Re: [WSG] Meta Keywords?

2005-10-13 Thread Martin Jopson
The response: The purpose of the inclusion of Meta Keywords is to cater for older search engines that are still using meta tags. The Meta Keywords tag allows [ClientName] to define which search terms are important to their web page. Yahoo actually uses the meta keywords tag to see if a site

ADMIN - THREAD CLOSED Re: [WSG] Meta Keywords?

2005-10-13 Thread Lea de Groot
On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 10:51:49 +1000 (EST), Martin Jopson wrote: The response: Thank you for finalising the info - we were all hanging out to hear what nonsense they would claim :) The thread is still closed, guys! Offlist, if you want to discuss it! warmly, Lea WSG Core Group

Re: [WSG] Meta Keywords?

2005-10-09 Thread Terrence Wood
If you mean for search engines, then yes, I think you are correct. However, there may be other valid reasons for using metadata. Does anyone remember when Anil Dash (from Six Apart) beat out 2 SEO companies and won a SEO competition in 2004? http://www.dashes.com/anil/2004/07/27/optimizing_sear

Re: [WSG] Meta Keywords?

2005-10-08 Thread Kay Smoljak
Hi Martin, On 10/7/05, Martin Jopson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could anyone please clarify the situation for Meta Keywords and also Meta Description. If possible also a web resource that states clearly these issues. Others have already given a range of good responses. To add to the discussion

Re: [WSG] Meta Keywords?

2005-10-08 Thread Lea de Groot
On Sat, 8 Oct 2005 17:30:16 +0800, Kay Smoljak wrote: Others have already given a range of good responses. To add to the discussion I believe that the search engine Sensis uses the meta keywords tag, although I cannot remember where I picked up that idea. Yep, it seems they do - googling shows

ADMIN - thread closed Re: [WSG] Meta Keywords?

2005-10-08 Thread Lea de Groot
Well, I just had it pointed out to me (You're an evil man, Bert ;)) that we really haven't managed to bring this one on-topic, so I think the thread should be closed. Lea ~ oops -- WSG Core member On Sat, 8 Oct 2005 20:52:35 +1000, Lea de Groot wrote: On Sat, 8 Oct 2005 17:30:16 +0800, Kay

Re: [WSG] Meta Keywords?

2005-10-08 Thread Chris Dimmock
Just wanted to clarify this area with some references. Meta keywords - no - no search engine publically acknowdges that they refer to them. Meta descriptions - yes - see below - but DMoz is often a factor as well Meta robots - yes - see below 1. you can use robots.txt OR meta robots: [quote]Use

Re: [WSG] Meta Keywords?

2005-10-07 Thread Lance Willett
Plus there's the added notion that Meta Tags *in and of themselves* are a good thing to put in a page (as any librarian will tell you). Plus there's no way of knowing what future technologies can put these to good use. I agree with Richard, and this is what the Dublin Core Meta Data is all

Re: [WSG] Meta Keywords?

2005-10-06 Thread Buddy Quaid
Well, I think the answer is a yes and no. Google I don't think reads or puts any weight on the meta tags at all. It does read a couple of meta tags like the 'revisit' meta tag and a couple of others but not description or keywords. Google goes more by link popularity and keyword density in

Re: [WSG] Meta Keywords?

2005-10-06 Thread John Allsopp
Martin, However, I have just received a document from a client who has been advised by a search engine optimisation specialist [hitwise] to add specific Meta Keywords to pages in their site. Get them to ask Hitwise to justify the recommendation, based on anything other than handwaving and

Re: [WSG] Meta Keywords?

2005-10-06 Thread Derek Featherstone
On 10/7/05, John Allsopp wrote: Get them to ask Hitwise to justify the recommendation, based on anything other than handwaving and superstition. I'd be interested in their response :-) I think it is safe to say that we would *all* be interested in their response, if they prepare one at all...

Re: [WSG] Meta Keywords?

2005-10-06 Thread Buddy Quaid
I second that. Buddy John Allsopp wrote: Martin, However, I have just received a document from a client who has been advised by a search engine optimisation specialist [hitwise] to add specific Meta Keywords to pages in their site. Get them to ask Hitwise to justify the recommendation,

RE: [WSG] Meta Keywords?

2005-10-06 Thread Andreas Boehmer [Addictive Media]
-Original Message- From: Martin Jopson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 7 October 2005 2:23 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] Meta Keywords? During one of Tantek's seminars at WE05, I assumed I was the last person in the world to learn that Meta Keywords

Re: [WSG] Meta Keywords?

2005-10-06 Thread Martin Jopson
So, from John Derek's responses, am I correct in thinking there's no use for the Meta Keywords or Meta Description tags anymore? Any web resources/ reference for this information? I'd like a bit more knowledge before questioning Hitwise. Thanks Martin

Re: [WSG] Meta Keywords?

2005-10-06 Thread James Bennett
On 10/7/05, Martin Jopson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, from John Derek's responses, am I correct in thinking there's no use for the Meta Keywords or Meta Description tags anymore? Any web resources/ reference for this information? I'd like a bit more knowledge before questioning Hitwise. In

RE: [WSG] Meta Keywords?

2005-10-06 Thread Focas, Grant
2:59 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: RE: [WSG] Meta Keywords? I would advise anybody against taking Meta Tags (description and keywords) out of their sites. Although major search engines have publicly declared that they put less emphasis on the tags, there are still search engines around

Re: [WSG] Meta Keywords?

2005-10-06 Thread Prabhath Sirisena
On 10/7/05, Martin Jopson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, from John Derek's responses, am I correct in thinking there's no use for the Meta Keywords or Meta Description tags anymore? Meta description is important! It's the one that Google uses when displaying results. You can do a quick summary

Re: [WSG] Meta Keywords?

2005-10-06 Thread Richard Czeiger
[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 2:57 PM Subject: Re: [WSG] Meta Keywords? So, from John Derek's responses, am I correct in thinking there's no use for the Meta Keywords or Meta Description tags anymore? Any web resources/ reference

RE: [WSG] Meta Keywords?

2005-10-06 Thread Andreas Boehmer [Addictive Media]
-Original Message- From: Richard Czeiger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 7 October 2005 3:09 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Meta Keywords? I'd have to agree with Andreas here. Wile for Ranking purposes they're not terribly important, at least

RE: [WSG] Meta Keywords?

2005-10-06 Thread Peter Williams
From: James Bennett In my experience, they still read the Description tag, but don't necessarily take it into account for ranking purposes; if the Description is present it will be included in the excerpt shown in the search result. That matches my experience too. -- Peter Williams

Re: [WSG] Meta Keywords?

2005-10-06 Thread Mark Harris
Derek Featherstone wrote: On 10/7/05, John Allsopp wrote: Get them to ask Hitwise to justify the recommendation, based on anything other than handwaving and superstition. I'd be interested in their response :-) I think it is safe to say that we would *all* be interested in their