Re: [WSG] intranet benchmarking quiz

2007-10-18 Thread plasmo
Hi Carl, I can understand your impression, however I am talking about an intranet. We are a law firm with a rather unusual non-hierarchical structure on our intranet. There is a consistent global navigation, and the left-hand navigation relates to each division's site. All the sites look the

Re: [WSG] Encoded mailto links

2007-10-18 Thread Or Golan
Screen readers run on top of normal browsers like IE of Firefox Didn't know that this is how screen readers work. Well, the best way to let visually impaired people see your email, is just do something the spambots can't get and the ones you want to gets the email will get it. Simply put it as an

Re: [WSG] Encoded mailto links

2007-10-18 Thread Anders Nawroth
Hi! Nikita The Spider The Spider skrev: You might be interested in an experiment I ran that compared a few techniques for protecting one's email address from harvesting bots. The short answer: entity references worked very well I think the time span of your study is to short. I have used the

Re: [WSG] intranet benchmarking quiz

2007-10-18 Thread Jixor - Stephen I
You're certainly listing a lot of common problems with intranet implementations. The larger the company the more disorganized it often tends to be. This is generally because people in various divisions take it upon themselves to set up their own software with little regard to what has already

Re: [WSG] intranet benchmarking quiz

2007-10-18 Thread Jixor - Stephen I
Hassan Schroeder wrote: plasmo wrote: To deal with this somewhat, I am taking a short quiz of people's experiences with their current intranets. Though I'm a self-employed consultant now, I've been involved with a number of intranets dating back to one of the first (1994) cited here:

Re: [WSG] introducing a prompt to download or open a pdf

2007-10-18 Thread willdonovan
Reply Chris, Macs do have a right click (right-click being a geenral Microsoft / PC term) Holding down control or the new mouse Apple releases with a right click option. William Chris Price wrote: I would use the file name (or description) as a hyperlink. Its good to have the file size so

Re: [WSG] javascript/DOM scripting in cross-browser-land

2007-10-18 Thread Ray Leventhal
RCH Library wrote: g'day Ray, if you find a solution, or hear back from the author with a fix, would you be kind enough to post it to the list? this is the easiest table sorter i've seen to date, and i've seen a few; i'd love to use it, but clearly have to wait for this bug to be sorted

Re: [WSG] Encoded mailto links

2007-10-18 Thread Nikita The Spider The Spider
On 10/18/07, Anders Nawroth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! Nikita The Spider The Spider skrev: You might be interested in an experiment I ran that compared a few techniques for protecting one's email address from harvesting bots. The short answer: entity references worked very well I

Re: [WSG] Encoded mailto links

2007-10-18 Thread Ray Leventhal
Nikita The Spider The Spider wrote: On 10/18/07, Anders Nawroth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! Nikita The Spider The Spider skrev: You might be interested in an experiment I ran that compared a few techniques for protecting one's email address from harvesting bots. The short answer: entity

Re: [WSG] javascript/DOM scripting in cross-browser-land [UPDATE]

2007-10-18 Thread Ray Leventhal
Peter Leing wrote: Not sure if this may be part of the problem or not, but when I'm on one of the information pages the url to go back to the listing is http://www.cprtools.net/store/headcombs.php/;. Using FireBug I removed the last / on the url and then when clicking on the link the table is

Re: [WSG] How to make DHML cover flash

2007-10-18 Thread nate hanna
On 10/17/07, Michael Kear [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The reason for using wmode was to fix the problem that existed before. All I wanted was to make sure the dhtml drop down menu came down on top of the flash movie not underneath it. Is that not the best way ? Mike, unfortunately claiming wmode

Re: [WSG] javascript/DOM scripting in cross-browser-land [UPDATE]

2007-10-18 Thread E Michael Brandt
Peter- Good eye! -- E. Michael Brandt www.divaHTML.com divaPOP : standards-compliant popup windows divaGPS : you-are-here menu highlighting divaFAQ : FAQ pages with pizazz www.valleywebdesigns.com/vwd_Vdw.asp JustSo PictureWindow JustSo PhotoAlbum, et alia --

Re: [WSG] Encoded mailto links

2007-10-18 Thread Anders Nawroth
Hi! Ray Leventhal skrev: As a matter of preference, I generally try to eliminate all mailto: links on any site I've been asked to work on. In place, I use a contact form, Me too :-) But then you get form-post spam after a while ... I have begun to add a random token as a hidden field to

Re: [WSG] Encoded mailto links

2007-10-18 Thread Nick Fitzsimons
On 18 Oct 2007, at 15:49, Anders Nawroth wrote: IMHO captchas are used too much, as they suck considerably! And they are also frowned upon by the W3C because of their inaccessibility, and the fact that they provide a false sense of security: http://www.w3.org/TR/turingtest/

[WSG] Just a quick test to see if it will let me post

2007-10-18 Thread Jason Pruim
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RE: [WSG] Encoded mailto links

2007-10-18 Thread Kepler Gelotte
I just got curious and went on to test that .htaccess trick in the real world. I'd say that I'm less than happy with the results. I tried some tests with similar behavior. I think I found a technique that gets around the problem. By initiating the mailto: redirect from an object embedded on

Re: [WSG] Encoded mailto links

2007-10-18 Thread Jason Friesen
I've followed the technique below; I find it much simpler to follow these techniques (and change the fieldnames occasionally), than try to get accurate spam filtering at the server level. We actually hired a company, spamstop.ca, to filter our results for our College. It's better, but

Re: [WSG] Encoded mailto links

2007-10-18 Thread Philippe Wittenbergh
On Oct 19, 2007, at 5:19 AM, Dejan Kozina wrote: Anybody (Mac Linux browsers...) wants to take a ride? The thing is up there at http://www.kozina.com/mailtest/ . Let us know of your results. running OS X 10.4.10 + Mail.app * WebKit latest build + Safari 3.0beta + Safari 2.04 : opens a

Re: [WSG] Encoded mailto links

2007-10-18 Thread Ray Leventhal
Patrick H. Lauke wrote: my approach is usually not to put the email address on there and instead provide a contact form, one major annoyance of contact forms for me: as a sender, i don't have a copy of the email in my email client's sent items folder. depending on the complexity of what i'm

Re: [WSG] Encoded mailto links

2007-10-18 Thread Mike at Green-Beast.com
Thanks for the heads up on that, Patrick. I'm going to contact him and ask he remove that. Domain registration records is another source I think. :-( Cheers. Mike - Original Message - From: Patrick H. Lauke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Thursday, October 18,

Re: [WSG] Encoded mailto links

2007-10-18 Thread Michael MD
Well, the best way to let visually impaired people see your email, is just do something the spambots can't get and the ones you want to gets the email will get it. Simply put it as an audio file. Record yourself reading your email, the spambots can't get it and the people using screen readers

Re: [WSG] intranet benchmarking quiz

2007-10-18 Thread Hassan Schroeder
Jixor - Stephen I wrote: From what I have heard wikis generally fall down as they will be initially maintained by whoever set them up in the first place and over time they will become outdated and generally are underused. From what I've seen, this is typical of wildcat intranet web sites,

Re: [WSG] Encoded mailto links

2007-10-18 Thread Nikita The Spider The Spider
On 10/18/07, Anders Nawroth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ray Leventhal skrev: As a matter of preference, I generally try to eliminate all mailto: links on any site I've been asked to work on. In place, I use a contact form, Me too :-) But then you get form-post spam after a while ... I

Re: [WSG] intranet benchmarking quiz

2007-10-18 Thread plasmo
Hi, I would like to thank everyone who participated in the quiz on and off the WSG. Now to share the results with you. 1. Does your company have a single overarching intranet, which is the first point that everyone goes to, with sub sections for various groups OR do you have a separate site

Re: [WSG] Encoded mailto links

2007-10-18 Thread Dejan Kozina
Hello all again. I just got curious and went on to test that .htaccess trick in the real world. I'd say that I'm less than happy with the results. With Thunderbird as the default mail app on Windows XP SP2, IE7, Firefox 2.0.0.7 and Seamonkey 1.1.4 did indeed open a new message window with the

Re: [WSG] Encoded mailto links

2007-10-18 Thread Ray Leventhal
Hi Anders, Ray Leventhal wrote: As a matter of preference, I generally try to eliminate all mailto: links on any site I've been asked to work on. In place, I use a contact form, Anders Nawroth wrote: Me too :-) But then you get form-post spam after a while ... To minimize form-post