RE: [WSG] Styling Text...

2004-07-05 Thread John . Cherry
Speaking of plain text posts to this mailing list, I'm receiving an increasing number of posts which contain only a signature block. * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See

Re: [WSG] Styling Text... (Andy Budd Accessibility Quiz)

2004-07-05 Thread Andy Budd
Geoff Deering wrote: That is a very very poor quiz, and shows the author does not understand WCAG1 very well at all.  Actually, it shows more that he does not know how to form the proper questions. The quality of the questions and quiz aside, why do you think the author doesn't understand

RE: [WSG] Styling Text... (Andy Budd Accessibility Quiz)

2004-07-05 Thread Lee Roberts
Andy, You might want to run those by me since I help develop the Web Content Accessibility Guidelines. Lee Roberts -Original Message- From: Andy Budd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 05, 2004 3:50 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WSG] Styling Text... (Andy Budd

RE: [WSG] Styling Text... (Andy Budd Accessibility Quiz)

2004-07-05 Thread Jamie Mason
Title: RE: [WSG] Styling Text... (Andy Budd Accessibility Quiz) If you don't have anything constructive to say, don't say anything at all (please) -Original Message- From: Andy Budd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 05, 2004 3:50 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re

CLOSED Re: [WSG] Styling Text... (Andy Budd Accessibility Quiz)

2004-07-05 Thread James Ellis
Hi all WCAG is on topic -please discuss all you want, but address the topic, not the person. The list is here to provide a constructive discussion on web standards and accessibility. If you want to be destructive or have a beef with the author, don't do it here as your subscription will be

Re: [WSG] Styling Text...

2004-07-04 Thread Rick Faaberg
On 7/3/04 11:38 PM Geoff Deering [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: It is better practice to stop using such elements, especially when there are other elements that serve the same purpose, but are more semantically correct and accessible. Would someone please post a URL to a rousing, thorough,

Re: [WSG] Styling Text...

2004-07-04 Thread Mordechai Peller
Geoff Deering wrote: Yes, correct for XHTML1.x, but I can't see it in your reference to http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml2/mod-inline-text.html#sec_9.12. All the font style elements have been removed in XHTML2. The reference was in regards to sub and sup which currently are valid XHTML2 without any

RE: [WSG] Styling Text...

2004-07-04 Thread Geoff Deering
-Original Message- From: Mordechai Peller Geoff Deering wrote: It is better practice to stop using such elements, especially when there are other elements that serve the same purpose, but are more semantically correct and accessible I agree with the exception of sub and sup

RE: [WSG] Styling Text... (Sematics)

2004-07-04 Thread Geoff Deering
-Original Message- From: Rick Faaberg On 7/3/04 11:38 PM Geoff Deering [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: It is better practice to stop using such elements, especially when there are other elements that serve the same purpose, but are more semantically correct and accessible.

Re: [WSG] Styling Text...

2004-07-04 Thread Mordechai Peller
Geoff Deering wrote: They are not part of the "Font Style Elements", they are part of the "Special Inline Elements". But this shows how even the W3C specs can be misleading, cause FONT is part of the Special Inline Elements", yet B, I, U etc are "Font Style Elements". I've done some

RE: [WSG] Styling Text...

2004-07-04 Thread Geoff Deering
-Original Message-From: Mordechai Peller Geoff Deering wrote: They are not part of the "Font Style Elements", they are part of the "Special Inline Elements". But this shows how even the W3C specs can be misleading, cause FONT is part of the Special Inline Elements", yet B, I, U

Re: [WSG] Styling Text...

2004-07-04 Thread Mordechai Peller
Geoff Deering wrote: I have no disagreement with this at all. What I am saying is if you develop a large site, that is very well designed and engineered, then, when XHTML2 comes out there are found to be HUGE benefits for using it (this is just hypothetical), then what is the cost

RE: [WSG] Styling Text...

2004-07-04 Thread Geoff Deering
-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Mordechai PellerSent: Monday, 5 July 2004 9:54 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [WSG] Styling Text...Geoff Deering wrote: I have no disagreement with this at all. What I am

RE: [WSG] Styling Text... (Andy Budd Accessibility Quiz)

2004-07-04 Thread Geoff Deering
Re http://www.andybudd.com/archives/2004/07/quick_accessibility_quiz_now_with_prizes/index.php Q1. There is no correct answer offered by Andy. For starters, to comply with WAI-A youneed tocomply with all WCAG1 Priority 1 Checkpoints, for WAI-AA youneed tocomply with all WCAG P1 and 2

RE: [WSG] Styling Text...

2004-07-04 Thread Lee Roberts
there is a note doesn't mean anything. Lee Roberts From: Mordechai Peller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2004 5:54 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [WSG] Styling Text... Geoff Deering wrote: I have no disagreement with this at all. What I am saying is if you

Re: [WSG] Styling Text...

2004-07-03 Thread Kristof Neirynck
Chris Stratford wrote: Since BUI etc... are all outlawed and now depreciated... How do you style your inner P text? [snip] Actualy, they haven't changed since html 4. Read all about it here: http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/index/elements.html A small summary of the important inline elements: Semantic

RE: [WSG] Styling Text...

2004-07-03 Thread Geoff Deering
-Original Message- From: Rick Faaberg On 7/2/04 7:31 PM Chris Stratford [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: I am just writing because I have been wondering if there is a better way of styling text. Since BUI etc... are all outlawed and now depreciated... How do you style your

Re: [WSG] Styling Text...

2004-07-03 Thread Mordechai Peller
Geoff Deering wrote: It depends which DTD you are referencing as to whether they are deprecated or not, but U is definitely deprecated in everything from HTML4 onwards. And B and I are deprecated for future compatibility because they belong in "Font Style Elements", which are all

[WSG] Styling Text...

2004-07-02 Thread Chris Stratford
Hey WSG, I am just writing because I have been wondering if there is a better way of styling text. Since BUI etc... are all outlawed and now depreciated... How do you style your inner P text? At the moment, when I have a paragraph and I want to bold a word, i use: span class="bold" And in

RE: [WSG] Styling Text...

2004-07-02 Thread Bert Doorn
G'day Use strong instead of b Use em instead of i Don't underline text - it will look like a link and confuse people So a bold italic word which is also underlined is just: span class=bold italic underlineword/span Try strongemWord/em/strong Or if you use the combination a lot, set up the

Re: [WSG] Styling Text...

2004-07-02 Thread Natalie Buxton
Message - From: Chris Stratford [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 03 Jul 2004 12:31:37 +1000 Subject: [WSG] Styling Text... To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hey WSG, I am just writing because I have been wondering if there is a better way of styling text. Since BUI etc... are all outlawed and now depreciated

Re: [WSG] Styling Text...

2004-07-02 Thread Rick Faaberg
On 7/2/04 7:31 PM Chris Stratford [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent this out: I am just writing because I have been wondering if there is a better way of styling text. Since BUI etc... are all outlawed and now depreciated... How do you style your inner P text? And here I thought someone just the other