Re: [zfs-discuss] SDXC and the future of ZFS

2009-01-12 Thread Casper . Dik
My impression is not that other OS's aren't interested in ZFS, they are, it's that the licensing restrictions limit native support to Solaris, BSD, and OS-X. If you wanted native support in Windows or Linux, it would require a significant effort from Sun. Why is that a problem for Windows?

[zfs-discuss] NFS Block Monitor

2009-01-12 Thread Marcelo Leal
Hello all.. I did some tests to understand the behaviour of ZFS and slog (SSD), and for understand the workload i did implement a simple software to visualize the data blocks (read/write). I'm posting here the link in the case somebody wants to try it. http://www.eall.com.br/blog/?p=906

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS capable GRUB install from within Linux?

2009-01-12 Thread Johan Hartzenberg
On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 8:28 PM, David Abrahams d...@boostpro.com wrote: FWIW, I managed to build a source merge of the solaris grub-0.97 (with ZFS capability) and ubuntu's latest copy of grub-0.97 (with whatever patches they've backported into it). The sources are available at

[zfs-discuss] ZFS vs ZFS + HW raid? Which is best?

2009-01-12 Thread Orvar Korvar
Some people use ZFS and HardWare raid. The recommended is to use only ZFS and HW raid. What are the advantages/disadvantages? Should you use a HW raid in conjunction with ZFS, if possible? Or only ZFS? Which is best? -- This message posted from opensolaris.org

Re: [zfs-discuss] SDXC and the future of ZFS

2009-01-12 Thread Joerg Schilling
Eric D. Mudama edmud...@bounceswoosh.org wrote: My impression is not that other OS's aren't interested in ZFS, they are, it's that the licensing restrictions limit native support to Solaris, BSD, and OS-X. The BDF folks had some cons against the CDDL but after I had a lobger discussion with

Re: [zfs-discuss] SDXC and the future of ZFS

2009-01-12 Thread Fabian Wörner
my post was not to start a discuss gplcddl. It just an idea to promote ZFS and OPENSOLARIS If it was against anything than against exfat, nothing else!!! -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list

[zfs-discuss] ZFS size is different ?

2009-01-12 Thread Chookiex
Hi all, I have 2 questions about ZFS. 1. I have create a snapshot in my pool1/data1, and zfs send/recv it to pool2/data2. but I found the USED in zfs list is different: NAME USED AVAIL REFER MOUNTPOINT pool2/data2 160G 1.44T 159G /pool2/data2 pool1/data 176G

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS vs ZFS + HW raid? Which is best?

2009-01-12 Thread Richard Elling
Orvar Korvar wrote: Some people use ZFS and HardWare raid. The recommended is to use only ZFS and HW raid. What are the advantages/disadvantages? Should you use a HW raid in conjunction with ZFS, if possible? Or only ZFS? Which is best? There are many paths to the top of the mountain.

Re: [zfs-discuss] SDXC and the future of ZFS

2009-01-12 Thread Joerg Schilling
Fabian Wörner fabian.woer...@googlemail.com wrote: my post was not to start a discuss gplcddl. It just an idea to promote ZFS and OPENSOLARIS If it was against anything than against exfat, nothing else!!! If you like to promoote ZFS, you need to understand why the party you like to

Re: [zfs-discuss] zpool status -x strangeness

2009-01-12 Thread Ben Miller
I just put in a (low priority) bug report on this. Ben This post from close to a year ago never received a response. We just had this same thing happen to another server that is running Solaris 10 U6. One of the disks was marked as removed and the pool degraded, but 'zpool status -x' says

Re: [zfs-discuss] SDXC and the future of ZFS

2009-01-12 Thread Carson Gaspar
Joerg Schilling wrote: Fabian Wörner fabian.woer...@googlemail.com wrote: my post was not to start a discuss gplcddl. It just an idea to promote ZFS and OPENSOLARIS If it was against anything than against exfat, nothing else!!! If you like to promoote ZFS, you need to understand why

[zfs-discuss] zfs subdirectories to data set conversion

2009-01-12 Thread David Briand
Is there a simple way to convert subdirectories in a ZFS pool into data sets? thanks, -dave ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs subdirectories to data set conversion

2009-01-12 Thread Nicolas Williams
On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 12:14:09PM -0500, David Briand wrote: Is there a simple way to convert subdirectories in a ZFS pool into data sets? An inefficient and complicated, but fast way is to snapshot and clone the dataset containing the directory in question, then remove everything from the

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs subdirectories to data set conversion

2009-01-12 Thread David Briand
Nicolas Williams wrote: On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 12:14:09PM -0500, David Briand wrote: Is there a simple way to convert subdirectories in a ZFS pool into data sets? An inefficient and complicated, but fast way is to snapshot and clone the dataset containing the

Re: [zfs-discuss] Odd network performance with ZFS/CIFS

2009-01-12 Thread Roch Bourbonnais
Try setting the cachemode property on the target filesystem. Also verify that the source can pump data through the net at the desired rate if the target is /dev/null. -r Le 8 janv. 09 à 18:46, gnomad a écrit : I have just built an opensolaris box (2008.11) as a small fileserver (6x 1TB

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs iscsi sustained write performance

2009-01-12 Thread Roch Bourbonnais
Le 4 janv. 09 à 21:09, milosz a écrit : thanks for your responses, guys... the nagle's tweak is the first thing i did, actually. not sure what the network limiting factors could be here... there's no switch, jumbo frames are on... maybe it's the e1000g driver? it's been wonky since

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs subdirectories to data set conversion

2009-01-12 Thread Moore, Joe
Nicolas Williams wrote: It'd be awesome to have a native directory-dataset conversion feature in ZFS. And, relatedly, fast moves of files across datasets in the same volume. These two RFEs have been discussed to death in the list; see the archives. This would be a nice feature to have.

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs subdirectories to data set conversion

2009-01-12 Thread Nicolas Williams
On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 01:59:10PM -0500, Moore, Joe wrote: Nicolas Williams wrote: It'd be awesome to have a native directory-dataset conversion feature in ZFS. And, relatedly, fast moves of files across datasets in the same volume. These two RFEs have been discussed to death in the

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS vs ZFS + HW raid? Which is best?

2009-01-12 Thread JZ
[having late lunch hour for beloved Orvar] one more baby scenario for your consideration -- you can give me some ZFS based codes and I will go to china and burn some HW RAID ASICs to fulfill your desire? best, z - Original Message - From: Richard Elling richard.ell...@sun.com To:

[zfs-discuss] Can the new consumer NAS devices run OpenSolaris?

2009-01-12 Thread Joe S
In the last few weeks, I've seen a number of new NAS devices released from companies like HP, QNAP, VIA, Lacie, Buffalo, Iomega, Cisco/Linksys, etc. Most of these are powered by Intel Celeron, Intel Atom, AMD Sempron, Marvell Orion, or Via C7 chips. I've also noticed that most allow a maximum of 1

Re: [zfs-discuss] Can the new consumer NAS devices run OpenSolaris?

2009-01-12 Thread mike
i'm not sure how many via chips support 64-bit, which seems to be highly recommended. atoms seem to be more suitable. On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 1:14 PM, Joe S js.li...@gmail.com wrote: In the last few weeks, I've seen a number of new NAS devices released from companies like HP, QNAP, VIA, Lacie,

Re: [zfs-discuss] Can the new consumer NAS devices run OpenSolaris?

2009-01-12 Thread JZ
[having good long lunch...] did you do ZFS on your huge PC? try that first, and then please ask again - will run OpenSolaris? You don't run things on NAS boxes, you attach things to them. best, z at lunch - Original Message - From: Joe S js.li...@gmail.com To:

[zfs-discuss] Need help with disk layout

2009-01-12 Thread Brian Hechinger
I've got a server at home that I'm about to set up. I'll be moving 3x 500GB SATA disks into it from a different machine, so the config of those is set. What I need help with is the other disks. I'm not sure what the best way to use them is. I want to do ZFS Boot, so I'm limited to what

Re: [zfs-discuss] Can the new consumer NAS devices run OpenSolaris?

2009-01-12 Thread Joe S
On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 1:21 PM, JZ j...@excelsioritsolutions.com wrote: try that first, and then please ask again - will run OpenSolaris? You don't run things on NAS boxes, you attach things to them. These NAS devices need an OS. They come preinstalled with Windows Home Server. I would like

Re: [zfs-discuss] Can the new consumer NAS devices run OpenSolaris?

2009-01-12 Thread JZ
a, I see. did you ever think about using game boxes for your home digital media storage? can be very fun! http://www.xbox.com/en-US/support/hardware/memoryupdate/default.htm best, z - Original Message - From: Joe S js.li...@gmail.com To: JZ j...@excelsioritsolutions.com Cc:

[zfs-discuss] zfs send / zfs receive hanging

2009-01-12 Thread Mika Borner
Hi Updated today from snv 101 to 105 today. I wanted to do zfs send/receive to a new zpool while forgetting that the new pool was a newer version. zfs send timed out after a while, but it was impossible to kill the receive process. Shouldn't the zfs receive command just fail with a wrong

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs send / zfs receive hanging

2009-01-12 Thread Mike Futerko
Hi It would be also nice to be able to specify the zpool version during pool creation. E.g. If I have a newer machine and I want to move data to an older one, I should be able to specify the pool version, otherwise it's a one-way street. zpool create -o version=xx ... Mike

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS vs ZFS + HW raid? Which is best?

2009-01-12 Thread Toby Thain
On 12-Jan-09, at 3:43 PM, JZ wrote: [having late lunch hour for beloved Orvar] one more baby scenario for your consideration -- you can give me some ZFS based codes and I will go to china and burn some HW RAID ASICs to fulfill your desire? Is that what passes for product development

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS vs ZFS + HW raid? Which is best?

2009-01-12 Thread JZ
Not really. In chinatown, we are trying to do some ZFS home based NAS, no need to burn anything. best, z - Original Message - From: Toby Thain t...@telegraphics.com.au To: JZ j...@excelsioritsolutions.com Cc: Richard Elling richard.ell...@sun.com; Orvar Korvar

Re: [zfs-discuss] Problem importing degraded Pool

2009-01-12 Thread Philipp Haußleiter
So after a short time of silence i took some hours to have a look over the plain disks... So first of all: The Data seems still to be there!!! :-) i can identify it by some file headers. So i am currently doing some testing within a VMSetup. After that i will try to scan my

Re: [zfs-discuss] Problem importing degraded Pool

2009-01-12 Thread JZ
Ahh. what a relief, knowing the baby data could be ok... best wishes! I am going for some seafood dinner now. cheers, z - Original Message - From: Philipp Haußleiter phil...@haussleiter.de To: zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 5:45 PM Subject: Re:

Re: [zfs-discuss] Need help with disk layout

2009-01-12 Thread Al Hopper
On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 3:23 PM, Brian Hechinger wo...@4amlunch.net wrote: I've got a server at home that I'm about to set up. I'll be moving 3x 500GB SATA disks into it from a different machine, so the config of those is set. What I need help with is the other disks. I'm not sure what

Re: [zfs-discuss] SDXC and the future of ZFS

2009-01-12 Thread Miles Nordin
tt == Toby Thain t...@telegraphics.com.au writes: j == JZ j...@excelsioritsolutions.com writes: Nobody in their right mind is using Gentoo. tt a lot of seasoned sysadmins would disagree. Gentoo makes sense for embedded projects. OpenWRT is arguably source-based too. but Gentoo

Re: [zfs-discuss] SDXC and the future of ZFS

2009-01-12 Thread Miles Nordin
js == Joerg Schilling joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de writes: js A GPLd ZFS would however disallow to use it on *BSD and Mac OS js X. and also Solaris. which is why ZFS would not be GPL'd that way. It'd be a choice of license. I think someone floated the same either/or license as

Re: [zfs-discuss] Need help with disk layout

2009-01-12 Thread Brian Hechinger
On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 04:55:15PM -0600, Al Hopper wrote: Hi Brian, I tried running with one 146Gb 15k SAS disk for Zil and a 2nd (identical) disk for L2ARC and it turns out to be a bad use of that hardware. Bad is a highly subjective assessment, based on the type of workload you're

Re: [zfs-discuss] Can the new consumer NAS devices run OpenSolaris?

2009-01-12 Thread Miles Nordin
js == Joe S js.li...@gmail.com writes: m == mike mike...@gmail.com writes: j == JZ j...@excelsioritsolutions.com writes: js Marvell Orion, I think Orion is MIPS. I heard the new Orion will have crypto acceleration though. maybe keep an eye on it, and think of running openwrt there

Re: [zfs-discuss] SDXC and the future of ZFS

2009-01-12 Thread Richard Elling
Carson Gaspar wrote: Joerg Schilling wrote: Fabian Wörner fabian.woer...@googlemail.com wrote: my post was not to start a discuss gplcddl. It just an idea to promote ZFS and OPENSOLARIS If it was against anything than against exfat, nothing else!!! If you like to

Re: [zfs-discuss] Need help with disk layout

2009-01-12 Thread JZ
Coding in C is like sending a 3 year old to do groceries. You gotta tell them exactly what you want or you'll end up with a cupboard full of pop tarts and pancake mix. -- IRC User (http://www.bash.org/?841435) but who sends a baby to do groceries? can't pick up the wine for daddy. and which

Re: [zfs-discuss] SDXC and the future of ZFS

2009-01-12 Thread Andrew Gabriel
Richard Elling wrote: Carson Gaspar wrote: Joerg Schilling wrote: Fabian Wörner fabian.woer...@googlemail.com wrote: my post was not to start a discuss gplcddl. It just an idea to promote ZFS and OPENSOLARIS If it was against anything than against exfat,

Re: [zfs-discuss] SDXC and the future of ZFS

2009-01-12 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Mon, 12 Jan 2009, Miles Nordin wrote: but yeah, that OTness aside, Sun's deliberately crafting their brand new CDDL license to be incompatible with the GPL isn't exactly in the spirit of free software. BSD is also not in the GPL camp, but the mainstream of BSD has altered their licenses

Re: [zfs-discuss] Can the new consumer NAS devices run OpenSolaris?

2009-01-12 Thread Brandon High
On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 1:14 PM, Joe S js.li...@gmail.com wrote: In the last few weeks, I've seen a number of new NAS devices released from companies like HP, QNAP, VIA, Lacie, Buffalo, Iomega, Cisco/Linksys, etc. Most of these are powered by Intel Celeron, Intel Atom, AMD Sempron, Marvell

Re: [zfs-discuss] Can the new consumer NAS devices run OpenSolaris?

2009-01-12 Thread JZ
Hi B, You are not out eating seafood tonight? For real? the cost thing... I will take your words for it. And I will tell my chinatown folks maybe stop doing the ZFS home NAS, but try the new Windows Home thing... And those folke, they eat more fried rice, not seafood, and some are the 佛 (fo)

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs iscsi sustained write performance

2009-01-12 Thread Jim Dunham
Roch Bourbonnais wrote: Le 4 janv. 09 à 21:09, milosz a écrit : thanks for your responses, guys... the nagle's tweak is the first thing i did, actually. not sure what the network limiting factors could be here... there's no switch, jumbo frames are on... maybe it's the e1000g driver? it's

Re: [zfs-discuss] Can the new consumer NAS devices run OpenSolaris?

2009-01-12 Thread JZ
ok, was I too harsh on the list? sorry folks, as I said, I have the biggest ego. no one can hurt that by trying to fight me, but yes, it can be hurt if I have to hurt the friends I love in protecting my ego or my other friends' ego. but no one can get hurt if we don't claim what we have or

Re: [zfs-discuss] ISCI Network Hang - Lun becomes unavailable

2009-01-12 Thread M
Some additional info: I'm using the default port 3260 and native iscsitgt (not Comstar). What other details would you like? Im running OpenSolaris 2008.11 snv_101b_rc2 X86 Thinkpad T60p laptop with 3GB of memory, a 2.1Ghz core duo proc, with 2 500gb mirriored USB drives. I did notice that when

Re: [zfs-discuss] Can the new consumer NAS devices run OpenSolaris?

2009-01-12 Thread Nathan Kroenert
Meh - I doubt you hurt anyone. Most people have kill files for that sort of stuff. heh. ;) On the 'which if these should work' sort of question, if you do happen to try any of those systems, and they work, remember to submit the details to the HCL. :) I'm keen to give it a whack on a small

[zfs-discuss] zfs null pointer deref, getting data out of single-user mode

2009-01-12 Thread David Dyer-Bennet
My home NAS box, that I'd upgraded to Solaris 2008.11 after a series of crashes leaving the smf database damaged, and which ran for 4 days cleanly, suddenly fell right back to where the old one had been before. Looking at the logs, I see something similar to (this is manually transcribed to paper

[zfs-discuss] Several questions concerning ZFS

2009-01-12 Thread Simon
Hi Experts, IHAC who using Solaris 10 + ZFS,two questions they're concerned: - ZIL(zfs intent log) is enabled by default for ZFS,there are varied storage purchased by customer(such as EMC CX/DMX series,HDS AMS/USP series and etc),customer wonder whether there is any impact to these storages if

[zfs-discuss] zfs panic

2009-01-12 Thread Krzys
any idea what could cause my system to panic? I get my system rebooted daily at various times. very strange, but its pointing to zfs. I have U6 with all latest patches. Jan 12 05:47:12 chrysek unix: [ID 836849 kern.notice] Jan 12 05:47:12 chrysek ^Mpanic[cpu1]/thread=30002c8d4e0: Jan 12

Re: [zfs-discuss] Several questions concerning ZFS

2009-01-12 Thread Neil Perrin
On 01/12/09 20:45, Simon wrote: Hi Experts, IHAC who using Solaris 10 + ZFS,two questions they're concerned: - ZIL(zfs intent log) is enabled by default for ZFS,there are varied storage purchased by customer(such as EMC CX/DMX series,HDS AMS/USP series and etc),customer wonder whether

Re: [zfs-discuss] ISCI Network Hang - Lun becomes unavailable

2009-01-12 Thread Richard Elling
M wrote: Thanks for the response Richard. That won't fix it... whatever it is. You're losing the net and you need to solve that problem first. I'd check /var/adm/messages file and see if there is anything unusual, then fmdump -eV, looking for clues. I don't see anything in the messages

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs panic

2009-01-12 Thread Neil Perrin
This is a known bug: 6678070 Panic from vdev_mirror_map_alloc() http://bugs.opensolaris.org/view_bug.do?bug_id=6678070 Neil. On 01/12/09 21:12, Krzys wrote: any idea what could cause my system to panic? I get my system rebooted daily at various times. very strange, but its pointing to zfs.