br...@reliableinter.net Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Mon, 05 Jan 2009 09:21:56 -0500 Wireless High Speed Broadband service from

Re: [WISPA] equipment state property taxes

2009-01-05 Thread RickG
KY is tough on everything. I've only lived here for 2 years and find the government to be anti-business compared to other states I've lived and done business in. As far as towers, I dont own any and at this point I'm glad I dont. -RickG On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 12:24 PM, Blake Bowers

Re: [WISPA] equipment state property taxes

2009-01-05 Thread Brian Rohrbacher
Ya, and you said they were "billed from the local tax authority"? That is not how it works around here. Personal property tax is based off of your assets value that is voluntarily reported. So the lease company must have reported the assets. Make sure they reported the correct value. It it

Re: [WISPA] Postage

2009-01-05 Thread Scottie Arnett
We also use the coupon books along with emailed invoices. Works very well. Scottie -- Original Message -- From: lakel...@gbcx.net Reply-To: lakel...@gbcx.net, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 17:56:26 + The other option is

Re: [WISPA] POE up AM radio tower

2009-01-05 Thread lakeland
Makes RF interference so much easier too! :-) Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2009 09:06:24 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] POE up AM radio tower I usually know what

Re: [WISPA] Postage

2009-01-05 Thread Chuck McCown - 3
We send email bills directly from the BOSS/Platypus system. Stopped doing paper bills a year or more ago. We were using a Pitney Bowes system. - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson t...@ida.net To: isp-wirel...@isp-wireless.com; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org; Motorola

Re: [WISPA] Power Reboot and Meter

2009-01-05 Thread Gino Villarini
www.controlbyweb.com Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2009 8:52 PM

Re: [WISPA] what should ARPU mean?

2009-01-05 Thread Shiraz Moosajee
Matt, You would generally count just the one unique customer. That said, every ARPU calculation I have seen seems to be slightly different which in itself reflects the different definitions of customers and revenue. One example is treatment of MDU (Multiple Dwelling Unit) Apartments which is

Re: [WISPA] what should ARPU mean?

2009-01-05 Thread Tom DeReggi
I think it also matters what the purpose is for stating ARPU. For example, if ARPU was considering ALL revenue, it would be meaningless if that revenue was not trasferable to a third party, and discussing ARPU based on selling to a third party. For example, if you are a local computer repair

Re: [WISPA] Postage

2009-01-05 Thread Charles Wu (CTI)
Platypus (Billing Company) has a service where they will print, fold, mail statements for $0.70 / invoice -- that includes printing, folding, stuffin, envelope, return envelope, perforated tear-offs and even the stamp To me, that sounds like a smoking deal (granted, you need to use the Platypus

Re: [WISPA] Power Reboot and Meter

2009-01-05 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
I have one of the new whats up ethernet units. It'll monitor a LOT of stuff AND will cause a reboot. Very small unit, not a rack mount unit. My new rack mount digital logger will give a voltage reading. Pretty nice unit. Like you said though, both are around $700. sorry marlon -

Re: [WISPA] Power Reboot and Meter

2009-01-05 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
I almost used some of those. But the pagers are pretty well gone around here now. And with the auto reboot it's not really needed for my work. marlon - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, January

Re: [WISPA] Postage

2009-01-05 Thread Josh Luthman
Quickbooks does it as well - don't know the price. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. --- Henry Spencer On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 8:41 PM, Charles Wu (CTI)

Re: [WISPA] Postage

2009-01-05 Thread can...@believewireless.net
Quickbooks has a similar service for a similar price and it's built right into Quickbooks. On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 8:41 PM, Charles Wu (CTI) c...@cticonnect.com wrote: Platypus (Billing Company) has a service where they will print, fold, mail statements for $0.70 / invoice -- that includes

Re: [WISPA] Postage

2009-01-05 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
We send out email bills. If you want a paper one then we charge an extra $1.00 per month for it. That covers the cost of licking and stamping. We also use pre-glued stamps. Just peal and stick. Hope this helps, marlon - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson t...@ida.net To:

Re: [WISPA] Postage

2009-01-05 Thread Blair Davis
415 a month, and $.70 or so per invoice. And if you have a merchant account, the users can pay on line. Josh Luthman wrote: Quickbooks does it as well - don't know the price. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 Those who don't

Re: [WISPA] Postage

2009-01-05 Thread Blair Davis
That was supposed to be $15... Blair Davis wrote: 415 a month, and $.70 or so per invoice. And if you have a merchant account, the users can pay on line. Josh Luthman wrote: Quickbooks does it as well - don't know the price. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct:

[WISPA] Tower accident

2009-01-05 Thread Blair Davis
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Re: [WISPA] Tower accident

2009-01-05 Thread Jerry Richardson
Yikes! double tie-offs __ Jerry Richardson airCloud Communications From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Blair Davis Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 11:20 PM To: WISPA

Re: [WISPA] Tower accident

2009-01-05 Thread Jack Unger
Oh NO, not the Darwin Awards again... http://darwinawards.com/darwin/darwin2007-07.html I almost died laughing... Blair Davis wrote: Tower accident... http://www.darwinawards.com/darwin/darwin2008-20.html