ims 90 for some)
> Lithium Ion 100-150 Wh/kg (AES claims 120)
> Lithium Polymer 150-200 Wh/kg (Electrovaya claims over 200)
So then why would they say that it has to get to 50Wh/kg for it to be
viable for consumer EVs? It seems that 25-35 puts it equal with s
50-55 Wh/kg
NiMH65-85 Wh/kg (Ovonics claims 90 for some)
Lithium Ion 100-150 Wh/kg (AES claims 120)
Lithium Polymer 150-200 Wh/kg (Electrovaya claims over 200)
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
Wan
65-85 Wh/kg (Ovonics claims 90 for some)
> Lithium Ion 100-150 Wh/kg (AES claims 120)
> Lithium Polymer 150-200 Wh/kg (Electrovaya claims over 200)
So then why would they say that it has to get to 50Wh/kg for it to be
viable for consumer EVs
; Advanced lead acid30-36 Wh/kg
> > Standard nicad25-40 Wh/kg
> > Advanced nicad50-55 Wh/kg
> > NiMH 65-85 Wh/kg (Ovonics claims 90 for some)
> > Lithium Ion 100-150 Wh/kg (AES claims 120)
> > Lithi
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batteries and their
> required battery management system are more expensive.
>
> In contrast, using a tranny, you can choose just about any size DC motor,
from a compact
> light weight 6.7 inch type, to an 8 inch, or for really strong power, a
nine inch. Using a
> tranny, you can
the batteries are easy to replace. This is
an affordable vehicle at $10k Euros and should be available in the US next year
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ust two strings of 26, but something like that.) So that brings me to 52
batteries.
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and development of cleaner and more fuel-efficient vehicles. We will
continue to focus on developing innovative and practical technologies
with minimal impact on the environment.
Team Name: Toyota Motor Sales, USA
Demonstration Vehicle: 2005 Highlander
HEV: Gasoline + Panasonic NMH
s, so 80% DOD would be 40 A-hrs. Is this
number realistic?
PS My big talk a while ago of a new truck hasn't happened, but I still
lurk and the old truck keeps going, except the flooded's are at the end
of their life. So plan for now is to try some AGMs and a Zilla 1K for a
shorter but m
arator/electrolyte material for making Li-polymer cells safer without
liquid electrolyte, and phosphate based cathode materials that are more
stable than Lithium-metal-oxide cathodes (where the metal is Cobalt,
Manganese, and/or Nickel) and can be used in any kind of Li-ion cell
(liquid or polymer ele
iability. 10 chargers have 10 times the parts, and so
1/10th the reliability.
A typical consumer-grade charger (like a $50 12v 15amp charger) is only
built to be used a few times a year. It would last 10 years that way.
But if you tried using 10 of them every day, you could have one fail
every few months.
The real problem comes when you drive off in the morning not knowing
that one
mention that a
light-duty truck can pull a heavy load also! I've used the electric truck
to pull the car hauler (which weighs one ton), with a full-size pickup on
it. More recently I have been cleaning up our property by hauling stuff
away using the utility trailer, and bringing home up to
and a demonstrated efficiency of
over 130 mpg.
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I know it isn't difficult to build such a device, but I was wondering if
anyone sold a product that is effective for this purpose. Inexpensive
price tag is (of course) a plus.
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and received a cash award from the Advanced Lead Acid Battery Consortium. The
team used an Eagle Picher lead acid battery.
In the Solar-Electric Vehicle category, the University of Maine took first
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provided for my ADC8" motor is lined with a spongy material perhaps 1/8"
thick. You might inquire with the vendor of the 6.7" and 8" clamps you
are considering to see if they can be used with your 7.2" motor or not.
I would expect that an 8" clamp could always be used pro
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Rich, was a DC rated fuse on the input the only thing needed for the
PFC-20/50 to run off DC? Any reason you couldn't just give a recommended
part number for people to buy, or is there more to it?
One issue would be the initial state of charge. If the batteries arrive
mostly char
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it's called a "Gator Grips universal socket" and costs $10
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If you send email to me, or the EVDL, that has > 4 lines of legalistic
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wish with the m
being a
"city car" that was marginal getting on the freeway.
Due to the 6 milliohm internal resistance, I think
these things will be marginal getting on the freeway
below 50% SOC anyhow.
> I'm not sure what you mean by thermal stability.
Could you post some more information?
sed.
> You are missing some very simple and obvious things. First, let me repeat
> what Marc said -- the part that you are so critical of -- and add my own
> emphasis, for effect:
>
> "... unlike ALMOST EVERY OTHER BATTERY ON THE MARKET today, I've heard
> that
> you
axi prototype for NYC - by AFTCO and Advanced Energy Conversions
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-Hybrid delivery vehicle - from Fe
ng problems. I was hoping to replace my ye-ol
floodie affliction but was underwelmed by the Ni-cads. They had an
autowatering system, but occasionally one cell wouldn't fill up and you
wouldn't know it. I would have bought them if they had cell level
indicators, but this is a fundem
ubject: Re: EV for sale yet?
> Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 09:55:02 -0400
>
> Dear Sherry,
>
> Thank you very much for your email. Due to a
> computer problem I'm not sure
> if this is a delayed reply or hopefully only a
> duplicate. My apologies
> either way.
>
> Atta
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lightnin' ! Lets start with beefy 120/240 outlets in rest
areas and even Restaurants could join in and put that on their sign on the
hiway! Shopping Mauls, stuff like that so you could fritter your time away
while the car feeds. Hmmm? Sorta like CA has done?
Chargin' avalable 24/7 h
days compared to 5 years ago. Consortium, on top of Focus
Group, on top of Legislative lobbying , on top of real world popularity
of the various (as they are called lite – Hybrids) and 30,000 little GEM
Bubble cars !
Everyone at the conference, from manufacturer, to supplier, to
environmenta
ng. My goal is to get
20V @ 5A or 100W. I will have mount it higher to
clear the neighbor's trees and I will have to switch
to some better blades.
Ed Ang
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> > You got a picture of your human powered generat
simply revved the motor to help. Worked then & it will work now.
> Lawrence
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I'm not sure about the contrast ratio of these, but they're supposedly
made for vehicle application. They also have a built in USB touch
the Hall of Springs
5:00 pmSaratoga's Spring Auto Show closes
5:30 pmAutocross event in SPAC E50 Parking Lot
Exhibit Highlights:
Monte Carlo-style Rally & 100-MPG Challenge:
Dozens of owners of hybrid cars and diesel vehicles that run on biodiesel have
driven their cars
mlerChrysler is reportedly tinkering with the
idea of plug-in hybrids. Toyota, quite understandably, is hostile to
the idea of consumers modifying their Prius hybrids, citing potential
safety risks, high costs, and warning that such actions will void the
manufacturer's warranty.
"Toyota i
! No wonder the kids grow up without parents! They both
> hafta work, work, work, to pay the mortgage AND the heating bills for
these
> palaces. Show show show,"Look at me look at me NOW! " said the Cat in the
> Hat, , 3 car garage for the SUV and Mercedes or Porsche. Gotta remem
hicles are interesting. But the place the hydrogens have a
problem at the moment is the same place that the EVs had a problem. The
storage is pretty limited. It can be cost effective if you use a very high
pressure tank. If you work out how much hydrogen you can put in a 5,000 PSI
tank such
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Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 11:41 AM
Subject: Re: (ET) Power of DC at Hagerstown
> I was planning on going, but I have at least two other things that I
have
to
> attend. If you haven't gone, it's pretty interes
, but this is America. We pretend Ben Franklin was right, and that
> electrical current flows from + to -.
> --
> "Never doubt that the work of a small group of thoughtful, committed
> citizens can change the world. Indeed, it's the only thing that ever
> has!" -- Mar
g to the one to beat the requirements and have the
highest ratings, with proof of its mass production price tag
as determined by a set of criteria that would be modelled.
Given the 70 MPH Jester EV by Greener Energy with 150-200
miles range and having a $25,000-ish price tag if made in
volumes of 50 o
not see any recommendations for free pedal travel
> setting being more than 1/4 inch.
Is there some reason that disk brake systems on cars newer than 2000
would have different pedal free play requirements? The vehicles I have
manuals for are older than that, but I can certainly check them tonig
; electric to demonstrate how cheap EVs could be to make,
> considering if they are competitive hand-made with volume
> cars, then they could be even more so with mass produced
> parts and car.
>
> Also, a little bit about myself. If I sound like some naive
> kid, well, that'
d electric mode to achieve conventional
range of operation, according to Raser.
Raser's partners in the consortium thus far are San Diego-based
energy storage and power delivery solutions provider Maxwell
Technologies, Toronto-based mobile power technology provider
Electrovaya Inc. and an unnamed S
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Charles and anybody else
If in some way I have offended you by expressing my opinion, then I apologize,
but not for my opinion, which I still hold, despite your lengthy post. I
apologize for offending you. I don't in any way want to start a flame war. My
objective is to com
at they
are slow, cannot go far, take long to charge, just move
emissions to the plant, are expensive, have to be compact in
size, have batteries that don't last long, using EVs would
drain our power grid, and hydrogen fuel cells are superior.
The TZero, NEDRA cars, electric Lotus Elise, and
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> > If you need me I will be on the cell. But not here waiting for orders
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