RE: [zfs-discuss] 3510 JBOD ZFS vs 3510 HW RAID

2006-07-31 Thread Luke Lonergan
Torrey, -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 8:32 PM You might want to check the specs of the the 3510. In some configs you only get 2 ports. However, in others you can get 8. Really? 8 active Fibre Channel ports?

Re: [zfs-discuss] 3510 JBOD ZFS vs 3510 HW RAID

2006-08-01 Thread Luke Lonergan
Torrey, On 8/1/06 10:30 AM, Torrey McMahon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.sun.com/storagetek/disk_systems/workgroup/3510/index.xml Look at the specs page. I did. This is 8 trays, each with 14 disks and two active Fibre channel attachments. That means that 14 disks, each with a

Re: [zfs-discuss] 3510 JBOD ZFS vs 3510 HW RAID

2006-08-02 Thread Luke Lonergan
Richard, On 8/2/06 11:37 AM, Richard Elling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now with thumper - you are SPoF'd on the motherboard and operating system - so you're not really getting the availability aspect from dual controllers .. but given the value - you could easily buy 2 and still come out

Re: [zfs-discuss] Home server platform

2006-08-06 Thread Luke Lonergan
David, On 8/6/06 12:08 AM, David Dyer-Bennet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, since it looks like I didn't get caught in the layoffs, I'm looking for the hardware platform to run the home disk server on. ZFS is the goal. I built a home server for about $1,200 and it's nearly silent. It's not

RE: [zfs-discuss] 3510 HW RAID vs 3510 JBOD ZFS SOFTWARE RAID

2006-08-07 Thread Luke Lonergan
Nce! Hooray ZFS! - Luke Sent from my GoodLink synchronized handheld (www.good.com) -Original Message- From: Robert Milkowski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 11:25 AM Eastern Standard Time To: zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org Subject:

RE: [zfs-discuss] Re: 3510 HW RAID vs 3510 JBOD ZFS SOFTWARE RAID

2006-08-08 Thread Luke Lonergan
Does snv44 have the ZFS fixes to the I/O scheduler, the ARC and the prefetch logic? These are great results for random I/O, I wonder how the sequential I/O looks? Of course you'll not get great results for sequential I/O on the 3510 :-) - Luke Sent from my GoodLink synchronized handheld

Re: Re[2]: [zfs-discuss] Re: 3510 HW RAID vs 3510 JBOD ZFS SOFTWARE RAID

2006-08-08 Thread Luke Lonergan
Robert, On 8/8/06 9:11 AM, Robert Milkowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1. UFS, noatime, HW RAID5 6 disks, S10U2 70MB/s 2. ZFS, atime=off, HW RAID5 6 disks, S10U2 (the same lun as in #1) 87MB/s 3. ZFS, atime=off, SW RAID-Z 6 disks, S10U2 130MB/s 4. ZFS, atime=off, SW RAID-Z 6

Re: Re[4]: [zfs-discuss] Re: 3510 HW RAID vs 3510 JBOD ZFS SOFTWARE RAID

2006-08-08 Thread Luke Lonergan
Robert, LL Most of my ZFS experiments have been with RAID10, but there were some LL massive improvements to seq I/O with the fixes I mentioned - I'd expect that LL this shows that they aren't in snv44. So where did you get those fixes? From the fine people who implemented them! As Mark

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: ZFS/Thumper experiences

2006-08-08 Thread Luke Lonergan
Jochen, On 8/8/06 10:47 AM, Jochen M. Kaiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I really appreciate such information, could you please give us some additional insight regarding your statement, that [you] tried to drive ZFS to its limit, [...] found that the results were less consistent or

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: Re[2]: Re: 3510 HW RAID vs 3510 JBOD ZFS SOFTWARE RAID

2006-08-08 Thread Luke Lonergan
Doug, On 8/8/06 10:15 AM, Doug Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I dont think there is much chance of achieving anywhere near 350MB/s. That is a hell of a lot of IO/s for 6 disks+raid(5/Z)+shared fibre. While you can always get very good results from a single disk IO, your percentage gain is

Re: [zfs-discuss] ?: experience with MySQL 5 on ZFS

2006-08-10 Thread Luke Lonergan
Steffen, On 8/10/06 8:12 AM, Steffen Weiberle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Those are compelling numbers! Have you seen them yourself? Or know who has? O'Reilly Research is a good one, they were using MySQL for data mining work and each query was taking 10 hours, despite all tuning on modern

Re: [zfs-discuss] Niagara and ZFS compression?

2006-08-20 Thread Luke Lonergan
Matthew, On 8/20/06 6:20 PM, Matthew Ahrens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This was not the design, we're working on fixing this bug so that many threads will be used to do the compression. Is this also true of decompression? - Luke ___ zfs-discuss

RE: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Performance Question

2006-10-31 Thread Luke Lonergan
Robert, I belive it's not solved yet but you may want to try with latest nevada and see if there's a difference. It's fixed in the upcoming Solaris 10 U3 and also in Solaris Express post build 47 I think. - Luke ___ zfs-discuss mailing list

Re: Re[2]: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Performance Question

2006-10-31 Thread Luke Lonergan
Robert, On 10/31/06 3:12 PM, Robert Milkowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Almost definitely not true. I did some simple test today with U3 beta on thumper and still can observe jumping writes with sequential 'dd'. We crossed posts. There are some firmware issues with the Hitachi disks that

Re: Re[2]: [zfs-discuss] Re: ZFS Performance Question

2006-10-31 Thread Luke Lonergan
Robert, On 10/31/06 3:55 PM, Robert Milkowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Right now with S10U3 beta with over 40 disks I can get only about 1.6GB/s peak. That's decent - is that the number reported by zpool iostat? In that case then I think 1GB = 1024^4, my GB measurements are roughly billion

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS Performance Question

2006-11-02 Thread Luke Lonergan
Roch, On 11/2/06 12:51 AM, Roch - PAE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This one is not yet fixed : 6415647 Sequential writing is jumping Yep - I mistook this one for another problem with drive firmware on pre-revenue units. Since Robert has a customer release X4500 it doesn't have the firmware

Re: [zfs-discuss] Re: ZFS Usage in Warehousing (lengthy intro)

2006-12-09 Thread Luke Lonergan
Anton, On 12/8/06 7:18 AM, Anton B. Rang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If your database performance is dominated by sequential reads, ZFS may not be the best solution from a performance perspective. Because ZFS uses a write-anywhere layout, any database table which is being updated will quickly

Re: [zfs-discuss] Solaris 10 11/06

2006-12-28 Thread Luke Lonergan
Thanks for all the hard work on ZFS performance fixes George! U3 works great. - Luke On 12/28/06 9:18 AM, George Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now that Solaris 10 11/06 is available, I wanted to post the complete list of ZFS features and bug fixes that were included in that release. I'm

RE: [zfs-discuss] RACF: SunFire x4500 Thumper Evaluation

2007-02-11 Thread Luke Lonergan
Has someone e-mailed the author to recommend upgrading to S10U3? I'm shocked the eval was favorable with S10U2 given S10U3's substantial performance improvements... - Luke Rayson Ho wrote: Interesting... http://www.rhic.bnl.gov/RCF/LiaisonMeeting/20070118/Other/thumper-eva l.pdf

Re: [zfs-discuss] Fileserver performance tests

2007-10-10 Thread Luke Lonergan
Hi Eric, On 10/10/07 12:50 AM, eric kustarz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since you were already using filebench, you could use the 'singlestreamwrite.f' and 'singlestreamread.f' workloads (with nthreads set to 20, iosize set to 128k) to achieve the same things. Yes but once again we see the

Re: [zfs-discuss] Performance with Sun StorageTek 2540

2008-02-15 Thread Luke Lonergan
Hi Bob, I¹m assuming you¹re measuring sequential write speed ­ posting the iozone results would help guide the discussion. For the configuration you describe, you should definitely be able to sustain 200 MB/s write speed for a single file, single thread due to your use of 4Gbps Fibre Channel

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS fragmentation with MySQL databases

2008-11-22 Thread Luke Lonergan
ZFS works marvelously well for data warehouse and analytic DBs. For lots of small updates scattered across the breadth of the persistent working set, it's not going to work well IMO. Note that we're using ZFS to host databases as large as 10,000 TB - that's 10PB (!!). Solaris 10 U5 on X4540.

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS fragmentation with MySQL databases

2008-11-22 Thread Luke Lonergan
rarely if ever' kind of workloads. - Luke - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Luke Lonergan Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]; zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org Sent: Sat Nov 22 20:28:54 2008 Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS