Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs and small files

2007-09-21 Thread Roch - PAE
Claus Guttesen writes: I have many small - mostly jpg - files where the original file is approx. 1 MB and the thumbnail generated is approx. 4 KB. The files are currently on vxfs. I have copied all files from one partition onto a zfs-ditto. The vxfs-partition occupies 401 GB and

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs and small files

2007-09-21 Thread Claus Guttesen
So the 1 MB files are stored as ~8 x 128K recordsize. Because of 5003563 use smaller tail block for last block of object The last block of you file is partially used. It will depend on your filesize distribution by without that info we can only guess that we're wasting an avg of

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs and small files

2007-09-21 Thread Roch - PAE
Claus Guttesen writes: So the 1 MB files are stored as ~8 x 128K recordsize. Because of 5003563 use smaller tail block for last block of object The last block of you file is partially used. It will depend on your filesize distribution by without that info we can

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS (and quota)

2007-09-21 Thread Pawel Jakub Dawidek
I'm CCing zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org, as this doesn't look like FreeBSD-specific problem. It looks there is a problem with block allocation(?) when we are near quota limit. tank/foo dataset has quota set to 10m: Without quota: FreeBSD: # dd if=/dev/zero of=/tank/test bs=512

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS panic when trying to import pool

2007-09-21 Thread Geoffroy Doucet
Ok I found the problem with 0x06, one disk was missing. But now I got all my disk and I get 0x05.: Sep 21 10:25:53 unknown ^Mpanic[cpu0]/thread=ff0001e12c80: Sep 21 10:25:53 unknown genunix: [ID 603766 kern.notice] assertion failed: dmu_read(os, smo-smo_object, offset, size, entry_map) == 0

[zfs-discuss] The ZFS-Man.

2007-09-21 Thread Pawel Jakub Dawidek
Hi. I gave a talk about ZFS during EuroBSDCon 2007, and because it won the the best talk award and some find it funny, here it is: http://youtube.com/watch?v=o3TGM0T1CvE a bit better version is here: http://people.freebsd.org/~pjd/misc/zfs/zfs-man.swf BTW. Inspired by ZFS

Re: [zfs-discuss] enterprise scale redundant Solaris 10/ZFS server providing NFSv4/CIFS

2007-09-21 Thread Andy Lubel
On 9/20/07 7:31 PM, Paul B. Henson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 20 Sep 2007, Tim Spriggs wrote: It's an IBM re-branded NetApp which can which we are using for NFS and iSCSI. Yeah its fun to see IBM compete with its OEM provider Netapp. Ah, I see. Is it comparable storage

Re: [zfs-discuss] enterprise scale redundant Solaris 10/ZFS server

2007-09-21 Thread Tim Spriggs
Gino wrote: The x4500 is very sweet and the only thing stopping us from buying two instead of another shelf is the fact that we have lost pools on Sol10u3 servers and there is no easy way of making two pools redundant (ie the complexity of clustering.) Simply sending incremental

Re: [zfs-discuss] enterprise scale redundant Solaris 10/ZFS server providing NFSv4/CIFS

2007-09-21 Thread Mike Gerdts
On 9/20/07, Paul B. Henson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Again though, that would imply two different storage locations visible to the clients? I'd really rather avoid that. For example, with our current Samba implementation, a user can just connect to '\\files.csupomona.edu\username' to access

Re: [zfs-discuss] zoneadm clone doesn't support ZFS snapshots in s10u4?

2007-09-21 Thread Cindy . Swearingen
Mike, Grant, I reported the zoneadm.1m man page problem to the man page group. I also added some stronger wording to the ZFS Admin Guide and the ZFS FAQ about not using ZFS for zone root paths for the Solaris 10 release and that upgrading or patching is not supported for either Solaris 10 or

Re: [zfs-discuss] The ZFS-Man.

2007-09-21 Thread eric kustarz
On Sep 21, 2007, at 11:47 AM, Pawel Jakub Dawidek wrote: Hi. I gave a talk about ZFS during EuroBSDCon 2007, and because it won the the best talk award and some find it funny, here it is: http://youtube.com/watch?v=o3TGM0T1CvE a bit better version is here:

Re: [zfs-discuss] enterprise scale redundant Solaris 10/ZFS server providing NFSv4/CIFS

2007-09-21 Thread Paul B. Henson
On Thu, 20 Sep 2007, Tim Spriggs wrote: The x4500 is very sweet and the only thing stopping us from buying two instead of another shelf is the fact that we have lost pools on Sol10u3 servers and there is no easy way of making two pools redundant (ie the complexity of clustering.) Simply

Re: [zfs-discuss] The ZFS-Man.

2007-09-21 Thread Jonathan Edwards
On Sep 21, 2007, at 14:57, eric kustarz wrote: Hi. I gave a talk about ZFS during EuroBSDCon 2007, and because it won the the best talk award and some find it funny, here it is: http://youtube.com/watch?v=o3TGM0T1CvE a bit better version is here:

Re: [zfs-discuss] The ZFS-Man.

2007-09-21 Thread Torrey McMahon
Jonathan Edwards wrote: On Sep 21, 2007, at 14:57, eric kustarz wrote: Hi. I gave a talk about ZFS during EuroBSDCon 2007, and because it won the the best talk award and some find it funny, here it is: http://youtube.com/watch?v=o3TGM0T1CvE a bit better version is here:

Re: [zfs-discuss] enterprise scale redundant Solaris 10/ZFS server providing NFSv4/CIFS

2007-09-21 Thread Tim Spriggs
Paul B. Henson wrote: On Thu, 20 Sep 2007, Tim Spriggs wrote: The x4500 is very sweet and the only thing stopping us from buying two instead of another shelf is the fact that we have lost pools on Sol10u3 servers and there is no easy way of making two pools redundant (ie the complexity

Re: [zfs-discuss] enterprise scale redundant Solaris 10/ZFS server providing NFSv4/CIFS

2007-09-21 Thread eric kustarz
On Sep 21, 2007, at 3:50 PM, Tim Spriggs wrote: Paul B. Henson wrote: On Thu, 20 Sep 2007, Tim Spriggs wrote: The x4500 is very sweet and the only thing stopping us from buying two instead of another shelf is the fact that we have lost pools on Sol10u3 servers and there is no easy

Re: [zfs-discuss] enterprise scale redundant Solaris 10/ZFS server providing NFSv4/CIFS

2007-09-21 Thread Tim Spriggs
eric kustarz wrote: On Sep 21, 2007, at 3:50 PM, Tim Spriggs wrote: m2# zpool create test mirror iscsi_lun1 iscsi_lun2 m2# zpool export test m1# zpool import -f test m1# reboot m2# reboot Since I haven't actually looked into what problem caused your pools to become damaged/lost, i can

Re: [zfs-discuss] zoneadm clone doesn't support ZFS snapshots in

2007-09-21 Thread Christine Tran
grant beattie wrote: I don't have any advice, unfortunately, but I do know that in my case putting zones on UFS is simply not an option. there must be a way considering there is nothing in the documentation to suggest that zones on ZFS are not supported. There's a very explicit Do not

Re: [zfs-discuss] zoneadm clone doesn't support ZFS snapshots in

2007-09-21 Thread Mike Gerdts
On 9/20/07, Matthew Flanagan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mike, I followed your procedure for cloning zones and it worked well up until yesterday when I tried applying the S10U4 kernel patch 12001-14 and it wouldn't apply because I had my zones on zfs :( Thanks for sharing. That sucks. I'm

Re: [zfs-discuss] zoneadm clone doesn't support ZFS snapshots in

2007-09-21 Thread Mike Gerdts
On 9/21/07, Christine Tran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: patch and install tools can't figure out pools yet. If you have a 1GB pool and 10 filesystems on it, du reports each having 1GB, do you have 10GB capacity? The tools can't tell. Please check the archives, this subject has been extensively

Re: [zfs-discuss] enterprise scale redundant Solaris 10/ZFS server providing NFSv4/CIFS

2007-09-21 Thread Paul B. Henson
On Thu, 20 Sep 2007, eric kustarz wrote: As far as quotas, I was less than impressed with their implementation. Would you mind going into more details here? The feature set was fairly extensive, they supported volume quotas for users or groups, or qtree quotas, which similar to the ZFS quota

Re: [zfs-discuss] enterprise scale redundant Solaris 10/ZFS server providing NFSv4/CIFS

2007-09-21 Thread Paul B. Henson
On Fri, 21 Sep 2007, Andy Lubel wrote: Yeah its fun to see IBM compete with its OEM provider Netapp. Yes, we had both IBM and Netapp out as well. I'm not sure what the point was... We do have some IBM SAN equipment on site, I suppose if we had gone with the IBM variant we could have

Re: [zfs-discuss] enterprise scale redundant Solaris 10/ZFS server providing NFSv4/CIFS

2007-09-21 Thread Paul B. Henson
On Fri, 21 Sep 2007, James F. Hranicky wrote: It just seems rather involved, and relatively inefficient to continuously be mounting/unmounting stuff all the time. One of the applications to be deployed against the filesystem will be web service, I can't really envision a web server with

Re: [zfs-discuss] enterprise scale redundant Solaris 10/ZFS server providing NFSv4/CIFS

2007-09-21 Thread Paul B. Henson
On Fri, 21 Sep 2007, Mike Gerdts wrote: MS-DFS could be helpful here. You could have a virtual samba instance that generates MS-DFS redirects to the appropriate spot. At one point in That's true, although I rather detest Microsoft DFS (they stole the acronym from DCE/DFS, even though

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs mount points (all-or-nothing)

2007-09-21 Thread Matthew Ahrens
msl wrote: Hello all, There is a way to configure the zpool to legacy_mount, and have all filesystems in that pool mounted automatically? I will try explain better: - Imagine that i have a zfs pool with 1000 filesystems. - I want to control the mount/unmount of that pool, so, i did

Re: [zfs-discuss] enterprise scale redundant Solaris 10/ZFS server providing NFSv4/CIFS

2007-09-21 Thread Paul B. Henson
On Fri, 21 Sep 2007, Tim Spriggs wrote: Still, we are using ZFS but we are re-thinking on how to deploy/manage it. Our original model had us exporting/importing pools in order to move zone data between machines. We had done the same with UFS on iSCSI [...] When we don't move pools around, zfs

Re: [zfs-discuss] enterprise scale redundant Solaris 10/ZFS server providing NFSv4/CIFS

2007-09-21 Thread Ed Plese
On Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 12:49:29PM -0700, Paul B. Henson wrote: I was planning to provide CIFS services via Samba. I noticed a posting a while back from a Sun engineer working on integrating NFSv4/ZFS ACL support into Samba, but I'm not sure if that was ever completed and shipped