[zfs-discuss] Custom Jumpstart and RAID-10 ZFS rpool

2008-10-29 Thread Stephen Le
Is it possible to create a custom Jumpstart profile to install Nevada on a RAID-10 rpool? From the ZFS Boot FAQ [1], you can create a profile to install Nevada with a RAID-1 rpool using the following line: pool newpool auto auto auto mirror c0t0d0s0 c0t1d0s0 Is there an equivalent line for

Re: [zfs-discuss] Custom Jumpstart and RAID-10 ZFS rpool

2008-10-29 Thread Ian Collins
Stephen Le wrote: Is it possible to create a custom Jumpstart profile to install Nevada on a RAID-10 rpool? No, simple mirrors only. -- Ian. ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [zfs-discuss] [osol-bugs] what's the story wtih bug #6592835?

2008-10-29 Thread Nils Goroll
Hi Graham, (this message was posed on opensolaris-bugs initially, I am CC'ing and reply-to'ing zfs-discuss as it seems to be a more appropriate place to discuss this.) I'm surprised to see that the status of bug 6592835 hasn't moved beyond yes that's a problem. My understanding is that the

Re: [zfs-discuss] diagnosing read performance problem

2008-10-29 Thread Matt Harrison
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 05:30:55PM -0700, Nigel Smith wrote: Hi Matt. Ok, got the capture and successfully 'unzipped' it. (Sorry, I guess I'm using old software to do this!) I see 12840 packets. The capture is a TCP conversation between two hosts using the SMB aka CIFS protocol.

Re: [zfs-discuss] HELP! SNV_97, 98, 99 zfs with iscsitadm and VMWare!

2008-10-29 Thread Nigel Smith
Hi Tano Great to hear that you've now got this working!! I understand you are using a Broadcom network card, from your previous posts I can see you are using the 'bnx' driver. I will raise this as a bug, but first please would you run '/usr/X11/bin/scanpci' to indentify the exact 'vendor id'

Re: [zfs-discuss] diagnosing read performance problem

2008-10-29 Thread Matt Harrison
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 05:45:48PM -0700, Richard Elling wrote: I replied to Matt directly, but didn't hear back. It may be a driver issue with checksum offloading. Certainly the symptoms are consistent. To test with a workaround see http://bugs.opensolaris.org/view_bug.do?bug_id=6686415

Re: [zfs-discuss] Cannot remove slog device from zpool

2008-10-29 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello Neil, Tuesday, October 28, 2008, 10:34:28 PM, you wrote: NP However, we wanted to make sure it fit into the framework for NP the removal of any device. This a much harder problem which we NP have made progress, but it's not there yet... I think a lot of people here would be interested in

Re: [zfs-discuss] [osol-bugs] what's the story wtih bug #6592835?

2008-10-29 Thread Graham McArdle
Hi Nils, thanks for the detailed info. I've tried searching the zfs-discuss archive for both the bug id and 'resilver', but in both cases the only result I can find from the whole history is this thread: http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?messageID=276358#276358 Maybe the discussions

Re: [zfs-discuss] Lost Disk Space

2008-10-29 Thread Turanga Leela
No takers? :) benr. I'm quite curious about finding out about this too, to be honest :) And its not just ZFS on Solaris because I've filled up and imported pools into ZFS Fuse 0.5.0 (which is based on the latest ZFS code) in Linux, and on FreeBSD too. -- This message posted from

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS + OpenSolaris for home NAS?

2008-10-29 Thread Martti Kuparinen
Bob Friesenhahn wrote: AMD Athelon/Opteron dual core likely matches or exceeds Intel quad core for ZFS use due to a less bottlenecked memory channel. How big is the difference? Does anyone have benchmarking results (maybe even when using ZFS on Solaris 10)? Martti

Re: [zfs-discuss] Strange result when syncing between SPARC and x86

2008-10-29 Thread Turanga Leela
Example is: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ls -la /data/zones/testfs/root/etc/services lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 Oct 13 14:35 /data/zones/testfs/root/etc/services - ./inet/services [EMAIL PROTECTED] ls -la /data/zones/testfs/root/etc/services lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS + OpenSolaris for home NAS?

2008-10-29 Thread gm_sjo
Out of interest, and reasonably on-topic, can anyone predict performance comparison (CIFS) between these two setups? 1) Dedicated Windows 2003 Server, Intel hardware SATA RAID controller (single raid 5 array, 8 disks) 2) OpenSolaris+ZFS+CIFS, 8 drives with a SuperMicro controller

Re: [zfs-discuss] [osol-bugs] what's the story wtih bug #6592835?

2008-10-29 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Wed, 29 Oct 2008, Nils Goroll wrote: My understanding is that the resilver speed is tied to fact that the currenct resilver implementation follows the ZFS on disk structures, which needs random-like I/O operations while a traditional RAID rebuild issues sequential I/O only. Simply put, the

Re: [zfs-discuss] [osol-bugs] what's the story wtih bug #6592835?

2008-10-29 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Wed, 29 Oct 2008, Graham McArdle wrote: Maybe the discussions you recall aren't fully indexed for searching on these keywords or they were in another forum, but thanks for giving me the gist of it. It is potentially quite an Achilles heel for ZFS though. I've argued locally to migrate

Re: [zfs-discuss] Custom Jumpstart and RAID-10 ZFS rpool

2008-10-29 Thread Kyle McDonald
Ian Collins wrote: Stephen Le wrote: Is it possible to create a custom Jumpstart profile to install Nevada on a RAID-10 rpool? No, simple mirrors only. Though a finish sscript could add additional simple mirrors to create the config his example would have created. Pretty sure

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS + OpenSolaris for home NAS?

2008-10-29 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Wed, 29 Oct 2008, Martti Kuparinen wrote: Bob Friesenhahn wrote: AMD Athelon/Opteron dual core likely matches or exceeds Intel quad core for ZFS use due to a less bottlenecked memory channel. How big is the difference? Does anyone have benchmarking results (maybe even when using ZFS on

Re: [zfs-discuss] Strange result when syncing between SPARC and x86

2008-10-29 Thread Mike Futerko
Hi [EMAIL PROTECTED] ls -la /data/zones/testfs/root/etc/services lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 Oct 13 14:35 /data/zones/testfs/root/etc/services - ./inet/services [EMAIL PROTECTED] ls -la /data/zones/testfs/root/etc/services lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 Oct 13 14:35

Re: [zfs-discuss] Hotplug issues on USB removable media.

2008-10-29 Thread Ross
I don't remember anyone saying they couldn't be stored, just that if they are stored it's not ZFS' fault if they go corrupt as it's outside of its control. I'm actually planning to store the zfs send dump on external USB devices myself, but since the USB device will be running on ZFS I expect

Re: [zfs-discuss] diagnosing read performance problem

2008-10-29 Thread Richard Elling
Matt Harrison wrote: On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 05:45:48PM -0700, Richard Elling wrote: I replied to Matt directly, but didn't hear back. It may be a driver issue with checksum offloading. Certainly the symptoms are consistent. To test with a workaround see

Re: [zfs-discuss] Hotplug issues on USB removable media.

2008-10-29 Thread Niall Power
However, I don't think that's what they're talking about here. I think they're talking about a ZFS pool that consists of an external USB device, and doing a send / receive directly to that pool. That way the USB device is a true backup copy of your ZFS pool, and I think the idea is that

Re: [zfs-discuss] Performance with tens of thousands of zfs filesystems

2008-10-29 Thread Al Hopper
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 9:27 AM, Morten-Christian Bernson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have been reading this forum for a little while, and am interested in more information about the performance of ZFS when creating large amounts of filesystems. We are considering using ZFS for the user's

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS + OpenSolaris for home NAS?

2008-10-29 Thread Al Hopper
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 8:43 AM, Bob Friesenhahn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 29 Oct 2008, Martti Kuparinen wrote: Bob Friesenhahn wrote: AMD Athelon/Opteron dual core likely matches or exceeds Intel quad core for ZFS use due to a less bottlenecked memory channel. How big is the

[zfs-discuss] zfs boot / root in Nevada build 101

2008-10-29 Thread Peter Baer Galvin
This seems like a n00b question but I'm stuck. Nevada build 101. Doing fresh install (in vmware fusion). I don't see any way to select zfs as the root file system. Looks to me like UFS is the default, but I don't see any option box to allow that to be changed to zfs. What am I missing?!

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs boot / root in Nevada build 101

2008-10-29 Thread Rich Teer
On Wed, 29 Oct 2008, Peter Baer Galvin wrote: Nevada build 101. Doing fresh install (in vmware fusion). I don't see any way to select zfs as the root file system. Looks to me like UFS is the default, but I don't see any option box to allow that to be changed to zfs. What am I missing?!

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs boot / root in Nevada build 101

2008-10-29 Thread Daryl Doami
Hi Peter, It's there, you just can't use the GUI installer. You have to choose the text interactive installer. It'll give you the choice there. Regards. Original Message Subject: [zfs-discuss] zfs boot / root in Nevada build 101 From: Peter Baer Galvin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs boot / root in Nevada build 101

2008-10-29 Thread Cindy . Swearingen
Hi Peter, You need to select the text-mode install option to select a ZFS root file system. Other ZFS root installation tips are described here: http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/817-2271/zfsboot-1?a=view I'll be attending Richard Elling's ZFS workshop at LISA08. Hope to see you. :-) Cindy

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs boot / root in Nevada build 101

2008-10-29 Thread Glenn Lagasse
* Peter Baer Galvin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: This seems like a n00b question but I'm stuck. Nevada build 101. Doing fresh install (in vmware fusion). I don't see any way to select zfs as the root file system. Looks to me like UFS is the default, but I don't see any option box to allow that

Re: [zfs-discuss] [osol-bugs] what's the story wtih bug #6592835?

2008-10-29 Thread Graham McArdle
We have a 24-disk server, so the current design is 2-disk root mirror and 2x 11-disk RAIDZ2 vdevs. I suppose another solution could have been to have 3x 7-disk vdevs plus a hot spare, but the capacity starts to get compromised. Using 1TB disks in our current config will give us growth capacity

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs boot / root in Nevada build 101

2008-10-29 Thread Peter Baer Galvin
Ah, thanks much all! Cindy I'll try to hit the Elling talk too but my time in San Diego will be short, unfortunately. I'll keep an eye out for you... -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs boot / root in Nevada build 101

2008-10-29 Thread Peter Baer Galvin
Just occurred to me that S10U6 won't support ZFS root install via the GUI either? That will be confusing... -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [zfs-discuss] diagnosing read performance problem

2008-10-29 Thread Nigel Smith
Hi Matt Can you just confirm if that Ethernet capture file, that you made available, was done on the client, or on the server. I'm beginning to suspect you did it on the client. You can get a capture file on the server (OpenSolaris) using the 'snoop' command, as per one of my previous emails.

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs boot / root in Nevada build 101

2008-10-29 Thread Peter Baer Galvin
Rats, text install hangs after printing out that very early set of ... More debugging...or I could wait for S10U6... -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs boot / root in Nevada build 101

2008-10-29 Thread Cindy . Swearingen
Good point and we've tried to document this issue all over the place and will continue to publicize this fact. With the new ZFS boot and install features, it is a good idea to read the docs first. Tell you friends. I will send out a set of s10 10/08 doc pointers as soon as they are available.

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS + OpenSolaris for home NAS?

2008-10-29 Thread Richard Elling
Al Hopper wrote: On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 8:43 AM, Bob Friesenhahn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 29 Oct 2008, Martti Kuparinen wrote: Bob Friesenhahn wrote: AMD Athelon/Opteron dual core likely matches or exceeds Intel quad core for ZFS use due to a less bottlenecked

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs boot / root in Nevada build 101

2008-10-29 Thread Vincent Fox
Dunno about the text installer mentioned in other replies as I never use it. JumpStart installs working fine though with ZFS root. I am also in finish script pre-creating some additional filesystems etc. -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS + OpenSolaris for home NAS?

2008-10-29 Thread Rob Logan
ECC? $60 unbuffered 4GB 800MHz DDR2 ECC CL5 DIMM (Kit Of 2) http://www.provantage.com/kingston-technology-kvr800d2e5k2-4g~7KIN90H4.htm for Intel 32x0 north bridge like http://www.provantage.com/supermicro-x7sbe~7SUPM11K.htm ___ zfs-discuss mailing

Re: [zfs-discuss] Hotplug issues on USB removable media.

2008-10-29 Thread Miles Nordin
r == Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: r I don't remember anyone saying they couldn't be stored, just r that if they are stored it's not ZFS' fault if they go corrupt r as it's outside of its control. they can't be stored because they ``go corrupt'' in a transactional

Re: [zfs-discuss] Custom Jumpstart and RAID-10 ZFS rpool

2008-10-29 Thread kristof
I don't think this is possible. I already tried to add extra vdevs after install, but I got an error message telling me that multiple vdevs for rpool are not allowed. K -- This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zfs-discuss mailing list

Re: [zfs-discuss] Custom Jumpstart and RAID-10 ZFS rpool

2008-10-29 Thread Kyle McDonald
kristof wrote: I don't think this is possible. I already tried to add extra vdevs after install, but I got an error message telling me that multiple vdevs for rpool are not allowed. K Oh. Ok. Good to know. I always put all my 'data' diskspace in a separate pool anyway to make

Re: [zfs-discuss] HELP! SNV_97, 98, 99 zfs with iscsitadm and VMWare!

2008-10-29 Thread Miles Nordin
ns == Nigel Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ns the bnx driver is closed source :-( The GPL'd Linux driver is contributed by Broadcom: http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/stable/linux-2.6.27.y.git;a=blob;f=drivers/net/bnx2.c;h=2486a656f12d9f47ff27ead587e084a3c337a1a3;hb=HEAD and I

Re: [zfs-discuss] diagnosing read performance problem

2008-10-29 Thread Matt Harrison
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 10:01:09AM -0700, Nigel Smith wrote: Hi Matt Can you just confirm if that Ethernet capture file, that you made available, was done on the client, or on the server. I'm beginning to suspect you did it on the client. That capture was done from the client You can get a

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs boot / root in Nevada build 101

2008-10-29 Thread Peter Baer Galvin
Hi Cindy, I googled quite a lot before posting my question. This issue isn't mentioned in the ZFS boot FAQ for example or anywhere (that I saw) on the Opensolaris ZFS pages. Of course I could have read the ZFS Admin book at docs. sun.com... -- This message posted from opensolaris.org

[zfs-discuss] zfs zpool recommendation

2008-10-29 Thread Mike
Hi all, I have been asked to build a new server and would like to get some opinions on how to setup a zfs pool for the application running on the server. The server will be exclusively for running netbackup application. Now which would be better? setting up a raidz pool with 6x146gig drives

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs zpool recommendation

2008-10-29 Thread Tomas Ögren
On 29 October, 2008 - Mike sent me these 0,7K bytes: Hi all, I have been asked to build a new server and would like to get some opinions on how to setup a zfs pool for the application running on the server. The server will be exclusively for running netbackup application. Now which

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs boot / root in Nevada build 101

2008-10-29 Thread Daryl Doami
Hi Peter, It's mentioned here under Annoucements: http://opensolaris.org/os/community/zfs/boot/ It's just not very obvious. Original Message Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs boot / root in Nevada build 101 From: Peter Baer Galvin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: zfs-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [zfs-discuss] Custom Jumpstart and RAID-10 ZFS rpool

2008-10-29 Thread Lori Alt
Kyle McDonald wrote: Ian Collins wrote: Stephen Le wrote: Is it possible to create a custom Jumpstart profile to install Nevada on a RAID-10 rpool? No, simple mirrors only. Though a finish sscript could add additional simple mirrors to create the config his

[zfs-discuss] Resilvering after drive failure - keeps restarting - any guesses why/how to fix?

2008-10-29 Thread Michael Stalnaker
All; I have a large zfs tank with four raidz2 groups in it. Each of these groups is 11 disks, and I have four hot spare disks in the system. The system is running Open Solaris build snv_90. One of these groups has had a disk failure, which the OS correctly detected, and replaced with one of

Re: [zfs-discuss] Hotplug issues on USB removable media.

2008-10-29 Thread Ross
Hi Miles, I probably should have explained that storing the zfs send on a USB device is just one part of the strategy, and in fact that's just our way of getting the backup off-site. Once off-site, we do zfs receive that into another pool, and in fact we plan to have two offsite zfs pools,

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs zpool recommendation

2008-10-29 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Wed, 29 Oct 2008, Tomas Ögren wrote: The raidz option will give you more storage at less performance.. The mirror thing has the possibility of achieving higher reliability.. 1 to 3 disks can fail without interruptions, depending on how Murphy picks them.. The raidz1 one can handle 1 disk

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs zpool recommendation

2008-10-29 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Wed, 29 Oct 2008, Mike wrote: I am not seeing how using raidz would be a performance hit. Usually stripes perform faster than mirrors. The mirrors load-share and offer a lot more disk seeking capacity (more IOPS). Bob == Bob Friesenhahn [EMAIL

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs zpool recommendation

2008-10-29 Thread Scott Laird
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 3:42 PM, Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: By Better I meant the best practice for a server running the Netbackup application. I am not seeing how using raidz would be a performance hit. Usually stripes perform faster than mirrors. raidz performs reads from all devices

Re: [zfs-discuss] HELP! SNV_97, 98, 99 zfs with iscsitadm and VMWare!

2008-10-29 Thread Tano
ns I will raise this as a bug, but first please would you run '/usr/X11/bin/scanpci' to indentify the exact 'vendor id' and 'device id' for the Broadcom network chipset, and report that back here Primary network interface Embedded NIC: pci bus 0x0005 cardnum 0x00 function 0x00: vendor 0x14e4

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS + OpenSolaris for home NAS?

2008-10-29 Thread Mario Goebbels
Rob Logan wrote: ECC? $60 unbuffered 4GB 800MHz DDR2 ECC CL5 DIMM (Kit Of 2) http://www.provantage.com/kingston-technology-kvr800d2e5k2-4g~7KIN90H4.htm Geez, I have to move to the US for cheap hardware. I've paid 120€ for exactly that 4GB ECC kit (well, I bought two of these, so 240€) in

Re: [zfs-discuss] zfs shrinking swap

2008-10-29 Thread Richard Elling
Karl Rossing wrote: $zfs list NAME USED AVAIL REFER MOUNTPOINT rpool 48.4G 10.6G31K /rpool rpool/ROOT36.4G 10.6G18K /rpool/ROOT rpool/ROOT/snv_90_zfs 29.6G 10.6G 29.3G /.alt.tmp.b-Ugf.mnt/

Re: [zfs-discuss] diagnosing read performance problem

2008-10-29 Thread Nigel Smith
Hi Matt In your previous capture, (which you have now confirmed was done on the Windows client), all those 'Bad TCP checksum' packets sent by the client, are explained, because you must be doing hardware TCP checksum offloading on the client network adaptor. WireShark will capture the packets

Re: [zfs-discuss] diagnosing read performance problem

2008-10-29 Thread Matt Harrison
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 05:32:39PM -0700, Nigel Smith wrote: Hi Matt In your previous capture, (which you have now confirmed was done on the Windows client), all those 'Bad TCP checksum' packets sent by the client, are explained, because you must be doing hardware TCP checksum offloading

[zfs-discuss] Fwd: zpool import problem

2008-10-29 Thread Terry Heatlie
oops, meant to reply-all... -- Forwarded message -- From: Terry Heatlie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 8:14 PM Subject: Re: [zfs-discuss] zpool import problem To: Eric Schrock [EMAIL PROTECTED] well, this does seem to be the case: bash-3.2# dtrace -s raidz_open2.d