Re: [WSG] My Favorite XHTML/CSS/JavaScript/PHP Editor - NO WYSIWYG

2004-09-19 Thread Chris Stratford
I use TSWARE Its AWESOME! www.tsware.net built in PHP/CSS/XHTML/JAVASCRIPT syntax hightligher. it can tell when a PHP doc has PHP and HTML so they are higlighted with their own type. also HTML with embedded Javascript - it does that too. built in FTP. tabbed windows. project manager - with todo

CLOSED Re: [WSG] My Favorite XHTML/CSS/JavaScript/PHP Editor - NO WYSIWYG

2004-09-19 Thread James Ellis
Hi all This has been discussed ad nauseam previously on the list. Their is a resource category on the site created just for this topic so that all members can have quick access to available editors and add new ones. http://webstandardsgroup.org/resources/#cat30 Please feel free to log in at the

[WSG] Longdesc?

2004-09-19 Thread Joshua Street
I noticed this attribute as part of an img element in Mark Stanton's presentation at the Sydney meeting last Thursday... he didn't make reference to it, though, and I've been struggling to see the application of it ever since. Does longdesc really have to comprise a link to an external page, or

Re: [WSG] Longdesc?

2004-09-19 Thread Joshua Street
Ahh, I didn't even think about the possibility of using anchors! Thanks for the informative response. :) Josh On Sun, 2004-09-19 at 21:29, Patrick H. Lauke wrote: Joshua Street wrote: Does longdesc really have to comprise a link to an external page, or can it simply be an extended version

Re: [WSG] IE border dotted

2004-09-19 Thread Justin French
On 20/09/2004, at 2:02 AM, Cameron Muir wrote: Does IE support 'border-style: dotted' ? In my IE it renders as dashed. Mozilla/Firefox are fine, of course. I've certainly never seen it work -- definitely not in a standards-compliant way. However, before you start bashing IE, consider this

Re: [WSG] IE border dotted

2004-09-19 Thread Cameron Muir
Thanks Justin. I really like dotted - oh well. regards, cameron. Justin French wrote: On 20/09/2004, at 2:02 AM, Cameron Muir wrote: Does IE support 'border-style: dotted' ? In my IE it renders as dashed. Mozilla/Firefox are fine, of course. I've certainly never seen it work -- definitely not in

[WSG] css validation error

2004-09-19 Thread Cameron Muir
Hello, I can't work out why this is producing an error. I'm sure there must be a simple solution that I've missed. body { font: small Trebuchet MS, sans-serif; color: #66; } The error: URI : http://design.quagma.net/themes/quagma/style.css * Line: 0 Context : sans-serif

Re: [WSG] css validation error

2004-09-19 Thread John Oxton
Hi Cameron, You have this .paymate { position: relative: top: 20px; right: 10px; } the position:relative needs a semi colon and you should be on your way Regards, John, Cameron Muir wrote: Hello, I can't work out why this is producing an error. I'm sure there must be a

Re: [WSG] Image work around

2004-09-19 Thread Nancy Johnson
Hmmm, I'm sorry I must have inadverdently left out some text. At www.guildinstitute.org, I have placed an image on the left and text on the right. Currently the text and image are in a 2-column table to keep each in a separate column. How can I achieve the same thing using CSS? The style

Re: [WSG] IE border dotted

2004-09-19 Thread Andrew Krespanis
IE 6 supports the dotted style - so long as the border width is above 2px. ...which totally sucks, because 1px dotted is nice ;) http://leftjustified.net/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/

Re: [WSG] Testing render speed

2004-09-19 Thread Andrew Krespanis
** EDIT from above: It would seem that as of August 11th they have altered it to include images from CSS... This is one of those times I'm really glad I'm wrong :o As for home testing... Could you include some form of timestamp using php and then a javascvript onload function to work out the time

Re: [WSG] Testing render speed

2004-09-19 Thread Joshua Street
Logically, yes, but you'd need to be hosting on loopback, otherwise the timestamps would most probably be out of sync (not a problem for most). The initial question specified from initial request through to completion, which means that we've got to take into account transport time, for the leaner

[WSG] Footer stuff

2004-09-19 Thread Amit Karmakar
Apologies if this has been discussed before. What is better in terms of semantics and accessibility? div id=footer pstuff | more stuffbr / stuff too | more stuff again/p /div or div id=footer ullistuff/li | limore stuff/li listuff too/li | limore stuff again/li/ul /div Obviously the first one

RE: [WSG] Footer stuff

2004-09-19 Thread Hill, Tim
Adding | between links in footer is good practice for screenreaders because it breaks up the reading of the links. But in the second example, you already do this with the list items, so in terms of accessibility I doubt you would need to add | to them. Also those | are outside the li/li so I'm not

Re: [WSG] Footer stuff

2004-09-19 Thread adam reitsma
Hi Amit, Ben Bishop's presentation at the sydney WSG meeting outlined that he used a list for his footer: http://www.nzsteel.co.nz/nz/ He also used css for the divider, instead of pipes: #footermenu li a { height:1em; padding:0 0.75em; border-left:1px solid #999;

Re: [WSG] Footer stuff

2004-09-19 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
The semantics obviously depend on what stuff | more stuff and stuff too | more stuff again actually are... Patrick Amit Karmakar wrote: Apologies if this has been discussed before. What is better in terms of semantics and accessibility? div id=footer pstuff | more stuffbr / stuff too | more

Re: [WSG] Footer stuff

2004-09-19 Thread Joshua Street
If you were going to use the second example, I'd recommend using border:whatever; instead of pipe characters... My $AU0.03 On Mon, 2004-09-20 at 11:22, Amit Karmakar wrote: Apologies if this has been discussed before. What is better in terms of semantics and accessibility? div id=footer

Re: [WSG] Footer stuff

2004-09-19 Thread Patrick H. Lauke
adam reitsma wrote: div id=footer ullistuff/li | limore stuff/li/ul ullistuff too/li | limore stuff again/li/ul /div Drop those | in between list items, as it's not valid markup (probably just an oversight, but it's best to clarify nonetheless) Patrick

Re: [WSG] Footer stuff

2004-09-19 Thread James Ellis
Amit It's a list of information for the user. You can use floats to turn on/off horizontal/vertical display of the list. You'll have much more control over the list display than with a br Also, you should move the pipes within an li tag or use the li or a border to act as the delimiter so a

Re: [WSG] css validation error

2004-09-19 Thread Cameron Muir
Thanks for pointing that out John - serves me right for not cleaning out disused styles. However, I'm still getting the same error. John Oxton wrote: Hi Cameron, You have this .paymate { position: relative: top: 20px; right: 10px; } the position:relative needs a semi colon and you

Re: [WSG] Footer stuff

2004-09-19 Thread Amit Karmakar
Thanks All, I think lists is the way to go in this case, a paragraph is more appropriate(some would say only ever appropriate) where it is truly a paragraph of text/content Well, time to rework my own footers :) On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 01:50:21 +, James Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Amit

RE: [WSG] New website launch

2004-09-19 Thread Murphey, Kay
Hi Ian, I had a similar problem with my site - I had some tables that refused to display in the proper(desired) placement - they insisted on appearing below the absolutely positioned element - way down the page. I created a floating div and stuck them in that - seems to work, but I'm not sure

RE: [WSG] Testing render speed

2004-09-19 Thread Greer, Ben
Try http://www.xat.com/wo/index.html We've been using it and find it very helpful. I think you could set it to unlimited speed to get just render times... I want to test the render speed (from initial request through to completion, and just the render once all files are cached) of some