Re: [Flightgear-devel] Suggestion to make FlightGear multiplayer compliant with HLA

2008-03-06 Thread Petr Gotthard
Hi Oliver, the HLA specifications (IEEE 1516) are not free, that's a disadvantage. However there are open-source HLA run-time environments (e.g. http://www.cert.fr/CERTI), so it's not necessary to implement whole new HLA run-time environment. Regarding the multiplayer in FlightGear I see two

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Suggestion to make FlightGear multiplayer compliant with HLA

2008-03-10 Thread Oliver Schroeder
Hi Petr. Am Donnerstag 06 März 2008 14:50 schrieb Petr Gotthard: Hi Oliver, the HLA specifications (IEEE 1516) are not free, that's a disadvantage. However there are open-source HLA run-time environments (e.g. http://www.cert.fr/CERTI), so it's not necessary to implement whole new HLA run

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Suggestion to make FlightGear multiplayer compliant with HLA

2008-03-07 Thread Ampere K.
On March 7, 2008 02:53:32 pm Ampere K. wrote: On March 6, 2008 08:50:46 am Petr Gotthard wrote: Hi Oliver, the HLA specifications (IEEE 1516) are not free, that's a disadvantage. However there are open-source HLA run-time environments (e.g. http://www.cert.fr/CERTI), so it's not necessary

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Suggestion to make FlightGear multiplayer compliant with HLA

2008-03-07 Thread Ampere K.
On March 6, 2008 08:50:46 am Petr Gotthard wrote: Hi Oliver, the HLA specifications (IEEE 1516) are not free, that's a disadvantage. However there are open-source HLA run-time environments (e.g. http://www.cert.fr/CERTI), so it's not necessary to implement whole new HLA run-time environment

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Enabling HLA - missing RTI.hh

2011-10-24 Thread Geoff McLane
? libHLA is part of simgear (see simgear/hla). To build flightgear with -D ENABLE_RTI=ON, you'll first need to build simgear with -D ENABLE_RTI=ON. cheers, Thorsten Hi Thorsten, Thanks for the reply, but if you look a little closer, I AM building simgear, SIMGEAR!, when I get this error

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Multiplayer, Open RTI/ HAL and online future..

2012-04-25 Thread Clement de l'Hamaide
Hi, I'm also interested about RTI/HLA informations. Actually I 've compiled FGFS and SG with -D ENABLE_RTI=ON and I run FGFS with --hla=bi,10,FOM,ASN,mp-aircraft.xml If I use av-aircraft.xml in replacement of mp-aircraft.xml I have an FGFS crash with this error during splashscreen: Cannot get

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Suggestion to make FlightGear multiplayer compliant with HLA

2008-03-04 Thread Oliver Schroeder
Hi Petr. I (as the author of fgms) would be pretty much interrested to implement fgms as part of a HLA infrastructur. What detained me from going that way is, that I found no free (as is free beer) documentation on HLA specifications and the quite complex structure (too complex for a one-man

[Flightgear-devel] Suggestion to make FlightGear multiplayer compliant with HLA

2008-03-04 Thread Petr Gotthard
Dear FlightGear developers,(a short introduction first: I'm a newcomer to FlightGear, my professional profile can be found at http://www.linkedin.com/in/gotthard) May I ask whether you would be interested on striving to make FlightGear compliant with the US DoD High Level Architecture (HLA

[Flightgear-devel] FlightGear goes HLA 1.3 (alpha version)

2008-05-22 Thread Gotthard,Petr
Hello, -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 11:23 PM To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Suggestion to make FlightGear multiplayer compliant with HLA I (as the author of fgms) would be pretty much interrested to implement fgms

[Flightgear-devel] [RFC] Dynamic plug-in interface for I/O modules

2009-06-26 Thread Petr Gotthard
exclusive. I'm building a FlightGear interface for MS HLA simulations (http://virtualair.sourceforge.net/flightgear.html). There is a single standartized C++ API, but many HLA infrastructure (RTI) implementations. To use a particular HLA RTI it's necessary to re-compile and re-link FlightGear

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Suggestion to make FlightGear multiplayer compliant with HLA

2008-03-04 Thread Jon S. Berndt
FlightGear multiplayer compliant with HLA Dear FlightGear developers, (a short introduction first: I'm a newcomer to FlightGear, my professional profile can be found at http://www.linkedin.com/in/gotthard http://www.linkedin.com/in/gotthard) May I ask whether you would be interested on striving

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Heads up: AI/ATC interactions

2011-04-15 Thread Mathias Fröhlich
Hi, On Thursday, April 14, 2011 06:07:18 cas...@mminternet.com wrote: Agree with the first part about hacking, but disagree with the second idea of cost HLA is a follow-on to DIS and SimNet developed by DARPA and would require either an extensive rewrite of FG to be HLA (Stanag 4603

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Heads up: AI/ATC interactions

2011-04-14 Thread Torsten Dreyer
HLA is a follow-on to DIS and SimNet developed by DARPA and would require either an extensive rewrite of FG to be HLA (Stanag 4603) compliant or a wrapper function, In addition, there is a thing called Run-Time Infrastructure (RTI) that handles the federates interfaces Matthias Fröhlich added

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [RFC] Dynamic plug-in interface for I/O modules

2009-06-26 Thread Erik Hofman
Petr Gotthard wrote: To follow the do things right rule I think it would be great to implement a generic interface for standalone I/O modules. Both Micro$oft FSX and X-Plane have such interface. The MS HLA users would just need to build a shared module (.dll or .so) for a particular HLA

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [RFC] Dynamic plug-in interface for I/O modules

2009-06-28 Thread Mathias Fröhlich
it in some way. Moreover, it's not always possible to include all functions in a single binary. Some functions may be mutually exclusive. I'm building a FlightGear interface for MS HLA simulations (http://virtualair.sourceforge.net/flightgear.html). There is a single standartized C++ API

Re: [Flightgear-devel] HLA/RTI checkin

2011-01-18 Thread Martin Spott
Mathias Fröhlich wrote: long promised and now checked in: First attempt of HLA/RTI support in flightgear. Cool !!! Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends

[Flightgear-devel] OpenRTI / HLA

2012-12-20 Thread Clement de l'Hamaide
Hi all, Hi Mathias, 1 ) I'm really interested by your work about OpenRTI / HLA. I've added the RTI support in the download_and_compile.sh brisa script's in order to make it more user-friendly to use and participate to the development. I compile SG and FG with -DENABLE_RTI=ON since some weeks

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Heads up: AI/ATC interactions

2011-04-14 Thread Harry Campigli
Thanks for the links Torsten, I need to upgrade from git 2.2 release to current to play with this, I have spend the last few hours since your post digging into HLA. As there is so much on the move here I was unaware of, best for now i confine myself to a routine to parse ads-b data. Harry

Re: [Flightgear-devel] 2.10.0 Changelog - help required

2013-01-20 Thread Mathias Fröhlich
Hi Stuart, On Friday, January 18, 2013 00:04:35 Stuart Buchanan wrote: 1) Are there any significant features/enhancements that have been missed? (Matthias: what HLA enhancements have been made, and can you provide a couple of suitable sentences describing them? I'm happy to wordsmith any

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [RFC] Dynamic plug-in interface for I/Omodules

2009-07-01 Thread Petr Gotthard
Hi Mathias, Thank you very much for your comments. So, as far as I knor HLA/RTI, your problem is divided in two parts: 1. The problem with different RTI implementation libraries. 2. The problem with different fom's Regarding the RTI libs: As far as I can see the RTI c++ interface is defined

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [RFC] Dynamic plug-in interface for I/Omodules

2009-07-08 Thread Mathias Fröhlich
Hi, So sorry for the long delay. On Wednesday 01 July 2009 16:29:23 Petr Gotthard wrote: The basic HLA standard (both DoD and IEEE variant) provides only a C++ API compatibility at a compile-level. There is a SISO standard that should assure dynamic link compatibility (DLC). However, some

Re: [Flightgear-devel] OpenRTI / HLA

2012-12-24 Thread Mathias Fröhlich
Hi, On Thursday, December 20, 2012 22:22:19 Clement de l'Hamaide wrote: 1 ) I'm really interested by your work about OpenRTI / HLA. I've added the RTI support in the download_and_compile.sh brisa script's in order to make it more user-friendly to use and participate to the development. I

[Flightgear-devel] HLA/RTI checkin

2011-01-17 Thread Mathias Fröhlich
Hi all, long promised and now checked in: First attempt of HLA/RTI support in flightgear. For the ones that do not know about that, HLA/RTI is message distribution api used for distributed and paralell real time simulation systems. There are a few api variants out there where the newest two

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Heads up: AI/ATC interactions

2011-04-13 Thread Durk Talsma
or Mac would handle that. Oh, and just hitting the send button a little too early, I had wanted to add that Martin Spott pointed me that the possibilities of using the new HLA layer for this purpose. I'm currently not familiar with HLA myself to comment on that though, so I'm just passing

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Request of help to get started

2011-05-17 Thread Martin Spott
Marcel Fernandez wrote: Thanks for your help martin, I??m going to get a copy. BTW, I just reminded that I'm having a copy of a source code package implementing OpenRadar-on-HLA (as an additional data feed for OpenRadar, like FG multiplayer and ADEXP). Everything pure Java, like the rest

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Enabling HLA - missing RTI.hh

2011-10-23 Thread ThorstenB
is listed by my Synaptic Package Manager... And even a general web search does not provide many hits, and certainly NO clear download sites for libHLA... What should I be searching for? What do I need to install? libHLA is part of simgear (see simgear/hla). To build flightgear with -D

Re: [Flightgear-devel] OpenRTI / HLA

2013-03-18 Thread Pat
I ran a clean build of master/next using download_and_compile.sh -ei and everything under fgfs/flightgear built including fgviewer. Smoke test: Run with C172P at KSFO, takeoff for a run to half moon bay. Multiplayer working. So what needs testing with HLA? -Pat On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 15:30:47

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear in IVAO network

2008-11-12 Thread Martin Spott
it looks like - I was being told so - that some people already started jumping onto this idea. Readers of this list will remember a proposal about implementing an interface to the so-called HLA ('High Level Architecture') for FlightGear, using the CERTI RunTime Infrastructure. I've been monitoring

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Heads up: AI/ATC interactions

2011-04-15 Thread Mathias Fröhlich
Hi, On Wednesday, April 13, 2011 11:52:30 Durk Talsma wrote: Oh, and just hitting the send button a little too early, I had wanted to add that Martin Spott pointed me that the possibilities of using the new HLA layer for this purpose. I'm currently not familiar with HLA myself to comment

[Flightgear-devel] FlightGear Manager...

2011-06-15 Thread Gene Buckle
In thinking about it a bit and being reminded of the existing HLA interface that FlightGear has, I'm leaning toward proposing something built with Python and the PyQT4 GUI library. Both components are cross-platform and there is a Python binding for the CERTI HLA library (PyHLA). The idea

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Heads up: AI/ATC interactions

2011-04-13 Thread castle
in the long run) if clear abstraction layers are not being considered and it also won't facilitate the task of interfacing FlightGear to other sim networks in the future. I've been mentioning HLA because it's the tool precisely made for this sort of interfacing complex simulation setups together

Re: [Flightgear-devel] OpenRTI / HLA

2013-03-17 Thread Mathias Fröhlich
Hi, On Thursday, March 07, 2013 18:26:46 Clement de l'Hamaide wrote: Mathias, some weeks ago I told you about a compilation problem for FG on Linux when RTI is enabled. You asked me to remind you of this problem later, this day is came :) Thanks, I have moved the rti libs below the simgear

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [RFC] Dynamic plug-in interface for I/Omodules

2009-06-26 Thread Petr Gotthard
Petr Gotthard wrote: To follow the do things right rule I think it would be great to implement a generic interface for standalone I/O modules. Both Micro$oft FSX and X-Plane have such interface. The MS HLA users would just need to build a shared module (.dll or .so) for a particular HLA RTI

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Request of help to get started

2011-05-18 Thread Marcel Fernandez
...@mgras.net Marcel Fernandez wrote: Thanks for your help martin, I??m going to get a copy. BTW, I just reminded that I'm having a copy of a source code package implementing OpenRadar-on-HLA (as an additional data feed for OpenRadar, like FG multiplayer and ADEXP). Everything pure Java, like

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear Manager...

2011-06-25 Thread Alasdair Campbell
On Sat, 2011-06-25 at 05:48 -0700, Gene Buckle wrote: On Sat, 25 Jun 2011, Mathias Fröhlich wrote: Hi Gene, On Wednesday, June 15, 2011 21:43:36 Gene Buckle wrote: In thinking about it a bit and being reminded of the existing HLA interface that FlightGear has, I'm leaning toward

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Weather

2012-11-13 Thread flightgear
reading older threads and try to understand how the MP protocol works and where the sharing of random seeds could be really practicable too actually- I fear I should really take HLA/RTI into account. A weather engine creates a weather federation which could be shared by other participants. Since I'm

Re: [Flightgear-devel] OpenRTI / HLA

2013-03-07 Thread Clement de l'Hamaide
Hi, Mathias, some weeks ago I told you about a compilation problem for FG on Linux when RTI is enabled. You asked me to remind you of this problem later, this day is came :) For remembering : Clement wrote : I'm really interested by your work about OpenRTI / HLA. I've added the RTI

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Flightgear remote modules

2007-02-13 Thread Ralf Gerlich
Hi, Rob Ratcliff wrote: You could use an event distribution (Pub/Sub) paradigm based on something like the CORBA Notification Service (Event Service), the CORBA property service, the newer Data Distribution Service (DDS) or something like the High Level Architecture (HLA). A CORBA ORB TAO

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Flightgear remote modules

2007-02-13 Thread John Wojnaroski
(HLA). A CORBA ORB TAO supports communication across shared memory or sockets depending on where the clients and services are running. I know that TAO is used quite a bit for real time control systems communication for the military. Do you know the order of magnitude of the real time

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Flightgear remote modules

2007-02-13 Thread Norman Vine
(HLA). A CORBA ORB TAO supports communication across shared memory or sockets depending on where the clients and services are running. I know that TAO is used quite a bit for real time control systems communication for the military. Do you know the order of magnitude of the real time

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [SECURITY] Nasal: io.open() restricted

2008-06-16 Thread Erik Hofman
Melchior FRANZ wrote: It's well known that Nasal has an io module with wrappers around fopen(), fclose(), etc. An aircraft that you install, or even scenery objects with embedded Nasal could in the past use this to delete the contents of your whole home directory, or to append commands to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] flight sim protocols?

2009-01-15 Thread Martin Spott
. Instead, I'd lobby for familiarization with VirtualAir, an effort which aims at integrating FlightGear with HLA-compilant simulation frameworks via the CERTI RunTime Infrastructure: http://virtualair.sourceforge.net/ As far as I can tell, VirtualAir is not yet ready for general consumption

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Exposing a property over MP

2009-10-10 Thread Mathias Fröhlich
Hi, On Thursday 08 October 2009 22:09:40 Martin Spott wrote: If bandwidth is not a matter, then you'd probably want to jump on the HLA train and join the CERTI/VirtualAir effort. They're offering everything like subscribing to attributes and the such yet I have to state that reduced

Re: [Flightgear-devel] RFC distributed node system

2010-01-13 Thread Mathias Fröhlich
a little bit free time I will build a prototyp. There is some work going on to make use of an existing standard for realtime simulations HLA/IEEE1516 for that purpose. I expect the code landing just past the upcomming release. So, overall targeting at the topics you wrote on the wiki as well

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Heads up: AI/ATC interactions

2011-04-13 Thread Martin Spott
cas...@mminternet.com wrote: However, a quick search indicates there is an open source HLA on sourceforge License is Apache License V2.0, no idea how that compare to GPL or LGPL, but might be worth a look-see. Whatever, it is going to take time and effort (cost) to make FG compliant

[Flightgear-devel] ..another 3-letter inspiration, was: Heads up: AI/ATC interactions

2011-04-14 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Thu, 14 Apr 2011 18:50:18 +0700, Harry wrote in message BANLkTikwQVYG2zrmu+yE2sbiaCq=CT=z...@mail.gmail.com: Thanks for the links Torsten, I need to upgrade from git 2.2 release to current to play with this, I have spend the last few hours since your post digging into HLA. ..another 3

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Enabling HLA - missing RTI.hh

2011-10-24 Thread Torsten Dreyer
Thanks for the reply, but if you look a little closer, I AM building simgear, SIMGEAR!, when I get this error ;=(( Maybe it would have been better, clearer, if I had said Having just successfully compiled the latest SimGear git, in Ubuntu 10.04, using the default, which is -D

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Enabling HLA - missing RTI.hh

2011-10-24 Thread George Patterson
On 25 October 2011 01:47, Torsten Dreyer tors...@t3r.de wrote: Hi Geoff, you need a RTI implementation. I can recommend the OpenRTI implentation from our fellow FlightGear developer Mathias: http://developer.berlios.de/projects/openrti/ which you can clone from git://git.berlios.de/openrti

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Enabling HLA - missing RTI.hh

2011-10-24 Thread Martin Spott
George Patterson wrote: Btw, Berlios is closing on 31/12/2011 so grab what you need now. I am not sure if Mathias has moved the above project to another host. I'm sure Mathias will speak about the details himself, but aside from that I can confirm he's aware of the implications. In case of

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Enabling HLA - missing RTI.hh

2011-10-25 Thread Mathias Fröhlich
On Monday, October 24, 2011 22:12:15 Martin Spott wrote: George Patterson wrote: Btw, Berlios is closing on 31/12/2011 so grab what you need now. I am not sure if Mathias has moved the above project to another host. I'm sure Mathias will speak about the details himself, but aside from

Re: [Flightgear-devel] OpenRTI / HLA

2013-03-17 Thread Clement de l'Hamaide
Mathias, Thanks, I have moved the rti libs below the simgear ones. Does this help? Yes it works fine now ! Thanks you. But a new mistake appers now, FG is not able to found libRTI-NG.so.1 because the file is in install/openrti/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libRTI-NG.so.1 I've fixed the problem by

Re: [Flightgear-devel] RFC distributed node system

2010-01-13 Thread Christian Menge
Mathias, I'm not sure if this will help but there is an open source project that is currently making use of the HLA/IEEE1516 standard. Check out - www.delta3d.org Christian FreedomWorks Inc. US: 609-858-2290 Canada: 905-228-0285 Fax: 347-296-3666 Email: christ...@freedomworks.ca

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Heads up: AI/ATC interactions

2011-04-13 Thread Harry Campigli
likely sockets. Shared memory would be ideal, but not sure how MS or Mac would handle that. Oh, and just hitting the send button a little too early, I had wanted to add that Martin Spott pointed me that the possibilities of using the new HLA layer for this purpose. I'm currently

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Heads up: AI/ATC interactions

2011-04-13 Thread Martin Spott
and whatever else from various sources will render the system unmaintainable (at least in the long run) if clear abstraction layers are not being considered and it also won't facilitate the task of interfacing FlightGear to other sim networks in the future. I've been mentioning HLA because it's the tool

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Heads up: AI/ATC interactions

2011-04-14 Thread Harry Campigli
Suse 11.1 machine but not the new Ubuntu 10.4 installations. A picky new complier i think but I don't understand it well enough to sort it out. Now I am not a programmer of any kind and thus really cant assist those who are, I cant offer comment on HLA and how to implement things, I would only put

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear Manager...

2011-06-25 Thread Alasdair Campbell
of the existing HLA interface that FlightGear has, I'm leaning toward proposing something built with Python and the PyQT4 GUI library. Both components are cross-platform and there is a Python binding for the CERTI HLA library (PyHLA). Well you can use PyHLA - That should just work

Re: [Flightgear-devel] scenery loading cleanup

2012-03-24 Thread Mathias Fröhlich
loader does this currently. but the lower level of details still lacks altitude information. And the basic texture is just the croase whole world texture even in the mid lod case. That's what I currently use for developing a seperate hla viewer that can be attached to any hla object. I can

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear Manager...

2011-06-25 Thread Mathias Fröhlich
Hi Gene, On Wednesday, June 15, 2011 21:43:36 Gene Buckle wrote: In thinking about it a bit and being reminded of the existing HLA interface that FlightGear has, I'm leaning toward proposing something built with Python and the PyQT4 GUI library. Both components are cross-platform

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear Manager...

2011-06-25 Thread Gene Buckle
On Sat, 25 Jun 2011, Mathias Fröhlich wrote: Hi Gene, On Wednesday, June 15, 2011 21:43:36 Gene Buckle wrote: In thinking about it a bit and being reminded of the existing HLA interface that FlightGear has, I'm leaning toward proposing something built with Python and the PyQT4 GUI library

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Flightgear remote modules

2007-02-13 Thread Rob Ratcliff
. :-) You could use an event distribution (Pub/Sub) paradigm based on something like the CORBA Notification Service (Event Service), the CORBA property service, the newer Data Distribution Service (DDS) or something like the High Level Architecture (HLA). A CORBA ORB TAO supports communication

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Exposing a property over MP

2009-10-08 Thread Martin Spott
at satisfactory performance. If bandwidth is not a matter, then you'd probably want to jump on the HLA train and join the CERTI/VirtualAir effort. They're offering everything like subscribing to attributes and the such yet I have to state that reduced bandwidth footprint, compared to the current

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ATC client

2010-11-30 Thread Martin Spott
/asterix/public/subsite_homepage/homepage.html) Well, OpenRADAR is going the opposite direction: It already provides FlightGear MP (plus HLA RTI via a side project), ASTERIX could be done as well by changing swapping another interface in ;-) I'm surprised to realize that a lot of people don't

Re: [Flightgear-devel] release discussion

2011-04-15 Thread Bertrand Coconnier
2011/4/15 ThorstenB bre...@gmail.com: Ok, not sure what has changed there, but is it important enough to be migrated to 2.2? I know it's tempting to make all the new features available right now (I'd like to see my new TCAS in the release, we've had 2 JSBSim updates, new HLA support, tank

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Heads up: scenery download / built-in

2011-06-15 Thread Martin Spott
a configurable HLA interface, and removing the current one from FlightGear is extremely cheap compared to making local weather multi-viewer compatible. Just a random example, think about it Cheers, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CMake, tomorrow (Sunday 23rd)

2011-10-23 Thread James Turner
, partly because I'm sick of all the compiler warnings from the UIUC / larcsim code, but also because at some point in the future we want the FDMs to be more 'modular' to the rest of FG - eg in their own thread or HLA-process, potentially. Knowing that the code builds cleanly with, for example

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CMake, tomorrow (Sunday 23rd)

2011-10-23 Thread Erik Hofman
the compiler warnings from the UIUC / larcsim code, but also because at some point in the future we want the FDMs to be more 'modular' to the rest of FG - eg in their own thread or HLA-process, potentially. Knowing that the code builds cleanly with, for example, *just* the Null/UFO FDM selected

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Add/Set properties to/in MP Protocol

2012-12-28 Thread Wolfram Wagner
take a look after the release is complete. I'll also check with Matthias to see if there's any HLA issue I should be considering. Thank you Stuart! signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

[Flightgear-devel] 2.10.0 Changelog - help required

2013-01-17 Thread Stuart Buchanan
be found here: http://wiki.flightgear.org/Changelog_2.10.0 I have two asks: 1) Are there any significant features/enhancements that have been missed? (Matthias: what HLA enhancements have been made, and can you provide a couple of suitable sentences describing them? I'm happy to wordsmith any text

Re: [Flightgear-devel] 2.10.0 Changelog - help required

2013-01-18 Thread James Turner
that have been missed? (Matthias: what HLA enhancements have been made, and can you provide a couple of suitable sentences describing them? I'm happy to wordsmith any text) - flight-path history on the map is nice, that's one of mine. - ThorstenB added the capability to save replay tapes to disk

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Slave flightgear as external view to monitor traffic

2013-01-20 Thread Mathias Fröhlich
by adding the apropriate hla objects and attaching the viewer to them. In the long term this is probably the viewer to use as it is designed to be used in an environment like this. Greetings Mathias -- Master Visual Studio

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Color-shifts for textures

2013-01-27 Thread James Turner
with / after 2.12 is to work with Mathias' HLA code to make this separation possible, unless of course he beats me to it :) James -- Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, MVC, Windows 8 Apps

Re: [Flightgear-devel] OpenRTI / HLA

2013-03-18 Thread Pat
if you put the library files outside of x86_64-linux-gnu and x86_32-linux-gnu you would not be able to tell if the files are for 32 or 64 bit. That directory is part of the multi-arch specification. I don't think we want to take it out. Can this be fixed in the CMakeLists.txt? Is that the right

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Flightgear remote modules

2007-02-13 Thread Rob Ratcliff
) or something like the High Level Architecture (HLA). A CORBA ORB TAO supports communication across shared memory or sockets depending on where the clients and services are running. I know that TAO is used quite a bit for real time control systems communication for the military. Do you know

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Help with interfacing other flight models

2007-06-25 Thread Rudolf Schreiner
, we plan an integration of HLA and web services, one the side of the CCM implementation. Another possible approach is the multiplayer mode. We did not use it, because one of the goals of our work was a performance test of the CCM implementation used. Drop me a mail if you have more questions

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ATC client

2010-11-30 Thread Eftychios Eftychiou
: It already provides FlightGear MP (plus HLA RTI via a side project), ASTERIX could be done as well by changing swapping another interface in ;-) I'm surprised to realize that a lot of people don't spare effort for discussing new ATC clients while a slightly rudimentary but rather functional system

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Heads up: scenery download / built-in

2011-06-15 Thread Csaba Halász
(and also doesn't invalidate any arguments). Adding another 'wrapper' around libsgtsync, let's say a configurable HLA interface, and removing the current one from FlightGear is extremely cheap compared to making local weather multi-viewer compatible.  Just a random example, think about

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Future Weather System

2011-08-01 Thread Mathias Fröhlich
with a seperate AI component in a HLA federation. Greetings Mathias -- BlackBerryreg; DevCon Americas, Oct. 18-20, San Francisco, CA The must-attend event for mobile developers. Connect with experts. Get tools for creating

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Cmake

2011-09-05 Thread Alan Teeder
produced an executable However this would not run and usually involved using the depends tool to work out why FG had been made with the wrong set of libraries. The final straw came with the incorporation of HLA, which I never sorted out. VC100 is to be avoided like the plague. It even seems

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Add/Set properties to/in MP Protocol

2012-12-27 Thread Stuart Buchanan
a look after the release is complete. I'll also check with Matthias to see if there's any HLA issue I should be considering. -Stuart -- Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, MVC, Windows 8

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Flightgear Multiplayer jitter using Matlab/Simulink

2013-01-31 Thread Mathias Fröhlich
that will probably arrive too late for you if you need that about now. The hla components will enable correct time slicing over more participants and components. May be for your particular case: If your simulink models live in the same matlab, it could help if the data for both aircraft is sent

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Atmospheric Light Scattering

2013-04-25 Thread James Turner
split out from the simulation backend, via HLA, which is exactly what Mathias (and soon, myself) are working towards, but slowly. Regards, James-- Try New Relic Now We'll Send You this Cool Shirt New Relic is the only SaaS

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Heads up: scenery download / built-in

2011-06-15 Thread ThorstenB
messages and runs as a stand-alone utility. I actually tested the new library using the (remains) of terrasync(.exe) stand-alone utility - but decided not to push any changes to terrasync itself. Not now at least. And I'm pretty aware of the HLA approaches - we've discussed that for long

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Slow frame rates

2012-06-20 Thread Mathias Fröhlich
Hi, On Monday, June 18, 2012 13:20:17 castle...@comcast.net wrote: The HLA/RTI architecture is far more sophisticated than what might be needed. The idea is not to split FlightGear into a distributed, federated application across a multi-platform machine or network although

Re: [Flightgear-devel] RFC: changes to views and cameras

2008-06-30 Thread Mathias Fröhlich
level stuff with building of 3d models that do not need anything application level code to animate the models ... I think of some kind of separation that will also be good if we would do HLA between a viewer and an application computing physical models or controlling an additional view hooking

[Flightgear-devel] Abstract of three days at LinuxTag 2011

2011-05-13 Thread Martin Spott
of testing recent, development-features in 'production' environment at LinuxTag (mostly related to scenegraph in the past), I'm glad to mention that we were now able to check wether FlightGear/HLA is robust enough and suitable to serve as a substitute for multiplayer in local environments. I does

[Flightgear-devel] RE : Cmake

2011-09-05 Thread Frederic Bouvier
and usually involved using the depends tool to work out why FG had been made with the wrong set of libraries. The final straw came with the incorporation of HLA, which I never sorted out. VC100 is to be avoided like the plague. It even seems to have problems linking with libraries produced

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Live Multiplayer

2011-12-28 Thread Martin Spott
abstraction layer for switching data source interfaces. Somone built a pure Java HLA compilant interface for OpenRadar, but that's never been integrated into the main source tree. Cheers, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Some More Detailed Scenery

2011-12-29 Thread ThorstenB
, Mathias did the same for HLA and OSG support, Torsten for the NAV radio and environment code etc. Then we create some central website listing all available patches, so people can choose (according to their hardware/performance/interests). And to make it easier for users: we create a large

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Lazy traffic startup

2012-04-25 Thread Durk Talsma
from my summer vacation (sometime around early August). In the mean time, I'm thinking about wether I want to continue with the current system, or move towards a more modular (multiplayer / network / HLA) based approach. 4). I will monitor development, handle the occasional bugfix, git commit

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Slow frame rates

2012-06-19 Thread Mathias Fröhlich
further. In the mean time, the floor is open to anyone who would like to comment or pursue this idea on their own. Well, that's about what I am about to do with the HLA stuff. The nice thing is that the ipc is hidden behind something that is also able to distribute this across multiple machines

Re: [Flightgear-devel] OpenRTI / HLA

2013-03-16 Thread Pat
, some weeks ago I told you about a compilation problem for FG on Linux when RTI is enabled. You asked me to remind you of this problem later, this day is came :) For remembering : Clement wrote : I'm really interested by your work about OpenRTI / HLA. I've added the RTI support

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Live Multiplayer

2011-12-29 Thread Pedro Morgan
it into a Gitorious project alongside simgear and all the other stuff, hoping that people drop a patch every now and then. One of the various nice features in OpenRadar is its abstraction layer for switching data source interfaces. Somone built a pure Java HLA compilant interface

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Slow frame rates

2012-06-18 Thread castle . 64
The HLA/RTI architecture is far more sophisticated than what might be needed. The idea is not to split FlightGear into a distributed, federated application across a multi-platform machine or network although that is an intriquing prospect for stimulating the brain cells. ;-) By way

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Slow frame rates

2012-06-20 Thread castle . 64
required to create their visual scene. Hopefully, I'll have some time in the fall to pursue this idea further. In the mean time, the floor is open to anyone who would like to comment or pursue this idea on their own. Well, that's about what I am about to do with the HLA stuff. The nice thing

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Switching from PUI to osgWidget

2012-07-24 Thread stefan riemens
the efforts. Regards, Tom I don’t know what is it worth to think about a GUI inside fgfs at all sometimes. When I look to what can be done i.e. with the FGx launcher, properties and now HLA/RTI I’m thinking about trying to skip the built-in GUI at all ;-) Cheers, Yves

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Generating ground textures on the fly?

2013-03-11 Thread James Turner
architectures (and use multiple CPUs) better. That's Mathias Fröhlich's HLA/RTI work, and indeed he has done the recent work on extending fgviewer to test changes to the current terrain system. Oh, and if you can do IRC, I'm sure the guys in #fg_scenery would be delighted to discuss what you've done

Re: [Flightgear-devel] property system extensions redux

2009-06-20 Thread Mathias Fröhlich
several times in redoing the property implementation in a more 'orthogonal' way. That would allow for such extensions in a natural way. Also from what I currently work on the HLA component seperation, a more flexible property system might allow me to greatly reduce the communication load

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Heads up: scenery download / built-in

2011-06-16 Thread Vivian Meazza
to be driven by HLA or something similar than most other parts). No, we're very likely to not get any of this since we're absolutely unable to motivate - or at least keep people motivated on working on our project. That's a major issue we have. Everyone who spends time is welcomed by negative

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Future Weather System

2011-08-01 Thread Mathias Fröhlich
ground types for traditional scene queries. Sure, this is much more work to set this up. In the future, I hope to have a completely independent weather module using the HLA stuff that runs in an own process/thread. So, at that time you might be able to do more sophisticated stuff. May