Re: [zfs-discuss] Problems at 90% zpool capacity 2008.05

2009-01-08 Thread Paul Bartholdi
On 1/8/09, Bill Sommerfeld sommerf...@sun.com wrote: On Tue, 2009-01-06 at 22:18 -0700, Neil Perrin wrote: I vaguely remember a time when UFS had limits to prevent ordinary users from consuming past a certain limit, allowing only the super-user to use it. Not that I'm advocating that

Re: [zfs-discuss] Problems at 90% zpool capacity 2008.05

2009-01-07 Thread Karl Pielorz
--On 06 January 2009 16:37 -0800 Carson Gaspar car...@taltos.org wrote: On 1/6/2009 4:19 PM, Sam wrote: I was hoping that this was the problem (because just buying more discs is the cheapest solution given time=$$) but running it by somebody at work they said going over 90% can cause

Re: [zfs-discuss] Problems at 90% zpool capacity 2008.05

2009-01-07 Thread Sam
Ok so the capacity is ruled out, it still bothers me that after experiencing the error if I do a 'zpool status' it just hangs (forever) but if I reboot the system everything comes back up fine (for a little while). Last night I installed the latest SXDE and I'm going to see if that fixes it,

Re: [zfs-discuss] Problems at 90% zpool capacity 2008.05

2009-01-07 Thread JZ
: [zfs-discuss] Problems at 90% zpool capacity 2008.05 Ok so the capacity is ruled out, it still bothers me that after experiencing the error if I do a 'zpool status' it just hangs (forever) but if I reboot the system everything comes back up fine (for a little while). Last night I

Re: [zfs-discuss] Problems at 90% zpool capacity 2008.05

2009-01-07 Thread Tim
On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 12:33 PM, Sam s...@smugmug.com wrote: Ok so the capacity is ruled out, it still bothers me that after experiencing the error if I do a 'zpool status' it just hangs (forever) but if I reboot the system everything comes back up fine (for a little while). Last night I

Re: [zfs-discuss] Problems at 90% zpool capacity 2008.05

2009-01-07 Thread Kees Nuyt
On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 22:18:40 -0700, Neil Perrin neil.per...@sun.com wrote: I vaguely remember a time when UFS had limits to prevent ordinary users from consuming past a certain limit, allowing only the super-user to use it. Not that I'm advocating that approach for ZFS. I know that approach from

Re: [zfs-discuss] Problems at 90% zpool capacity 2008.05

2009-01-07 Thread Bill Sommerfeld
On Tue, 2009-01-06 at 22:18 -0700, Neil Perrin wrote: I vaguely remember a time when UFS had limits to prevent ordinary users from consuming past a certain limit, allowing only the super-user to use it. Not that I'm advocating that approach for ZFS. looks to me like zfs already provides a

Re: [zfs-discuss] Problems at 90% zpool capacity 2008.05

2009-01-06 Thread Orvar Korvar
It is not recommended to store more than 90% on any file system, I think. For instance, NTFS can behave very badly when it runs out of space. Similar to if you fill up your RAM and you have no swap space. Then the computer starts to thrash badly. Not recommended. Avoid 90% and above, and you

Re: [zfs-discuss] Problems at 90% zpool capacity 2008.05

2009-01-06 Thread Sam
I was hoping that this was the problem (because just buying more discs is the cheapest solution given time=$$) but running it by somebody at work they said going over 90% can cause decreased performance but is unlikely to cause the strange errors I'm seeing. However, I think I'll stick a 1TB

Re: [zfs-discuss] Problems at 90% zpool capacity 2008.05

2009-01-06 Thread Carson Gaspar
On 1/6/2009 4:19 PM, Sam wrote: I was hoping that this was the problem (because just buying more discs is the cheapest solution given time=$$) but running it by somebody at work they said going over 90% can cause decreased performance but is unlikely to cause the strange errors I'm seeing.

Re: [zfs-discuss] Problems at 90% zpool capacity 2008.05

2009-01-06 Thread Tim
On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 6:19 PM, Sam s...@smugmug.com wrote: I was hoping that this was the problem (because just buying more discs is the cheapest solution given time=$$) but running it by somebody at work they said going over 90% can cause decreased performance but is unlikely to cause the

Re: [zfs-discuss] Problems at 90% zpool capacity 2008.05

2009-01-06 Thread Nicholas Lee
Since zfs is so smart is other areas is there a particular reason why a high water mark is not calculated and the available space not reset to this? I'd far rather have a zpool of 1000GB that said it only had 900GB but did not have corruption as it ran out of space. Nicholas

Re: [zfs-discuss] Problems at 90% zpool capacity 2008.05

2009-01-06 Thread Tim
On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 10:25 PM, Nicholas Lee emptysa...@gmail.com wrote: Since zfs is so smart is other areas is there a particular reason why a high water mark is not calculated and the available space not reset to this? I'd far rather have a zpool of 1000GB that said it only had 900GB but

Re: [zfs-discuss] Problems at 90% zpool capacity 2008.05

2009-01-06 Thread JZ
. - Original Message - From: Tim To: Nicholas Lee Cc: zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org ; Sam Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 12:02 AM Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] Problems at 90% zpool capacity 2008.05 On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 10:25 PM, Nicholas Lee emptysa...@gmail.com wrote: Since

Re: [zfs-discuss] Problems at 90% zpool capacity 2008.05

2009-01-06 Thread Neil Perrin
On 01/06/09 21:25, Nicholas Lee wrote: Since zfs is so smart is other areas is there a particular reason why a high water mark is not calculated and the available space not reset to this? I'd far rather have a zpool of 1000GB that said it only had 900GB but did not have corruption as it