RE: [WSG]headers

2004-07-09 Thread Trusz, Andrew
Lee Wrote: The Semantic web has changed that. Any computer connected to the WWW can share information with another computer through Resource Description Framework which uses XML to share information. So, no longer to we have to keep our information to ourselves. We can share that information

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2004-07-08 Thread Mike Foskett
Thanks Mike, Drew, Lee, I think you'll appreciate the result. It contains most of your suggestions. Still working on the content though, with a long way to go. graphic design, copy writing, peer testing, user testing, etc. http://homepage.mac.com/backtoslack/websemantics/ once again thanks for

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2004-07-08 Thread Mike Pepper
Blimey, Mike, very smart :o) Will look forward to the finished result. Looking good :o) -Original Message- From: Mike Foskett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mike Foskett Sent: 08 July 2004 12:09 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [WSG]headers Thanks Mike, Drew, Lee, I think you'll

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2004-07-08 Thread Trusz, Andrew
: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 2:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [WSG]headers Dang, we certainly don't want to go to sleep these days. I wake up and am caught in a mire. Instead of writing several emails, I'm going to try and cover everyone's issues here. I hope I don't miss anything or get people

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2004-07-08 Thread Lee Roberts
]' Subject: RE: [WSG]headers Nothing wrong with a length where appropriate but double length is probably trying everyone's patience so I'll be slightly rude and top post while trying virtuously to be brief. It's an interesting argument you make that css was given to us to make pages look and perform

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2004-07-08 Thread Trusz, Andrew
That's about as brief as my answers. [quote] The Semantic Web provides a common framework that allows data to be shared and reused across application, enterprise, and community boundaries.[/quote] Here's the full quote Lee: The Semantic Web provides a

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2004-07-08 Thread Lee Roberts
that little issue up. Lee Roberts http://www.roserockdesign.com http://www.applepiecart.com -Original Message- From: Trusz, Andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 8:57 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [WSG]headers That's about as brief as my answers. [quote

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2004-07-08 Thread Mike Pepper
]headers -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lee Roberts Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 12:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [WSG]headers Let's look at the Introduction to the Semantic Web. [quote] Facilities to put machine

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2004-07-08 Thread Lee Roberts
How we got on the subject of the Semantic web from headers I don't know. I think we're somehow missing the entire point of the Semantic web. Even prior to the development of RDF, OWL, XML and the like people were able to partake and consume the information available from various sources. It

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2004-07-07 Thread Mike Foskett
Peeps, I thought I knew what I was doing with headers, now I'm getting confused. My XHTML docs are structured like this: titlePage name - Site name/title h1Site name/h1 [not visible 2nd part of the title - Placed behind an image of the same] h1Content (Page name)

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2004-07-07 Thread Mike Pepper
www.gawds.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mike Foskett Sent: 07 July 2004 10:27 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [WSG]headers Peeps, I thought I knew what I was doing with headers, now I'm getting confused. My XHTML docs are structured

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2004-07-07 Thread Trusz, Andrew
Lee wrote: There are more than W3C standards. While the W3C standards are great, they leave too much to interpretation. Hence the problem that arises here. Please explain why you might think a couple of sentences qualifies to be under it's own sectional heading. I'd really be interested in

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2004-07-07 Thread Mike Pepper
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Trusz, Andrew Sent: 07 July 2004 12:48 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [WSG]headers Lee wrote: There are more than W3C standards. While the W3C standards are great, they leave too much to interpretation. Hence the problem that arises

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2004-07-07 Thread Trusz, Andrew
Drew, I endorse the single h1 per page particularly because each page is judged on its own when sought for relevancy in the search engines. That's from where the majority of fresh users hit a site, based on search criteria. Though others may argue that we shouldn't construct with a view to

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2004-07-07 Thread Mike Foskett
Drew, Mike, So, if I get this right then technically speaking: titlePage name - Site name/title divSite name/div [not visible 2nd part of the title - Placed behind an image of the same] h1Content (Page name) heading/h1 [visible 1st part of the title] h2/h2

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2004-07-07 Thread Mike Pepper
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mike Foskett Sent: 07 July 2004 15:55 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [WSG]headers Drew, Mike, So, if I get this right then technically speaking: titlePage name - Site name/title divSite name/div [not visible 2nd part

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2004-07-07 Thread Trusz, Andrew
Drew, Mike, So, if I get this right then technically speaking: titlePage name - Site name/title divSite name/div [not visible 2nd part of the title - Placed behind an image of the same] h1Content (Page name) heading/h1 [visible 1st part of the title] h2/h2

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2004-07-07 Thread Lee Roberts
this helps. My apologies for being so long. Sincerely, Lee Roberts http://www.roserockdesign.com http://www.applepiecart.com -Original Message- From: Mike Foskett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 8:55 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [WSG]headers Drew, Mike, So

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2004-07-07 Thread Mike Pepper
I wake up and am caught in a mire. That's your own fault for not being a die-hard 2-hour a day man. I dunno, the youth of today , no stamina ... ;o) From a search engine standpoint any form of hidden text is considered spamming. That includes, but not limited to, negative positioning, placing

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2004-07-06 Thread Trusz, Andrew
On the H1 issue, there are many people that think using an H1 around the logo or hidden text. Unfortunately, that is improper. Your H1 should be visible and should support the title of the page. Yes it does... but I'm also quite confused. I thought the way I set up the page

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2004-07-06 Thread Lee Roberts
, Lee Roberts http://www.roserockdesign.com http://www.applepiecart.com From: Trusz, Andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 9:08 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [WSG]headers On the H1 issue, there are many people that think using

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2004-07-06 Thread Kim Kruse
Hi Drew, Thank you for your very detailed explanation. It was actually just what I needed because I'm almost running over with reading specs from W3 and numorus other sources. (It's now saved in my useful folder on my backup drive) Anyway your last paragraph did it for me because that just

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2004-07-06 Thread Mike Pepper
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Lee Roberts Sent: 06 July 2004 18:47 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [WSG]headers Let's discuss some issues for a moment and perhaps some light will shine upon some comments. Drew [qoute]The vague discussion of some people not approving of skipped levels does not say

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2004-07-06 Thread Trusz, Andrew
Let's discuss some issues for a moment and perhaps some light will shine upon some comments. Drew [qoute]The vague discussion of some people not approving of skipped levels does not say that a hierarchy of headings is required.[/quote] The vague discussion of some people refers to the

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2004-07-06 Thread Trusz, Andrew
You're most welcome. Good luck with it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kim Kruse Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 2:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WSG]headers Hi Drew, Thank you for your very detailed explanation. It was actually

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2004-07-06 Thread Lee Roberts
understood language. I hope this helps. Sincerely, Lee Roberts http://www.roserockdesign.com http://www.applepiecart.com -Original Message- From: Trusz, Andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 12:35 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [WSG]headers Let's