Re: [WSG] Opera files antitrust against MS: standards one part

2007-12-17 Thread Breton Slivka
Microsoft is and has undoubtedly used the coercive power of their market dominance to interfere with OTHER businesses. What you are presenting here is a double standard. You are saying that governments (whose accountability is to the benefit of the public at large) should not be allowed to

Re: [WSG] Opera files antitrust against MS: standards one part

2007-12-17 Thread Rob Crowther
Michael Horowitz wrote: In the free market their tends to be high and low quality products It's not a free market, it's a market for lemons. Rob *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe:

[WSG] Lisa Kerrigan/StateDevPolicy/DSD is out of the office.

2007-12-17 Thread lisa . kerrigan
I will be out of the office starting 17/12/2007 and will not return until 20/12/2007. For content requests, contact Matt Myers (9651 9128) For other web-related issues contact Clarissa Macdonald (9651 9321) or Mick Doherty (9651 9426) Regards

Re: [WSG] Opera files antitrust ... ADMIN

2007-12-17 Thread russ - maxdesign
ADMIN: THREAD CLOSED This has long ceased to be a discussion on standards and has become a political debate. Feel free to move it the the WSG forum or off list if you wish to continue, but no longer on list. Please do not reply to or continue this thread. If you have an issue with the closing

[WSG] Styling Submit buttons with JavaScript by making them anchors

2007-12-17 Thread James Leslie
Hi, I'm trying to use some code so that submit buttons on a form are (using JavaScript if available) removed and replaced with anchor tags that then have event handlers added to them to submit a form if clicked. The reason for this is that I have some tabs I want to style in a similar way though

Re: [WSG] Opera files antitrust against MS: standards one part

2007-12-17 Thread Andrew Maben
On Dec 16, 2007, at 9:17 PM, Michael Horowitz wrote: Ask yourself where have you ever seen government controlled economies beat a free market one. This is not about government CONTROL, but government REGULATION. And no they are not the same thing. But this is (supposed to be) a web

Re: [WSG] Styling Submit buttons with JavaScript by making them anchors

2007-12-17 Thread Martin Heiden
James, I guess that you have to count down in your for-loop. You modify the DOM while iterating over the nodes, so the model changes while you are working at it. If you start with the last element, you don't mess up the references. for(var j=inputs.length-1; j=0; j--) { ... } regards

Re: [WSG] Styling Submit buttons with JavaScript by making them anchors

2007-12-17 Thread Matthew Pennell
On Dec 17, 2007 2:28 PM, James Leslie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to use some code so that submit buttons on a form are (using JavaScript if available) removed and replaced with anchor tags that then have event handlers added to them to submit a form if clicked. The reason for this

RE: [WSG] Styling Submit buttons with JavaScript by making them anchors FIXED

2007-12-17 Thread James Leslie
I guess that you have to count down in your for-loop. You modify the DOM while iterating over the nodes, so the model changes while you are working at it. If you start with the last element, you don't mess up the references. for(var j=inputs.length-1; j=0; j--) { ... }

Re: [WSG] Styling Submit buttons with JavaScript by making them anchors

2007-12-17 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
Quoting Matthew Pennell [EMAIL PROTECTED]: This might be a stupid question, but why can't you just style your form submit buttons to look like links using CSS? button { border: 0; background: none; text-decoration: underline; color: #006; cursor: pointer; } I was going to suggest that as

RE: [WSG] Opera files antitrust against MS: standards one part

2007-12-17 Thread michael.brockington
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Horowitz Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 2:18 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Opera files antitrust against MS: standards one part Ask yourself where have you ever seen

[WSG] BBC in Beta

2007-12-17 Thread Paul McCann
Heads up, the BBC has a new site in Beta. http://www.bbc.co.uk/home/beta Thoughts/praise/comments :) *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe:

[WSG] File comparison tool for Dreamweaver CS3

2007-12-17 Thread Simon Cockayne
Hi there, What file comparison tool would you recommend for Dreamweaver CS3? http://livedocs.adobe.com/en_US/Dreamweaver/9.0/help.html?content=WSc78c5058ca073340dcda9110b1f693f21-7edc.htmlstates: Before you start, you must install a third-party file comparison tool on your system. For more

Re: [WSG] File comparison tool for Dreamweaver CS3

2007-12-17 Thread Paul McCann
I use beyond compare, but im not sure it works within dreamweaver. When I used dreamweaver I used to have Beyond compare open in another window and when I made changes in one and saved them the other programme noticed this and prompted me if I wanted to load the changes or not. Its a nice

RE: [WSG] File comparison tool for Dreamweaver CS3

2007-12-17 Thread Patrick Lauke
Assuming you mean on Windows, I've used WinDiff in the past and was reasonably happy with it (though purely to get an at a glance comparison, not to actually do any further processing of compared files - it doesn't seem to like UTF-8, for a start...) P Patrick

Re: [WSG] File comparison tool for Dreamweaver CS3

2007-12-17 Thread Frederick Matzen
I've used this one with great success: Beyond Compare - http://www.scootersoftware.com/ On Dec 17, 2007 8:38 AM, Simon Cockayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there, What file comparison tool would you recommend for Dreamweaver CS3?

RE: [WSG] File comparison tool for Dreamweaver CS3

2007-12-17 Thread michael.brockington
Have you looked at UltraCompare, a close cousin of the excellent UltraEdit ? Mike *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL

Re: [WSG] File comparison tool for Dreamweaver CS3

2007-12-17 Thread yacosta
I've used ViseVersa Pro (http://www.tgrmn.com/) with out a problem. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [WSG] File comparison tool for Dreamweaver CS3

2007-12-17 Thread Frederick Matzen
That's true. It does not work within Dreamweaver. I'm not sure if I've ever seen anything that does for sure. On Dec 17, 2007 9:00 AM, Paul McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use beyond compare, but im not sure it works within dreamweaver. When I used dreamweaver I used to have Beyond compare

Re: [WSG] BBC in Beta

2007-12-17 Thread Felix Miata
On 2007/12/17 15:30 (GMT) Paul McCann apparently typed: Heads up, the BBC has a new site in Beta. http://www.bbc.co.uk/home/beta Thoughts/praise/comments :) I guess they discovered 800x600 is an anachronism, so made it wider. Still objects are sized in px, so with fonts forced big enough to

Re: [WSG] File comparison tool for Dreamweaver CS3

2007-12-17 Thread Greg Morphis
I second or third beyond compare.. we use it, great little tool, integrates into the right click menu.. pretty neat On Dec 17, 2007 10:04 AM, Frederick Matzen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've used this one with great success: Beyond Compare - http://www.scootersoftware.com/ On Dec 17, 2007

Re: [WSG] File comparison tool for Dreamweaver CS3

2007-12-17 Thread David Hucklesby
On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 15:38:07 +, Simon Cockayne wrote: Hi there, What file comparison tool would you recommend for Dreamweaver CS3? Odd. I'm surprised DW does *not* have a file compare capability. I have used text editors for decades, but have not used DW much. All text editors I ever used

RE: [WSG] Styling Submit buttons with JavaScript by making them anchors

2007-12-17 Thread James Leslie
This might be a stupid question, but why can't you just style your form submit buttons to look like links using CSS? - Primarily because some browsers don't support styling of inputs very well, but

Re: [WSG] File comparison tool for Dreamweaver CS3

2007-12-17 Thread micky
Sorry if this has been mentioned already... But BBedit is really good for file comparison (unfortunately, Mac Only). http://www.barebones.com/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe:

Re: [WSG] BBC in Beta

2007-12-17 Thread Mike Brown
Felix Miata wrote: On 2007/12/17 15:30 (GMT) Paul McCann apparently typed: Heads up, the BBC has a new site in Beta. http://www.bbc.co.uk/home/beta Thoughts/praise/comments :) snip usual font stuff /snip Overall, better, but, worse than good. Oh come on, let's not be so blinkered

Re: [WSG] File comparison tool for Dreamweaver CS3

2007-12-17 Thread Avi Miller
Hi, On Dec 18, 2007 3:44 AM, Frederick Matzen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's true. It does not work within Dreamweaver. I'm not sure if I've ever seen anything that does for sure. I'm using Beyond Compare quite happily with Dreamweaver CS3. Works fine for me (selecting two local documents and

Re: [WSG] BBC in Beta

2007-12-17 Thread John Faulds
Oh come on, let's not be so blinkered that we can't appreciate really good work in most areas! Felix isn't the only one who has a number of issues with the new design and for entirely different reasons - http://www.markboulton.co.uk/journal/comments/bbc_homepage_redesign/ I'd have to

Re: [WSG] BBC in Beta

2007-12-17 Thread Gunlaug Sørtun
Mike Brown wrote: http://www.bbc.co.uk/home/beta Thoughts/praise/comments :) Overall, better, but, worse than good. Oh come on, let's not be so blinkered that we can't appreciate really good work in most areas! Since the example comes out like this...

Re: [WSG] BBC in Beta

2007-12-17 Thread Karl Lurman
Positives: - Theres some clever use of Javascript in there that enables some interesting user interface elements. - In case you missed it, you can drag and drop parts of the page, similar to Yahoo and Googles efforts - although they could have gone some way to making it a bit more obvious. -