CVS Update: xc (branch: trunk)

2003-09-02 Thread Marc Aurele La France
CVSROOT:/home/x-cvs Module name:xc Changes by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/09/02 10:13:41 Log message: Typo Modified files: xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/common/: xf86Init.c Revision ChangesPath 3.205 +2 -2

CVS Update: xc (branch: trunk)

2003-09-02 Thread Marc Aurele La France
CVSROOT:/home/x-cvs Module name:xc Changes by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/09/02 11:19:17 Log message: 413. Add missing REQUEST_SIZE_MATCH() to xSyncSetCounter protocol request (noticed by Ruben Nunez Francisco). Modified files: xc/programs/Xserver/Xext/:

CVS Update: xc (branch: trunk)

2003-09-02 Thread Thomas Winischhofer
CVSROOT:/home/x-cvs Module name:xc Changes by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/09/02 11:25:07 Log message: SiS driver update Modified files: xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/: CHANGELOG Revision ChangesPath 3.2838+5 -1

CVS Update: xc (branch: trunk)

2003-09-02 Thread Mark Vojkovich
CVSROOT:/home/x-cvs Module name:xc Changes by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/09/02 18:10:28 Log message: Fix a minor GeForceFX + flatpanel + video overlay corruption issue. Modified files: xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/drivers/nv/: nv_dac.c Revision

Intellimouse protocol 4th byte limits and AMI 150T OpticalWebScroll Mouse

2003-09-02 Thread Matthew Bell
Hi, I have been reading about the Intellimouse protocol and the usage of the 4th byte in the standard packet. Some documentation claims that the low order nibble is used as magnitude and the high order nibble as sign (F for negative, 0 for positive), encoded in 2's complement; This would indicate

synaptics lockups (was Re: radeon lockups ...)

2003-09-02 Thread Warren Turkal
Warren Turkal wrote: Michel Dänzer wrote: In that case it can hardly be an X problem. Sounds rather like the kernel (anything interesting in its output? Does the same thing happen with 2.4 kernels?) or hardware. I am testing 4.2.1 at this point to see if I come up with the same issues as

howto beep in dix/main.c or some other DDX function?

2003-09-02 Thread Tao, Qian (? IES)
Title: howto beep in dix/main.c or some other DDX function? I want to write a beep func in above.

Re: synaptics lockups (was Re: radeon lockups ...)

2003-09-02 Thread Mike A. Harris
On Mon, 1 Sep 2003, Warren Turkal wrote: In that case it can hardly be an X problem. Sounds rather like the kernel (anything interesting in its output? Does the same thing happen with 2.4 kernels?) or hardware. I am testing 4.2.1 at this point to see if I come up with the same issues as

Re: synaptics lockups (was Re: radeon lockups ...)

2003-09-02 Thread Daniel Stone
On Tue, Sep 02, 2003 at 02:04:00AM -0400, Mike A. Harris wrote: It's GPL licensed unfortunately. Only MIT licensed code is accepted into XFree86, so this driver will never be included. That means once kernel 2.6 is standard, the majority of laptop users with synaptics touchpads will have

Re: synaptics lockups (was Re: radeon lockups ...)

2003-09-02 Thread Mike A. Harris
On Tue, 2 Sep 2003, Daniel Stone wrote: Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2003 20:30:58 +1000 From: Daniel Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mike A. Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol=application/pgp-signature; boundary=qjNfmADvan18RZcF

Re: synaptics lockups (was Re: radeon lockups ...)

2003-09-02 Thread Mike A. Harris
On Tue, 2 Sep 2003, Daniel Stone wrote: The only other option would be for someone to write a brand new driver for synaptics and license it as MIT, without looking at the GPL driver's source code. It's possible to do a clean room implementation, but I'm not sure if anyone would really

Re: synaptics lockups (was Re: radeon lockups ...)

2003-09-02 Thread Daniel Stone
On Tue, Sep 02, 2003 at 07:19:38AM -0400, Mike A. Harris wrote: On Tue, 2 Sep 2003, Daniel Stone wrote: On Tue, Sep 02, 2003 at 02:04:00AM -0400, Mike A. Harris wrote: It's GPL licensed unfortunately. Only MIT licensed code is accepted into XFree86, so this driver will never be included.

Re: XInput: The device type in XListInputDevices comes up again...

2003-09-02 Thread Bryan W. Headley
Egbert Eich wrote: As you said a HID device is more or less unidirectional. Therefore you won't be able to detect from the device interface that something is wrong. The HID interface itself would have to provide QoS. Anyway QoS would not be part of XI but would be implemented in the HW messaging

Re: XInput: The device type in XListInputDevices comes up again...

2003-09-02 Thread Bryan W. Headley
Egbert Eich wrote: Bryan W. Headley writes: Maybe not everything... Some things only make sense at server startup, but yes, I want to make things configurable on the fly - but using another extension, not XI. Correct. My outlook is a more generic client -- driver API

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Re: XDarwin build error

2003-09-02 Thread Torrey Lyons
Matthieu Herrb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, when building the latest XFree86 on Mac OS 10.2.4, I get link errors. A first one is easily fixed by the attached patch, but XDarwinApp also fails to link with the following error for which I can't find the missing code... Yes, I have this

Re: XInput: The device type in XListInputDevices comes up again...

2003-09-02 Thread Egbert Eich
Bryan W. Headley writes: Egbert Eich wrote: Your definition and mine are very similar. I would continue the definition to say that even intrinsic server functions, like loading a driver into memory, can be initiated by a client. Why? Because I would want to keep the actual server

Re: XInput: The device type in XListInputDevices comes up again...

2003-09-02 Thread Egbert Eich
Bryan W. Headley writes: Egbert Eich wrote: As you said a HID device is more or less unidirectional. Therefore you won't be able to detect from the device interface that something is wrong. The HID interface itself would have to provide QoS. Anyway QoS would not be part of XI

Re: Help on creating a Window Manager

2003-09-02 Thread Mark Lehrer
On Tue, 2 Sep 2003 13:53:07 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Heather Stern) wrote: Those would include aewm (which I think had the same intention - a pure ICCCM rendition), ratpoison (avoiding fat libraries and I missed the original message so perhaps this was already mentioned, but I tried one called

X for a cramped PC environment

2003-09-02 Thread Heather Stern
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[I18n] AltGr for ISO_Level3_Shift

2003-09-02 Thread David Holl
I'm having trouble using FOUR_LEVEL key groups Here's an example xkb map to remap my space bar to produce the letters A, B, C, D: partial default alphanumeric_keys xkb_symbols basic { key.type[Group1]=FOUR_LEVEL; key SPCE { [ A, B, C, D ] }; key RALT {

Re: [XFree86] Xig-Sundry-Nonstandard

2003-09-02 Thread Eric Anholt
On Mon, 2003-09-01 at 06:08, Kyle wrote: When trying to play unreal tournament 2003 I recieve this error message: code Xlib: extension XiG-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD missing on display :0.0. OpenGL renderer relies on DXTC/S3TC support. The lack of the XiG extension isn't the problem, it's the lack

Re: [XFree86] Sync-On-Green option

2003-09-02 Thread Mark Vojkovich
On Tue, 2 Sep 2003, Bonny wrote: In data Mon, 1 Sep 2003 12:15:06 -0700 (PDT) Mark Vojkovich [EMAIL PROTECTED] scriveva: While some video cards can produce composite syncs or sync-on-green, not all, perhaps even most, cannot. There are, however, converters that go between the

[XFree86] File was infected with a virus

2003-09-02 Thread KDDI-INFO
Note: JP stands for Japanese. (B (BALERT!! (BThis e-mail contained one or more virus-infected files. (B(JP:$B0J2<$N%a!<%k$K%3%s%T%e!<%?%&%#%k%9$rH/8+$7$^$7$?!#(J) (B (BSubject: Re: Thank you! (BMessage-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (BDate: 2003/09/02 (BFrom: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (BTo: [EMAIL

[XFree86] RedHat 9-video-X failure on Matrox-G450

2003-09-02 Thread Jim G.
After a "good" completion of the install, during the first boot attempt: 1) X is never able to start. 2) An endless loop error messages and attempted recoveries then follows. 3) No other modes or solutions are offered, system is useless. Here (below) is the quoted error log file:

[XFree86] Report to Sender.

2003-09-02 Thread Gateway
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[XFree86] Re: RedHat 9-video-X failure on Matrox-G450

2003-09-02 Thread Mike A. Harris
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[XFree86] Re: How Energy Storage can help us ?

2003-09-02 Thread Flywheel
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[XFree86] New computer, same monitor, only 8-bit color?

2003-09-02 Thread Michael W. Lucas
Hi, I have a new computer, but recycled my monitor. The monitor (a Sampo AlphaScan 711) could do 1024x768 in 24-bit color on the old computer. On the new system, using the same monitor settings but a newer (and better supported) video card, it suddenly can do only 8-bit color, even with the same

Re: [XFree86] Test VGA interface

2003-09-02 Thread Chimou
On Mon, 2003-09-01 at 14:44, Kevin Brosius wrote: Chimou wrote: Hi, I would like to know if it is possible with standard xfree features to know if a display is connected to a particular VGA interface or if it is specific to the hardware/driver used. For information, I have a

[XFree86] touch screen driver

2003-09-02 Thread cristian
Hi @ all. I have a problem with touch screen on an embedded device (linux on cirrus logic ep 7311 - arm). I have compiled xfree as tiny X and this is my host.def file: /* * This configuration file contains additional configuration needed * to cross compile X for the Compaq iPAQ handheld computer.

[XFree86] Keyboard configuration for Alt chars

2003-09-02 Thread Ph Legay
Hello, I have installed the mandrake 9.1 on my Macintosh (Of course this distribtion has a XFREE 4.3 environment). But I have no # { [ | \ with my keyboard. In a tty console (CTL+ALT+F1), I succeed to modify my keyboard configuration, But nothing with the X Keyboard. I try a lot of things (create

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Re: [XFree86] 9200 Radeon DVI...

2003-09-02 Thread Alex Deucher
Open a bug on xfree86 bugzilla ( http://bugs.xfree86.org/ ). I've heard of several people with radeon 9200s that couldn't get the DVI port working. Alex -- Hi Alex, On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 14:10, Alex Deucher wrote: Try xfree86 cvs. some oems wire their dacs

Re: [XFree86] Keyboard configuration for Alt chars

2003-09-02 Thread Frank Murphy
On Tuesday 02 September 2003 2:52, Ph Legay wrote: I have installed the mandrake 9.1 on my Macintosh (Of course this distribtion has a XFREE 4.3 environment). But I have no # { [ | \ with my keyboard. In a tty console (CTL+ALT+F1), I succeed to modify my keyboard configuration, But nothing

Re: [XFree86] Backing Store Problem?

2003-09-02 Thread Ian Romanick
John Lee wrote: I am running XFree86 (v4.2.0) with fvwm2. If I turn backing store on in my X Server, I run into the issue where my window decorations and pop-up menus do not refresh properly. I have to paint them (ie move my mouse over where the menu should be) in order for them to display.

[XFree86] RE: Thank you!

2003-09-02 Thread support
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[XFree86] SYNC extension: missing length check in request handler

2003-09-02 Thread Ruben Nunez Francisco
VERSION: 4.3.0 REPORT: ProcSyncSetCounterReq() handler lacks REQUEST_SIZE_MATCH() check. (xc/programs/Xserver/Xext/sync.c) ___ XFree86 mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xfree86

Re: [XFree86] Test VGA interface

2003-09-02 Thread Mark Vojkovich
On Tue, 2 Sep 2003, Chimou wrote: On Mon, 2003-09-01 at 14:44, Kevin Brosius wrote: The XF86Config file allows you to specify BusID for each Device in the form: BusID0:14:0 Each device could then be configured with it's own Screen section. And then you just need to specify

[XFree86] Problem with my FreeBSD

2003-09-02 Thread Ricardo Javier Aranibar León
Hi, I need your help, I bougth FreeBSD4.8 (Build Operating System: FreeBSD 4.8 i386 [ELF] ) from FreeBSD Mall, but I have problems I can't configure my xwindow I'm attachement the log file. My video card is: Nvidia TNT2 64m My monitor is: LG studioworks 500G 15'' Please help me I will

Re: [XFree86] Problem with my FreeBSD

2003-09-02 Thread Mark Vojkovich
You are using the wrong driver. In your /usr/X11R6/etc/X11/XF86Config replace Driver vga with Driver nv MArk. PS. you don't have a TNT2, you have a GeForce2 MX On Tue, 2 Sep 2003, [iso-8859-1] Ricardo Javier Aranibar León wrote: Hi, I need your help, I bougth

Re: [XFree86] SYNC extension: missing length check in request handler

2003-09-02 Thread Marc Aurele La France
On Tue, 2 Sep 2003, Ruben Nunez Francisco wrote: VERSION: 4.3.0 REPORT: ProcSyncSetCounterReq() handler lacks REQUEST_SIZE_MATCH() check. (xc/programs/Xserver/Xext/sync.c) True. Thanks for the heads-up. Marc. +--+---+ |

[XFree86] xwd question

2003-09-02 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hello, I take a screenshot with xwd -root bla.rgb How can I convert this rgb file to a png, jpeg ... Not using gimp but a cli tool .. Regards Jonas ___ XFree86 mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xfree86

[XFree86] RE:Re: Re: My details - Executable Detected

2003-09-02 Thread ausmtp01-service
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Re: [XFree86] dual heads/single card help please

2003-09-02 Thread Alex Deucher
The bug with the second head going into powersave mode was fixed just after 4.3.0 was released. I have a fixed binary for glibc 2.3 based installs here (redhat 9, etc.) here: http://www.botchco.com/alex/radeon/430bugfix/radeon_drv.o Just copy the file into your existing installation. make sure

[XFree86] Problem experiencing in Linux........

2003-09-02 Thread Syed Moiz Ali
I am using Linux OS and I am unable to run KDE in graphical mode getting some sort of server crash error.I am new to linux so its very frustating for me to resolve this problem... Please do something in this regard I will very thankful to you. Thanks Moiz. LOG FILE : XFree86 Version 4.2.0

Re: [XFree86] Problem experiencing in Linux........

2003-09-02 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
What linux distro is this ? Have you configured X by hand ? (editing /etc/X11/XF86Config with your editor) If so try using the command xf86config it's a cli configuration tool. ___ XFree86 mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[XFree86] Reloading direct rendering

2003-09-02 Thread Jonathan A. Zdziarski
I'm wondering if there is any way to reload (or at least re-evaluate) direct rendering on-the-fly. Here's my problem. My laptop has 16MB VRAM and I normally like to run at 1400x1050x24, which is about 1MB short on memory to support DR. I'd like to be able to use the vidtool to drop down to

[XFree86] Out of Memory

2003-09-02 Thread Miles Roper
I'm curious how you got it to work too :o) Yep, that's the Xfree memory problem, this has been mentioned before on mailing list. no idea why this occurs. X is basically eating up all the memory and then crashing when it runs out. No known solution as yet, I've posted to the X mailing list, no

[XFree86] startx question

2003-09-02 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hey, I run fluxbox and window maker, I start them by adding fluxbox/wmaker to .xinitrc and then run startx. Now I've started to write a small script called myX , you use it like this myX fluxbox and it will first write fluxbox to .xinitrc and then runs startx .. Is there a way I can do this

Re: [XFree86] Sync-On-Green option

2003-09-02 Thread Bonny
In data Mon, 1 Sep 2003 16:34:49 -0700 (PDT) Mark Vojkovich [EMAIL PROTECTED] scriveva: NVIDIA cards do not support sync on green or composite syncs. And what about ATI Radeon 7500? I got this one too! -- Bonny - Registered Linux User #251752 --- VB LUG Moderator --- On the other

[XFree86] Re: Problem experiencing in Linux........

2003-09-02 Thread Mike A. Harris
On Tue, 2 Sep 2003, Syed Moiz Ali wrote: Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2003 13:23:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Syed Moiz Ali [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Problem experiencing in Linux I am using Linux OS and I am

Re: [XFree86] [PATCH] [BUG] [REREPORT] fontconfig.pc

2003-09-02 Thread David Dawes
On Mon, Sep 01, 2003 at 09:26:27PM +0200, Rene Rebe wrote: as mentioned weeks ago, current XFree CVS does not install a fontconfig.pc anymore (it did up to 4.3.99.6 or so when the fontconfig merge happend). This time a patch is attached (hereby relicensed to BSD, X11 whatever you like - as

Re: [XFree86] Out of Memory

2003-09-02 Thread Mark Vojkovich
It really doesn't sound like this is a server problem, rather the client is allocating BIG pixmaps or something like that. You can verify that by running restest: http://www.xfree86.org/~mvojkovi/restest.c Be careful! If you run that app you'll want to run it by redirecting the output to a

[XFree86] Resume

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Re: [XFree86] dual heads/single card help please

2003-09-02 Thread Eric J Bowser
On Tue, 2003-09-02 at 15:53, Alex Deucher wrote: Mergedfb does not work that same as xinerama based dualhead from a configuration perspective. With mergedfb you only have a single device section in your config file with some new special options. see my sample config here:

[XFree86] ATI 9000

2003-09-02 Thread João Mamede
well this is my prob.I have a asus L5C with a ati radeon 9000 M9.the problem is that when I start X using the driver radeon or driver ati option I just have a black screenm but if I connect a vga to the laptop there is image after I switch to vga(there is image in vga) and then again in the

Re: [XFree86] Old-style font rendering

2003-09-02 Thread Ross Vandegrift
On Sat, Aug 30, 2003 at 11:35:50PM +0200, M?ns Rullg?rd wrote: Got fontconfig 2.2.0 and freetype 2.1.4, but mozilla is still obviously using Xft and TrueType fonts. I guess I probably need a mozilla built with --disable-xft? Run fc-cache -vf. What does it say? You'll also need to

[XFree86] Multi-Head FreeBSD

2003-09-02 Thread Ted Wisniewski
Can anyone recommend a multihead video card (with as many as 4 heads) that can be used on FreeBSD 4.8 or 5.1? Thanks in advance.. Ted -- | Ted Wisniewski E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | Manager, Systems Group WEB: http://oz.plymouth.edu/~ted/ | |

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RE: [Thinstation-developer] Re: [XFree86] Out of Memory

2003-09-02 Thread Miles Roper
Hi Mark, Tried running this and I get the below restest log sh: Syntax error bad fd number restest log cating the log file XResQueryExtension failed restest XResQueryExtension failed have compiled and included the libXRes.so.1.0 in lib on the machine I'm running it on, its linked to

Re: [XFree86] Problem with my FreeBSD

2003-09-02 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [XFree86] startx question

2003-09-02 Thread Gerald S. Stoller
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [XFree86] startx question Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2003 21:51:09 + Hey, I run fluxbox and window maker, I start them by adding fluxbox/wmaker to .xinitrc and then run startx. Now I've started to