Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs on ssd

2009-12-11 Thread Miles Nordin
sh == Seth Heeren s...@zfs-fuse.net writes: sh If you don't want/need log or cache, disable these? You might sh want to run your ZIL (slog) on ramdisk. seems quite silly. why would you do that instead of just disabling the ZIL? I guess it would give you a way to disable it pool-wide

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs on ssd

2009-12-11 Thread Bill Sommerfeld
On Fri, 2009-12-11 at 13:49 -0500, Miles Nordin wrote: sh == Seth Heeren s...@zfs-fuse.net writes: sh If you don't want/need log or cache, disable these? You might sh want to run your ZIL (slog) on ramdisk. seems quite silly. why would you do that instead of just disabling the

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs on ssd

2009-12-11 Thread Neil Perrin
On 12/11/09 14:56, Bill Sommerfeld wrote: On Fri, 2009-12-11 at 13:49 -0500, Miles Nordin wrote: sh == Seth Heeren s...@zfs-fuse.net writes: sh If you don't want/need log or cache, disable these? You might sh want to run your ZIL (slog) on ramdisk. seems quite silly. why would you

[zfs-discuss] zfs on ssd

2009-12-05 Thread Selim Daoud
I was wondering if there were work done in the area of zfs configuration running out of 100% SSD disks. L2ARC and ZIL have been designed as a way to improve long seek times/latencies of rotational disks. now if we use only SSD (F5100 or F20) as back end drives for zfs, we should not need those

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs on ssd

2009-12-05 Thread anurag
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Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs on ssd

2009-12-05 Thread Seth Heeren
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Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs on ssd

2009-12-05 Thread Neil Perrin
On 12/05/09 01:36, anu...@kqinfotech.com wrote: Hi, What you say is probably right with respect to L2ARC, but logging (ZIL or database log) is required for consistency purpose. No, the ZIL is not required for consistency. The pool is fully consistent without the ZIL. See

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs on ssd

2009-12-05 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Sat, 5 Dec 2009, Seth Heeren wrote: in the same way, I guess, when running an OS on a SSD boot disk, should we still need the same memory swapping mechanisms as we do today, considering that in that case, the swap device is (nearly) as fast as memory itself. Is it? I think that when you

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs on ssd

2009-12-05 Thread Andrew Gabriel
Bob Friesenhahn wrote: The interesting thing for the future will be non-volatile main memory, with the primary concern being how to firewall damage due to a bug. You would be able to turn your computer off and back on and be working again almost instantaneously. Some of us are old enough

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs on ssd

2009-12-05 Thread Richard Elling
On Dec 5, 2009, at 8:09 AM, Andrew Gabriel wrote: Bob Friesenhahn wrote: The interesting thing for the future will be non-volatile main memory, with the primary concern being how to firewall damage due to a bug. You would be able to turn your computer off and back on and be working again

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs on ssd

2009-12-05 Thread Seth Heeren
Bob Friesenhahn wrote: On Sat, 5 Dec 2009, Seth Heeren wrote: in the same way, I guess, when running an OS on a SSD boot disk, should we still need the same memory swapping mechanisms as we do today, considering that in that case, the swap device is (nearly) as fast as memory itself. Is it?

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs on ssd

2009-12-05 Thread Seth Heeren
Colin Raven wrote: On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 17:43, Seth Heeren s...@zfs-fuse.net mailto:s...@zfs-fuse.net wrote: Bob Friesenhahn wrote: On Sat, 5 Dec 2009, Seth Heeren wrote: in the same way, I guess, when running an OS on a SSD boot disk, should we still need the