Re: New battery technology?

2002-09-24 Thread Lonnie Borntreger
ims 90 for some) > Lithium Ion 100-150 Wh/kg (AES claims 120) > Lithium Polymer 150-200 Wh/kg (Electrovaya claims over 200) So then why would they say that it has to get to 50Wh/kg for it to be viable for consumer EVs? It seems that 25-35 puts it equal with s

Re: New battery technology?

2002-09-23 Thread David Roden (Akron OH USA)
50-55 Wh/kg NiMH65-85 Wh/kg (Ovonics claims 90 for some) Lithium Ion 100-150 Wh/kg (AES claims 120) Lithium Polymer 150-200 Wh/kg (Electrovaya claims over 200) = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Wan

RE: New battery technology?

2002-09-24 Thread Humphrey, Timothy
65-85 Wh/kg (Ovonics claims 90 for some) > Lithium Ion 100-150 Wh/kg (AES claims 120) > Lithium Polymer 150-200 Wh/kg (Electrovaya claims over 200) So then why would they say that it has to get to 50Wh/kg for it to be viable for consumer EVs

Re: New battery technology?

2002-09-24 Thread Rich Rudman
; Advanced lead acid30-36 Wh/kg > > Standard nicad25-40 Wh/kg > > Advanced nicad50-55 Wh/kg > > NiMH 65-85 Wh/kg (Ovonics claims 90 for some) > > Lithium Ion 100-150 Wh/kg (AES claims 120) > > Lithi

EV digest 3616

2004-06-09 Thread Electric Vehicle Discussion List
t; 7) EVLN(Evader Opens Up Markets in Europe and N. America) by "EV List Editor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 8) EVLN(Electrification of transport a more practical approach) by "EV List Editor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 9) EVLN(Electrovaya Receives 2 TDS Awards)

EV digest 3636

2004-06-19 Thread Electric Vehicle Discussion List
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EV digest 5477

2006-05-13 Thread Electric Vehicle Discussion List
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 10) Re: When it rains build rainbows by "Roderick Wilde" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 11) Re: my own outlet by Lee Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 12) Re: Drill Bits for Plastics, Plexiglas, & Acyrlics by "Ted C." <[EMAIL

EV digest 4372

2005-05-20 Thread Electric Vehicle Discussion List
] > > ______ Yahoo! Mail Mobile Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/learn/mail --- End Message --- --- Begin Message --- EVLN(Maya 100 EV to Sell in Norway) [The Internet Electric Vehicle

EV digest 3597

2004-06-01 Thread Electric Vehicle Discussion List
the batteries and their > required battery management system are more expensive. > > In contrast, using a tranny, you can choose just about any size DC motor, from a compact > light weight 6.7 inch type, to an 8 inch, or for really strong power, a nine inch. Using a > tranny, you can

EV digest 4269

2005-04-11 Thread Electric Vehicle Discussion List
the batteries are easy to replace. This is an affordable vehicle at $10k Euros and should be available in the US next year I was told. I spoke with Jo Espen Bjerk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.elbilnorge.no in Oslo Norway. Vectrix had a new electric motorcycle for $8k Euro that goes 110 km p

EV digest 6370

2007-02-01 Thread Electric Vehicle Discussion List
y battery fire by "Roland Wiench" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 10) Re: Battery Beach, OJ, and Swamp Buggies by "james s" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 11) RE: 8D verses 6 Volt batteries by xx xx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 12) Re: electrovaya BEV SUV by

EV digest 3800

2004-09-16 Thread Electric Vehicle Discussion List
ust two strings of 26, but something like that.) So that brings me to 52 batteries. Any idea of how much they weigh? If I'm buying surplus, how much overage should I plan on? If I can get 50 BB600s for $450 plus a few more for $10 each, it seems like a bargain. What are the biggest holes

EV digest 6381

2007-02-04 Thread Electric Vehicle Discussion List
de? by Cor van de Water <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 7) RE: Wiring a momentary voltage doubler for a contactor - diode? by Cor van de Water <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 8) Re: electrovaya BEV SUV by "james s" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 9) Re: Please straighten me

EV digest 6396

2007-02-08 Thread Electric Vehicle Discussion List
PROTECTED]> 6) Re: I.d. that motor by "Tom Shay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 7) Re: electrovaya BEV SUV by "Matt Kenigson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 8) Re: wiring size by Eric Poulsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 9) Re: I.d. that motor

EV digest 4324

2005-04-30 Thread Electric Vehicle Discussion List
e design and development of cleaner and more fuel-efficient vehicles. We will continue to focus on developing innovative and practical technologies with minimal impact on the environment. Team Name: Toyota Motor Sales, USA Demonstration Vehicle: 2005 Highlander HEV: Gasoline + Panasonic NMH

EV digest 3829

2004-09-30 Thread Electric Vehicle Discussion List
s, so 80% DOD would be 40 A-hrs. Is this number realistic? PS My big talk a while ago of a new truck hasn't happened, but I still lurk and the old truck keeps going, except the flooded's are at the end of their life. So plan for now is to try some AGMs and a Zilla 1K for a shorter but m

EV digest 3213

2003-12-10 Thread Electric Vehicle Discussion List
arator/electrolyte material for making Li-polymer cells safer without liquid electrolyte, and phosphate based cathode materials that are more stable than Lithium-metal-oxide cathodes (where the metal is Cobalt, Manganese, and/or Nickel) and can be used in any kind of Li-ion cell (liquid or polymer ele

EV digest 5453

2006-05-06 Thread Electric Vehicle Discussion List
iability. 10 chargers have 10 times the parts, and so 1/10th the reliability. A typical consumer-grade charger (like a $50 12v 15amp charger) is only built to be used a few times a year. It would last 10 years that way. But if you tried using 10 of them every day, you could have one fail every few months. The real problem comes when you drive off in the morning not knowing that one

EV digest 3799

2004-09-15 Thread Electric Vehicle Discussion List
mention that a light-duty truck can pull a heavy load also! I've used the electric truck to pull the car hauler (which weighs one ton), with a full-size pickup on it. More recently I have been cleaning up our property by hauling stuff away using the utility trailer, and bringing home up to

EV digest 5401

2006-04-24 Thread Electric Vehicle Discussion List
and a demonstrated efficiency of over 130 mpg. Woodstock, #19 St. Mark's EV Club St. Mark's School, Southborough, MA Woodstock is a true Zero Emission Vehicle. The yellow Ford Ranger 4 X 4 was converted to run on battery power by St. Mark's School students Its batt

EV digest 4288

2005-04-17 Thread Electric Vehicle Discussion List
Viking 32 Washington 23 Western Washington U. Hybrid Club Purpose-built HEV: Biodiesel + SAFT NMH Viking 23 Washington CATEGORY: BATTERY ELECTRIC VEHICLES Veh# Participant-Team Name Year/Make

EV digest 3527

2004-05-06 Thread Electric Vehicle Discussion List
1994 Geo Metro conversion Electric (Battery: GNB PbA) PROTOTYPE/ ONE-OF-A-KIND VEHICLES (Independent Teams) 19 Maya-100 Electrovaya, Ontario Canada http://www.electrovaya.com/ 2002 Tracker conversi

EV digest 3859

2004-10-18 Thread Electric Vehicle Discussion List
back up? I know it isn't difficult to build such a device, but I was wondering if anyone sold a product that is effective for this purpose. Inexpensive price tag is (of course) a plus. Thanks all! -Ken Trough Admin - V is for Voltage Megasite http://visforvoltage.com AIM - ktrough FAX - 801

EV digest 3589

2004-05-27 Thread Electric Vehicle Discussion List
he Battery-Electric Vehicle category and received a cash award from the Advanced Lead Acid Battery Consortium. The team used an Eagle Picher lead acid battery. In the Solar-Electric Vehicle category, the University of Maine took first place with its two-person vehicle while Cato-Meridian Hi

EV digest 3492

2004-04-26 Thread Electric Vehicle Discussion List
ogen + NiMH (Hybrid) Category: Batery-Electric Vehicles PROTOTYPE/ ONE-OF-A-KIND VEHICLES (Student Teams) 16 The Olympian The Pirates (Cinaminson High School), New Jersey 1986 Ford Escort conversion Electric (Battery: GNB

EV digest 6316

2007-01-18 Thread Electric Vehicle Discussion List
;) provided for my ADC8" motor is lined with a spongy material perhaps 1/8" thick. You might inquire with the vendor of the 6.7" and 8" clamps you are considering to see if they can be used with your 7.2" motor or not. I would expect that an 8" clamp could always be used pro

EV digest 5460

2006-05-08 Thread Electric Vehicle Discussion List
Haven ME CATEGORY: SOLAR-ASSISTED ELECTRIC VEHICLES Vehicle # Participant-Team Name Make/Model Propulsion System & Fuel Vehicle Name City State STUDENT DIVISION: One-person light-duty vehicles 17 Penn Solar

EV digest 2817

2003-05-29 Thread Electric Vehicle Discussion List
.. Rich, was a DC rated fuse on the input the only thing needed for the PFC-20/50 to run off DC? Any reason you couldn't just give a recommended part number for people to buy, or is there more to it? One issue would be the initial state of charge. If the batteries arrive mostly char

EV digest 6364

2007-01-30 Thread Electric Vehicle Discussion List
20) Re: my battery fire by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 21) Where did the RAV4 go? by Christopher Zach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 22) Re: Discharged (used) Batteries by "Darin - MetroMPG.com" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 23) Re: my battery fire by JS <[EMAIL PROTECTED

EV digest 5823

2006-09-02 Thread Electric Vehicle Discussion List
p;vertical=TOOL&subcat=Sockets&BV_UseBVCookie=Yes it's called a "Gator Grips universal socket" and costs $10 -- If you send email to me, or the EVDL, that has > 4 lines of legalistic junk at the end; then you are specifically authorizing me to do whatever I wish with the m

EV digest 5618

2006-07-04 Thread Electric Vehicle Discussion List
being a "city car" that was marginal getting on the freeway. Due to the 6 milliohm internal resistance, I think these things will be marginal getting on the freeway below 50% SOC anyhow. > I'm not sure what you mean by thermal stability. Could you post some more information?

EV digest 4300

2005-04-21 Thread Electric Vehicle Discussion List
sed. > You are missing some very simple and obvious things. First, let me repeat > what Marc said -- the part that you are so critical of -- and add my own > emphasis, for effect: > > "... unlike ALMOST EVERY OTHER BATTERY ON THE MARKET today, I've heard > that > you

EV digest 4343

2005-05-06 Thread Electric Vehicle Discussion List
axi prototype for NYC - by AFTCO and Advanced Energy Conversions -New Emission reduction technology for trucks and buses - by Donaldson Co Inc. and Cummins Northeast -Idle emission reduction through electrification ­ the MorElectric Truck by Caterpillar -Hybrid delivery vehicle - from Fe

EV digest 4452

2005-06-23 Thread Electric Vehicle Discussion List
ng problems. I was hoping to replace my ye-ol floodie affliction but was underwelmed by the Ni-cads. They had an autowatering system, but occasionally one cell wouldn't fill up and you wouldn't know it. I would have bought them if they had cell level indicators, but this is a fundem

EV digest 3860

2004-10-19 Thread Electric Vehicle Discussion List
ubject: Re: EV for sale yet? > Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 09:55:02 -0400 > > Dear Sherry, > > Thank you very much for your email. Due to a > computer problem I'm not sure > if this is a delayed reply or hopefully only a > duplicate. My apologies > either way. > > Atta

EV digest 3170

2003-11-12 Thread Electric Vehicle Discussion List
Phone: (509) 624-0762 President, Commuter Cars Corporation Toll-free: (800) 468-0944 Doubling the capacity of freeways Fax: (509) 624-1466 Quadrupling the capacity of parking Cellular: (509) 979-1815 Zero to 60 in under 4 seconds 715 E. Sprag

EV digest 3177

2003-11-15 Thread Electric Vehicle Discussion List
lightnin' ! Lets start with beefy 120/240 outlets in rest areas and even Restaurants could join in and put that on their sign on the hiway! Shopping Mauls, stuff like that so you could fritter your time away while the car feeds. Hmmm? Sorta like CA has done? Chargin' avalable 24/7 h

EV digest 4976

2005-12-09 Thread Electric Vehicle Discussion List
days compared to 5 years ago. Consortium, on top of Focus Group, on top of Legislative lobbying , on top of real world popularity of the various (as they are called lite – Hybrids) and 30,000 little GEM Bubble cars ! Everyone at the conference, from manufacturer, to supplier, to environmenta

EV digest 4298

2005-04-21 Thread Electric Vehicle Discussion List
ng. My goal is to get 20V @ 5A or 100W. I will have mount it higher to clear the neighbor's trees and I will have to switch to some better blades. Ed Ang --- Ryan Stotts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mike Golub wrote: > > > You got a picture of your human powered generat

EV digest 4336

2005-05-04 Thread Electric Vehicle Discussion List
simply revved the motor to help. Worked then & it will work now. > Lawrence > Rhodes > > --- End Message --- --- Begin Message --- I'm not sure about the contrast ratio of these, but they're supposedly made for vehicle application. They also have a built in USB touch

EV digest 4342

2005-05-06 Thread Electric Vehicle Discussion List
the Hall of Springs 5:00 pmSaratoga's Spring Auto Show closes 5:30 pmAutocross event in SPAC E50 Parking Lot Exhibit Highlights: Monte Carlo-style Rally & 100-MPG Challenge: Dozens of owners of hybrid cars and diesel vehicles that run on biodiesel have driven their cars

EV digest 4553

2005-08-03 Thread Electric Vehicle Discussion List
mlerChrysler is reportedly tinkering with the idea of plug-in hybrids. Toyota, quite understandably, is hostile to the idea of consumers modifying their Prius hybrids, citing potential safety risks, high costs, and warning that such actions will void the manufacturer's warranty. "Toyota i

EV digest 2565

2003-01-30 Thread Electric Vehicle Discussion List
! No wonder the kids grow up without parents! They both > hafta work, work, work, to pay the mortgage AND the heating bills for these > palaces. Show show show,"Look at me look at me NOW! " said the Cat in the > Hat, , 3 car garage for the SUV and Mercedes or Porsche. Gotta remem

EV digest 2889

2003-06-30 Thread Electric Vehicle Discussion List
hicles are interesting. But the place the hydrogens have a problem at the moment is the same place that the EVs had a problem. The storage is pretty limited. It can be cost effective if you use a very high pressure tank. If you work out how much hydrogen you can put in a 5,000 PSI tank such

EV digest 3634

2004-06-18 Thread Electric Vehicle Discussion List
- From: steves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 11:41 AM Subject: Re: (ET) Power of DC at Hagerstown > I was planning on going, but I have at least two other things that I have to > attend. If you haven't gone, it's pretty interes

EV digest 3806

2004-09-19 Thread Electric Vehicle Discussion List
, but this is America. We pretend Ben Franklin was right, and that > electrical current flows from + to -. > -- > "Never doubt that the work of a small group of thoughtful, committed > citizens can change the world. Indeed, it's the only thing that ever > has!" -- Mar

EV digest 3856

2004-10-17 Thread Electric Vehicle Discussion List
g to the one to beat the requirements and have the highest ratings, with proof of its mass production price tag as determined by a set of criteria that would be modelled. Given the 70 MPH Jester EV by Greener Energy with 150-200 miles range and having a $25,000-ish price tag if made in volumes of 50 o

EV digest 3175

2003-11-13 Thread Electric Vehicle Discussion List
not see any recommendations for free pedal travel > setting being more than 1/4 inch. Is there some reason that disk brake systems on cars newer than 2000 would have different pedal free play requirements? The vehicles I have manuals for are older than that, but I can certainly check them tonig

EV digest 3197

2003-11-30 Thread Electric Vehicle Discussion List
; electric to demonstrate how cheap EVs could be to make, > considering if they are competitive hand-made with volume > cars, then they could be even more so with mass produced > parts and car. > > Also, a little bit about myself. If I sound like some naive > kid, well, that'

EV digest 4650

2005-09-02 Thread Electric Vehicle Discussion List
d electric mode to achieve conventional range of operation, according to Raser. Raser's partners in the consortium thus far are San Diego-based energy storage and power delivery solutions provider Maxwell Technologies, Toronto-based mobile power technology provider Electrovaya Inc. and an unnamed S

EV digest 4299

2005-04-21 Thread Electric Vehicle Discussion List
--- Begin Message --- Charles and anybody else If in some way I have offended you by expressing my opinion, then I apologize, but not for my opinion, which I still hold, despite your lengthy post. I apologize for offending you. I don't in any way want to start a flame war. My objective is to com

EV digest 3196

2003-11-29 Thread Electric Vehicle Discussion List
at they are slow, cannot go far, take long to charge, just move emissions to the plant, are expensive, have to be compact in size, have batteries that don't last long, using EVs would drain our power grid, and hydrogen fuel cells are superior. The TZero, NEDRA cars, electric Lotus Elise, and

EV digest 4186

2005-03-16 Thread Electric Vehicle Discussion List
27; ~/__|o\__ '@- @'---(= . http://geocities.com/brucedp/ . EV List Editor, RE & AFV newswires . (originator of the above ASCII art) = Undo Petroleum Everywhere __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new re

EV digest 3211

2003-12-09 Thread Electric Vehicle Discussion List
last night. Brain Tumor. > > If you need me I will be on the cell. But not here waiting for orders > > and support calls. > > Rich Rudman > > Manzanita Micro > > www.manzanitamicro.com > > 1-360-297-7383,Cell 1-360-620-6266 Condolences in your and your wife