Re: [zfs-discuss] Supporting recordsizes larger than 128K?

2007-09-05 Thread Roch - PAE
Matty writes: Are there any plans to support record sizes larger than 128k? We use ZFS file systems for disk staging on our backup servers (compression is a nice feature here), and we typically configure the disk staging process to read and write large blocks (typically 1MB or so). This

Re: [zfs-discuss] New zfs pr0n server :)))

2007-09-05 Thread Diego Righi
The case is a Sharkoon Rebel9 (Economy edition, has no integrated fans), I bought it from an italian online store, and I think it's commercialized in Germany, it has 9 51/4 frontal slots This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss

Re: [zfs-discuss] inherit vs clone and property values.

2007-09-05 Thread Darren J Moffat
Eric Schrock wrote: Yes, this would be useful. See: 6364688 method to preserve properties when making a clone Thanks for that pointer. I'd say it should be the default - but then that was basically the topic of this thread :-) The infrastructure is all there (zfs_clone() takes an nvlist

Re: [zfs-discuss] New zfs pr0n server :)))

2007-09-05 Thread Jason
Thanks, did it come with the hardware to mount HDD's in 5.25 slots? This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss

[zfs-discuss] find on ZFS much slower than on xfs

2007-09-05 Thread Joerg Moellenkamp
Hello, in a benchmark a find to a filename (find -name foobar ) , ZFS is approx 7 times slower than an XFS filesystem (14 minutes ZFS,2 Minutes XFS). The filesystem consists out of a huge amount of files. I assume, that ZFS has no comparable function to the directory indexes like XFS or the

Re: [zfs-discuss] find on ZFS much slower than on xfs

2007-09-05 Thread Casper . Dik
Hello, in a benchmark a find to a filename (find -name foobar ) , ZFS is approx 7 times slower than an XFS filesystem (14 minutes ZFS,2 Minutes XFS). The filesystem consists out of a huge amount of files. I assume, that ZFS has no comparable function to the directory indexes like XFS or the

Re: [zfs-discuss] find on ZFS much slower than on xfs

2007-09-05 Thread Joerg Moellenkamp
Hello, in a different benchmark run on the same system, the gfind took 15 minutes whereas the standarf find took 18 minutes. With find and noatime=off the benchmark took 14 minutes. But even this is slow compared to 2-3 minutes of the xfs system. Regards Joerg [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:

Re: [zfs-discuss] find on ZFS much slower than on xfs

2007-09-05 Thread Michael Schuster
Joerg Moellenkamp wrote: Hello, in a different benchmark run on the same system, the gfind took 15 minutes whereas the standarf find took 18 minutes. With find and noatime=off the benchmark took 14 minutes. But even this is slow compared to 2-3 minutes of the xfs system. just asking the

Re: [zfs-discuss] find on ZFS much slower than on xfs

2007-09-05 Thread Joerg Schilling
Joerg Moellenkamp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, in a different benchmark run on the same system, the gfind took 15 minutes whereas the standarf find took 18 minutes. With find and noatime=off the benchmark took 14 minutes. But even this is slow compared to 2-3 minutes of the xfs

Re: [zfs-discuss] I/O freeze after a disk failure

2007-09-05 Thread Paul Kraus
On 9/4/07, Gino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yesterday we had a drive failure on a fc-al jbod with 14 drives. Suddenly the zpool using that jbod stopped to respond to I/O requests and we get tons of the following messages on /var/adm/messages: snip cfgadm -al or devfsadm -C didn't solve the

Re: [zfs-discuss] New zfs pr0n server :)))

2007-09-05 Thread Christopher Gibbs
I'm now using the CM Stacker 810 for my file server and I love it. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1689093 It comes with one 4-in-3 drive cage and has room for 2 more (3 if you remove the front I/O panel). The drive cages are excellent - mounted with rubber washers to

[zfs-discuss] Consequences of adding a root vdev later?

2007-09-05 Thread Solaris
Is it possible to force ZFS to nicely re-organize data inside a zpool after a new root level vdev has been introduced? e.g. Take a pool with 1 vdev consisting of a 2 disk mirror. Populate some arbitrary files using about 50% of the capacity. Then add another 2 mirrored disks to the pool. It

[zfs-discuss] zfs via sata controller

2007-09-05 Thread Peter Bridge
Hi All, I'm a total newbie to solaris so apologies if the answer is obvious, but google is not my friend today. I'm installing opensolaris on an intel based machine with an IDE drive for booting and 2 SATA disks that I plan to use for a ZFS based NAS. I manged to get opensolaris installed,

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs via sata controller

2007-09-05 Thread Will Murnane
On 9/5/07, Peter Bridge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1x Promise sata ii 150 TX4 That controller doesn't work with Solaris. Marvell 88sx6081s (like the Supermicro AOC-SAT2-MV8), LSI Logic controllers, and Sil3124s (from a variety of manufacturers) are. AHCI controllers like the Intel ICH series

[zfs-discuss] (politics) Sharks in the waters

2007-09-05 Thread Rob Windsor
http://news.com.com/NetApp+files+patent+suit+against+Sun/2100-1014_3-6206194.html I'm curious how many of those patent filings cover technologies that they carried over from Auspex. While it is legal for them to do so, it is a bit shady to inherit technology (two paths; employees departing

[zfs-discuss] patent fight is on its way..

2007-09-05 Thread Selim Daoud
http://www.netapp.com/go/ipsuit/spider-complaint.pdf ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/zfs-discuss

Re: [zfs-discuss] (politics) Sharks in the waters

2007-09-05 Thread Jim Mauro
About 2 years ago I was able to get a little closer to the patent litigation process, by way of giving a deposition in litigation that was filed against Sun and Apple (and has been settled). Apparently, there's an entire sub-economy built on patent litigation among the technology players.

Re: [zfs-discuss] (politics) Sharks in the waters

2007-09-05 Thread Bill Moore
On Wed, Sep 05, 2007 at 03:43:38PM -0500, Rob Windsor wrote: (No, I'm not defending Sun in it's apparent patent-growling, either, it all sucks IMO.) In contrast to the positioning by NetApp, Sun didn't start the patent fight. It was started by StorageTek, well prior to Sun's acquisition of

Re: [zfs-discuss] I/O freeze after a disk failure

2007-09-05 Thread Richard Elling
Paul Kraus wrote: On 9/4/07, Gino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yesterday we had a drive failure on a fc-al jbod with 14 drives. Suddenly the zpool using that jbod stopped to respond to I/O requests and we get tons of the following messages on /var/adm/messages: snip cfgadm -al or devfsadm

Re: [zfs-discuss] Consequences of adding a root vdev later?

2007-09-05 Thread Richard Elling
Solaris wrote: Is it possible to force ZFS to nicely re-organize data inside a zpool after a new root level vdev has been introduced? Currently, ZFS will not reorganize the existing data for such cases. You can force this to occur by copying the data and removing the old, but that seems like a

Re: [zfs-discuss] (politics) Sharks in the waters

2007-09-05 Thread Nicolas Williams
On Wed, Sep 05, 2007 at 03:43:38PM -0500, Rob Windsor wrote: http://news.com.com/NetApp+files+patent+suit+against+Sun/2100-1014_3-6206194.html I'm curious how many of those patent filings cover technologies that they carried over from Auspex. While it is legal for them to do so, it is a

Re: [zfs-discuss] (politics) Sharks in the waters

2007-09-05 Thread Joerg Schilling
Nicolas Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Sep 05, 2007 at 03:43:38PM -0500, Rob Windsor wrote: http://news.com.com/NetApp+files+patent+suit+against+Sun/2100-1014_3-6206194.html I'm curious how many of those patent filings cover technologies that they carried over from Auspex.

Re: [zfs-discuss] (politics) Sharks in the waters

2007-09-05 Thread mike
On 9/5/07, Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As I wrote before, my wofs (designed and implemented 1989-1990 for SunOS 4.0, published May 23th 1991) is copy on write based, does not need fsck and always offers a stable view on the media because it is COW. Side question: If COW is such

Re: [zfs-discuss] (politics) Sharks in the waters

2007-09-05 Thread Joerg Schilling
mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/5/07, Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As I wrote before, my wofs (designed and implemented 1989-1990 for SunOS 4.0, published May 23th 1991) is copy on write based, does not need fsck and always offers a stable view on the media because it

Re: [zfs-discuss] (politics) Sharks in the waters

2007-09-05 Thread James C. McPherson
mike wrote: On 9/5/07, Joerg Schilling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As I wrote before, my wofs (designed and implemented 1989-1990 for SunOS 4.0, published May 23th 1991) is copy on write based, does not need fsck and always offers a stable view on the media because it is COW. Side question:

[zfs-discuss] ZFS/WAFL lawsuit

2007-09-05 Thread David Magda
Hello, Not sure if anyone at Sun can comment on this, but I thought it might be of interest to the list: This morning, NetApp filed an IP (intellectual property) lawsuit against Sun. It has two parts. The first is a “declaratory judgment”, asking the court to decide whether we infringe

Re: [zfs-discuss] (politics) Sharks in the waters

2007-09-05 Thread Joerg Schilling
James C. McPherson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If COW is such an old concept, why haven't there been many filesystems that have become popular that use it? ZFS, BTRFS (I think) and maybe WAFL? At least that I know of. It seems like an excellent guarantee of disk commitment, yet we're all

[zfs-discuss] cascading metadata modifications

2007-09-05 Thread Matthew Ahrens
Joerg Schilling wrote: The best documented one is the inverted meta data tree that allows wofs to write only one new generation node for one modified file while ZFS needs to also write new nodes for all directories above the file including the root directory in the fs. I believe you are

Re: [zfs-discuss] [zfs-code] DMU as general purpose transaction engine?

2007-09-05 Thread Matthew Ahrens
Atul Vidwansa wrote: ZFS Experts, Is it possible to use DMU as general purpose transaction engine? More specifically, in following order: 1. Create transaction: tx = dmu_tx_create(os); error = dmu_tx_assign(tx, TXG_WAIT) 2. Decide what to modify(say create new object):

Re: [zfs-discuss] Consequences of adding a root vdev later?

2007-09-05 Thread Bill Sommerfeld
On Wed, 2007-09-05 at 14:26 -0700, Richard Elling wrote: AFAIK, nobody has characterized resilvering, though this is about the 4th time this week someone has brought the topic up. Has anyone done work here that we don't know about? If so, please speak up :-) I haven't been conducting

[zfs-discuss] Serious ZFS problems

2007-09-05 Thread Tim Spriggs
Hello, I think I have gained sufficient fool status for testing the fool-proof-ness of zfs. I have a cluster of T1000 servers running Solaris 10 and two x4100's running an OpenSolaris dist (Nexenta) which is at b68. Each T1000 hosts several zones each of which has its own zpool associated