Re: On Yojimbo and Time Machine - script?

2008-02-19 Thread Jeff Wechter
Well, since Yojimbo needs to be shut down for a Time Machine backup, perhaps someone can either cobble together a simple script or share the script they've already written. I don't have the chops, sorry. For example, Filemaker Server has a built-in backup function that, at a user designated interv

Re: On Yojimbo and Time Machine

2008-02-19 Thread TjL
On 2/18/08, Dennis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm sure Bare Bones has considered this option for Yojimbo. But I > suspect there's greater complexity here than meets the eye. Perhaps > there are tradeoffs having to do with record encryption or .Mac sync. > Would we be willing to sacrifice those fe

Re: On Yojimbo and Time Machine

2008-02-18 Thread Dennis
On Feb 15, 2008, at 3:30 AM, Rhet Turnbull wrote: If Yojimbo stored records as separate files and kept metadata and/or index data in smaller DBs then the backup regime would only have to backup those files that had changed instead of the entire xxxMB sqllite file that Yojimbo uses now. I believe

Re: On Yojimbo and Time Machine

2008-02-15 Thread Patrick Woolsey
"Robert Sweet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sez: >And where exactly is the folder we should exclude? > Regards, Patrick Woolsey == Bare Bones Software, Inc. P.O. Box 1048, Bedford, MA 01730-104

Re: On Yojimbo and Time Machine

2008-02-15 Thread Robert Sweet
And where exactly is the folder we should exclude? Thanks. On Feb 13, 2008 3:22 PM, Niels Kobschaetzki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Oct 31, 2007 5:03 PM, Steve Kalkwarf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Before things get too far out of control, I want to clarify some > > facts about how Time Mac

Re: On Yojimbo and Time Machine

2008-02-15 Thread Lance
Hello- On Feb 14, 2008, at 4:24 PM, Jan Erik Moström wrote: Rhet Turnbull <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 08-02-14 15.09 Then again, Yojimbo's habit of storing everything in a monolithic database has been one of my (few) critiques since Yojimbo was released. Curious, why is this bad? In the case

Re: On Yojimbo and Time Machine

2008-02-15 Thread Rhet Turnbull
This is getting offtopic for Yojimbo so I won't continue past this email. I appreciate your comments Jan and I do understand the issue of data of data consistency. The only way to completely avoid that is to take the system completely down for backup and either run the backup in single user mode o

Re: On Yojimbo and Time Machine

2008-02-15 Thread Florian Leitner
Coming to think of it, there would be a way to back up Yojimbo with Time Machine: you just need to create a "sparse bundle disk image" with Disk Utility, put your Yj DB on that and make the Yojimbo folder in ~/Library/Application Support/ an alias to the mountpoint of the image in /Volumes.

Re: On Yojimbo and Time Machine

2008-02-14 Thread Jan Erik Moström
Rhet Turnbull <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 08-02-14 15.58 I would never use a backup solution that didn't run on live data. Thankfully the days of "they system is down for backup" are long gone. Whether I use Time Machine or I use Super Duper or Chronosync or something else, I'm certainly not about to ta

Re: On Yojimbo and Time Machine

2008-02-14 Thread TjL
On 2/14/08, Patrick Woolsey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > TjL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sez: > > >It also, I would assume, is why .Mac fails to sync Yojimbo so often. > >Instead of syncing 1,000 small files, it is trying to sync one > >monolithic DB. [...] > > That's not the case; although .Mac must u

Re: On Yojimbo and Time Machine

2008-02-14 Thread Patrick Woolsey
TjL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sez: >It also, I would assume, is why .Mac fails to sync Yojimbo so often. >Instead of syncing 1,000 small files, it is trying to sync one >monolithic DB. [...] That's not the case; although .Mac must ultimately contain your whole data set before syncing between machines

Re: On Yojimbo and Time Machine

2008-02-14 Thread TjL
On 2/14/08, Rhet Turnbull <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Curious, why is this bad? > > 1. Backup...the entire DB file (mine is hundreds of MB) needs to be > backed up. I backup everyday, both to external drive and offsite. > That means the large Yojimbo file needs to be backed up every day, > t

Re: On Yojimbo and Time Machine

2008-02-14 Thread Rhet Turnbull
> Curious, why is this bad? 1. Backup...the entire DB file (mine is hundreds of MB) needs to be backed up. I backup everyday, both to external drive and offsite. That means the large Yojimbo file needs to be backed up every day, taking up unnecessary bandwidth and disk space. 2. Data integrity...

Re: On Yojimbo and Time Machine

2008-02-14 Thread Kenneth Kirksey
On Feb 14, 2008, at 4:09 PM, Rhet Turnbull wrote: I hope that BareBones and/or Apple gets this fixed soon. Requiring the user to have two separate backup plans is unacceptable. For me it hasn't been that big of a deal. 1) I excluded my Yojimbo DB from my time machine backups 2) I set up a f

Re: On Yojimbo and Time Machine

2008-02-14 Thread Jan Erik Moström
Rhet Turnbull <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 08-02-14 15.09 Then again, Yojimbo's habit of storing everything in a monolithic database has been one of my (few) critiques since Yojimbo was released. Curious, why is this bad? I hope that BareBones and/or Apple gets this fixed soon. Requiring the user to

Re: On Yojimbo and Time Machine

2008-02-14 Thread Rhet Turnbull
I was unaware of the restriction regarding Yojimbo and Time Machine. Fortunately I haven't upgraded to Leopard yet (but had planned to do so now that the 10.5.2 update is out and in fact have the Leopard box sitting on my shelf). Time Machine was one of the driving reasons for me to upgrade to Leo

Re: On Yojimbo and Time Machine

2008-02-14 Thread Patrick Woolsey
"Niels Kobschaetzki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sez: >On Oct 31, 2007 5:03 PM, Steve Kalkwarf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Before things get too far out of control, I want to clarify some >> facts about how Time Machine and Yojimbo. >> >> Yojimbo is built on CoreData, the same underlying technology as >

Re: On Yojimbo and Time Machine

2008-02-13 Thread Niels Kobschaetzki
On Oct 31, 2007 5:03 PM, Steve Kalkwarf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Before things get too far out of control, I want to clarify some > facts about how Time Machine and Yojimbo. > > Yojimbo is built on CoreData, the same underlying technology as > Aperture, and several other products. Because of is