Re: [WSG] avoid Verdana - I cant get the whole point.

2005-10-06 Thread Mugur Padurean
Roger that, command. Over :)) Felix Miata wrote: I think if you digest http://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5869 and http://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6153 you'll find represented the behavior you've described. Linux simply does not have the same fonts as doze, unless you've imported

RE: [WSG] How do I vertical-align bottom

2005-10-06 Thread Nick Cowie
You can use absolute positioning as long as it is inside a relatively positioned block element. Add postion: relative; to the td holding the div ad and to the div ad Add position: absoloute; bottom: 0; left: 0; Nick -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Final Answer:...RE: [WSG] using the * within a selector

2005-10-06 Thread Drake, Ted C.
Hi All The answer lies not in the * but in using a different selector. Sebastien Guillon sent me a private answer: This: /*english */ a[hreflang=en]:after, a[hreflang=en-us]:after, a[hreflang=en-ca]:after, a[hreflang=en-gb]:after, a[hreflang=en-th]:after,

[WSG] Stop the Presses! Announcing the supercool search plugin!

2005-10-06 Thread Drake, Ted C.
Hi All As many of you may have seen, I created a search plugin for Alistapart.com that allows you to search their posts for information. That was just the tip of the iceberg. I really wanted to create something that would allow me to search all of my favorite coding resources without having to

RE: [WSG] How do I vertical-align bottom

2005-10-06 Thread Janelle Clemens
Thank you Nick. That worked like a charm :-) Janelle -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick Cowie Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 12:05 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: RE: [WSG] How do I vertical-align bottom You can use

Re: Final Answer:...RE: [WSG] using the * within a selector

2005-10-06 Thread standards
Hi Ted, I've wanted to use attribute selectors in my CSS rules, but have been concerned about browser support? Please advise... Kind regards, Mario Hi All The answer lies not in the * but in using a different selector. Sebastien Guillon sent me a private answer:

[WSG] Say no to CSS hacks with branching techniques

2005-10-06 Thread Thierry Koblentz
I would appreciate your feedback so I can improve this article: http://www.tjkdesign.com/articles/branching.asp Regards, Thierry | www.TJKDesign.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See

Re: [WSG] Stop the Presses! Announcing the supercool search plugin!

2005-10-06 Thread bit
hi all, maybe some suggestions for the ff-toolbar ... http://www.sitepoint.com/ http://digital-web.com/ http://cssplay.co.uk/ http://tanfa.co.uk/ http://www.stylegala.com/ http://kottke.org/ http://www.wpdfd.com/ nice greetings from vienna :) 2005/10/6, Drake, Ted C. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi

RE: [WSG] Stop the Presses! Announcing the supercool search plugi n!

2005-10-06 Thread Drake, Ted C.
I didnt have room for all of them but Ive added most of the sites below. Ted From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of bit Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 1:15 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Stop the Presses! Announcing the supercool

Re: [WSG] Stop the Presses! Announcing the supercool search plugi n!

2005-10-06 Thread Buddy Quaid
Your website will not pull up for me. Buddy Drake, Ted C. wrote: I didnt have room for all of them but Ive added most of the sites below. Ted From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of bit Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 1:15

RE: [WSG] Stop the Presses! Announcing the supercool search plugi n!

2005-10-06 Thread Drake, Ted C.
Hi buddy The link got mangled, try www.tdrake.net its the first post. Ted From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Buddy Quaid Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 1:52 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Stop the Presses! Announcing the

[WSG] CSIRO to help develop web standards

2005-10-06 Thread Ian Main
Interesting news this Friday morning. Does anyone have anymore info on this? http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200510/s1476554.htm The CSIRO has won a bid to play a central role in setting standards for the World Wide Web. The organisation will now host the Australian office of the World

Re: [WSG] Stop the Presses! Announcing the supercool search plugi n!

2005-10-06 Thread Buddy Quaid
Weird, i cant get to the site...i think it's blocking my ISP or something. I tried ping and nothing, i could trace and ping from an outside website but not from my machine. Buddy Drake, Ted C. wrote: Hi buddy The link got mangled, try www.tdrake.net its the first

Re: [WSG] Stop the Presses! Announcing the supercool search plugi n!

2005-10-06 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fake Google Toolbars Spreading Identity Theft Beware of guests bearing Google Toolbars. That's because a series of phishing probes are making the rounds that deliver a faked version. Install the real-looking software, and your credit cards and other personal information are captured, then

RE: [WSG] Stop the Presses! Announcing the supercool search plugi n!

2005-10-06 Thread Drake, Ted C.
? Im not sure what this is about. If anyone knows that Rollyo is bad, speak up, but Im certainly not pushing any fake googlebar scam. Im talking about the dropdown list that sits at the top right of your firefox browser. Dan Cederholm of Simplebits refers to the site as

Re: [WSG] Stop the Presses! Announcing the supercool search plugi n!

2005-10-06 Thread adam reitsma
Don't take it personally, Ted, I think Brian is putting forward a valid point - buyer / freeloader beware. Google toolbars can actually do a lot of damage, so even when installing one from a valid source, it pays to be aware of the risks. That said, i think that there's a vast difference

Re: [WSG] Stop the Presses! Announcing the supercool search plugi n!

2005-10-06 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
adam reitsma wrote: Google toolbars can actually do a lot of damage, so even when installing one from a valid source, it pays to be aware of the risks. That said, i think that there's a vast difference between installing a feature from a known source (yourself), and installing one you got a

RE: [WSG] Stop the Presses! Announcing the supercool search plugi n!

2005-10-06 Thread Drake, Ted C.
Hi Adam I didnt take it personally. To be honest, my first reaction was it might have been a bit of spam on its own. When I clicked on the Google bar alert link, my computer froze. Just so everyone is clear, this is not part of the Google toolbar. Its part of your Firefox browser. I

[WSG] Mixed navigation and search form

2005-10-06 Thread Ian Fenn
Hi, OK. I've been scratching my head all day. I need help. I'm trying to implement a new site design. The navigation - which I've uploaded a grab of at http://www.chopstixmedia.com/new-nav.jpg - consists of html links separated by a 1 pixel right-hand border... followed on the far right by a

Re: [WSG] Mixed navigation and search form

2005-10-06 Thread adam reitsma
Hi Ian, Any thoughts on how I can achieve this? If you could provide some pages of your previous attempts, that would make life easier for some of us, so we can see what you've tried so far, and what is not a desired outcome. here's a basic one i did in invalid html, built over Listamatic's

RE: [WSG] CSIRO to help develop web standards

2005-10-06 Thread Peter Williams
From: Ian Main Interesting news this Friday morning. Does anyone have anymore info on this? http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200510/s1476554.htm W3c has a news item about it: http://www.w3.org/ Ross Ackland profile:

Re: [WSG] Stop the Presses! Announcing the supercool search plugi n!

2005-10-06 Thread Nick Gleitzman
On 7 Oct 2005, at 9:15 AM, Drake, Ted C. wrote: it is going to make my life much easier Ted, speaking of which - HTML messages, untrimmed - up to 34KB, and counting. Do us a favour? Thx - N ___ Omnivision. Websight. http://www.omnivision.com.au/

Re: [WSG] Say no to CSS hacks with branching techniques

2005-10-06 Thread Andrew Krespanis
On 10/7/05, Thierry Koblentz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would appreciate your feedback so I can improve this article: http://www.tjkdesign.com/articles/branching.asp Sure, but I'm in a hurry so please excuse me if I'm a bit short with my reponse :) Congratulations! Now your file is ready for

RE: [WSG] Mixed navigation and search form

2005-10-06 Thread Ian Fenn
Adam wrote: If you could provide some pages of your previous attempts, that would make life easier for some of us, so we can see what you've tried so far, and what is not a desired outcome. Thanks for your help, Adam. I've made a number of attempts. What I'm looking for really is examples of a

[WSG] Say no to CSS hacks with branching techniques [the legible version]

2005-10-06 Thread Andrew Krespanis
I must apologize for the jumbled mess that was my previous response to this thread. I have been informed that my posts come through with no line breaks and encrypted nonsense at the end. This is caused by the CustomizeGoogle firefox extension; more specifically, the 'Secure Gmail' option. I have

Re: [WSG] Mixed navigation and search form

2005-10-06 Thread adam reitsma
The undesirable outcomes are: 1) When the user enlarges the font, the 1 pixel separator in the nav does not extend to fill the vertical height of the nav bar. 2) The text input field and submit button (an image) are not vertically aligned as per the graphic I provided. Perhaps this (very draft,

[WSG] Meta Keywords?

2005-10-06 Thread Martin Jopson
During one of Tantek's seminars at WE05, I assumed I was the last person in the world to learn that Meta Keywords were no longer used by search engines. However, I have just received a document from a client who has been advised by a search engine optimisation specialist [hitwise] to add

Re: [WSG] Meta Keywords?

2005-10-06 Thread Buddy Quaid
Well, I think the answer is a yes and no. Google I don't think reads or puts any weight on the meta tags at all. It does read a couple of meta tags like the 'revisit' meta tag and a couple of others but not description or keywords. Google goes more by link popularity and keyword density in

Re: [WSG] Meta Keywords?

2005-10-06 Thread John Allsopp
Martin, However, I have just received a document from a client who has been advised by a search engine optimisation specialist [hitwise] to add specific Meta Keywords to pages in their site. Get them to ask Hitwise to justify the recommendation, based on anything other than handwaving and

Re: [WSG] Meta Keywords?

2005-10-06 Thread Derek Featherstone
On 10/7/05, John Allsopp wrote: Get them to ask Hitwise to justify the recommendation, based on anything other than handwaving and superstition. I'd be interested in their response :-) I think it is safe to say that we would *all* be interested in their response, if they prepare one at all...

Re: [WSG] Meta Keywords?

2005-10-06 Thread Buddy Quaid
I second that. Buddy John Allsopp wrote: Martin, However, I have just received a document from a client who has been advised by a search engine optimisation specialist [hitwise] to add specific Meta Keywords to pages in their site. Get them to ask Hitwise to justify the recommendation,

RE: [WSG] Meta Keywords?

2005-10-06 Thread Andreas Boehmer [Addictive Media]
-Original Message- From: Martin Jopson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 7 October 2005 2:23 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] Meta Keywords? During one of Tantek's seminars at WE05, I assumed I was the last person in the world to learn that Meta Keywords

Re: [WSG] Meta Keywords?

2005-10-06 Thread Martin Jopson
So, from John Derek's responses, am I correct in thinking there's no use for the Meta Keywords or Meta Description tags anymore? Any web resources/ reference for this information? I'd like a bit more knowledge before questioning Hitwise. Thanks Martin

Re: [WSG] Meta Keywords?

2005-10-06 Thread James Bennett
On 10/7/05, Martin Jopson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, from John Derek's responses, am I correct in thinking there's no use for the Meta Keywords or Meta Description tags anymore? Any web resources/ reference for this information? I'd like a bit more knowledge before questioning Hitwise. In

RE: [WSG] Meta Keywords?

2005-10-06 Thread Focas, Grant
I'd also add that for semantics we should be using them - so what if search engines choose to use/not use/change they way they handle them. Grant -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Andreas Boehmer [Addictive Media] Sent: Friday, 7 October 2005

Re: [WSG] Meta Keywords?

2005-10-06 Thread Prabhath Sirisena
On 10/7/05, Martin Jopson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, from John Derek's responses, am I correct in thinking there's no use for the Meta Keywords or Meta Description tags anymore? Meta description is important! It's the one that Google uses when displaying results. You can do a quick summary

Re: [WSG] Meta Keywords?

2005-10-06 Thread Richard Czeiger
I'd have to agree with Andreas here. Wile for Ranking purposes they're not terribly important, at least Description is still sometimes used by Search Engines. Plus there's the added notion that Meta Tags *in and of themselves* are a good thing to put in a page (as any librarian will tell

RE: [WSG] Meta Keywords?

2005-10-06 Thread Andreas Boehmer [Addictive Media]
-Original Message- From: Richard Czeiger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 7 October 2005 3:09 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Meta Keywords? I'd have to agree with Andreas here. Wile for Ranking purposes they're not terribly important, at least

RE: [WSG] Meta Keywords?

2005-10-06 Thread Peter Williams
From: James Bennett In my experience, they still read the Description tag, but don't necessarily take it into account for ranking purposes; if the Description is present it will be included in the excerpt shown in the search result. That matches my experience too. -- Peter Williams

Re: [WSG] CSIRO to help develop web standards

2005-10-06 Thread Christian Montoya
One of the things with standards is, standards mean that you aremuch more competitive, not just on a national scale but a global scale ... If you want to sell your products and develop your productsthen standards is one of the great mechanisms through which you cando that and become competitive in

Re: [WSG] Meta Keywords?

2005-10-06 Thread Mark Harris
Derek Featherstone wrote: On 10/7/05, John Allsopp wrote: Get them to ask Hitwise to justify the recommendation, based on anything other than handwaving and superstition. I'd be interested in their response :-) I think it is safe to say that we would *all* be interested in their