Without getting into the debate on the correct semantics of the dl,
I have one general problem with using it (and tables) for this case:
sequential numbering.
Placing his list in a dl or table and manually numbering them
works, but what about when a new item needs to be added to the list
Placing his list in a dl or table and manually numbering them
works, but what about when a new item needs to be added to the list
somewhere in the middle?
I'm assuming a system like this is dynamically handled back-end, so
removing this problem.
I'm not sure what the rational for dropping the
On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 20:26:26 -, Patrick Griffiths [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I'm not sure what the rational for dropping the start= from ol
was, and at first glance it seems an odd thing to do. Like others have
mention, I can see cases where it would be useful - a results list
with
1,000 entry,
Patrick wrote:
doesn't work all the time, but as a general rule: when you have this
type of inconsistencies, try and be very specific with regards to all
margins and paddings. Otherwise, you're leaving the ones you don't
specify up to the rendering engine's default, which may well vary from
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Subject: RE: [WSG] XHTML Strict alternative to ol start=11
Patrick wrote:
doesn't work all the time, but as a general rule: when you have this
type of inconsistencies, try and be very specific with regards to
all
margins and paddings
On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 23:19:02 +, Ian Fenn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Had I been doing it with HTML Transitional or similar, I would have
displayed a second page of results as follows:
ol start=11liFirst result/li
liSecond.../li
...
/ol
Do you have any suggestions as to how I could achieve a
See, I'd say a table or a definition list. I think I'm one of the
very few people who actually supports the loss of the start=
attribute.
An ordered list means there is an order, *not* that there is anything
particular assocated with that order. So, think about it in terms of
set theory, if you
See, I'd say a table or a definition list. I think I'm one of the
very few people who actually supports the loss of the start=
attribute.
I'd go with Michael, on both points.
Table would be fine, but definition list is probably better.
And the start attribute is bad because the first item in
Use Javascript. Insert the content with innerHTML.
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The Bo$$ wrote:
Use Javascript. Insert the content with innerHTML.
How accessible...and semantic! Write valid code, so you pass automated
validators, then use JS to basically mess it up in whatever way you
like? Sorry, but that's hardly the point of web standards, imho.
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On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 23:07:39 +1100, Michael Cordover
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
An ordered list means there is an order, *not* that there is anything
particular assocated with that order. So, think about it in terms of
set theory, if you will. An unordered list is like a set: {1, 2, 3}
which is
Hi,
Patrick wrote:
How accessible...and semantic! Write valid code, so you pass automated
validators, then use JS to basically mess it up in whatever way you
like? Sorry, but that's hardly the point of web standards, imho.
Indeed. At the moment I'm trying to use a definition list but I'm not
Kornel Lesinski wrote:
I don't think that definition list can replace that either.
dt11/dtddFoo/dd
Foo does not define 11.
It's just supposed to be 11th element of some list.
However, the spec is soo vague with regards to the true semantics of DL,
that the above use seems, if not ideal, at least
Ian Fenn wrote:
dt { float:left; }
dd { margin:4px 8px; }
This looks fine in firefox, but with IE 6 (Windows XP) the contents of the
first dt are appearing slightly raised in comparison to the contents of the
following dd. The other dts and dds are being displayed fine...
doesn't work all the
Hi there,
ol start=11liFirst result/li
liSecond.../li
...
/ol
My two cents: use this method. It's one of those times that the
standards are too strict without providing a robust alternative (more
the fault of browsers than standards, though).
I would support the idea of using Transitional
Ian Fenn wrote:
Had I been doing it with HTML Transitional or similar, I would have displayed a
second page of results as follows:
ol start=11liFirst result/li
liSecond.../li
...
/ol
Do you have any suggestions as to how I could achieve a similar effect with
XHTML Strict? I was thinking of using
Quoting Patrick H. Lauke [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
The painful answer is: you're supposed to do it via CSS, but
unfortunately support for counters is spotty at best...so you're left
with either reverting to transitional, or writing your own DTD.
Hmm... Thanks Patrick. Neither of these are really an
Ian Fenn wrote:
I guess I could
use a table... in this context do you think it would be acceptable?
I'd give that a tentative yes (while putting on my flame-proof piyamas),
if the number has some sort of meaning. Heck, even if it denotes order
or position I'd go with it.
table
thead
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